From: "Michael Moore" mike@michaelmoore.com
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:46:22 -0500
Subject: It's the Book, Stupid

Dear friends,

This is just a quick note of thanks for the support all of you have
given my book.

"Stupid White Men" debuted at #3 on the New York Times bestseller
list this week, and at #1 on the Publisher's Weekly nonfiction
bestseller list for independent bookstores. It's still #1 for all
books on Amazon, and, my personal favorite for a good laugh, #4 on
the bestseller list for the Wall Street Journal. By the fifth day of
release, the book had gone into its 9th printing.

More copies have been sold in one week than "Downsize This" sold in a
whole year. Pundits and publishers are stunned. "But the president
has an 80% approval rating!" There's something going on here, and
they don't know what it is...

I am writing this from northern California, two weeks into the book
tour, on a drive with my family to visit small towns like Ukiah and
Arcata.

Last night in Santa Rosa, at the local high school, they had a
thousand people packed inside and another 500 out on the lawn who
couldn't get in. It's like this in all the places I visit. Hundreds,
thousands, turning out to discuss all the sorry excuses for the state
of the nation.

People have had it with keeping silent for the past 6 months. They
resent having felt like if they chose to question what the government
is up to or, God forbid, dissent, they would somehow be considered
unpatriotic.

Let's get one thing straight -- this is what it means to
be "unpatriotic:"

1. When you shred our constitution and eliminate our civil liberties,
passing laws that make it illegal to encourage opposition to the
government's actions, THAT is un-American.

2. When you send our kids to go fight and die on a foreign land so
that you can finally build a pipeline for your oil backers across
that country, THAT is un-American.

3. When you use the dead of September 11 to try to get huge tax cuts
passed that will only benefit your rich benefactors, THAT is un-
American.

4. When you allow criminals who are stealing the pensions of workers
and retirees to come in and hand-pick the head of the agency which is
supposed to be regulating them, and then you place some of the
criminals' top brass in your administration to "serve" as the
secretary of the army and White House counsel, and then these
criminals turn out to be your number one financial backers -- and
their law firm turns out to be your #3 backer -- and, in spite of all
this you still haven't resigned in disgrace, THAT is un-American.

I want all of you to share this success with me and feel heartened
and reassured by the response to this book. It is an overwhelming
rebuke, first to those who sought to censor or ban it, and now to the
oft-repeated conventional wisdom that the whole country is whistling
the same tune and marching in lockstep to the vision of
Cheney/Ashcroft/Bush. It's a bunch of hooey, folks, and I have seen
it first hand -- and not in the usual centers of leftist discontent.

This tour has taken me to Ridgewood, New Jersey (area that always
returns its Republican congressman), Arlington, Virginia (a town
filled with military people), Grass Valley, California (in the middle
of nowhere in a congressional district represented by a right-wing
Republican). In each of these towns it's been a literal mob scene.

The Virginia bookstore says that "this crowd is an all-time record."
The line is out the door in downtown Ridgewood, and the store does
not have enough books. In Grass Valley, so many have come from
hundreds of miles across the Sierras that can't get in, so I tell the
hundreds out in the street that I'll stick around and do a second
show. Three hours later they are still there, and I do it all over
again.

I want to thank all of you who have written. I read your emails at
night and I am so sorry I don't have the energy to respond. Hundreds
of you have written to say that your bookstore does not have the
book.

The main reason that is happening is that the publisher has not
printed enough books and cannot ship them fast enough when they do.
Often, it is because the bookstore did not order enough copies. A few
stores, and one chain in particular, have not been exactly overjoyed
to be carrying the book. On the other hand, Barnes & Noble have put
it on their bestseller list and are offering it at 1/3 the price.

Every single independent bookstore I have stopped into has been out
of books and they tell me that both the publisher and the
distributors are not sending them books. I do not know what to do
about this. I have made my calls. I am told everything is OK. I can
see first-hand on the road that it is not OK, and that many stores
simply do not have the book.

You can help me by letting HarperCollins know when you cannot find
the book. Write them at ...
http://www.harpercollins.com/hc/aboutus/contactus.asp Contact Harper
Collins

Again, my sincerest appreciation to all of you and I look forward to
seeing many of you on the rest of this tour.

On Thursday I'll be in L.A., Friday in San Diego, Saturday in Denver
and Boulder, and next week it's on to Michigan and the Midwest. More
cities are being added, so check in at my website, www.michaelmoore.com.

Off to shadow the Cheney shadow government,

Michael Moore
Author
Filmmaker

Write me at:

StupidWhiteMen@aol.com Write to Mike at Stupid White Men

Moore says of his new book, "100 percent of whatever royalties I make on each book sold in every city on the tour will be donated to a local social-change group."

here is a humorous but telling "letter" from his website to George Bush Jr.:

01/29/2002

"George W. in the Garden of Gethsemane"
An Open Letter to George W. Bush from Michael Moore

Dear George,

When it's all over in a couple months, and you're packing up your pretzels and Spot and heading back to Texas, what will be your biggest regret? Not getting out more often and seeing the sights around Rock Creek Park? Never once visiting the newly-renovated IKEA in Woodbridge, Virginia? Or buying your way to the White House with money from a company that committed the biggest corporate swindle in American history? I got a feeling you didn't miss much by not spending an entire Saturday afternoon assembling a Swedish bookcase -- but you should have known that there was no way you would ever finish your term by hopping into bed with Kenneth Lay.

It's kind of sad when you think about it. Here you were -- the most popular president ever! -- the recipient of so much good will from your fellow Americans after September 11, and then you had to go and blow it. You just couldn't stay away from your old cowpoke friend from Texas, Kenneth Lay.

Kenny has always been there for you. You needed a way to fly around to all the primaries and campaign stops in the 2000 election -- so Kenny gave you his corporate jet. Did you tell the voters when you arrived in each city that the bird you flew in on was from a billionaire who was secretly conspiring to give the bird to all his employees and investors? He flew you around America on the Enron company jet, and for that favor you touched down on tarmac after tarmac to tell your fellow citizens that you were "going to restore dignity to the White House, the people's house." You said this standing in front of an Enron jet!

Man, you loved Lay so much, you not only affectionately referred to him as "Kenny Boy," you interrupted an important campaign trip in April, 2000, to fly back to Houston for the Astros opening day at the new Enron Field -- just so you could watch Kenny Boy Lay throw out the first pitch. How sentimental!

I mean, you loved this man so intensely that, when you were awarded a set of keys the Supreme Court had made for you so you could live in the White House, you invited Kenny Boy to set up shop -- at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! He interviewed those who would hold high-level Energy Department positions in your administration.

You not only let Kenny Boy decide who would head the regulatory agency that oversaw Enron, you let him hand-pick the new chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Harvey Pitt -- a former lawyer for his accountant, Arthur Andersen! Kenny and the boys at Andersen also worked to make sure that accounting firms would be exempt from numerous regulations and would not be held liable for any "funny bookkeeping" (don't you wish you were this forward-thinking?).

The rest of Kenny Boy's time was spent next door with his old buddy, Dick Cheney (Enron and Halliburton, as you'll recall, got the big contracts from your dad to "rebuild" Kuwait after the Gulf War). Lay and Dick formed an "energy task force" (Operation Enduring Graft) which put together the country's new "energy policy." This policy then went on to shut down every light bulb and juicer in the state of California. And guess who made out like bandits while "trading" the energy California was in desperate need of? Kenny Boy and Enron! No wonder Big Dick doesn't want to turn over the files about those special meetings with Lay!

The only thing that surprises me more than all the Enron henchmen who ended up in your cabinet and administration is how our lazy media just rolled over and didn't report it. The list of Enron people on your payroll is impressive. Lawrence Lindsey, your chief economic advisor? A former advisor at Enron! Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill? Former CEO of Alcoa, whose
lobbying firm, Vinson and Elkins, was the #3 contributor to the your campaign! Who is Vinson and Elkins? The law firm representing Enron! Who is Alcoa? The top polluter in Texas. Thomas White, the Secretary of the Army? A former vice-chair of Enron Energy! Robert Zoellick, your Federal Trade Representative? A former advisor at Enron! Karl Rove, your main man at the White House? He owned a quarter-million dollars of Enron stock.

Then there's the Enron lawyer you have nominated to be a federal judge in Texas, the Enron lobbyist who is your chair of the Republican Party, the two Enron officials who now work for House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, and the wife of Texas Senator Phil Gramm who sits on Enron's board. And there's the aforementioned Mr. Pitt, the former Arthur Andersen attorney whose job it is now as SEC head to oversee the stock markets. George, it never stops! My fingers are getting tired typing all this up -- and there's lots more.

Don't get me wrong, George -- I do not think you're an evil man. You don't need any crap from people like me -- heck, you got mother-in-law problems! Now, I have a very good relationship with my mother-in-law, but then, I never told her to put $8,000 of her money into a company my administration knew was going belly-up.

You say you didn't know? Your bag man -- Don Evans, the man who squeezed all that money for you from Enron as your campaign finance chairman (and is now collecting his reward as your Commerce Secretary) -- has admitted that he got calls from Enron begging for help last year because they were going under. Didn't he tell you this?

Then Paul O'Neill, your Treasury Secretary, admitted that Enron and Kenny Boy called him, too, for some special favors to save Enron. Didn't he mention this to you? They claim to have called your chief of staff, Andrew Card, and he said he didn't bother to inform you. What does your mother-in-law think about these boys her daughter's husband consorts with?

I love watching the O'Neill and Evans show. What a couple of cut-ups! They're, like, all proud of themselves for "not doing Enron any favors." Actually, I think it's more like they didn't do your MOTHER-IN-LAW any favors. Enron got LOTS of favors. And why not? Kenny Boy has been your number one financial backer since you ran for governor. No other American or Saudi has given you more money than Kenny Boy and his gang at Enron. O'Neill, Evans, Cheney, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham -- ALL of them gave Lay and Enron special favors from day one. The New York Times
last May was so concerned about how Kenny had the run of the place (1600 Pennsylvania Ave.), they referred to Lay as the "shadow advisor to the president."

And what advice! Who was it that wanted you to deregulate the energy industry further? Kenny Boy! Who was it that convinced you to explore the sick idea of PRIVATIZING our water supply and then allow private corporations to "trade" it in the future? Kenny Boy! Who was it that wanted Social Security to be tied to the stock market? Yup, Kenny Boy! (Imagine, if you will, what would have happened to our precious Social Security funds had they been invested in Enron stocks as you, George, suggested be done during your campaign as yuppies everywhere clucked along in agreement over that genius idea.)

O'Neill's and Evans's admission that they "did nothing" when Enron told them of the company's shell game and impending collapse is reason enough for you and yours to hit the Beltway and never return to that sacred trust we call Our American Government. They are proud of "doing nothing?" By doing nothing, millions of Americans have been swindled. Tens of thousands have lost their jobs. Thousands more have lost their savings and their retirement. Yet your cabinet secretaries gloat over what a "good job" you and they did by "doing nothing."

Let me ask you this: If someone was setting a house on fire, and they called you to help them set it on fire, and you said no you wouldn't help them -- BUT then you also DIDN'T call 911 and inform the police that someone was going to burn down a house, do you think you would have committed a crime?

Of course you would have! You had prior knowledge and then you knowingly and purposefully HID this information from the authorities and the people living in the house! You only admitted that you knew a house was going to be torched when you were confronted by the police. Are you complicit? Yes! Are you an accessory? Yes! Who would even think of going around boasting, "Hey, look what a great guy I am -- a friend of mine told me he was going to commit an act of arson, and then I decided NOT to tell ANYONE about it!! WHOO-HOO!!"

Enron and Kenny Boy bought your silence and the silence of your cabinet members. You yourself didn't have to actually raid the 401(k) accounts of those poor people in Houston (many of whom probably voted for you every time your name was on a ballot). All you had to do was remain silent, change the government regulations that let them get away with it, and install their hand-picked cronies to sit on the "oversight" boards which were supposed to be keeping an eye on them.

While doing all this, you told the American people that these rich friends of yours were not getting any special breaks -- when, in fact, Enron had already scammed their way out of paying NO taxes in four out of the last five years. Your economic "stimulus" bill that you got the House to pass after 9-11 had a section that would give Enron a gift of $250 million of our tax money. You were pushing this bill in November and December, long after your administration knew that Enron was raiding the vault and screwing its workers and investors.

You and your Republican friends are quick to point out that Enron had their claws into the Democrats as well. Yes, they did, and thank you for making the case why we not only need an alternative to the current make-up of the Democratic Party, we need private money removed from our electoral process ASAP.

But, George, let's be real -- the Democrats only got a pittance from Enron compared to the millions you and the Republicans received. Democrats just don't have the killer instinct to do anything right, and they certainly don't know much about making money the old-fashioned way, one off-shore tax shelter at a time. I would expect nothing less from a Party that couldn't even put their candidate in the White House after he had already won the election.

The Democrats are like a Yugo -- you know it won't last long or work well, but it will occasionally get the job done. Fat cats know they can buy the Democrats at discount prices, and so they do. Anyone who tries to deflect this scandal away from you, George, or away from the Republicans, or away from the whole dirty way we elect our leaders, is someone who is desperately trying to cling to what's left of a very crooked system that has to go and go now.

The saddest part of this whole affair was the day the scandal was revealed -- and you denied that you even knew your good friend, Kenneth Lay. "Ken who?" you said. Oh, he's just some businessman from Texas. "Heck, he backed my opponent for governor, Ann Richards!" was your way of trying to deflect the truth that was hitting you like a Mack truck. You knew that he, in fact, endorsed YOU and gave you THREE times the money Ann Richards ever saw from him.

I hardly ever talk to the guy, you said. You were like Peter outside the walls of Herod after they grabbed J.C. from the Garden of Gethsemane. Three times he denied he knew Jesus, and three times the cock crowed. But Peter, unlike you, felt shame and wept, and then ran away.

What shame do you feel tonight, George, for the lies you have told? What shame do you feel using the dead of 9-11 as a cover for your actions, hoping that our sorrow for those lost souls and our fear of being killed by terrorists would distract us from what your boys and Kenny Boy were up to during those horrific weeks in September and October?

It was during those very days, while the rest of us were in shock and sadness, that the executives at Enron were selling off their stock and shifting assets to their 900 phony partnerships overseas. Did they notice the remains of the dead being pulled from the rubble while they were downloading their millions, or were their eyes glued only to the bottom third of the TV screen as the stock ticker with the rigged Enron price crawled across the images of firemen desperate, in tears, to find their fallen brothers?

The country was behind you when you said you were fighting the evildoers who did this. In fact, all the while, the real fight your friends at Enron were conducting was the fight against the clock, to see how fast they could transfer all the loot to their personal accounts and run away. Those were the evildoers, George, and you knew it. And because you, by design or negligence, allowed this to happen, it is time for you to resign. The cock has crowed for the last time.

At the very least, your mother-in-law deserves better.

Yours,

Michael Moore

http://www.michaelmoore.com/2002_0129.html

Thanks for posting Moore's letter

It's written in the Stars.. that which has been hidden.. will be revealed.

Follow Your Heart
Pat

And for the "pets or meat" lady in "Roger and me."

I saw some of the Enron Bankruptcy testimony from the Capitol while I was at my Dad's. Most memorable to me was Sen. Jean Carnahan (a Democrat from Missouri) telling the former Enron CEO that the bankruptcy of the company was nothing compared to the bankruptcy of character in Enron's executive suite. Go Jean!

Maria

Thanks Pat and snowpea!

Love,
Terri

The sad thing is that this is only the tip of the iceberg ... one story of greed and corruption out of hundreds, that span both Republicans and Democrats and career bureaucrats that cross administrations. It is a story of the stealing of America by the rich and powerful.

And as Michael Moore so aptly asked, these criminals DARE to intimidate honest Americans by telling us that criticizing the goverment is "unpatriotic!!???" The true patriots who founded this country put most of their creative energy into crafting a system that would guarantee us the right to criticize our government -- because they knew that exactly this is what would happen if we ever lost that ability ... whether through apathy, through having the protections removed, or through being lied to so thoroughly that we didn't know there was anything to criticize!

I'm with Michael. It is time for a COMPLETE review and overhaul of our government to get rid of this pervasive corruption and to carry out our founders' intentions that nothing like it CAN happen again ... which means not only open investigation of all these scandals, but repeal of all the baldly unconstitutional laws that have been passed in the last 75 years concentrating power and the ability to keep secrets in the hands of the Federal government. This isn't what America is all about, friends. It's time to stand up and be counted and say so, and DEMAND change!

Love,
Greg

The American election process is relatively straight forward,..being comprised of ballots,with these little bits of paper called "chads" in order to make things "simple"...
(perhaps invented by "stupid white men"?)

"one day,the mysteries will be revealed" was also said by the Christ,Pat.

Well now....does anyone want to take any guesses about what's going to happen when all those people (myself included) read this book? Any changes gonna be made? *sigh*

I sent this webpage to my son Stephen....He was a History and Political Science high school teacher....He agrees with Moore and is interested in that book....(maybe we can get him on the forum one of these days....except that he is so darn busy being speaker of our council now..*sigh*....he's a double Cancer with Gemini Moon)

Luv,
Rainbow~

It would be great for your son to join in the discussions I hope he will find the time to peek in at least.

"Any changes gonna be made?"

The first step for change is recognition of a problem. The problem must be defined in order to find a solution.

Disinformation or No Information is the problem. Moore's book is rectifying this situation.

The magnitude of control is so shocking the impact of exposing the Truth could create a 'Stability Panic'. The foundation .... the structure of our daily routine will be shaken to the core. Those who have remained in the Dark and accepted Life as it Is will undoubtedly be the ones who will struggle to cope with the Truth.

Those who are actively seeking Truth will be better prepared to handle the oncoming changes... and assist those who are not.

In the Maya 13 Moon Natural Time Calendar this is the Moon of Intention. March is the only month this year with all Planets in full motion.. nothing retrograde. This is the month to Dream our Dream.. Visualize our World of Harmony and Love... to create it in our Mind... so it will Matter.

This is a Time to be Strong in our THOHTS and our Vision of a Better World.

Follow Your Heart
Pat

Rainbow~ that's the big question! My own thought is that this will be met by a deafening silence in the mass-media, despite its "real-world" success ... until it becomes impossible to ignore, at which time we'll start seeing "reviews" that paint it as rabid fanaticism, or news items that "expose" that Michael is a member of some "dangerous cult" or somesuch. But I think it's a good start, and a VERY positive sign that it's getting the acceptance it is. I think what WE can do is OPPOSE THE SILENCE: talk about it, post messages about it on bulletin boards, write letters to the editor about it, etc.

In the final analysis, we really are in a war, but it's not the one the establishment has proclaimed. It's a war of the people of the world versus the "corrupt powers," however you want to characterize them, and their goal is literally the enslavement of the human race! But this war will not be fought (mainly) on the physical battlefield, it is being fought over control of the human mind. Despite the fact that "they" have most of the world's firepower and military force at their disposal, it's NOT enough to rule the world by physical coercion. They have to "trick" us into voluntarily accepting at least a large part of it. If they fail in this, they will have failed in their plans to implement a coercive New World Order (although there will likely still be various military clashes and police actions, they will not prevail over a population that KNOWS what it is fighting.

It's an information and influence war. Raise the banners!

Love,
Greg

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...although there will likely still be various military clashes and police actions, they will not prevail over a population that KNOWS what it is fighting.

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at Michael Moore's book signing in San Diego so many people awaited having their books signed that the police arrived armed and threatening to arrest all who remained past their "curfew" -- people who were doing nothing other than standing in line for the book signing:

"The San Diego police are coming down the aisle, their large flashlights out (the auditorium lights are still on, so we all understand the implied "other" use of these instruments). The police are telling everyone to "VACATE THESE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY OR YOU WILL ALL BE ARRESTED!" I cannot believe what I am hearing. "YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE ANOTHER WARNING. LEAVE NOW -- OR FACE ARREST!"

The cops approach the stage where I am signing the books. People are visibly frightened -- and about half the book-line bolts toward the doors. I stand up and speak to the officers. "I am the author of this book," I tell them politely. "These people are only here to get a book and all I am doing is signing them. We will be done shortly."

"I don't care who you are," they reply. "We have received a call from the school district and we have been told to remove you. You were supposed to be out of here at 11:00pm." We had apparently violated our curfew.

"C'mon guys, you can't be serious," I said. "Are you saying that you are going to arrest me for signing people's books, and arrest the people who are here because they want to read this book?"

"I don't care what you are doing -- this is your last warning. I am ready to arrest you and everyone else."

"Who is your superior?" I ask.

"I'm it. Only the Chief is above me at night, and I am not going to wake him up. This has already gone through many channels. We are here because this has already gone through many people in the last half-hour, people in authority, and the decision has been made to clear you out of here or arrest you."

...They escorted me and the few remaining souls out of the building. The brave lady who was the owner of the independent bookstore and who was there selling my book, leaned over and whispered to me, "I am willing to go to jail for this if you want me to." Ya gotta hand it to the independent bookstores -- they've been through hell lately, so much so that they are now ready to be led away in handcuffs!

I walked outside and about 40 people ask me if I would still sign their books in the dark of the parking lot. A girl gets out her pocket flashlight. A guy runs over and turns on his headlights. I remark that it feels like we're in some sort of banana republic or East Berlin, secretly meeting so we can have our little book gathering. "Sign quick, Mike, here come the police!"

I finish the last book and hop in my sister's car. She remembers to give me a plaque that had been presented to me in abstentia (while I was outside talking to the people who couldn't get in). It was from the city councilwoman from the area of San Diego we were in. It read "Official Proclamation: City of San Diego Declares -- March 9, 2002, 'Michael Moore Day.'"

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemId=12955

hey Greg...are you psychic or something?

love from snowpea

I love it! Bravo for the independent bookseller who said she'd go to jail in protest if it would help! Here are people getting together in mutual support and standing up quietly but firmly for what is right. Has a bit of the feel of an honest-to-goodness "resistance" movement, doesn't it?

Love,
Greg

I just bought the book last night and stayed up till midnight reading it.

It made me mad, sad, depressed, I laughed out loud several times but mostly it has made me THINK.

I think that Pat is right. Information is the first step.

What astounds me is the "news" reports of an 80% approval rate for G.W. but there sure are alot of people buying this book.

The young man who worked at the bookstore told me it was an "excellent" book.

I can't say I agree with everything in this book but that's because I've got more "investigating" to do. One thing I KNOW for sure is I have always trusted Ralph Nader and the fact that Michael Moore does too says alot to me.

And I must say I can't help but be impressed with the "guts" it took to get this book out to the public.

I saw him on C-span this past week-end and he gave so many examples of corporate greed and he just kept saying how obscene the whole corporate "mind" has become. Now that is something I agree with him 100%!!!

Your book review and comments are great... actually the first personal comments I've read.

'The Truth is Out There' All we have to do is LOOK

From: Michael Moore <mike@michaelmoore.com>

"Stupid White Men" Shoots to #1 on New York Times Bestseller List
Bush/Cheney Prepare to Weep and Leave
3/14/02

Dear friends,

Tonight, while standing in downtown Flint outside the commuter
college I dropped out of because I couldn't find a parking space one
day, I learned that my book, "Stupid White Men...and Other Sorry
Excuses for the State of the Nation" is now the #1 book in the
country on the New York Times Bestseller List.

I want to thank all of you who bought the book and made this happen.
I am truly grateful and I want you to know how much I appreciate you.
The book went into its FOURTEENTH printing today, and has now sold
hundreds of thousands of copies.

The #1 ranking will appear in the Sunday March 23rd edition of the
Book Review section of the New York Times. I just wanted to get this
brief note out to you so you could share in the good news.

The publisher is rushing the book to press in Great Britain where it
is already on the bestseller list without any books being available
for sale. You can find it in the stores within the next 10 days. More
dates to be added to the book tour, especially in Canada...

Thanks again, everyone.

From Flint,
Michael Moore
Author
Filmmaker
College parking lot dropout http://www.michaelmoore.com/
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Follow Your Heart
Pat

Luv,
Rainbow~

Yes, should be VERY interesting!!

Luv,
Rainbow~

Luv,
Rainbow~

I finally picked up the book the other day and am about 2/3 of the way through with it, and unfortunately I have to say I'm a bit disappointed it it so far ... while he DOES do a good job of exposing some of the most blatant corruptions of the current administration, it is very clear that he is still an advocate of big Federal government ... just from a "liberal" rather than "conservative" viewpoint (that is, he argues for massive government spending for social, educational and health programs rather than defense spending, and for strong Federal regulatory power over business rather than the "business-friendly" approach of conservative politics). While I would certainly prefer to see my money spent on social programs than on bombs, this approach fails to recognize the crucial insight that the founders of this country had, which is that BIG POWERFUL GOVERNMENT IS DANGEROUS no matter WHAT is says it intends to do with its power.

Power corrupts, regardless of the stated political views of the power-holders, which is why the framers of our Constitution considered the explicit limitation of government power to be the single most important issue to be addressed in defining the scope of government. That's the bedrock foundation of the American system that was fought fiercely for, and once taught proudly in our schools, and is now essentially ignored by thinkers on all sides of the political spectrum. Unfortunately, many of the fans of Moore's book will come away feeling that our problems would be largely solved if only liberals held the reins of power rather than conservatives, and that's simply not the case. As long as vast money and power are centralized under the control of a few people, that power WILL be abused -- and HAS been, under both liberal and conservative administrations, for a long time. Clinton and Bush (along with whoever will come along next from either of their parties) are both supporters of the New World Order, regardless of the superficial differences in their political philosophies. The only way to prevent the abuse of power is to TAKE AWAY THE POWER ... not give it to those who say that they will use it in a way that we find more acceptable.

Still, regardless of this (in my opinion) fundamental flaw in his thinking, Moore is performing an invaluable service at this time by unmasking the hidden agendas of those current leaders who are trying to ramrod through repressive measures and global domination by dismissing all dissent as "unpatriotic," and for that alone deserves kudos and support. At least it's public dialog about the issues, rather than the monotone "march to our drumbeat or you're a traitor" mentality that is being foisted on us so pervasively these days.

Love,
Greg

If you find me careening a bit too lopsidedly toward the passionate end of the spectrum, though, please let me know ... there is a balancing Virgo in there somewhere!

Love,
Greg

Your energetic Wisdom is instantly missed!

And your outstanding ability to assimilate mounds of information and present "Just the Facts.. Mamm!" Joe Friday style.. I am grateful.. thank you.

I've not read the book but have no reason to doubt your review of it's content thus far. It does not surprise me. My impression of the book's purpose is to Make Big Waves... get the Truth out there.

People know there is something terribly wrong
with our World. People are fed a steady diet to support the present agenda. The Mike Moore's, Ralph Nader's, Congresswoman McKinney's, Kathy O'Brien's and the Linda Goodman forum... and many more...are filling the information gap from all directions. Stimulating people to Respond .. to Wake Up.
To Own their Own Power to be Response Able.

Spider Talk is precisely what we are doing. The Web of deception is being read as we skim upon our Light Lines of Communication.
Talk about Sacred Geometry... Look at the Spider's Web. The Web is built upon Light and it will expose All that is hidden.

This is a segment of Maya del Mar's forecast for today.. in Light of everything the Stars are rather prophetic

"....A third influence today, tomorrow, and in fact all month, is about waking up the people of the U.S. to the value of our freedoms."

Follow Your Heart
Pat

I had the VCR set to tape it (and it did), but I happened to also be home at the same time, due to not going into work today, cuz I've got some other stuff on my mind...*sigh*...

I'd like to read the book, but first, I think I'd like to read TRANCE FORMATION of AMERICA...by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien...

Luv,
Rainbow~

He was much more "tenative" today, almost nervous.

He did seem grateful that his book was well received but today he appeared much more the "stand up comedian" than the political spokesperson of a few weeks ago.

Hmmmm....

Rainbow..remember what you read on Cathys site? A friend offered to send me the book,and I was warned what is in there is a lot worse than the site(very explicit, etc)...so I turned it down. I doubt we could "stomache" the incoming info

Well, I suppose we should allow the guy to be human! He's certainly brought some much needed awareness to the table.

Aries, there are indeed some revelations in Cathy's book that will make your stomach turn, and it's not the easiest thing to read for that reason. But as I've mentioned before, her own attitude toward her experiences is so remarkable healthy and free from bitterness that it makes it easier than it would otherwise be ... in my opinion an ideal way to learn about some things that we really NEED to know, that would otherwise be very difficult to look squarely at. I think it's well worth reading.

Love,
Greg

Hey!!! Guess what I found out... Too late unfortunately... Michael Moore came and spoke at our school yesterday. I read about it in the school newspaper this morning. lol. He spoke about his book, but apparently he also spoke about this controversty that's been going on at our school. You see, the students here voted against a new athletics fee, but the board of regents called an "emergency meeting" of the student government association, who voted again, and they voted FOR the fee. So, a whole bunch of people are protesting it and trying to get the senators who voted for it out of SGA. I guess Michael Moore heard about it from someone, and decided to protest it himself, and so now it's all over the school newspaper. Apparently he said: "Stop George Bush like behavior." lol. Or something along the lines of that... lol. He was referring to the Florida recount. Awww... I wish I had known about it... Then I could have gone.

*hugs* for all!!!
Carrie