Here are some other words and phrases for Chiron: Teacher, Guru, Mentor, Fosterparent, Turning Point, Now, Catalyst, Bridge, Link, Steppingstone, Passageway, Common Ground, Union of Opposites, Holistic, Personal Imperative, Pulling the Plug, Balance, Mediator, The Passage from Dependence to Independence, Turning the Corner, Therapy, a Koan [in Zen Buddhism], A Wound that will not Heal, a way to break free of a matrix, Synergism, Essence.

Where do you have your Chiron in?
I have it in my 7th house..
Sign Taurus..

So what do you think about Chiron in Relationship? what does mean if you have someone's Sun venus mars opposing your Chiron? and Your Moon Pluto asc opposing his?

I know that Chiron in 7th means.. I would have some MAJOR stuff going through in my relationships... they would be VERY painful (which is true)

Silkie
"The wound that never heals" .....sorry but that's rubbish and please don't believe it

Here's an excerpt for you.......

The house and sign position of Chiron show several things:

1. It is an indicator of where we have problems that tend to keep recurring, in one form or another, throughout our lives. Amateur astrologers frequently upset people by telling them something like, "Oh, this is where you're wounded and it will never go away!" It is important to remember that every indicator in the horoscope, including this one, has a positive (as well of a negative) side, and the first thing to remember when giving a reading is: Don't make things worse by scaring people to death! As with any other horoscope factor, Chiron has a positive as well as a negative side. For one thing, it shows where we may teach and help others. And, yes, Chiron problems can be dealt with and solved.

2. It shows where we can do things better for others than we can for ourselves.

3. Chiron shows where we can have an affinity for teaching, but, ironically, that is where we can teach others how to do things better than we can do them ourselves. This can be maddening if that happens to be an area in which we want to excel.

Here's the link to the site.....

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html

Chiron in the 7th house:
This one might spend all of their time taking care of a partner who has some debility. It is also someone who gives great advise on marriage, while their own marriage is on the rocks (or they might not even be married). This can work for business partnerships as well. You can take great care of a partner and teach them how to do the business better than you ever could. Watch out that they don't dump you as soon as they learn all that they can from you.

Chiron in Taurus:
Taurus is the sign of money and resources and it shows our ability to possess things. It also shows what we instinctively value, including ourselves. This is the sign that gives us our gut level sense of self-worth. Chiron here can give us a miser's urge to hold on to every penny while denying ourselves any of life's pleasures, or a rejection of "those low, materialistic values" and, consequently, a life of poverty. And guess what? Deep down inside, both are the same. They both deny themselves pleasure and enjoyment because they don't value themselves. Of course, as always with Chiron, there is the ability to give good advise to everyone else concerning their material needs and sense of self worth. People with Chiron in Taurus have to learn how to enjoy the basic physical pleasures of life. They won't be able to do this, however, until they deal with their damaged sense of self-worth.

Silkie, check out the link. Plus notice where it says "damaged sense of self-worth" in the Chiron in Taurus section.........I notice you've said a few times in your posts that you wish you where like your brother! I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your brother, I've never met or spoken to him, BUT what I am saying is you shouldn't wish to be more like anyone else. Just be you - that's what everyone likes you for Can you see how that relates to Chiron/Taurus?
Sue

Thank you Babyyy!!!
Yea I am VERY worried about Chiron,

thanks for that VERy informative post... I will Definitly go there..

So hows life? its been SOO long we haven't emailed eachother..!! How you been doing?

and I have sent you a Pm did you get it?
Take care sweety..
Love
Silky:)

Hi Sugar
Don't worry about Chiron - just work on feeling good about yourself and that will be great news and healing for Chiron in Taurus placement.

Hmmm, just checked my pm box but no message there maybe they take a while to get there? I'll check again later. Yes it's been too long since we chatted via email.
Sue

Just to let you know, I just checked my pm box again and your mail was there. I've sent you a reply.
Sue

CAT!!!

Hey lady!

Where've you been? Things are good, I hope?...

Just to chime in, I think that Chiron isn't entirely a bad thing. In fact, I think that it's very useful in relationships. If you have good Chiron aspects with someone, then they may understand your insecurities and help reassure you about them. If we all felt 100% confident and happy with ourselves, life would be boring. It's the mix that makes us want to be around other people. My best friend and I have pretty close Chiron placements so I think we understand each other. My Chiron is conj. his DC and falls in his 7th house. So, right there is a tight bond. Obviously he understands my pain and makes me feel better about myself.

My Chiron is at 26 Aries in my 12th house. So, I like to hide it. But, Cat is right. There's a beauty in teaching others how to get past their wounds.

Hi Silkie,

Cat is right, that is all rubbish about Chiron. Chiron is a very loving entity. I know that earlier astrologers took the myth of Chiron as being wounded to use that as it's most important quality. Not so!! Chiron is about love!! Truly, if you read his story, his wound was minor in comparison to his love for all humanity, his teaching and helping, giving, all in love.

I joined The Magi Society 4 years ago, and have been studying it. Their main premise is planetary geometry and they feel Chiron is most important, but not as the way most perceive it.

"The Magi Society has discovered that CHIRON IS THE KEY TO SOULMATES, MARRIAGE AND HAVING CHILDREN TOGETHER. Chiron is an asteroid/comet that orbits the Sun between Saturn and Uranus; it was discovered in 1977. Chiron is the key to all human relationships and is fully utilized in Magi Astrology.
Chiron has monumental importance for astrology because it is the "planet" that rules marriage, spouses, soulmates, and children born in marriage as well as karmic ties."

The above was a quote from their site---

http://www.magiastrology.com/

There are many well known astrologers who have joined the Magi and they incorporate their teaching with traditional astrology. It really works.

And, if one does want to take the wounded aspect into consideration, I take it one step further and say, Love Heals.

Well, that is my understanding of Chiron and I hope this has helped a little. Please take heart and know that Chiron will bless your love, not hurt it.

Donna

O.K. here comes Ms. Microscope. Sonudi, please go read your first post again. Notice that long string of keywords you posted. And I mean really notice them. What do you see?

Teacher, Guru, Mentor, Fosterparent, Turning Point, Now, Catalyst, Bridge, Link, Steppingstone, Passageway, Common Ground, Union of Opposites, Holistic, Personal Imperative, Pulling the Plug, Balance, Mediator, The Passage from Dependence to Independence, Turning the Corner, Therapy, a Koan [in Zen Buddhism], A Wound that will not Heal, a way to break free of a matrix, Synergism, Essence.

Did you notice the others now? What do you think they all suggest? Turning point, passage, way to break free, therapy, stepping stone, bridge, link, Catalyst (that one's my favourite)? Do you think they suggest that the wound will never heal? Or do they indicate the exact opposite?

I'm surprised that "the wound that never heals" should actually be part of a list of things that contradict it completely. It looks to me more like a compilation of keywords that have been attributed to Chiron by various people and not necessarily a statement that the person who made up that list agrees with any or all of them.

So what will you see? The glass is 3/4th full? Or the glass is 1/4 empty? (The latter is probably the illusion of looking through water anyway. )

Hello Silk_route,

Chiron is not a wound that will not heal. Chiron will show us how to heal those wounds. Chiron rules DNA and when you heal your wounds the karma in our DNA is tansmuted.

Chiron is the bridge between the right and left brain. Saturn being the left brain and Uranus the right. Chiron is bringing back the ancient healing arts used by Shamans.

Chiron can show us were our wounds are and it can show us that we are healers. Chiron opposite Uranus allows one to channel energy.
Chiron in the 7th house signifies a dynamic of knowing self through significant relationships on the personal level. Relationships good or bad will help you understand yourself.

Hope this helps with your question. I do have an affinity for Chiron as I see others do to.

Woody

Well, I must say that I hope you are all correct about Chiron NOT being a wound that will never heal, because if that were the case, I would never amount to anything in life. Chiron has always fascinated me ever since I first saw where it was in my natal chart, I think I'm supposed to be some sort of healer or something, I don't know, I'm still trying to figure that out. Let me explain, my Chiron is unaspected except for the following:

Chiron (Tau) Con (Tau) Midheaven - orb: a0:27'
Chiron (Tau) Con (Tau) Ceres - orb: s1:07'

That's it, nothing else... I did learn recently however, that anything conjunct the MC also has an effect on your 4th house, as it is opposing the 4th house cusp (Nadir)... and well let's just say I had some "wounds" to heal when I was much younger, I was silent for many years, but that is also due to other factors in my horoscope.

Thanks Guys..
It was REally Very helpful.. I really appreciate it..

actually the Chiron interpretation for me is SOO true.. that I am Always OVERTLY worried when a relationship is just BEGINNING.. that it just KILLS the sweetest moments..

So I was worried about my Chiron in 7th.. but its in Taurus.. so glad that it has given me patience.. in Love..

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Chiron in the 7th house signifies a dynamic of knowing self through significant relationships on the personal level. Relationships good or bad will help you understand yourself.

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Hmm..interesting, what you said, Woody! So would Chiron in the 7th in Taurus also indicate a tendency to base one's self-worth(Taurus) on what the other(7th house) thinks of you? So, the idea would be to learn what others can teach you about yourself but be careful as to avoid allowing other's opinions to influence how you feel about yourself?

I can see that tendency in myself and from what Sonia said about her brother's influence on her, I guess it's true for her too. Right, Sonudi?

Hello Everyone,
Eagle,
You are very good at explaining Chiron in 7th Taurus. Let relationships teach you but don't allow it to control you through opinions of your self worth.
I have Chiron conjunct Saturn both retrograde in the 4th house of Pisces. My Chiron aspects Jupiter, Mercury,Venus Pluto, Uranus, Neptune, Mars, North Node, South Node, and Part of Fortune. Chiron is busy in my chart.

Woody

Wow! That is one really active Chiron

Mine is somewhat like Blas'. Just an opp. to my sun(6 deg.) and a very loose one to uranus(9 deg.). And there are some minor aspects to my moon, saturn and MC. That's all. I'm not sure how an unaspected Chiron would function though.

But come to think of it, I have a retro Chiron too. What do you think that indicates? And is Chiron retro very often?

Hhey Tat is SOOOOOOOOO riggghht.. !!!! you Got it Sucheeey

hey Woody:) thats a Super Busy Chiron!!!

WOW..
Hmm well i hhave mine triningmy Sun and mercury..

Take care..

Hello All,

Eagle- This info comes from Barbra Hand Clow,
She says that retro planets are magnetic and draw energy into the chart. Chiro retrograde draws in healing, initiatory, and alchemical powers. The time dynamic refers to the fact that retorgrade planets tend to function in the past, present and future simultaneously. She also says that having chiron retro means you can/are worried about the future and the meaning of the destructive forces; they feel the essence of the present or savior; they search for the esoteric meaning of the past or creation. This is the tune they dance to...

Chiron does go retro fequently- perhaps once a year? However, Saturn conjunct Chiron occures every 147 years and both in my chart are retro.

Silk_route,
With Chiron trining Mercury: this aspect brings in powerful occult and healing skills. Barbara Hand Clow says these people are naturally in tune with the ancient times, and they remember the old healing skills whether they actualize them or not; these natives are wise old souls. With discipline you could make a great healer

Woody

Hello Cat,
I didn't want to forget about your great input about Chiron in the 7th house of Taurus too. I do enjoy talking about Chiron to others and listening to their thoughts and input.


Woody

Hmm...more things to ponder. Interesting dance tune. Thanks for the info, Woody.

Sounds like you have a really rare aspect.

Hi Guys

Wow, in a way I feel like I'm over on the Uranus thread, with having similar aspects with some of the people on the thread... in this case, a combo of Eagle, Blas & Woody...

I have Chiron cj my MC (by minutes), oppose my IC, Sun (4 degrees), Pl (2), and Ur/NN (7), there are other planets it aspects as well, and it is retrograde...

Hey

I never really paid a ton of attention to Chiron in my chart - though it's been on my list of things to look at for about two years now...

So I just checked it out - 6th house, 22 degrees Aries. Opposite Uranus, and widely conjucnt (8-degress) my Descendant, opposite my Ascendent. Also square to Saturn. And a quick look shows some interesting aspects to my husbands and son's charts. Chiron is EXACTLY conjucnt my son's Ascendent, so I'm going to definately have to give that one some thought....

Anyway, cool thread - just thought I'd jump in.

Love,
Terri

Mine's at 1 degree Pisces in the 7th house, opposing that 3-degree Virgo Pluto I mentioned on the Uranus into Pisces thread. So transitting Uranus is now conjunct my Chiron in addition to zeroing in on the exact opposition with Pluto. Another of those signs of the potential energy available for the phoenix to rise is how I see that one. Plus, the project that just kicked into higher gear is one with a partner (7th house).

There are a few of us here with Chiron in the 7th, I see. FWIW, Silkie & Suchi, my husband and I are still very happy we found each other.

Maria

Bizarro...

I ALSO have Chiron in the 7th, though mine is in Gemini. What's the deal with all us Chiron 7th housers? Anyway, here's my take on it. As of recently I've been looking a bit more into it when I can, because I had never really looked at it much before and then a few months ago I did, and realized that mine is much like Woodchiro's in that it has a huge number of aspects... It aspects my Sun, Venus, MC/IC, Asc/Des, Moon, Mars, Uranus, Jupiter, and Mercury. It touches ALMOST everything in my chart. It even squares my Sun exactly, and at the same time opposes my Jupiter exactly. All the other aspects are generally only a few degrees off, if even that.

In all honesty, I have considered Chrion to be the key to figuring out my chart, particularily since it aspects the most things. I was reading something one time, and I don't quite remember what it was now, but they pointed to the symbol of Chiron. Note that it does in fact, look similar to a KEY. It's got a loop on the bottom with lines at the top. Interesting indeed... Perhaps it's a key to something unknown within us all. Perhaps it's the key to unlocking our greater power. The power within us all to experience pain and then to heal and become stronger. Maybe it's even a key to unlocking the hearts of other people. That's just my thought spiraling on the matter though... However, do remember that it isn't all just about pain. If you think that, you are truly underestimating the power of both Chiron and of yourself.

*hugs* for all!!!
Carrie

Hello All,
Here is a little more info about Chiron.
When Chiron is in Aries: The warrior energy is most powerful manifestation for these natives. They need to be encouraged to systematically develop a discipline which will enable them to empower Chiron and get in touch with the potential power of the etheric plane.

Chiron opposite a planet brings in the full potential of both planets, but can bring in stress due to the energy involved.

I have more info but I gotta go for now.

Woody

lol. Maria, I never for a moment believed that Chiron in 7th will mean I'll end up as a single, old maid (no matter how much I say that because of other reasons ). I just think that perhaps this area of our lives is more challenging for us or perhaps has the most lessons for us. Thanks for the reassurance, anyway. It's always good to know that somebody is happy they found each other.

Yes, I read about the symbol looking like a key too. If there's a key, there must be a lock. If there's a lock, there must be a door. And if there's a door, there must be something behind it. So the key (Chiron) is your link to what lies beyond. Your passageway to the other side. And what lies on the other side need not be scary monsters. For all you know, there could be piles of candy in there or Santa Claus waiting to ask you what you want for Christmas. But, only if you've been a good child and swallowed your spinach (7th house lessons for us, perhaps)

Thanks for all the tidbits on Chiron, Woody. Waiting to see what more you'll throw into the mix

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If there's a key, there must be a lock. If there's a lock, there must be a door.

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Cool spiral you just sent me on EOTS! Chiron is located between Saturn and Uranus, isn't it? So Chiron is the key, Saturn is the lock and Uranus is the door? Maybe that's just too obvious...what do you guys think?

Love,
Terri