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#120224 - 10/25/02 01:59 PM
The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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I'm boohoo-ing over this. We need more college professor/grass-roots organizers who'll stand alone for the little guy and who are willing to be the "beating heart" of their political parties. GD airplanes.
Love,
 Maria
Sen. Wellstone Dies in Plane Crash
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EVELETH, Minn. (AP) - Sen. Paul Wellstone, an outspoken liberal Democrat locked in a re-election battle considered key to control of the Senate, was killed in a plane crash Friday in northern Minnesota along with his wife, daughter and five others.
The twin-engine private plane went down in freezing rain and light snow near the Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport, about 175 miles north of Minneapolis. The cause of the crash was under investigation.
Wellstone, a 58-year-old former college professor and one of the foremost liberals on Capitol Hill, was on his way to the funeral of the father of a state lawmaker.
"It's just terrible. Say a prayer," said Lisa Pattni, an aide who was at the crash site.
All eight people aboard the 11-seat King Air A-100 were killed, said Greg Martin, spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration (news - web sites). Campaign officials confirmed the victims also included Wellstone's wife, Sheila, and daughter, Marcia; three campaign staff members; and two pilots.
Wellstone's death just 11 days before Election Day threw the battle for the Senate into uncharted territory. Before Friday, Democrats held control by a single seat.
State officials were researching whether Wellstone's name would remain on the ballot, or whether independent Gov. Jesse Ventura or state Democrats could appoint a replacement to serve in the upcoming lame-duck session of Congress between Election Day and the arrival of new members.
State law allows the governor to fill a vacant Senate seat, but also allows a political party to appoint a replacement in the event of a death of a nominee. The name must be offered within seven days of the death and at least four days before an election.
Shaken Democratic officials wouldn't immediately comment on possible replacements, though party spokesman Bill Amberg said he was confident the party would be allowed to offer a replacement. Rebecca Yanisch, the state trade commissioner who ran for Senate in 2000, indicated she might be interested.
Two years ago, Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan (news - web sites) was killed in a plane crash three weeks before Election Day while running for the Senate. Carnahan's name remained on the ballot and he beat Republican Sen. John Ashcroft (news - web sites). Carnahan's widow, Jean, was appointed to serve in his place and is now seeking election to a full term against Republican Jim Talent.
Wellstone was up against Republican Norm Coleman, a former mayor of St. Paul and President Bush (news - web sites)'s choice to challenge the two-term incumbent. A Coleman spokesman, Ben Whitney, said: "Our prayers are with the Wellstone family. That's all I'm going to say."
Ventura said flags at state buildings would be flown at half-staff through Nov. 5. In Texas, Bush called Wellstone "a man of deep convictions."
"He was a plainspoken fellow who did his best for his state and for his country," the president said. "May the good Lord bless those who grieve."
Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., called Wellstone the "soul of the Senate. He was one of the most noble and courageous men I have ever known."
Before running for office, Wellstone was a professor and community organizer who fused the two passions in a course he taught at Carleton College in Northfield called "Social Movements and Grassroots Organizing."
He stunned the political establishment by knocking off Republican Sen. Rudy Boschwitz with a longshot bid for office in 1990. Afterward, left-leaning Mother Jones magazine called him "the first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. Senate."
Wellstone had pledged to stay for no more than two terms, but last year, he announced he would be running again. In February, he announced he had been diagnosed with a mild form of multiple sclerosis but he said it wouldn't stop his campaign.
"For me, no stress would be stress," Wellstone said at the time. "The stress of this campaign is what I want to do, to be perfectly honest. And the stress of being a senator is what I want to do."
State Democratic Party chairman Mike Erlandson said Wellstone for years had been "the heartbeat" of the party.
"He took pride every day in fighting on behalf of the people of Minnesota," he said.
Liberal to the end, Wellstone cast his vote earlier this month against legislation to authorize the use of force in Iraq — the only Democrat in a competitive race to go against Bush on the issue.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson (news - web sites) and United Nations (news - web sites) Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) both called Wellstone a champion of peace.
"He was a profoundly decent man, a man of principle, a man of conscience," Annan said.
"Wellstone stood up for the little guy," added AFL-CIO President John Sweeney. "He was tireless and unapologetic for championing the rights of working men and women — even when he stood alone, and he often did."
Wellstone also had two sons, David and Mark, and six grandchildren.
The King Air turboprop was made by Raytheon Corp. with Pratt & Whitney engines, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. The owner was listed as Beech Transportation Inc. of Eden Prairie, Minn., and the plane had been leased by Wellstone.
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#120226 - 10/25/02 02:25 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Sigh. This is sad and discouraging. I had not followed his career and really know nothing about him, but the few words said by others speak volumes. The loss of any principled public official is a real loss to the world. Thanks for posting this. Love,  Greg
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#120228 - 10/25/02 03:20 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: WriteOn]
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 Why do bad things happen to good people? I fail to understand this.
I know life can be so unfair at times but I just can't accept "it was meant to be" or anything similar to that effect as an answer or explanation. My heart goes out to all the family's relatives. Another sad and tragic event.
I remember when Sen. Wellstone first ran. At the time a lot of people, especially politicians (even in his own party) thought of him as a laughing stock. He never wanted to be thought as a politician but rather as a person who sincerely wanted to help the less fortunate. He always had the courage to speak his mind in the senate. In the last few years both political parties grew to respect and admire him quite a bit.
Maria, thank you for posting this and letting us know. I didn't know this had just happened. He will sorely be missed. We need more people like him.
Sabra
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#120229 - 10/25/02 03:24 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Aries]
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I have to admit it crossed my mind, Aries. Wellstone was also a staunch environmentalist who filibustered Bush & Co.'s arctic wildlife refuge oil-drilling plans, and, perhaps more importantly with regard to the dark forces question, he was a fierce critic of the Bush administration's cozying up with the government of Columbia (in supposed anti-drug programs) because the government of Columbia is ever-so-cozy with right-wing paramilitary death squads responsible for huge amounts of torture and death in that country. The Catholic Church has done a lot to expose the responsibility of South American governments, military and paramilitary, often with ties to the U.S., in the killings and horrible human rights violations of the people of those lands. Wellstone was keyed into that knowledge. He condemned as bogus an FBI report on the "suicide" of a Minnesota priest who was a human rights champion in Kenya, who had received plenty of death threats and then was found shot to death. As I said, the FBI called that murder "suicide."
I have read of too many highly suspicious small-plane "accidents" to entirely rule out the possibility of murder. But then again, the senator and his family were going to a funeral, which is not something planned terribly far in advance, and freezing rain has got to be dangerous weather for small planes. It could well have been complete accident.
The control of the Senate hanging in the balance raises my suspicion levels though.
Sigh.
 Maria
Edited by WriteOn (10/25/02 03:34 PM)
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#120230 - 10/25/02 03:34 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: WriteOn]
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 This is sad news... I hadn't heard of him before either, but in listening to the news coverage and reading the article here, it seems very tragic. Well it's tragic when anyone dies in a plane crash, but this guy really did sound unique. I also had some suspiscous thoughts cross my mind about the nature of this accident when I was reading the above. Unfortunately, if it was a sinister murder plot, I'd doubt we'd ever know anyway. Though I heard that remote viewer too, Aries - which does raise the suspiscon level uncomfortably high. Sigh.... Love, Terri PS - At least we can think that this guy is now working unfettered by human constraints on the 'other side'  Maybe he can accomplish more over there...
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#120233 - 10/26/02 10:02 AM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Aries]
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Yes, I too feel like this was a GOOD and DECENT man and that's probably why he's no longer with us. Believe me if you search the net there are already many articles on how this affects the "balance of power". IF there IS free will why are soooo many of the Lightworkers leaving right now??? I don't like what my "gut" has to say about this one.
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#120234 - 10/26/02 10:46 AM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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I don't either, Peggy ... and I haven't said anything because it's only the gut with nothing objective behind it. But the timing and the balance of power and the small plane ... well, I'm keeping my eyes open for further information, and it looks like a lot of other folks are feeling uneasy about this one too.
Love,
 Greg
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#120235 - 10/26/02 11:33 AM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Aries]
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Hi Aries, His birthdata is July 21, 1944, Arlington, Virginia. There wasn't a time mentioned. He was born just a day before me! Peggy, This is so sad, I also had a "gut" reaction when I first heard the news. I feel so bad for his remaining children and the families of all the others involved.  Donna
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#120236 - 10/26/02 01:28 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Thanks Donna! I figured you'de be the one with the data
Lots of Leo in him. First glance I notice the moon was cj. his natal uranus that day.(north node off by a couple of degrees in that cj) The venus Rx was involved in a square to his natal venus/pluto conjunction in Leo.
The full moon in Aries earlier in the week also squared his natal sun/node conjunction.
Astrology = hindsight 20/20
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#120237 - 10/26/02 01:58 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Donna, Where did you find the info  ? Just curious in case there might be someone else that needs looking up. I spent over 2 hours last night searching up and down the web and databanks with various search engines so I could get the birth data for Aries. Then I was going to start again today till I just saw your post. Sabra
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#120238 - 10/26/02 02:03 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Aries]
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You're welcome, Aries!! I have to tell you, I truly didn't know who he was when I saw it on the news because I don't follow politics very closely, but seeing the announcements, it made me feel very sad and heartsick. The first thing I did was find his birthdata. That was eerie, because our charts are almost identical. I was born the very next day, so my planets are maybe a degree further on. I have 18 degrees Scorpio Rising and Leo Moon at 29 degrees, whereas his Moon is at 12 degress Leo. I just know that I felt so connected to this man and had to find out why.  Donna
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#120242 - 10/26/02 02:36 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Donna]
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Aries, yep, I probably do have that much in my memory bank, can't help myself. Yes, I feel the karmic ties, I have been reading about him, we echo each other in ideals, etc, I fight for the "little guy" in my line of work, nursing, and I fight for the nursing aids all the time. Sabra, ach, I know how frustrating it can be on the search engines, the first time I put "Paul Wellstone birthdata" and what I got was topics on partial abortion politics. So, I put the word birthday in and voila, it came right up. I guess search engines just can't read our minds.  Donna
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#120243 - 10/26/02 03:02 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Peggy]
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hi Peggy, I couldnt help but reply to your question about Lightworkers leaving. Of course we have free will...but there is also an ultimate "destiny" for mankind. I feel that destiny is about evolution.
Some people here,and other places,dont seem to see the significant "connections" when it comes to what prophecy, free will, destiny, etc, is about. I can forgive that, because so many of them havent truly undertaken the study to "see" it isnt about gloom and doom, (unless you are really scared of death and all the horrible things one may have done in their lifetime.) The bible definitely talked of good people being killed,etc for what they stood up for...and indeed we are coming even more into that period in time. But the message of the Christ was all about how to deal with it spiritually, when and if the time came.
I think the reason Im so "into" astrology is because of how the tool shows all the connections between mankind, between earth and the cosmos,etc...EVEN between good and evil.
For example,..mars enery with saturn or uranus tends to be explosive...we actually see earthquakes,volcanoes and wars erupt durying heavy influences of such. The ole.." as above,so below has almost a double entendre meaning at times. A double entendre in prophecy is basically 2 or more ways of looking at, or 2 meanings of a prophecy which all fit the said prophecy.
In the case of deaths, such as Wellstone, but maybe.. say one more like Chandra Levy, where her chart definitely showed the strong liklihood of foul play, and being tied up in an obssessive/compulsive relationship with an unavailable man...wouldnt it seem believable the forces of good(light) and evil(dark are working together? A chart almost showing death, along WITH that death being murder. And yet she MUST have picked this for herself,along with others aid.
Again, the message of the Christ being knowing righteousness and not being bogged down in the pits of hellish "FREE WILL choices, vs. glorious "kingdom within" FREE WILL choices.
I dont know if anyone has heard in the past of Billy Meier..but he is said to have had contact with the Pleiadians back in the 70s. Now, since I havent seen any of these aliens..yes,its really hard to imagine they exist..(although NOT on another dimension it isnt!). But I gotta say, the man has batted almost a thousand with his past prophecies. Probably the main one being the attack on the WTC, in which he said.."would see America invade many lands in the name of "peace" in the fight against terrorism." This,he spoke of back in the early 80s!. You cant hide from that. His prophecies for the future,given by these Pleidians are very bleak..but they run a direct parallel to biblical and others. He said these aliens told him WE CAN alter the outcome...with behaving better to our fellow man,etc..and that we will NOT have outside help from the aliens. Its up to us.
Sadly...we have already cut into many of these prophecies,which we COULD have prevented. This doesnt make the outcome sound too positive.
Anyway, the main idea,being its about connections, and just sticking with the "plan" of knowing what is right,vs. what is wrong, as there is truly a dark force out there fighting for this planet..that force can be as close as WITHIN if we allow it (and possibly without..but only we have the power to change within first!)
Yes,it may mean many Lightworkers leave..sad enough.
Donna, you might be one whos heard of Meier..the man who has the rights to his work was on Art Bell the other night..and since I know you have read some of the Sitchin material..you may be interested in this site...with the book of the same name..
www.andyettheyfly.com
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#120244 - 10/26/02 03:16 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Thanks Donna  . I used Google for this search also. I tried "Paul Wellstone birth" and then tried "Paul Wellstone birthplace" and other variations. All my results were partial abortion politics also. Didn't think to use the obvious: "birthday"  , lol. Wellstone is a rare surname also, so I didn't think it would have been to challenging of a search. Thanks for the tip  . Sabra
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#120245 - 10/26/02 09:40 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Sabra]
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Hey guys...GREAT show on this station right now,talking about Wellstone and will be talking about the sniper..this is the "other side" which you wont hear on other stations...You can download and listen NOW..(how the forces of the Free Masons, "Illuminati,anti-christ,big brother..etc come into all this) It will be on a while,not a short broadcast.
" the plane fell out of the sky because of ice..yea right!"
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#120246 - 10/26/02 10:40 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Hey guys...add me to the list of people who's first thought was 'it was no accident'..... My father was a pilot.....any plane that can carry that many passengers..not to mention the 'who's who ' of the list...would be completely updated with the latest in instruments....if the ice was that bad...they would have been re-routed. Thats not say ice can't take out an experienced pilot...it certainly can....but it's just odd in this day and age. Doplar made ice hard to miss......*sigh*.... He once ran a tv ad that was sped up...so he was talking real fast like a chipmonk...and he said he didn't have a lot of money for commercial time...so he'd have to talk fast......  thats my kind of sense of humor. This is certainly sad and troubling.... Richard Harris died too.....  Whaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dani
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#120247 - 10/27/02 01:19 AM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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"The devil's been busy in your backyard." That's the line from the song that was filling my "third ear" when I first read the news and was crying about it. My psychic stuff is pretty frequently third ear stuff, probably because I'm so verbal. My memory is auditory too. I can jot down a full-paragraph quote while the speaker's saying it and get it "righter" than most reporters. I get visual psychic stuff in dreams only. I don't "do" visions in waking time. But I get stuff in my hearing and I also receive stuff really physically in my body. Bodies are psychic vehicles. My Chiron thing says I need psychic protection. Hahaha, anybody know what that is? The people at the airport in the little town of Virginia, Minnesota, said there WASN'T freezing rain. "A little fog, but really nothing to speak of." I can hardly stand the irony of the FBI being in on the investigation of this plane crash, since Sen. Wellstone didn't believe the FBI's report on Father Kaiser's death. And he made a stink about it too. The devil's been busy in your backyard. That's George Harrison-Bob Dylan-Tom Petty-Roy Orbison-Jeff Lynn (Traveling Wilburys) stuff. It's about pesticides on the golf course, sorta. I get all goopy about the good dying young. The lightworkers. The martyrdom factor. To the point where it's almost like a damn law. And if you do good in a big way and escape the curse, you're really doing something. Saint Teresa of Liseaux (don't know if I spelled her right) said what Terri said. She said she was going to be working so much more effectively from the other side, pouring roses down on us from heaven. Hearts and flowers everyone. Maybe with all this newfound name recognition, and people of all political stripes all over TV saying what an amazingly good guy Wellstone was, maybe some people will start thinking it would be cool to be like that. The devil stays busy but so do we. Love you all. Dani, thanks for coming on. I know you're busy. Sometimes I need to get a little sappy. This sap's for you. 'Ria
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#120248 - 10/27/02 08:45 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Hi Maria, I didnt know we had so much in common,other than our sun signs decanates,etc! lol  I also have the 3rd eye/ear stuff happening as well as visions in dreams, so can really resonate with what you posted.. I totally understand the body thing...do you vibrate or get cold-type chills/shakes when you hear things you know arent right, or "dark",etc?.
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#120249 - 10/27/02 10:02 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Funny to think we're more alike than we knew.  You know I'm writing about the Pleiades for the newsletter??? But not with a lot of emphasis on the channeling and people who say that the beings speaking to/through them are from there...I'm mentioning it, but just in the context that the star cluster has been a focus point in many stories of nearly every culture throughout time that's existed on the face of the Earth. Kinda makes ya wonder though, eh? My body stuff is a little different maybe than you described. I get a really high level, relatively long lasting zinging vibration feeling over good stuff, stuff that raises my awareness or enhances my "reach" I guess I would say. The bad stuff thuds. Just deadens and aches and turns a mental image associated with the ache a sickly opaque green, something like this guy's color but more pearly. Now, don't tell anyone. Lol. Love,  Maria
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#120250 - 10/27/02 10:17 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: WriteOn]
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Maria and Aries,
Now that is very interesting. With the bad stuff, I know a lot of people use it as a figure of speech but sometimes I can actually feel the hair on the back of by neck "stand up". Either that or the hair on my arms stiffen up - honestly. Other times, I do get the chills and it various in intensity, but I don't get the shakes.
For the good stuff, it is not exactly the "zinging vibration" as Maria mentioned, but there is a feeling there. Hard for me to explain. It is almost like my body or brain is feeling "centered".
I don't know if it is related and I don't remember the details but I dreamt last night that there were more snipers. I hope not. Also, I usually watch a lot of news so my dream could be attributed to that, but I haven't watch that much news in the last couple of weeks. It was only about three times (and maybe about five minutes each time) that I listened or watched anything regarding the snipers.
Sabra
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#120251 - 10/27/02 10:29 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: Sabra]
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I don't get any of that...I get flashes of the 'moments' from the people.... I saw it from inside the cockpit...and I want to know about the co-pilot....I want to know why that plane banked so oddly to the left......not wobbly like a heart attack...very smooth...but deep. I also saw a passengers view out a north window....the sky did not look grey enough for ice..... There's only been time for brief moments of news in the last few days...but I DID hear today that the plane was equipped with de-icing capabilities that would have worked just fine....so I was right about that. But amazingly enough...it was just small enough in capacity to not require a black box...now what are the odds huh? The whole thing stinks. Mondale?....puhleese......so who's funding that? Is there any realm of possibility that this has not occurred to the fat cats on the hill?......  Dani
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#120252 - 10/27/02 11:31 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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In reply to:
"There's room at the top, they are telling you still, But first you must learn how to smile as you kill, If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon, "Working Classs Hero"
Who, me? I didn't say anything ...
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#120253 - 10/28/02 12:30 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
[Re: WriteOn]
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Okay...first of all don't anybody yell at me cuz I'm sitting here at the computer with pee nee monia, instead of resting...*sigh*...Actually, I am resting...I'm sitting in a very comfortable chair in front of the computer....
...but I did want to say....
When the news of the plane crash came over the TV, I confess to not knowing who Paul Wellstone was. But after hearing just a little about him and his background, I'm thinking to myself, oh gosh, this is my kind of man, and he's gone.....never letting it sink in that maybe it wasn't an "accident."....not saying that it wasn't *sigh*, but considering the world situation today, and all that's gone on and is going on....maybe he did go the way of John Kennedy Jr.....and not "accidentally." *shakes head in disgust and frustration*
Luv,
Rainbow
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#120254 - 11/02/02 12:23 AM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Maya gave a brief rundown of the senators chart...mixed with GW and the US....It's worth the read. .............."Paul’s death injected a huge dose of energy into the progressive movement. It was the day after the crash that hundreds of thousands of people marched for peace all over the world. I was with the great crowd in San Francisco which filled Market St. for miles, and there were many home-made signs for "Paul Wellstone" carried aloft throughout the crowd. Most of the speakers mentioned Paul, and his legacy of carrying the torch for social and economic justice—and now passing it on to us. He died at this time of year when the veil is thinnest, and I feel him very close to the progressive movement, picking up on this crucial moment in time. Perhaps as its soul, he is more effective working on the other side. Paul Wellstone was born on July 21, 1944 in Washington DC. His chart was dominated by Cancer Sun and Cancer planets, and Leo Moon and Leo planets. He was a quintessential Cancer-Leo, the man of the people, spreading sunshine to his audience. Someone said that the room lit up when he came into it. Leo likes its audience, and enjoys talking—witness Bill Clinton and Fidel Castro. In a death situation, the first things to look at are the Eclipses, especially those adjacent in time. Paul’s Juno at 28 Taurus almost exactly conjoined the coming November 19 Lunar Eclipse at 28 Taurus. Juno often indicates victimhood, and that exact conjunction would be enough to tell the story. But in addition, Paul’s Juno, and the Eclipse, are squared by the Transpluto-Uranus opposition which has been in effect all year, and will continue until Uranus enters Pisces in March 2003. This Taurus Lunar Eclipse completes a fixed grand cross centered on that opposition, and the pressure is on. Uranus stands for revolution, and Transpluto for resurrection. We’ve been seeing the resurrection of revolution all year, but now it is bottom-line, as this sky configuration squares the Taurus-Scorpio eclipse axis. Whose reform? That is again the question. Is Paul’s death a turning point in catalyzing the electorate to speak up, or is it a turning point because the last big obstacle to the Administration’s brand of reform is now gone? It’s up to us to make that choice. The degree of this Lunar Eclipse is very close to Algol, the Demon Star, often a very destructive influence. Algol means "The Ghoul"—very seasonable! Algol is a fairly bright star, and can be seen now in the eastern sky in the evening just a bit below Cassopiea. It is variable, with a three-day cycle. Check it out. But more. The Total Eclipse of the Sun on December 4 will be at 12 Sagittarius, exactly opposite Paul’s Uranus. Two exact eclipse hits. Paul was targeted by the universe 58 years ago for drastic change at this time. Uranus in Gemini enables one to think in a revolutionary manner, to be inventive, to act "cool," in touch with the latest "whatever." Independence, brilliance, and youth are matching qualities. The U.S. Uranus in Gemini is very close to Paul’s Uranus, and to the Solar Eclipse. Uranus is our individuality. Many people pass over to the other side as their 84-year Uranus cycle comes to a close. The chart connections are multiple. I will only mention that the preceding Full Moon in Aries of October 21 was assertive, accident-prone, and filled with Black Holes, those vortexes of transfiguration. The four planets in Libra at the Full Moon made various and multiple over and with transits to GW’s five bodies in Libra during the time between the Full Moon (which was on GW’s midheaven—his goals) and the crash four days later. These transits included all four asteroids—Juno, Pallas Athena, Vesta, and Ceres, along with Chiron, and Venus, Mars, and Mercury. Those were a very busy four days, especially for Libra energy. (But also for all the other cardinal signs—Cancer, Capricorn, and Aries.) Perhaps most telling was that Full Moon Mercury at 13 Libra, conjoined Black Hole Nemesis, and the U.S. Saturn. (Reread October 21 in the October issue.) During those four fateful days Mercury passed over GW’s Chiron, Moon, Juno, and Jupiter, and ended up trine his Uranus—carrying the Nemesis energy. Full Moon Mars, meanwhile, was at 4 Libra. It moved to 7 Libra by the crash, and it too had been very busy. At Full Moon it opposed GW’s Vesta in Aries, then squared the Full Moon Chiron in Capricorn, then squared GW’s Pallas in Capricorn, then conjoined GW’s Neptune—and by the crash Mars was exactly opposing Ceres in the sky. This is just the beginning, but we can already see that those four days were very active and aggressive for GW. A closer analysis of these charts is not feasible at this time. However, the interweaving of connections between these four charts—Paul’s, the Full Moon, the crash, and GW Bush could lead to a book. And the U.S chart should be included. Paul Wellsone’s death feels very much like a turning point for the progressive movement. Uranus in the sky turns direct now. There are many signs all over the world that revolution is in the air." November 2002 You can read the complete article...(this is only the last half) at her site. Published by Maya del Mar. Copyright © 2000–2002 Maya del Mar. All rights reserved. Dani
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#120255 - 11/02/02 12:26 AM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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Greg....why did numbers pop up where Mr. Wellstones name WAS? The same thing happened on the Michael Moore thread....... Dani
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#120256 - 11/02/02 06:08 PM
Re: The Death of a Profoundly Decent Man
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The numbers look like an HTML code for an apostrophe. It just stands for this: ' But these boards aren't set up to read HTML because it opens you up to hackers. (There will be a quiz  ) Thanks for posting that part of the article...there's those eclipses again!  Maria
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