#117683 - 05/31/02 04:30 PM
Mission statement
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The Conscious Evolution website has been hanging around in an unformed state for years - an idea patiently waiting for the right time to make it into something real. With the sudden closing of the Linda Goodman website, "the right time" came rather unexpectedly! The best laid plans of mice and men ...  I realized that the concept of Conscious Evolution has been a vague idea in my own mind that I've never articulated in concrete form, so for the past week I've been working on a "mission statement" to give some shape and direction to the suddenly real site - and the first stab at this description is now online. It's hanging off the opening paragraph of the home page and the "About Us" menu, or you can get to it from here: What is Conscious Evolution? Feedback is much appreciated. Is it clear? Does it resonate with the folks who visit here? Is it anything like what you thought the site would be about from the name? Lemme know. Thanks! Love, Greg
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#117684 - 05/31/02 09:04 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Greg... Have you had your hir all cut off??? Lis
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#117685 - 05/31/02 09:27 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Hi Greg Ok this seems rather like Marxist phylosophies??? He concepts were distorted weren't they...I can't say I've studied them but roughtly speaking. Lov n hugs Lis
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#117686 - 05/31/02 10:21 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Omigod, Tink - Marxist?!! Jeez, I better read it again, if it's coming across as Marxist then I've done a terrible job of communicating. Marx was all about class struggle and control ... you know, "the dictatorship of the Proletariat" and so on? I'm about the exact opposite - no class struggle and no control! The intro was not meant to be political, but spiritual ... just coming from a more modern "holistic" point of view than the way it's usually approached in the traditional spiritual and mystical disciplines, but really expressing pretty much the same viewpoint Linda talked about as the Aquarian-age shift toward a more spiritual way of seeing and understanding. Hmm, maybe I did explain this poorly, I better ponder it some more.  Love, Greg PS - I did chop my hair off a couple of years ago. It's grown back again since that picture, but not yet to the middle-of-the-back length it used to be! 
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#117687 - 05/31/02 10:31 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Greg.. Please don't change it, I have not read Markx, I have jsut ehard that is was about non higherachical soeity and the equality of people. Sorry I didn't mean any offence, it's a perception thing. In Europe it is not a dirty word...honest...as I say I havn't read any of Markx ...it's a perception thing. Sorry Lis
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#117688 - 05/31/02 10:37 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Greg... I only ment his phylosophies not the politics...I think the politics screwed up his phylosophies, which to my knowledge were about people beign equal and havign equal responcibility and input etc. I migth be wrong I've never read any of it, It's jsut what you learn as you are going through. I like the short hair, makes you look relly young!!! GRIN! Lov n hugs Lis
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#117689 - 05/31/02 10:59 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Heh, heh, don't worry Lis I didn't take it as an insult!  I really wanted feedback on how it came across, 'cause I know it's a bit abstract. I was just horrified because I have read Marx and really think he was way off base. But I know what you're saying, he does talk a lot about "equality" and such, and people do tend to think of him as a peaceful idealist whose concepts were distorted by the Communists. Whole different frame of reference, though.  Glad you like the pix, Firesong keeps telling me to keep my hair short too. I've grown it and cut it off in cycles since I was a kid, guess I just get tired of seeing the same person in the mirror too much! Love, Greg
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#117690 - 05/31/02 11:20 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Thank goodness for that...it was not mean to me offensive. The article does communcate well even If I am screwing up my phylosophers. I am not sure how pragmatic the whole concept it, it reminded me of bees hive system..but there there is always a queen bee...at some point someone needs to take reponsiility for those not willing to take responcibility, therefore you get leares nd followers. IMOHO. I think. There was a lady here jailled for not having her kids in school...made all the national press. She was released on appeal. However the kids did go to school and have promised to go to school in the future...power taking control of her life and getting her kids educated. There are always people who do not want to take responcibilit and onership for themselves. I am not really sure where my head is at.... so I will shut up Lov n hugs Lis PS Guys ahve the ability to grow beard and shave and stuff...it always takes ten years off them.... ...either way long or short...you are still 
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#117691 - 06/07/02 11:16 AM
Re: Mission statement
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Hi Greg, I just got around to reading this. Nicely done. Everything flows, makes sense, is intriguing and leads nicely into the site. I have just one qualm about word choice. I don't think "wisdom" really describes what you are referring to in the following passage: quote: What will we become? We have grown in knowledge and power beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors, but our wisdom has remained at approximately the level it has been since before the dawn of recorded history. Our politics are still based on the same model of domination-oriented city-states that characterized the ancient Sumerian empire, our economics are still based on the same model of amassing personal wealth, our interpersonal relationships are still based on possessiveness and ego gratification. The day of reckoning has come: unparalleled power and primitive wisdom are not compatible. Unless our collective wisdom makes a quantum leap to match our Godlike power, we can look forward only to global warfare, totalitarian domination, and predatory consumption of resources and production of wastes culminating in ecological suicide. What will we become?
In the third use, where you talk about "collective wisdom," that works for me. But in the earlier two references, it seems to me that what you're really talking about are "ways of relating to each other" or "the structures of our civilization" or something. I know that's more wordy than wisdom, but "primitive wisdom" seems like it might slight something different from what you mean to slight. Such as some of the traditional oracle-type tools that will be included in the "eclectic mix" of goodies you'll be adding to the site... Just a thought. Over all, though, quite nice. Love, Maria
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#117692 - 06/07/02 02:49 PM
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Thanks Maria.  Good observation about the wording, too. Actually, I think it is wisdom I'm really talking about here ... as in, building a social structure that can only sustain itself by perpetually expanding its consumption of resources (and therefore leading to conquest-based colonial expansion, consumption-based economic expansion, competition-based information-hoarding and misdirection, and profit-based environmental depletion/degradation) may very well be "smart" in a narrow momentary-gratification sense, but is not wise as a long-term strategy for human survival and well-being. But I may be undercutting this point by referring to this lack of wisdom as "primitive wisdom" ... since, as you quite correctly point out, some of the wisdom traditions of "primitive" people are exactly what we need to re-connect with! Actually, it's not true that our wisdom has remained at the level it was at in pre-history ... what is actually true is that our wisdom deteriorated with the introduction of empire-style civilization! I'll see if I can come up with some better wording to make that point. Thanks for pointing it out!  Love, Greg
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#117693 - 06/08/02 02:28 AM
Re: Mission statement
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Mission Statement came across clear....I liked the pic too...what a beautiful smile! May this new website be a launching pad for all who come here, to soar to the greatest heights possible...*sigh* May we all consciously evolve spiritually~~~~ Looks like the time is right...*sigh*... Thank you Greg for your time and effort... Luv, Rainbow~
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#117694 - 06/08/02 05:05 PM
Re: Mission statement
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 Does this phrasing make more sense? quote: What will we become?We have grown in knowledge and power beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors, but our wisdom has not kept pace. In fact, it might be argued that human wisdom has taken giant steps backward since the astrological, shamanistic and mystical traditions that flowered thousands of years ago! Our politics today are still based on the model of domination-oriented city-states that characterized the ancient Sumerian empire, our economics are still based on the same model of amassing personal wealth, our interpersonal relationships are still based on possessiveness and ego gratification. The day of reckoning has come: unparalleled power without the wisdom to balance it is a mortal danger to all life. Unless our collective wisdom makes a quantum leap to match our Godlike power, we can look forward only to global warfare, totalitarian domination, and predatory consumption and waste-production, culminating in ecological suicide. What will we become?
Love, Greg
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#117696 - 06/09/02 05:49 PM
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I would quote Tony. We are drowning in Information, Yet We are starving for Wisdom.
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#117697 - 06/09/02 06:09 PM
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Thanks Raj, and welcome to the site!  Great quote -- Tony who?  Love, Greg
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#117698 - 06/09/02 08:34 PM
Re: Mission statement
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I loved reading your mission statement, Greg. And, I also enjoyed seeing a picture of you, now I can stop trying to picture what you look like! I am the same person as Infinity from Lindaland, and you had replied to me there, saying that you read the book, "Concious Evolution" but didn't agree with it entirely. Well, I have to admit that I have the book, but have only read very little of it, so I really don't have an opinion from it. But, what you say here makes so much sense to me! It really is up to us, where we go from here! Have you read the book, "Awakening to Zero Point" by Gregg Braden? I actually FINISHED that book. (something I'm bad about, I will start a book, but not finish it! I still haven't finished Gooberz! I guess I need more stimulus than what reading has to offer, that's why I like forums so much!) Any way, what are your thoughts about Zero Point? Do you believe it's happening? It excites me and scares me all at the same time Love and Light, InfiniteEvolution
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#117699 - 06/09/02 09:49 PM
Re: Mission statement
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Print it.  There's a phrase losing it's meaning now, lol. Used to be when you got every word, letter and punctuation mark in place, you handed the competed page to the guys in the ink-stained clothes and folded newspaper hats (they really do wear those...I think learning how to fold them is an initiation rite of the printers' union)...and said, "Print it." And you had to do the final proofing after the typesetting, because if the typesetter were ticked at you he might put asdfjkl; in the middle somewhere just for fun... It's great. Maria
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#117700 - 06/10/02 12:17 AM
Re: Mission statement
[Re: WriteOn]
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Hi Everyone Love the new site... Greg! It's filled with Light.. so essential for Evolving. Thanks Tink.. I received your message via White Feather And Dani.. I found your e-mail along with Greg's buried with three weeks worth in my earthlink mailbox  I've been Consciously Evolving to a new home on the range... where the Deer and the Antelope play. 1800 miles cross country and I am back in Nebraska where I lived many years ago. I'm right in sync with the Universe as completion and closure of the Past is my agenda. My Dad, whom I often quote, said.. "Patricia, Knowledge is only Knowledge until it is applied." Knowledge applied is Power. Historically it has benefited a few at the expense of the many. Wisdom is connecting with and Trusting our Knowing. And Knowing is Universal Law, which forms the infrastructure of All That Is. EveryOne has Knowing.. but not EveryOne is cognizant of it. Connecting with Knowing/Wisdom enables us to step out of the Physical confines of Reality and perceive a larger view. IMHO... Wisdom is the path to God/Source of All That Is... the undeniable connection as a Child of God. It is Love so Pure it finds Forgiveness easily and holds no Fear. Wisdom is remaining in balance with the extreme expressions being played out Globally.. Universally and Trusting that All Is Perfect and Everything Happens for a Reason. Wisdom is unwavering in holding the Vision of Heaven on Earth. I understood what you wrote originally and felt the 'fuzziness' of your definition of Wisdom, which is what prompted this reply. Perhaps my interpretation will Trigger new THOHTS on the subject. Good to be back... Follow Your Heart Pat
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#117701 - 06/10/02 03:51 AM
Re: Mission statement
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Pat  so good to see you back again! So you've already made your cross-country transplant migration ... excellent! No flies on you.  Yes I love your thoughts on Wisdom. It's one of those concepts you can never fully encapsulate in a definition isn't it? The best you can do is choose words that evoke the internal knowing that's already there. Maria you're right the web is changing all that publishing process. 'Course on more formal sites than ours the paradigm's still in place with staging and "release" versions of content. But it's really less relevant in this environment, and will probably evaporate entirely as everyone adapts to the "immediacy" of the web. Actually, I was pondering this earlier, I'm really comfortable with the lack of process - when I was in the Weekly newspaper business, I not only wrote the editorial but also did the typesetting on a VariTyper and carried the plates to the printer. And when I was a disk jockey I opened the station at 3 am and turned on the transmitters ... and when the tower light burned out I had to put on a long-playing cut so I'd have time to climb the tower and change the bulb before the song was done! I guess it's not that big a switch from a one-horse newspaper and a one-horse radio station to a one-horse website! Heh, heh. Isn't life interesting? InfiniteEvolution (can I just call you Infinity for short? ) I haven't read Braden's book, but I will -- I keep hearing about it! Stay tuned. Glad you connected with the mission statement. Now all we have to do is manifest it!  Love, Greg
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#117702 - 06/10/02 06:38 PM
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I am primarily a Researcher though I can be anything else. I am as much as the Solution Man, as I am the Interviewer. Most of us live in a state of 'Sleepy Wakefulness'. Those deities and gods we used to worship, are Aliens. It made sense to worship them, when they had the 'power' (science, I mean), and when we were just evolving from the animal stage, they were 'gods' to us. Now we are getting close to their science, may be we must awaken the Gods in ours-elves.
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#117703 - 06/11/02 12:42 AM
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Hi There, I hadn't visited LindaGoodman.com in ages, and was pleasantly surprised to see this new development! ( Does anyone Re-member me?) I expect not, but that's okay-- here's to new beginnings Greg, its gorgeous. . . I can't wait to see how it evolves. . . I thought the Mission Statement was lovely. Very in tune with the reality that seems to be manifesting. I know I for one am receiving 'teachings' from within. . . quiet little revelations that change everything. WISDOM. As far as the whole Marx thing goes, I have to jump up and defend the poor man. . .He certainly had his finger on the pulse of his society-- those Victorians were all about PRODUCTIVITY and I think his ideas were born at a time when creation was exploding, hence were very appropriate and timely. . .and a good starting point for the kind of thought processed that lead along the spiral path of evolution. . . Hmmmmm. . .anything else? Don't think so. . . I'll be sure to drop in and see how this site develops. . . I might even have a few topics for discussion. . . A bientot, Jennie 
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#117704 - 06/11/02 08:35 AM
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Wow, Jennie! I remember you from a long time ago! My screen name was WriteOn until about a week ago. I may go back to it, but I'm having fun being the Walrus now. Nice signature quote.  Pat -- Glad to see you back too! Yippee Skippee. Greg -- I love the image of you climbing the tower to change the lightbulb. The more things change...  Hi Raj! Maria
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#117705 - 06/11/02 12:28 PM
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Hi Maria  Oh I do remember you too! Funny, I wanted to change my username, but all I could come up with was Dreamgirl, so I thought-- well. . .what sounds adorable in my head oftentimes, less endearing in reality  But I like Walrus-- how clever- I never saw the magick of the word like that before Its a lovely site. . . I have so many spirals I'm working on. . . going through the ego-shattering part of evolution & its a long, serpentine, backwards and forwards, often disorienting process, but mostly just en-lightening. . . I have a bit of a leisurely summer ahead of me ( she says, nervously, knowing full well that oppositions from transiting Saturn are on their way to her ever-optimistic Sag planets)so I hope I'll be able to drop by on a regular basis. . . I love the DNA design. . . Is anyone here talking about the ways in which DNA is said to be changing now? I was reading a book the other night ( The Camino, by Shirley Maclaine) and when I put it down and got to thinking about some of what I'd just read, I swear I could feel my cellular structure swirling and changing ever so slightly. I could feel my crown chakra being stimulated-- felt as if I were wearing a breezy sun hat-- These are spiritual experiences I used to read about with the utmost skepticism, but now I find they are happening to me rather frequently. . . Another bizarre example of how I sense my physical body is changing, is that a week and a half ago, Mars conjoined my Moon & Jupiter-- as per usual when Mars visits me, I managed to injure myself-- tripped over packing boxes and bruised my inner thigh- never, ever have I seen such a bruise on my own body-- it was ghastly. . . ugh! But it healed SO rapidly that now you can't even see where it was-- it stayed the same for about a week & then over the weekend just 'went away'. . . I wonder if there are any threads regarding this type of thing. . . I should go explore a bit more, In Light, Jennifer
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#117706 - 06/11/02 02:31 PM
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 Wow...I saw the user name triple cardinal and though bloody hell where has she been!!! It's nice to see you around, and no you haven't been around for a long while. So ahve you done your home work !!! LOl One could assume you were actually having a life beyond the forum...you must come and share what you have been up too??? It's SO nice to see some of the long term faces back around the forum! LOL Lis
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#117707 - 06/11/02 03:09 PM
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Hi Tinkerbell. .. Oh, a life beyond the forum-- life beyond the computer (touch wood) I'm such a natural born escapist I try to keep myself balanced between physical life & purely mental pursuits . . . hehe, I'm sure we all do. . . Busy, busy girl I've been. . . moved around, more than halfway through my Honors degree in English at University. . .also taking a good bit of Sociology & trying to decide if I'm headed for a Master's degree & a career or a low-key life and marriage & babies or WHAT!!! & just taking it slow, trying to be good. . . learning, learning, learning. . . . and trying to have fun while I'm at it Lots of spiritual evolution though. . . . I still remember back 4 years when all this spiritual jazz started hitting me & I found the LG site and it helped me to get a grip. . . 4 years ago last week I read Star Signs for the first time & felt like I was spiralling into non-comprehension . . . I don't 'comprehend' much more now, but I have picked up a few tricks Good to be back. . .thanks for the welcome, Tink. . . In Light, Jenn
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#117708 - 06/11/02 04:01 PM
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[Re: Triple Cardinal]
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TC!!  Of course we remember you! It's amazing how many "old-timers" are on the forums these days, along with all the newer folks inspired by Linda's writings and new age vision of peace and Love. So great to see you here again! Actually, we don't have a lot of threads yet on the ways we are consciously evolving at this point in time ... I think of this as a "wake up call" period when there's a lot of focus on what NEEDS to change, brought home to us in stark terms by the Saturn-Pluto opposition and the WTC attacks and the rapidly-changing state of the world in so many ways ... but that's exactly the kind of discussions the site is meant to encourage ... the two faces of change are recognizing what needs to be discarded and letting it go ... and recognizing the changes that are emerging to REPLACE the old, and embracing them. If you have thoughts and experiences along these line, please share them with us! Welcome back.  Love, Greg
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#117709 - 06/11/02 05:23 PM
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Welcome home, Triple Cardinal... Luv, Rainbow~
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#117712 - 01/11/07 09:36 PM
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me too  keyword : "recognizing" =an awareness thanks for reading, Soloc 
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