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#115932 - 04/06/02 08:30 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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Sabra....please forgive my oversite! I too, wish to welcome you to the forum...

Love,
Rainbow~

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#115933 - 04/06/02 08:40 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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hehe Maria,I almost missed that one due to a great lack of time to read the longer posts..but I have no intentions of blowing the big raspberry at you!

Having a divine connection to a god source will be what is needed to sustain ones sanity with future events. We arent even into the greatest part of a "tribulation" period yet,and lest not forget.."there will be a falling away" because of it.

I think thats absolutely wonderful you have the connection,..I believe thats what its all about. ~~keep the faith!


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#115934 - 04/06/02 11:03 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Aries]
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Aries....raspberries are for making delicious jam....and other delights ..that's how I like to think of raspberries...*sigh*.......I'll blow kisses your way, instead... cuz, love has got to get us all thru this thing...

Love,
Rainbow~

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#115935 - 04/07/02 12:39 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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Thank you Dani and Rainbow for the welcome.

- Maria

Right after I read your last post in this forum, my brother-in-law sent me the link below. Coincidence??? I thought you may like it or any others here that are interested.

When I first open it and it said "Interview with God" I thought oh oh, someone is trying to preach their religion to me and I was about to close the link. But it is not that at all and I even kind of enjoyed it.

Although this link is nonsectarian it is not for the atheist. It does take a few momonts to load because of heavy traffic so be patient. Also, you need the Flash plugin.


By the way, I love raspberries.
Sabra

Here is the link:
http://168.143.173.209/IWGnet.swf


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#115936 - 04/07/02 07:54 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Sabra]
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oh Sabra!!!!!

I have seen it before....but still that was perfect timing!

And no...there are no coincidences...no accidents either.....it came to you at that time so you could share it with us...pure and simple.

And that my friends is how God works.

Little things like that.....they happen all the time.....we just need to stop and say 'thankyou' when they do.

I especially like the one that said....you learn to forgive by practicing forgivness.

I mean...How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

Practice Practice Practice.

"I sought my Soul
But my Soul I could not see.

I sought my God
but my God eluded me.

I sought my Brother
and I found all three."

Maria!!!!! Ginny!!!!!!

I'm glad my estrogen is fine! ...Who has time for that eh?

Peace and MUCH LOve and giggles...and just a faint hot flash........

Dani

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#115937 - 04/07/02 08:31 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: searching]
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That really was nicely done. One of the opening scenes, the blue mountain tops, row behind row, looks just like some of the views around here around dawn. And the final scene of the golden rays is still in my mind's eye. Sigh. Very nice. Thanks for sharing that Sabra. And thanks, all, for not making me feel like a total freak for going about my thinking so "religiously" these days. This site is a marvelous gathering of wonderful people, all the way around.

Aries -- thanks for what you said, and the same backatcha!

Ginny and Dani and all

Greg must be up to his earlobes in Spy Vs. Spy, so I'm sending a hunk of good wishes out to him.

Maria

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#115938 - 04/07/02 08:51 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: WriteOn]
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Oh! And strawberry fields and mountain raspberries for all.
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#115939 - 04/07/02 02:24 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: WriteOn]
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Sabra...I just saw The Interview With God...what a beautiful way to start my Sunday morning....thank you for sharing.....

Strawberries, cherries,
and an angel kissing spring
my summer wine
is really made from all these things...

Luv,
Rainbow~

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#115940 - 04/07/02 04:30 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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#115941 - 04/07/02 09:51 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: searching]
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Sabra, I had seen that before too, a while ago, but what lovely timing to have it brought up again now. It is beautifully done, and gives a bit of perspective to all the challenges and things to be worried about these days, doesn't it?

Maria, thanks for the good wishes and strawberry fields I have indeed been up to my ears in spooky stuff ... or as we say in my native Louisiana, up to my ass in alligators! The good news is, I WILL be hosting the Trance-Formation website for Mark and Cathy ... and if any old spooky types are inclined to storm my mountain yurt, they'll just have to contend with Casper, our 150-pound mutt (we think he's white Lab mixed with Polar Bear), who will lick them to death on the spot! It may take a week to 10 days or so to get everything all set up, but they'll be back online soon.

Power to the people!

In the meantime, to those who have expressed the thought that it's hard to keep from swinging between extremes of attitude and emotion in the face of all that's happening in the world and all the hidden agendas coming to light, I'd like to suggest a big group hug to remind ourselves that we are all spiritual beings headed up the same mountain to the summit of One-ness in Love and goodwill, and we'll all make it there regardless of the scary twists and turns the path may take.

In times like these, it's easy to flip-flop between righteous anger that energizes to action on behalf of change, and bleak depression fueled by hopelessness in the face of what may seem like insurmountable obstacels. But it is indeed about our connection with the Divine, however we conceive it, and our unwavering faith in the ultimate triumph of peace and Love and truth and beauty and goodness. There are no forces on Earth or elsewhere strong enough to stand against the power of Love, in the long run.

Mark and Cathy are a great inspiration to me. Cathy is someone who has personally endured real-life horrors far beyond the worst nightmare realms of the most twisted imaginings of Kafka, Poe or Lovecraft ... yet her message to humanity is not one of bitterness and despair, but of faith, hope and love. She seeks to open our eyes to the dark underside of our world's power-structure not to arouse anger at the perpetrators of such evil, but to arouse compassion for its victims (all of us, in one way or another) - and a loving resolve to change the world by changing ourselves, by putting Truth and Love above greed and power in all we do, and demanding the same of all we deal with.

All we have to do to change the world is to see clearly and speak the truth, and to firmly and fearlessly refuse to go along with what is driven by fear and power-madness.

And we will.

Love,
Greg

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#115942 - 04/08/02 01:17 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Gregory]
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Power to the people, indeed!

Greg, I think it's wonderful that you are helping Mark and Cathy...what a great friend you are...

If Casper would come to the point where he needed any help, guarding you, we could always use BEAR WALK (and that ain't no fun at all)... [just kidding])

Congratulations! You are a hero...

Luv,
Rainbow~

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#115943 - 04/08/02 01:21 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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Ps....oh yes....

((((((((((((((((BIG GROUP HUG))))))))))))))))

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#115944 - 04/08/02 02:36 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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((((Group HUG back atcha))))

Can Casper show everyone where the good silver is like Silky Rinx does?

I'm proud of you Greg.....I think you are terrific!!!!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE RIGHT ON!

Love to all us Everyday people!

Dani

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#115945 - 04/08/02 04:51 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: searching]
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Thats GREAT Greg..good job!
Should get even more interesting

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#115946 - 04/08/02 04:30 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Aries]
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You go Greg!! Please keep us apprised of the situation. Is there anything we can do?

All, here is my part of the everlasting hug:
((((((((((((((((BIG GROUPHUG))))))))))))))))

Sabra


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#115947 - 04/11/02 04:27 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Sabra]
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A brief update -- the new Trance-Formation website is coming along and should be up and running within the next couple of days. I'll holler as soon as it's viewable, and I'd appreciate feedback on the layout and user-friendliness of the site (it will start out as pretty much a duplicate of Mark and Cathy's old site that was shut down by the Establishment, but the old design and navigation are a bit clunky, so I hope to make some improvements in that regard.)

In the meantime, for those of you within spitting distance of Toronto, there is an opportunity this coming weekend to see Mark and Cathy in person and learn more about this insidious mind control technology and how it is being used by the power structure to undermine ALL our freedoms. Here is the announcement:

quote:
We will be speaking publicly for the first time in almost a year this weekend in Toronto (Canada) and for those of you who may be interested in coming out to shake hands &/or know someone who could come and gain from the experience please check out this web site for details and ticket information: www.sumari.ca/events.html

We will be speaking on Saturday April 13th and hosting a limited seating only (50) interactive workshop on Sunday April 14th. Cathy & I would appreciate any & all help you can provide in getting this information out to whomever you know of that could attend. May God bless each & every one of you & yours and we look so forward to seeing you in Toronto next weekend.

Thank you and stay safe!

- Mark & Cathy


Love,
Greg
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#115948 - 04/18/02 05:27 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Gregory]
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Hi all, sorry I've been so scarce lately, I've been running a mile a minute. The new Trance-Formation site is just about ready to go online, so if anyone would like to take a look at it, here's the direct link:

new Trance-Formation.com site (in progress)

There are still some broken links, and I haven't got the email server for them set up yet, so the email links don't work. I also haven't put their shopping cart (where you can order the book and tapes) into the new format yet ... it's an old cart made with spaghetti-code Java scripts held together with bubblegum and baling wire ( ) so I may end up just rewriting it rather than trying to coerce it into a friendlier format. Anyway it's a start and will get them back online. Any feedback will be very welcome.

Love,
Greg

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#115949 - 04/18/02 10:55 PM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Gregory]
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Gregory.....this is marvelous! I took a peek at the site (going to go more in-depth, as soon as I post this).....But from what I've seen so far, you've done a terrific job!!!

You are indeed a wonderful friend! You're the kinda guy who makes it easy to understand what that word LOVE is all about! *sigh*...I know Cathy and Mark must be truly appreciative....You have my deepest respect and admiration....

Luv,
Rainbow~

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#115950 - 04/19/02 12:17 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Rainbow]
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Greg,

Very nicely done. In January, I took an HTML Web Design class as part of my database programming major and this is one of the better layouts I have seen. I believe in keeping web sites simple without a lot of the fancy stuff.

The site has good navigation and excellent use of colors. I really like the navigation bar on top, although I am surprised you didn't use frames so the user doesn't have to keep scrolling up to go to a different page. It will also help to have a back to the "top" link on the bottom of the pages.

It would be good to have dates on the various articles when they were written and the author's name. A few of them do have a date.

Another suggestion: the links below the "Articles" link on the navigation bar, the vertical spacing needs to be increase ever so slightly.

The excellent layout and the spacing makes the site a very easy read. I wouldn't change to much of anything else. I love the "TRANCE FORMATION OF AMERICA" logo at the top.

See all the stuff I learned a few months ago. Hope this helps.

Sabra


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#115951 - 04/19/02 02:27 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Sabra]
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Thanks, Rainbow and Sabra

The reason I didn't use frames is that it actually hurts the positioning of a site in the search engines ... the robots enter through the main page and then "crawl" through the site following links, and a frameset stops them cold, so you end up only getting the main page indexed! You're right though, that a link to "top" would help, along with some lateral links.

Good feedback about the spacing under the "Articles" menu - that's probably because your browser is using a different default typestyle than mine, and I need to allow more room. What browser do and computer do you use?

Thanks again for the feedback (and compliments!)

Love,
Greg

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#115952 - 04/19/02 03:46 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Gregory]
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That's what I get for not being around more often lately! I would have loved to have gone to hear Mark and Cathy speak, but I didn't see that post until today!!!

Ok - I'm over that now....

Off to check out Greg's masterpiece-in-progress....

Love,
Terri

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#115953 - 04/19/02 04:40 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Terri]
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Hi Greg,

I use:
Gateway Desktop
IE version 6
resolution: 1024 x 768
screen size: 17"

For Web pages that don't have a specified font my browser is using Tahoma for a Web page font.
My text size is set to "smallest" under view. I tried different text sizes and change to a 800 x 600 resolution. It didn't make a difference.

Strange:
I went to my Dell laptop which has the exact same settings as above and the same version of IE. There is enough vertical spacing under the "Articles" menu when viewing the site on the laptop. The only difference that I can see is that the laptop's screen is 15" and the desktop has Win98 and the laptop has XP Pro

Sabra


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#115954 - 04/19/02 04:52 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Sabra]
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Ok, so now I am not anymore, but I am so so . I just read all the artiles etc. at the Transformation site and I just can't talk about it. But Greg, you're a hero for helping to give them their voice back.

Love,
Terri

PS - My Virgo Venus is not letting me go without saying that the white text on the blue side bar looks good visually, but the text that is not bolded is quite hard to see....

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#115955 - 04/19/02 05:00 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Terri]
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Greg, I almost missed the new site..thats GREAT...you a cool dude!

I'll pass the word along..
thanks


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#115956 - 04/19/02 05:03 AM Re: Mind Control / Web Control [Re: Aries]
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Terri..have you got those "rose-colored glasses" on again?
My screen is small and I thought it was ok..well..just my op-onion.

Lovely BLUE color!! very vibrant.


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