Interesting stuff, Aries, thanks for posting this link. Sitchin has always struck me as a level-headed researcher by comparison to a lot of folks interested in these subjects who are prone to "massage" solid research information to reach conclusions that support their own pet scenarios. I especially like the conclusion drawn by the article's author at the end

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There is too much at stake to be taken down unproductive rabbit holes with fear mongering and misinformation. Rather than trying to predict the future, we should be making our future by studying our past.

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Love,
Greg

Thanks for sharing, Aries...*sigh*...very interesting, indeed...

Luv,
Rainbow~

Aries, thank you so much for sharing this article.

I have been an avid reader of Sitchin for the past two years. I have all 8 of his books and recently purchased his last one,

The last one explains who the face on Mars is and tells of a crash landing there. Now, recently, the discovery of water on Mars further supports, in my eyes, validity in the probability of them setting up a temporary settlement on Mars, oh so long ago.

Ancient history has always fascinated me and Sitchin has pulled it together in the most comprehensible way. I started out reading Von Danikan (sp?) almost 25 years ago and what he couldn't do, Stichin did.

I wonder who Sitchin was in the path of reincarnation? I mean, was he Enki? Or any of the original Anunnaki, who has finally incarnated in the proper time to tell the tale that has stumped mankind for centuries?

And, if you read his "The Cosmic Code", you will see the Kaballah, the Hebrew alphabet and the genetic code are all the same, also the emblem of the entwined serpents, known as the Caduceus.

Love,
Donna

Donna...thanks for added info...looks like I'll have to start reading Sitchin, myself...Aries has brought him to my attention, a few times...*sigh*...

Luv,
Rainbow~

Ps...I used to read Van Doniken (sp?) too...

... and the I Ching, whose 64 hexagrams are coded and sequenced identically to the DNA ...

Love,
Greg

L I K E W O W !

Wuv,
Wainbow~

I almost missed this..Interesting stuff guys..thanks!

Donna,Ive had an interest in this since learning about the probability of alterations based on wrongful translations of early scripture. I just picked up a copy of Genesis Revisited at the library,and have a copy of the 12th Planet already...and I shall DEFINITELY read the Cosmic Code.~thanks for that info!.
The I Ching may have to wait for a bit...but sounds great too. I have no doubt numbers play into things as well..
Rainbow,Im glad you read the article..was hoping you would

Donna,about reincarnation...how do you 'spose this all plays into things? Any books on the "connections"? This is something Im discussing with a couple others right now,and would love your input (anyone?) I know about the soul,but when and where does it synchronize?
Many who are heavy into Sitchins books dont believe in a soul!

Here are some great links all related to Sitchin and Gardner, who quotes Sitchin in his books. Rainbow--I hope these help in getting you more info on Sitchin, but it sure is a lot of reading, it took me hours reading these articles, but very informative.

Interview with Sitchin http://www.karenlyster.com/sitchin.html
http://www.mars-earth.com/sitchintext.htm

Gsopel of The Nazirenes http://www.karenlyster.com/arch.html

Laurence Gardner Lectures

Bloodline of The Holy Grail Lecture http://www.karenlyster.com/body_bookish1.html

Genesis Of The Grail Kings http://www.karenlyster.com/genesis.html

The Realm of The Lord of The Rings http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3460/lords1.html

Aries, the Gardner links go into linquistics from another area and all tie in with everything. I think the Nazirene link speaks more of theology and the soul, which Sitchin speaks more of technology and origins rather than spirit, but I haven't read all my Stichin books yet, so I really don't know about soul belief from that point of view. Only that I believe in it and as I read everything, it ties into my belief system and makes the most sense of anything and just confirms it for me.

About how it all ties in and plays with things, in my opinion and feeling about it, well, that is hard to put into words. Except, this whole Middle East thing feels so Karmic to me and that is the place of the original settlement of the Nefilim and all I can think of when I see the news and happenings over there is--"o my gosh, these are the descendents of the original genetic "Adams" and look how they have evolved". I probably haven't expressed that as well as I think it to myself, but I feel it all relates to Cayce's story of The Sons of Darkness and The Sons of Light in the spirit and soul realm of entering corporal vehicles at the beginning. Anyway, those are just some of my thoughts and as I search and learn, and it is ever fascinating.

Love,
Donna

Doesn't Donna always find the most amazing links??

yes, I will be here DAYS reading all this stuff but I find it absolutely fascinating!!

Thanks for the info!

Aries, I have Genesis Revisited and it is a very good book. And it "feels" true to me.

Now I want a copy of "The Gospel of the Nazirenes".

Soooo many books and soooo little time to read them!

Thanks for the links, Donna...I started to read the first one (which is very interesting), but will have to get back to it...I plan on looking at every link, you posted...*sigh*

Luv,
Rainbow~

Thanks Donna, and its nice to see you and Peggy post again..I'll sift thru the links when I can. Ive read all of sitchins site,and you're right, he doesnt tie the soul into things..so hence,why Im looking for more to maybe just confirm my own beliefs. Thanks again.

Theres a documentary titled "In Search of Eden" , which FINALLY touches on "in the beginning", yet doesnt mention Sitchin...its based on archeology,and early language/scriptures. Its excellent,and I watched it on TLC, or A&E a while back.
It was easy to envision the world "nearly ending" where it all began..all a blessed cycle,all for a reason.
I just havent uncovered the whole code yet..lol

Aries, I saw that documentary, too, and I kept waiting for Sitchin to be mentioned, LOL. I thought it was great.

Peggy, too much surfing, too little housework, that is me. I am currently reading
The Lost Book of Enki by Sitchin. It is not as flowing because I think he literally translated it, so the verbs and adjectives do not flow as we speak them in English. But, it is an amazing tale in Enki's own words, of how they trialed and errored in working the DNA, how they came to Earth to save their own home planet. It even mentions the word "soul" when they finally perfected the Being, as Enki refers to it, rather than creature. "A Being, like us" as Enki says.

Rainbow, Happy Reading!!

Greg, I read somewhere that the Tarot is also linked to DNA coding.

Love,
Donna

I've heard that too, Donna, though I have yet to see a persuasive explanation of the link. The clearest connection I've seen so far is the 22 Major Arcana with the 22 Amino Acids, but ...

The parallels with the Ching, though, are astounding! Identical structure, and even the genetic codons that have been "translated" have meanings clearly related to the corresponding hexagrams in the I Ching!

BTW, I'm looking for material in a number disciplines other than astrology to flesh out the Conscious Evolution site, and I'm thinking that Sitchin's ideas are a natural. Any ideas for basic explanatory material that might be available (i.e., public domain or published with permission to copy)?

Love,
Greg

Sitchin's ideas sound good to me, Greg.....hope you're able to get the go ahead...How about some stuff from The Brotherhood of Light??? Would that be possible???

Luv,
Rainbow~

It could be, Rainbow~. I'm looking into that now.

Love,
Greg

alright!

Luv,
Rainbow~

Greg, Sitchin gives permission to copy on his website. He has several articles, some of them basic in his ideas.

One discipline that is very good, is Huna. I have practiced some of this teaching for many years. Here is a link with permission to copy.
http://www.hawaiian.net/~larryw/html/aspirit.html

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This is the most powerful technique in the world, and although it is extremely simple it may not prove easy, because you must remember to do it and you have to do it a lot. It is a secret which has been given to humanity over and over again, and here it is once more in another form. The secret is this:
Bless everyone and everything that represents what you want!

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Here is a short explanation of aka threads, which I know work, I have used this and experienced it.
http://www.solarraven.com/huna-aka.html

Huna is about love and that would definitely fit in with this site.

Love,
Donna

Ooo, I like the Aka cords, Donna. Cosmic taffy. That fits.

Maria

I have found one of the more reputable online sites is one I'll post below...the moderator/author has done his homework,and continues to eek out the "truth"..
http://timedwards.topcities.com/dreamscape.htm

There is also a SIG there one can join to recieve up to date info,and post messages to others etc.
This was posted earlier today...although Edwards is looking for confirmation from others who may have been at one of Sitchins seminars...
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Donna, if you're out there..Im rather fond of the part about Jesus/enki...perhaps an incarnate ??

Brief Notes from Sitchin Seminar 5/31/02 to 6/2/02
> ZS essentially gave a book by book summary of his
> work. All of the material
> he presented can be found there. He also cross
> referenced his work with
> Biblical references (which are also in his books).
> However, he brought
> attendees up to date on the latest corroboration of
> his work by others.
> (Water on Mars, discovery of Planet X in 1983 and
> infra-red government photos
> of what is believed to Nibiru photographed in
> 2001???, for example.)
>
> We have 22 chromosomes plus x and y. There are 22
> letters in the Hebrew
> Alphabet.
>
> The genome project has determined that the main
> differences between man and
> ape lies in the 21st chromosome. (See Cosmic Code.)
> ZS believes that it will
> be proven eventually that copper plays a significant
> role in our makeup.
>
> The twin towers and their significance to the
> Islamic world. The twin towers
> are an emblem of religious importance to Muslims.
> Their priests' garments
> have the twin towers depicted on them and they are
> located at the holy place
> in Mecca. The Muslims considered the WTC towers are
> blasphemous of their
> religious symbology.
>
> In ancient times, women conducted business and "ran
> things."
>
> In 700 b.c. in Assyria. The symbol of the cross is
> first depicted. (See Amos
> re planet of the crossing.) At this point ZS goes
> into the interpretation of
> when Nibiru crosses and causes havoc to earth in the
> past.
>
> ZS also reiterated the lineage of the gods Enki and
> Enlil and although they
> didn't fight, their progeny were in bitter conflict.
> The question, as always,
> who is in charge today? Enlil thought man was evil,
> noisy, and too many and
> wanted to get rid of all of us. Enki was the
> intercessor. My thought:
> Possible that Jesus' role and Enki's role are one
> and the same?)
>
> ZS also talked about the Phobos incident in 1990. He
> says the Nefilim have
> already returned (the Igiggi, their emissaries) to
> Phobos. They are
> reactivating the way station of Mars. (Others in the
> group recommended a book
> by Philip Kraft "Contact Has Begun.")
>
> A committee is being formed to put forth ZS's name
> to receive award(s) ala
> the Nobel Prize for example.
>
> If nuclear incident happened today how long would it
> take for area to become
> safe again? ZS mentioned that it took 70 years for
> the Sinai to become
> passable again, but traces of unusual radiation can
> still be found in the
> area believed to be location of Sodom/Gomorrah.
>
> Annunaki's fuel and method of propulsion? Water.
>
> In Ur, there are two burials which ZS believes to be
> Annunaki.
>
> Creation chamber was at Baalbek (this was basically
> a shuttle launching
> platform while the spaceport was the interplanetary
> launching place.)
>
> Horns's length were related to rank.
>
> I forgot to include the date of return(the most
> important question of all) -
> ZS said it could be anywhere from 2012 to 2057??? -
> definitely not 2003,
> although as you can see from my previous message he
> said preparations for the
> return are already underway (Phobos). He also agrees
> with the possibility
> that Christ's return is one and the same as the
> Annunaki's return

Aries, thanks, that is !!

I have that site bookmarked and it is where I found a lot of my Sitchin links, but I never joined the SIG and boy, I see I have been missing some great information!!

Ah, yeah, I can see the Jesus/Enki incarnate, yep, it even makes sense!!

Love,
Donna

For Donna, or anyone else interested in the Sitchin theories,..another interview with him is scheduled this weekend/Sunday. I received this email a couple days ago from the Earthchronicles group.

"Zecharia will be a guest on the Toronto, Canada, radio station CFRB 1010 on Sunday, February 23rd at 10:00 PM (EST), on the program Niteside hosted by Richard Syrett. The interview will also be carried on the station's internet website www.CFRB.COM "

Hello All,
Aries has started an interesting topic- I was reading a book at Barnes & Nobel just the other day talking about this very topic but I can't remember the name of the book but the author wrote about Nibiru/Annu in one section. I have read other authors concerning Nibiru/ Annu.

Donna- Have you or any one else seen Richard Hoaglands video about the face on Mars? nonoche1981 brought up the face on Mars in another thread. When I get time, I would like to join in the discussion with everyone later on concerning both subjects..

Woody

Hey Aries, thanks, I am glad to have that info, I will eagerly tune in tomorrow!!

Woody, no, I haven't seen Hoagland's video, but sounds interesting. I completed reading Sitchin's book, The Lost Book of Enki and he translates the Sumerian clay tablets that are Enki's diary. The 4th tablet speaks of the face on Mars. It describes it as a tomb carved in the likeness of Alalu, the commander placed on Mars to run the space station as punishment, and in exile. When he dies, his team carved his face in his memory and buried him there. Oh, and Mars is called Lahmu in the Sumerian tablets, just thought it was interesting.

Donna

what a 'coincidence' that I found this thread TODAY when last night I was reading Zecharia Sitchin online and last night was the first time I'd ever heard of him!!!

*off to add books to my Amazon list*

Hello everyone,
I have so many thoughts running in my head right know about this subject. I 'm trying to fit everything together and they are crashing together

From what I have gathered, The Annu came to earth to mine gold in order to help their planet. There were two brothers Enlil and Enki. Karma and reincarnation could explain the Jesus connection.
The Annu understood cloning. Clones were made to work in the mines. This is when they worked with different DNA mixing. The start of the bloodlines. I also read about the bloodline of Jesus. I have read that other beings have mixed with our DNA. We hold splices of different DNA seeded by various races not from Earth which can some times show up as a recessive gene in the population. DNA is how life is recorded- a memeory.

The face Hoagland talked about on Mars was a composite of two faces. A face of a Lion.... and a face of a human.

Well I gotta go- I have more information I would like to share later.

Woody

Please do as this is one of my all time favorite subjects!!

Hello Peggy,
I'm watching the Hoagland vidoe right now.
When researchers used geometric mathmatics to the site of Cydonia they found a repeating mathmatical geometry of the D& M pyramids. One of the repeted numbers was 19.5 degrees.

What was the site trying to tell the researchers? Look to the tetrahedron= a pyramid. A pyramid in a circle. Hoagland showed if you put a tetrahedron in a planet you will see an updwelling of enrgy at 19.5 because one of the points of the tetrahedron will be at 19.5 degrees - On Jupiter that would be the site of the "Hurricane". On Earth that spot would be on the Hawaii Manunakea volcanoes. On Mars that would be the Olympus Mons containing a very large volcano- Olympus Mons is direct line with Cydonia.

He also found someone who had researched the Hebrew letter form and guess what? The Hebrew letter form is a variations of two tetrahedrons ( one tetrahedron inside another)
Also, with two tetrahedron put together in a sphere you find.. other dimensions? Higher dimensions projecting back causing a vorticular motion... Like the spot on Jupiter.
I have more to share. I do have to go right now.

Woody

Hello Everyone,

Hoaglands research into the Face on Mars is very interesting. With the discovery of the tetrahedron in a circle, Hoagland and other researchers have developed physics that are not Newtonian physics but hyperdimensional physics. Newtonian physics as Hoagland mentioned is outdated and not accurate. Using the tetrahedron physics, Hoagalnd has found out that someone( I cann't remember the guys name) using the physics of the tetrahedron has made a machine that can produce free energy ( no more oil useage)and it can be used for anitgravity purposes too. Also, he stated that we need to use this mathmatical discovery and eliminate the Newtonian physics. In my next post I will explain how our government already knows of this mathmatics but have not told the public. A flight of the space shuttle Discovery back in the early 1990's filmed an amazing incident. The shuttle recorded a UFO flying above Earth then a flash from Earth. This flash was a shot ( Hoagland thinks it's a Star Wars type program.) directed at the UFO; however, the UFO excellerated to over 200,000 mph. That's about 14,000Gs. This flying object uses the tetrahedron physics as does the shot at the flying object. I will go more into detail about this incident in my next post.

Woody

Good online broadcast on NOW..William Henry..
This was last nights Coast To Coast.
Ya'll just missed a great segment on reincarnation.
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Stargates & Other Mysteries
"The human body could be the most powerful technology on Planet Earth…We are talking about a tremendous spiritual and supernatural power that's embedded in each and everyone of us," said investigative mythologist and author William Henry (williamhenry.net) in his Monday night appearance on Coast.

Countering Mike Heiser's remarks about Nibiru being the Pole Star, Henry said that this heavenly body referred to by the ancient Sumerians, may actually be a stargate rather than a star. Reinterpreting one of Zecharia Sitchin's findings, that the extraterrestrial Annunaki came here to mine gold, Henry said that the Sumerian word for gold may actually mean souls, and that the human body could have been designed as a vehicle to travel through a stargate.

"I predict military activity in the Yucatan probably around 2008," Henry said, believing that the US may take such action as a way for them to get their hands on ancient pyramids which could serve as a "blueprint or instruction manual," if the stargate or "serpent rope" was to return in 2012, as possibly foreseen by the end of the Mayan calendar. Henry doesn't see such an event in 2012 as an ending but rather as a "cosmogenesis" or rebirth.
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www.mojoradio.com (should be on til 10:00 PM pst)

Hey guys -

Well if Nancy Leider and the Zetas are correct we have a week before Planet X is here. If that were true - if this were your last week on the planet, what would you do? I was thinking about that late last night and it occured to me that some of the things I thought I'd do I could be doing every day. What about you?

Love,
Terri

Ha! Did you hear Noory ask the same thing a while back Terri?...asking us all what we would do if we knew...(?)

I think there would be so much panic and chaos that its a hard thing to answer right now.

Probably phoning everyone up and telling them Ide see them on the 'other side' would sum it up for me..

Yep, one week til showtime...doodoo do do...

Next week on Coast To Coast..

Hosted by
George Noory
Guest(s)
Phil Plait Tuesday, May 13
Astronomer Phil Plait ( www.badastronomy.com ) will refute the claims made by various people that a 'Planet X' will pass close enough to the Earth to cause a pole shift and spur many disasters in the next few weeks.
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And for anyone wanting to research further, this was another excerpt from a recent Coast broadcast...

" Recap
Decoding Nibiru
Nibiru or Planet X is not likely to come into our solar system in May or anytime at all said Mike Heiser ( www.michaelsheiser.com ) an expert on ancient texts, who appeared on Monday night's show. Heiser has studied the same Sumerian texts and cuneiform that Zecharia Sitchin has based his "12th Planet" theories on and come to very different conclusions.

He believes that the texts indicate that Nibiru was a star rather than a planet. "Nibiru shows up in an annual catalogue of star movements," which doesn't correlate with Sitchin's 3,600 year orbit for the planet, Heiser explained. The Sumerians referred to Nibiru as the planet or star of "crossing." To Heiser this indicates they were talking about the Polar Star, which changes over time based on the gradual wobbling or "precession" of the Earth.

Heiser said the Sumerian references to the Anunnaki do not point to an extraterrestrial presence. The texts "just don't support Sitchin's reconstruction," he stated. Further, his decoding of Sitchin's oft-cited cylinder seal yields a star and a constellation rather than the sun and 11 planets."
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By the way, my own research keeps pointing to the ancients calling Jupiter, "Nibiru".
This was a link posted recently on another SIG. (albeit, a NASA link... )

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-349/ch1.htm

Howdy All,

Barbara Hand Clow writes this about Nibiru in her book CHIRON:

"Since we do not have an official sighting and ephemeris, all we can look at is the overall influnce of Nibiru. As documented in ancient sources, Nibiru rules our relationship with "the Gods," the beings who came down and periodically influnced human affairs. There are records of many gods who penatrated earth when Nibiru was in perihelion in 3600BC and 0 AD. However, since Nibiru functions like any other planet, these gods influence us during all the phases of it's orbit. Nibiru rules balence in this solar in system ( meaning that I will first study it in charts as the possible ruler of Libra when we get an ephemeris) because it has been known to unbalance orbital paterns of the other planets when it moves in through Pluto and swings in through the asteroid belt... It also rules our relationship with "the other" the main issue of all self/other dynamics because the ultimate other for us to get used to is extraterrestials...

Nibiru rules the cycles and qualities of contacts with these gods who come to instruct and guide humankind for better or worse..
Whatever else they are, they have always been forces for radical change, possibly even Earth changes. We sense that something big is coming.

From the Book CHIRON by Barbara Hand Clow


Woody