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#123662 - 12/16/02 04:19 PM Re: The Crazy Part of People's Fear of a NWO [Re: Gregory]
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Ok, so this is a big joke..right Greg????

Of course Im not affiliated with anything like that..and its really too bad you have no clue as to what Im involved in real life with.
You'de BOTH be ashamed of yourselves if you knew me.
The largest prophecy group I belong to is made up of scientists, writers, physicists, seers, remote viewers,etc etc who are comprised of Germans, Native Indians, Taoists, those of Jewish Faith,etc,etc.. and who are white,red and black.
However, since many are war vets, and have seen a lot in various realms..I think its safe to say some are anti-government. They have their reasons.

For you to even ask suggests to me you have bought into this garbage coming from her.
Thats just plain sick. End of Story.

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#123663 - 12/16/02 05:08 PM Re: The Crazy Part of People's Fear of a NWO [Re: Aries]
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No it's not a big joke, Aries. I'm sorry you think that for me to ask "suggests" that I have "bought into" anything, or that I have anything to be ashamed for, because I haven't and I don't. What I'm trying to do here is to get this whole set of issues AWAY from "suggestion" and "supposition" to concrete facts, because my experience with countless squabbles on the net is that it is almost ALWAYS the case that these involve one or both parties assuming things about the other that aren't actually the case ... and when we go from "assuming" that "everybody knows" such and such, we often end up with different folks thinking they "know" very different things ... and when people are basing their feelings and reactions on different perceptions of reality, such disagreements can never be resolved.

I am not sure why Maria came to believe that you propounded such views, other than the fact that some of the people who do, say some of the things you do ... but if, for whatever reason, she DID believe that - and she said she did and I certainly believe her, otherwise what would she have been so upset about? - then that is indeed something to be very concerned about and is WELL worth setting straight, wouldn't you agree? And the very best way of doing that is for you to say in clear straightforward language that you do not hold any such beliefs or support any such agendas, so that is what I asked you to do. Thanks for accommodating.

Love,
Greg
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#123664 - 12/16/02 06:53 PM Re: The Crazy Part of People's Fear of a NWO [Re: Gregory]
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However, I may have been a racist or something in a past life considering the Sun is dead on my progressed Saturn TODAY...on the 11th/12 prog. cusp...
..guess I deserved whatever it was....

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#123665 - 12/17/02 12:20 AM Re: The Crazy Part of People's Fear of a NWO [Re: Aries]
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Greg....Maria....Bev.....







In my simplistic, uncomplicated mind...*sigh*...I think the conflict here is all just one big misunderstanding....

I'm praying for the continuation of our home...

Love you all,
Rainbow
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Let there be peace on earth We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. - Mattie Stepanek

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#123666 - 12/17/02 08:25 AM Re: The Crazy Part of People's Fear of a NWO [Re: Rainbow]
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Yes Rainbow, it is indeed a big misunderstanding. Lord help us to understand and transcend.

No Aries, you don't "deserve" anger in this life from anything that may have happened in a past one. We all deserve more compassion and understanding than has been happening here recently, and I pray most fervently that we can all find it ... and give it.

Love,
Greg
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#123667 - 12/17/02 10:46 AM Re: The Crazy Part of People's Fear of a NWO [Re: Gregory]
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Well Greg, If I'm going to have the belief system in which I know "everything we do comes back to you"..then I DO have to realize something karmic is at play here. I dont look at my own chart too often, but certainly had to after yesterday..and it was all there. Just as it was all there with some nice things which have been going on in my life recently.
I know I was involved with social change in a rebelious as well as religious/spiritual nature, and I also know who some of the people I was with in those times, as we've incarnated in soul groups this time around.

I take what I feel I deserve and I had to have done something drastic to Maria for this to keep occurying. Its all a part of the circle.

TO Maria,..
I can only say Im sorry Maria, for that, whatever it was..and Im sorry if you've misinterpreted something which was NOT directed towards you or the Catholic church. Its been pointed out to you by Lis on the other thread (London) that I was talking about the prophecies. And I was. I canNOT help it if I know certain things that are about to take place. It doesnt mean Im enjoying watching them happen..but I've had to learn how to put it all in perspective and accept what Im being shown on a daily base.
My desire is not to piss you off...but only to help inform.
I really and truly think you should take something to heart which Sabra and Lis said on the other thread..and thats we feel you may have some kind of power issues and paranoia to deal with. It seems cyclical with you, you're fine for a while, then you go off again. I truly feel for you if this is a woman thing..as Ive suffered with PMS in the past..and I now work with dozens of woman who are at the age where they are going thru that lovely "change". Please take that with a bit of humour, as you and I are close in age.

Im not trying to make you feel worse than I KNOW you already do...you have my empathy, as I know you're going through something.
Please do not leave on my account. I will try to keep in mind you are highly sensitive about certain issues, and maybe the same respect can be shown from your end.
I hold no resentment towards you, and Im full of foregiveness, but on the other hand, because so much seems cyclical, I think something may just flare up again months done the road, and perhaps this is a piece of your karma to deal with now. Please dont take that in a negative way. But I just cant "shut-up" about things occurying in this world, because you think I should, or because you feel Im directing something towards you personally, because Im here to say thats definitely not the case.
I hope you (and everyone else) are ok with this Maria.

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