Tink,

Yes, they get a lollipop!

Love

Dave

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Terri,

Yum!

Oh you mean its Pluto causing all this......
I never knew it was so....

Well its not only change that is happening........some of them are but everthing is going wrong....
I think i should go freeze myself till September 2002......that when it will leave me won't it?
I think its as good as staying alive till that time....

No lollipop is consoling me after all the crap I have to face during Saturn in my sign...
I wanna go for a long long long vacation till then.....

i do hand in my homework on time ...but ouch the homework i will have to face next year is gonna be enormous...

~Shruti.

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Gemini,

If you fear Saturn, and it is somewhat a common attitude, then when it starts conjuncting and opposing planets in Sag and Gemini, then the "worst" will happen. Saturn is a teacher and the Lord of Karma.

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Hi Dave, Hi Gemi,

There is a thread that Tish wrote on the Linda GOOdman forum (I think) Called Saturn the gaurdian angel planet. It has some wonderful thought on the benefit of the planet.

To be honest with you - I don't know when Saturn was in my sun sign - but I never noticed it. I could take a guess that is was somewhere around 1992-5 but in reality I think it was mid '80s. I didn't even notice it was there - because it all about work and stuff that you are dong naturally in your life anyways.

Don't be sad or worried - and do keep handing in you homework on time - teachers like that hehheeheh.

Love and hugs

Lis

Gemi

I just looked it up and I was doing my nurse training. I didn't even notice . I had a lot of fun as well as a lot of work - not sure if I got my reward. Well maybe, once is moved from my sun I moved house from scotland to London, I got engaged, I became a ward sister. So maybe I did

It's honestly wasn't bad at all I have to say - and it was a very exciting time.

But have a hug anyways I just like giving hugs that all heheheh

Love

Lis

Lisa,

Saturn was last in Scorpio in 1983-1985.

Gemini,

The article that Lisa is talking about is in the writings section of the site.

Thanks Lisa!

Dave

Thanks Lis!!
Love you for that!

By the by Dave when will the Planet conjunct Sag and Gem?

~Shruti!

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Gemini,

What planets will conjunct? Yes, there will be a Saturn Pluto opposition in 2002 if that is what you are talking about.

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Dave do you mean the Saturn and You thing Linda has written in the Writings section well I read that ages ago....
I know all of it but well that doesn't console me
but what has got me a little more understandable si teh monthly horoscope for a Gemini for the month of Feb!!

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No I meant whne will it conjuct Sag and Gemini as in when will Saturn conjuct tehm?

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Gemini,

I am still not sure what you mean - Saturn conjunct what?

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Dear Dave,

You wrote this:

Gemini,
If you fear Saturn, and it is somewhat a common attitude, then when it starts conjuncting and opposing planets in Sag and Gemini, then the "worst" will happen. Saturn is a teacher and the Lord of Karma.

So well when will it conjuct the planets in Sag and Gem?
So I can be prepared for the 'bad times'...
*grin*

Thanks!

~Shruti!

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Gemini,

OK - here we go:

conjunct North Node - June 2001.
opposite Uranus and conjunct Mercury - July - August 2001, November-December 2001, April 2002.
conjunct Venus/Sun - July 2002, January-April 2003.

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Now step two:

What do they mean?

~Shruti!

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Gemini,

I might add that those are the months that the transits are exact - you should a about 2-3 weeks on either side for safe measure. I have already dealt with the transits for you for the year, and when I have some time, I will deal with the rest of them - they are a "long" way off.

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Well what do the transist imply I was trying to find out stuff like thatt on astro but haven't got anywhere decent yet!!

And what should I do during the transist close myself in a place where I don't have much chance of going wrong?

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Gemini,

Oops, I had done the Pluto stuff, but not the Saturn. Ok, with the North Node, what we are talking about is karma - since the nodes represents points of karma, and Saturn is the Lord of Karma, then what we have is lessons in karma - and they do not have to be "bad". It will deal with the public self of you and your family, with the lessons to be learned about the public self.

The Saturn conjunct Mercury and opposite Uranus is a whole different ball of wax. When Saturn is in hard aspect with Uranus, freedom/limits issues arise, and that with you especially since Mercury is involved (limits on speech) will be something that probably will affect you - you probably like to speak your mind, and that could potentially get you into "trouble" - the point to be learned is that freedom of speech does have limits. Again, family and your public self are involved.

In the time I have done astrology, I have never seen anyone so afraid of Saturn, and it really puzzles me - there are lessons of limits and structure which we all need to learn. Now, Saturn used to be called the "devil" in astrology (and I suspect this is still true in Vedic astrology), simply because it cloaked the energy of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto as well as its own energy. And Saturn in astrology is still regarded as a "malefic" to some people - which is the old school of astrology which really does not have much validity anymore simply because the recognition that planetary energy is neither necessarily "good" or "bad" - Jupiter is regarded as "good" - but one for example may overindulge, and face consequences from that.

The point is that you can't hide from these transits, and there is no point in doing so.

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Thanks a lot!
I needed to know what those transists meant. Now I feel a little comfortable about the transists.

Tell me about it I donno wahy I am so scared myself..... But all you have to do is Saturn return and I am under the blanket shivering.

~Shruti!

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Well, It seems that everyone is happy about Saturn going direct but i'm not sure what i should feel. Saturn has been in my 12th house for the past 2 yrs and has been pounding me over and over again. I have a Taurus rising at 26 degrees. Everytime i try to rise,especially artistically, i get pounded and pushed back down.
if Taurus went retrograde on the 24th of January and it is now the 25th of of Feb, i guess it has entered my first house. More misery i'm not sure but i'm looking for a light. I can't take this situation much longer. Saturn was also opposing my sun in Scorpio at 16 degrees and Uranus at 21 degrees. Its been crazy. I know that when Saturn hits your first house it means obscurity but does it mean misery. At least its getting out of dodge of my sun.
Thoughts anyone?

Saturn went direct and January 24th, not retrograde, and will be going over your ascendant for the last pass with in week. So, cheer up!

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Hi Dave,

I have both Jupiter and Saturn influencing my sun sign. Are they not kin of contradictory..Jupiter the flamboyent and Saturn the rstrictive/limiting.

How exactly are these placed in my horescope and what should I expect in this year. That too at a time when I am trying to do a lot of things to go ahead in life.

ash1e

Ash1e,

Both of them are in your 12th house of secrets right now and Jupiter will go into your 1st house of self this year. The advice I have given you has taken this into account. Saturn can also be structure.

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