I dont know how many of you were priviledged enough tonight to see "Conspiracy Zone"...but it was the best episode Ive seen yet.

The forces of Good and Evil, taken from different view points..
1) a young Presbyterian minister,a young adult christian woman, and a young male actor who seems to have put together the various religions WITH the theory of evolution combined with a spiritual philosophy!!..His ideas hit the mark, with..."there is no good and evil people (persay) but the good and evil deeds that dwell within each and every one of us!
How does it all play into the "picture".???? Arent we all "together" in our evolutionary,spiritual growth?!?! (BUT,its up to us to understand "free will" choices/decisions?)

Excellent show...and as host Kevin Nealon said at the end..."Satan corrupts the innocent"...while "Santa knows whos naughty and nice"

As a "guru" once said to me.."once I had an overstanding ,as opposed to an "understanding"..of the phrase.."I am in the love of the all,and all love is in me"..then I would "get it".

Aries,

Seeking to understand your profound phrase, but without the background of the show maybe difficult.

How did Satan and Santa tie into your statement about good and evil deeds that dwell in humans?

And I couldn't get overstanding and understanding.

Do enlighten. When you shed light, others will be blessed by the sight.

hey scorpguy...nice to see you still around these parts! ..and I like your last words there..

The phrase about santa/satan was only something hilarious to anyone who may have seen the show,as the host of it is actually a comedian, which is good in one way, but in another way it wastes important time. The show needs to be an hour rather than half hour long is all!

The term "overstanding" is a little bit above "understanding" considering UNDER seems to imply theres a ways to go yet.
That much I DO understand..Im still working on the "ALL" part..how much the forces of good and evil are (possibly??) working together, in relationship to our evolvement when its all said and done.

Sooooo, whats your take on how things are moving,prophecy wise? What do you make of the false peace process? any ideas or thoughts..Ide love to hear them. Have you done any research on the idea of Planet x moving into our solar system..cyclical in nature,and possibly having a lot to do with earth changes?

Hey, I reread your phrase about overstanding and it makes sense. But I don't think we'll ever be in that "state" but moving towards that would be enough. For, we are yet perfect but someday we will be. Having a new body and being in the presence of God.

Now, "love for all" may not necessarily be loving evil, but not hating it, though fleeing from it is necessary as we do not want to be part of evil. Some people do hate evil, and this only puts them nearer to evil. As hate is evil.

I have to try not to live in constant anger of the evil things happening, and denying the love for everything. As this will weaken the hope for love and the very spirit of love.

But, first of all, why bother to love? Because God first loved us and created us out of love. And every creation has been out of love, and should be loved. Though some have fallen, yet they are still loved.

Now, how does evil work with good for the good of all? It doesn't evil is always the anti-thesis of good. (Though good should not be the anti-thesis of evil, but the complete reality of perfection). But, when the absolute Creator has in control of both evil and good, we know that all things does work together. (beyond our comprehension).

And, if today the world is still together, we know that its actually the force of God that is holding back evil from destroying the fragile material earth. But, woe to the day when good is removed from evil, when evil has its power to destroy itself. But thats for the good of the good.

Now, enlighten me about Planet X. False peace ... I rather not have the say on whats true and false till I see clearly.

hi scorpguy.
Since the best way to learn and research,is from better sources than personal ones here onsite at certain times...I'll recommend Zecharia Sitchin. He has a site online about this planet,"The 12th Planet" He is well versed in early hebrew,sumerian texts,etc..and used genesis 6 as his basis.("when god(s) came to earth")

Bible scholaring is a tough thing to do when we dont understand about early language and mistranslations..and his ideas will seem off the wall if you are a christian,and its advised to shed some old thoughts and beliefs if one wants to accept his knowledge.
His books include
The 12th Planet
Genesis Revisited
The Lost Book of Enki
The Wars of God and Men
When TIme Began...and a list of Earth Chronicle books such as the Cosmic Code.
Hes written many books,similar to Eric Von Danikens "Chariots of the Gods".
If you've ever read any of Graham Hancocks or Robert Bouvals work about the skies above the pyrmaids,etc..this may interest you.

These are all good supplements to any belief system if you take a scientific approach along with the "mystic" etc.
Because, somewhere in time, it has to "mesh" I would think.

Theres tons of info online now about Planet X..some of it is pretty off the mark..so be careful out there. Many sites are reporting this planets approach as early as 2003 but Sitchin hasnt said this. Its apparently based on a 3600 year orbit...and will be a root cause to many earth changes.

Hi Aries & ScorpyGuy!

There is a similar topic posted on Start Chat: "Demons & Darkness"

Here was my post to the subject:

posted April 18, 2002 08:47 PM
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Hi Eso
I'll try to explain this simply.

I feel that angel/demon, good/evil... lies within us... mostly influence by our past experiences, upbringing and choices we had in our lifetime. It is a battle of who wins or losses. Evil is manifested when evil win and vice versa. This is, i feel, is our karmic path. Reincarnation gives us the chance to battle and overcome these demons/evil then the angels/goodness within us triumph... then it's our purpose to guide and help those battling the same.

Hope this is simplified and helpful.

Cristina

(This has always been an inner belief that I've had from the time I was growing up(defying religious conventions...seeing what was happening around me...family, friends, neighbors, world around) and still do believe and feel strongly in my heart)

Wow, Aries, I know you have been doing research previously, but I didn't know you constantly and consistently read up. How do you find the time? Are you into writing books and producing scholarly papers?

I do have similar hunches you have, but little facts to back it up. Do carry on with your research as it will help.

By the way, whats the node involvement you mentioned thats in my chart? And my saturn/pluto speaks of intollerance?

Sometimes, I do know that apocalpse is inevitable, but I wish it wouldn't be sooner. But, as we see the signs of fig tree leaves falling, we know that the end is near.

The first sign will be the Temple. Once it is built, the others will follow suit immediately.

Hi Christina,

Yeap, we've gotta battle the evil in our lives to experience greater fulfillment. And helping others in this mission is most noble.

So, where you're from and what do you do? Keep it up.

Cheers,
Scorpguy

hi libra_sun...thanks, I certainly would agree with you there..simply put,we cannot do something,without feeling/experiencing the "come full circle" route.
We are given chances...chances to err,and use that learning and make up for those errors.
To err is human and to forgive..divine

Scorpguy. I nearly missed your post there..no, not writing books,although if things hadnt escalated to the point they have,karmic relationship astrology would have been the book to work on.

I have time for these studies,as Im not in a personal relationship right now. I couldnt be unless the other person had the same interests. I work full time,and do everyday things,and nearly ALL extra time is spent on this.
Im working with a friend online in this regard,in various avenues.

What house is saturn and pluto transiting for you right now? Are they aspecting any planets? The nodes will be conjuncting these points in the next few months.From some charts Ive done for friends,I can tell you this configuration says a lot now.If you have any planets natally or progressed that fall into 8 - 18 degrees in pisces,virgo,gemini or sagittarius,you will have something going on. I could take a quick peak at your chart sometime this week if you want.
Feel free to Pm me your data if you wish.

Everything comes from the Basic Assumptions that we make. We only have to re-examine our Assumptions (most of us do not know it), and 'tune' them into empowering assumptions. Then we would see the truth.