The other thread is way too long, so I decided to start a new one.

Love

Dave

Hi Dave,

You are right, we still have until March 17, to get ready!!!!

Dave
What is the difference between a transit on Pluto being direct or retrograde in a map<
And betweeen which degrees of virgo it can affect< `(My natal pluto is retrograde and is in virgo, what does it mean> )
Tks
Love and Peace

Montanawish,

I was plannning on reposting the basic information, so here it is.

It will happen on March 17th, 6:36 PST, and will be at 15 Sagitarius 17 at the time. It will turn direct again on August 23rd at 9:06 AM PDT at 12 Sagitarius 36. About 13 hours just before that, at 3:45 AM, Mars will conjunct Pluto, so the effect can be extremely powerful.

So, for people who have planets between 12 Sag 36 and 15 Sag 17, or in Gemini, Virgo, or Pisces, there will be a review of what Pluto stands for.

Love

Dave

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good grief Dave,my youngest daughter has her moon at 12 Sag 34!..does this mean she wouldnt feel any affect?? that seems too close!! and what would it mean with her moon being in the 7th..PLEASE,this isnt something to do with boys is it?? Can you define "a review of what Pluto stands for??thanks!!

Aries,

Oh yes, your daughter's emotions are being tranformed - now, that does mean that they are "bad" - she could be learning positive things about them from you - but yes, it could mean an interest in boys - hey at one time, you got interested!

Pluto transforms - that is the basic message, and its review time!

Love

Dave

HAHA@you
Yes,I asked her about a few things tonight and she made it obvious shes "changing" when it come to boys..I think the word is: maturing!! whew,I was hoping youde say it could be a positive thing,thanks

Aries,

And that is exactly what I said!

Love

Dave

How will the transist affect me?
Thats right aftre the exams get over.....

~Shruti!

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Gemini,

It will affect you when it get close to the end of the retrograde in August. I talked about its effect on you elsewhere - I think on the Saturn goes direct thread.

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Dave

Hi Dave,

I am already trying to understand the effects of Jupiter and saturn for me...and now pluto too. What does mr. Pluto have in store for me.....

ash1e

Ash1e,

Well right now it is opposing your Sun and ascendant, and will continue to do so for the rest of the year - this means that you are having a major transformation in your life, and going back to school is a very productive positive means of expression of this energy.

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Dave

Hi everyone,

I had thought that with my moon being at 16 degrees in Sag it would effect my emotions, and I will admit that I have had days when I don't feel like I even know myself, but my Leonian Mercury at 14 degrees seems to be taking the impact.

I would say that I am changing, somewhat, in the way I express myself. Or more to the point, I have come to a place where I am realizing that I have given others far too much control over how I express myself. I am hoping that this vibration will maximize the environment so that I may take back that control.

My new boss said something about developing the voice of the writer. I'd hate to let someone else take over so they could strip me of everything I have that makes me a unique communicator.

Well, here's wishing you all a real nice retro. (Or, at the very least, a tolerable one.)

I was wondering though. With Pluto doing all of this in Sag, would this be the kind of period where fate just seems to be inclined to play a joke on us? Like for example, Aries mentioned the possiblity of her daughter falling in Love. Could it be that someone with that aspect could suddenly fall in love with a person who had driven them crazy for half their life? You know the last person you would ever expect to have feelings for.

Love and Laughter,
borderCAT

borderCAT,

It's good to see that you are using the Plutonian power in a positive way!

Love

Dave

Hi Bordercat...

I always thought it was Uranus that made you fall in love with the "last person you expected to"

I'll be interested to hear what Dave says about Pluto

Hiareth

Hi Dave .
Em Pluto will be retrograde in the 2nd house and exactly squaring the natal 15 degrees venus in Virgo in the 11th house on the chart for the day I was born.What does this mean.
Is there any more significance when Venus is the chart ruler (the ascendant)?
Venus is going retro in the 7th house.
What does this mean for relationships?
Thanks .
Light and Love Cat. or Kitty.

Mavis,

I will need your birth data in order to look at it.

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Dave

Oh right sorry
My birth date is 18th Oct 1980 06:59am.
I was born in Belfast in the Uk.
#Thanks
Kitty.

Kitty,

I will get back to you.

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Dave

Mavis,

Pluto squaring Venus means that they way you love is being transformed. And since your Venus is in the 12th house, it will be somewhat an inner revelation rather than an overt one. And if you let the changes happen rather than fight them, then you will be OK.

As far as the Venus retrograde, it covers both the 7th and 6th houses, but does not aspect anything, so it will be simply a tome for reflection for you.

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Dave

Thanks Dave.
I didn't realise Venus was in the twelfth.
Thank u and I hope u r feeling ok about your mum.
Love Kitty.

Mavis,

Venus is in your 12th house according to the Koch house system, but it is very close to the cusp, so it may well indeed be in the 11th according to another house system.

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Dave

Thaks Dave
Love Kitty.

Hi There Dave!

Ok so doing the math........My Gemini Mars squares my Virgo Sun and Moon...and there is a sextile to my Pluto...(a soft one at 67 deg.)...my Rx north node is in the middle of the mess........
so do I want to buy life boats? or fire extinguishers?

Which takes me back to my Venus Rx question....I can see in my natal chart that this Mar's Rx will be affecting my 9th 11th and 12th house...but how do I knOw which houses they are in now?

Am I asking this the right way?...it seems that the chart for NOW and the natal chart are two different things right?

So which transiting house is more important to learn about? The natal or the one for NOW? and what exactly is the difference?

And do you put them together like a compatability chart to see what you need for NOW?

Thanks for you help!

Dani

Dani,

Whoa! This is the Pluto retrograde thread, and you bring up both Venus and Mars - can you look at what you said and clarify it!

Love

Dave

probably not.

no more for me thanks...I'm drivin'.......

let me digest the venus thing.....I'll be back.

Lol teehee.

Dani

Ah!!!

I wandered down a different road because you had said anyone with planets in Virgo, Gemini or Pisces would have a review of what Pluto stands for...you also mentioned certain deg. of Sagg.....my Jup is in Sagg..but it is at 25..14' in the 3rd.

So I was pondering the aspects between all the planets you mentioned in my chart and how they all play together...or not together as the case may be.

After sleeping on it...I had to re-read it all to remember my question!!!

All of this is like when you are trying to remember someones name and it's on the tip of your tongue...but the harder you try to remember the further it slips away...really gets on my nerves...there seems to be no end to my questions...and each answer gives me a new question!

thanks for all your patience!!!!

Love,

Dani

Oh Dang Dave....

I just looked at a transit chart on Astronet. Is it really true that BOTH venus and pluto rx's will hit me in the 5th house?

Or am i reading chart wrong?

This should be fun

Hiareth

Hiareth,

No, Pluto is current in your 3rd house.

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Dave

Dave

Yippee! I need the communication restructuring, just in time.

Hiareth

Hello Dave!

If I got the degrees right, Pluto conj. my Neptune. What does that mean?
Love
Kitty

Kitty,

It is a generational aspect, and unless itis tied into other transits of Pluto (or any other planet), I don't make that much of it. It would mean that there is the opportunity to transform the dreams that one has, and the house that the conjunction is in points to where it is.

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Dave

Dear Dave,
Just wondering how this Pluto retrograde will fit me. You said it would affect people with planets between 12 and 15 Sag? My Saturn is about 14* Sag in the 3rd house. I also have planets in Pisces: Sun, Venus, and Mercury. My Pluto is in 12th house, and it is retrograde at 21 Leo 2.
I have been waiting for "something" to happen or be revealed to me. Do you think this might be it, the Pluto rx? If so, I am willing to be a human guinea pig for everyone here to see what happens with the Pluto rx!
Could you comment?
Love,
Sleepy Fish
P.S. Please excuse my continuing ignorance. I am learning astrology slowly.
P.P.S. also I note the retrograde begins on March 17, an 8 date and I am a 4. Wouldn't Linda have said something about that?

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SleepyFish,

Yes, the Pluto retrograde is affecting you - it is conjunct your Saturn and square your Sun - all of the rest have had the Pluto square earlier in the past. So, it is dealing with the transformation of your life and its structure, particularly in how you communicate and with work and health matters.
Yes, Linda would have said something about it, but I am not into numerology very much so I can't comment.

This will be the second (and only retrograde) pass of the this transit - the final one will happen at the end of the year. So this one is one to reflect on the seed thoughts that have been set, and the final results will be known later.

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Dave

Dear Dave,
Wow, I can feel that all you said is true. And am ready, whatever happens.
Love, Piscesdreamer

Dear Dave,
Did search--is it true that Pluto last went retrograde approximately this time last year on 3/15/2000? If so, I am freaked out. It sure would fit my life. I expect the continuation this time. When will the next retrograde of Pluto be after this one ends, please? Thank you.
Love, Piscesdreamer

Piscesdreamer,

Yes, it went retrograde on March 15,2000! And the next one will be on March 20, 2002.

Love

Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for sending the link to the forum, I managed to get in.

In what degree will Pluto be when it starts its retrograde motion again on March 2002?

love,

Tish

Tish,

I am glad it worked - get your computer fixed for once and for all times!

I knew someone would ask that - it is 17 Sag 37.

Love

Dave

Hi Dave,

The computer is going tomorrow to the repair shop

Pluto will retro back to what degree?

This aspect of Pluto conj. my Mercury is being sooooo loooooong!!!

Thanks

Tish,

Back to 12 Sag... Take advantage of it!

Love

Dave

I intend to!!!

Dave,

I guess Pluto would effect someone with Sag at 15 degrees 18', as you said above that it would effect Aries' daughter - right? Also, my Moon is at 12 degrees 24', is that too far off for me to feel the effects?

Thanks,
~Kel

Dave,

I guess you didn't see this, so I brought it back up.

Thanks,
~Kel

Kelly,

Yes, I missed it - so thanks for reminding me. When Pluto gets back to its retro station point, it will be opposite your Moon (again!) for the last time - so it will be the opportunity to finalize the transformations of your emotions.

Love

Dave

Dear Dave,

Could you please take a look at my chart:
1st June 1980
1204 hrs
Singapore
Funny I feel as though I'd been having a crash course on transforming from 1996 til now in every area possible.. any explanation would be greatly appreciated...

and also, Saturn, the great teacher and Lord of karma enters Gemini in April... I have some idea the effect it would have on me as an individual but could you explain the implications on a macro level? Specifically, what sort of impact on media and communicatons?
Thanks a heap...

Lots of love,
yaping

Yaping,

Pluto over the last few years has been opposing your Sun and squaring your Mars, but it was over last year, and will not return. At this point Pluto will not be aspecting anything until 2003-2004 when it will square your Saturn which will bring transformations in the structure of your life and family.

Saturn will be entering your 10th house of careers and will be there for some time, and at about the point it will conjunct your Sun later this year, it will retrograde, so it will provide some structuring to your life.

As far as Saturn being in Gemini and communications, it will give a great deal of structure to them, and I would see over the next few years some shake outs and positive structuring of the industry, especially computers (maybe all of the bugs will get fixed! - HAH!)

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Dave

Wow, that so fast, Dave! Thanks!

No wonder I feel like a completely different person.... less of airy Gemini and more of earthy Virgo...

I really hope you're right about the bugs

The reason I asked about Saturn and communicatons was because I found my new-found job environment(advertising/marketing) to be absolutely chaotic.
Normally, I'm adaptable but this time, my instincts seem to be screaming at me that something's wrong...
I used to think advertising has to be "the job" for me but now, I feel like a square peg in a round hole...

I'm wondering if the industry in going thru re-structuring as a whole and I should stay until "the storm passes" or if it's Saturn in my 10th house affecting me on a personal level, telling me it's not for me...?
what do you think? Thanks again..

Lots of love,
yaping

Yaping,

Saturn isn't quite there in your 10th - yet - it will be there about May. Jupiter is now there, and is conjunct your Sun, so that would explain the "expansion" - and when Saturn comes in some more structure will becaome evident.

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Dave