Ok everyone, Planet X is on its way so run for your liiiiiiiiives!!!..

Ok kidding, but the Great Debate with Nancy Lieder is on George Noorys "Coast To Coast tonight!"
This should be GOOD!
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Upcoming

Phil Plait badastronomy.com Nancy Lieder zetatalk.com -The Great Planet X Debate-
11pm-12am PST:
The Great Planet X Debate
Astronomer
Phil Plait
( www.badastronomy.com ) will debate alien contactee
Nancy Lieder ( www.zetatalk.com ) over whether a 'Planet X' will pass close enough to the Earth to cause a pole shift and spur many disasters in the next few weeks. Plait will then be the solo guest for the last two hours."
From www.coasttocoastam.com
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On @ 11:00 PM pst...check the site for stations near you, or to listen online live go to..

www.mojoradio.com OR

http://www.kfi640.com/main.html

Thanks for the reminder, Bev! My son Stephen did mention it to me today, but I sort of forgot it...*sigh*.....guess we can't hear it here, til 2 am.....

I am familiar with Phil Plait and his website, Bad Astronomy, and know he is a great debunker......but he is also a debunker of astrology, which doesn't give me much faith in his opinions......*sigh*....

By the same token, the Zetas, via Nancy ALSO don't put much store in astrology....which also leaves THEM suspect in my eyes....*sigh*....

.....nevertheless.....

.......I am keeping an eye on things...*sigh*....

Those nonstop tornadoes that hit us last week, were the worst we've ever had in history....ALL AT ONCE!.....and EXTREMELY WYRRD WEATHER is one of the signs that the planet is near....*sigh*....

The in a nutshell prediction, by Nancy for the next two weeks iz....

Between May 15, and June 1.....two very dramatic things are going to happen. (she doesn't give EXACT dates, but only says to expect them sometime during that two week period)...

First......the rotation of the earth will stop....leaving us in either constant daylight...constant darkness...constant twilight or constant dawn....depending on where we are on the earth at the time of stoppage.......

I understand that most of the U.S. will be in constant dawn (sun just below the horizon and not quite rising....like it's stuck there)...at least for a week......

The second dramatic thing to happen is the pole shift itself...caused by the magnetic pull of the closeness of Planet X which will be swooping down upon us...not quite to hit us...but to come close enough to cause tons of trouble...*sigh*.. floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, tidal waves, hurricanes, tornadoes....total chaos for the earth....

It sounds pretty horrible, and I don't like to think of anything like that...on the other hand, she does speak of safe places to go, and how to survive...providing we even want to survive....after all this....

She likens it to going back in time a hundred years....

Seventy five percent of me thinks NOTHING AT ALL WILL HAPPEN...and Nancy might just be off her rocker......*sigh*...but twenty five percent says...well, try and make some preperations.....just in case....

I'll be sure to listen tonight....thanks again, Bev....

Luv,
Rainbow

Nancy Lieder?

here ya go:

GET READY!!!

Hi Star Drifter!

I am currently reading your link.....it's most fascinating.

Do you think perhaps the zeta's picked May 15th because they knew of the eclipse?

I have a lot of rivers and ponds near me..and they are all still a normal color...but the weather changes certainly have happened...

hhhhmmmm...back to it.... thanks for the link!

Dani

Dani.....YOU'VE GOT MAIL!

Oh btw the shift is not predicted for the 15th......but it's after the 15th that things are supposed to start happening...*sigh*

Seeeee ya....

Luv,
Ginny

hmmm EOS, that was very interesting!

Dani, your post about the Zetas fits synchronistically with a post I made for a couple other forums so will post it here also...You may be on to something...
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For everyone freaked out about Planet X in May...please read.

May 15/16, depending on what part of the world you live in, know there is a lunar eclipse/full moon @ approx. 8:43 PM PST which may produce results of the moon turning a reddish,orangish, (ie: blood red hue).
..not to be confused with planet X incoming.

This was touched on last night on the great debate on Coast to Coast. Heres the excerpt from the site...
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"In the last half of the show Plait chatted with George and callers about various astronomical topics. He spoke about the upcoming total lunar eclipse which because of "dust and junk in the atmosphere," will likely turn the moon a strange red color. Because this is occurring on May 15th (the original date Lieder had given for Planet X)"

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Tonight, on Coast to Coast, a guest will touch on the topic of this eclipse.

RE:
"First Half-Hour: Radio/TV journalist Dr. Sky (drsky.com), will talk about the rare total lunar eclipse that will take place on Thursday, May 15th"
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And this, from todays Canadian Globe and Mail.

Watch for red Moon

By ANNE McILROY
From Wednesday's Globe and Mail


The moon could turn an eerie shade of red Thursday night during the first full lunar eclipse in three years.

The best views will be in Eastern Canada, if there are no clouds.

Lunar eclipses occur when the full moon moves into the shadow of the Earth, which blocks sunlight that would normally reflect off the moon's surface.

In North America, the moon will be totally eclipsed for 53 minutes and should turn red or orange.

Cathy McWatters of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada recommends that moon gazers in Ontario get out their binoculars by 10:10 p.m. EST and look low in the southeast sky. At around 11:40, the moon will take on a reddish hue.

The further east you are, the better, because the moon will be higher in the sky when the eclipse occurs. In Vancouver, conversely, the moon will be fully eclipsed when it rises.

The moon is a rocky body that does not generate its own light. During a lunar eclipse, indirect sunlight still manages to reach it. The blue-coloured light gets filtered out as it passes through the Earth's atmosphere, leaving red, orange or in some cases yellow light. Some refracted light also reaches the moon.

"Our Earth's shadow is always red, but we never see it," Ms. McWatters said. The red colour is the refracted light from all the sunrises and sunsets around the planet, she said.

From about 10:10 p.m. EST to 11:30 p.m., the moon will appear to be passing through its various phases, she said.

During an eclipse, observers using binoculars or telescopes can see stars that are close to the moon, she said. This is usually difficult because of the glare.

The lunar eclipse will not be visible if the sky is cloudy, but there will be another chance to see one in early November.

Unlike solar eclipses, it is safe to watch lunar eclipses without protective filters. It will be visible to the naked eye, but binoculars will make it easier to see the colour change."
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I had sent an email to someone I know whos in total survival mode and mentioned this to him, and he told me about a section in Immanuel Velikovkys book. I have the book, but havent read it yet. This is from the chapter called "The Red World". Im sure that tomorrow night MANY people out there are going to be confused to say the least!! (perhaps the way its meant to be??)

From page 64 of my copy..
..."In the middle of the second millennium before the present era the earth underwent one of the
greatest catastrophes in its history. A celestial body came very close to the earth. The account of this catastrophe can be reconstructed from evidence supplied by a large number of documents. The comet was on its way from its perihelion and touched the earth first with it's gaseous tail...Later in this book, I shall show that it was about this comet that Servius wrote, "It was not of a flaming but of a bloody redness." ("non igneo sed sanguineo rubore fuisse")

One of the first visible signs of this encounter was the redding of the earths surface by a fine dust of rusty pigment. In sea, lake and river, this pigment gave a bloody coloring to the water. Because of these particles of ferruginous or other soluble pigment,..the world turned red"

....hmmm, strange coincidences!

Part of the broadcast about Planet X is being re-run right now...9:20 PM PST
www.mojoradio.com Click on "listen live"

Hi Hon!!!

Actually the link Star Drifter provided has a calendar...I can't open them all at once anymore because my 'puter is having Merc fits....but some of the stuff...which should be pretty obvious...like boulders flying...and red dust and stuff is already supposed to be happening....with the actual pole shift and stopping of the rotation to be tomorrow.

I got onto a roll here...

Zeta vibrates to the number 8...which vibrates to Saturn

Planet X vibrates to the number 4...which vibrates to Uranus

Nancy Lieder is a 35...which is 8 and Saturn again.

Soho...I found this interesting...is a 22...and as a master number...cannot be reduced.

Norlok...which is one of the code words...also is a number 8

But I have to admit....I have been feeling dizzy and lightheaded since yesterday...as if I am close to losing my balance.

But I'd REALLY like to think it's this cold in my head!

I want to check that other sunspot link....then I'll catch your mail....I understand what you're thinking about it...but you have to put Mom first right now.

Tom can hang on...if everyone keeps communicating! (((HUG)))

Dani

HERE IS A PAGE FROM ZETA TALK.....

ZetaTalk: How to Identify
Note: written during the May 10, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

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ZetaTalk is a vast web site, and though well organized due to time constraints those recently learning of the coming changes are desperate to get a short list of what to expect and what to do. In the week or so leading up to rotation stoppage, what can be expected is a continuation of today, extreme weather, quakes in bursts globally, and a gradual slowing of rotation such that clocks never seem to be synched up anymore. Then the day or days before rotation stoppage will increase this slowdown such that minutes, then hours, then a total stop will occur. In other words, you will have but two days notice, and the first of those days doubtful as it will involve minutes, not seconds, and clocks being off already this will be a confused point. It is the day when the Sun sets hours later than expected that should be the trumpet in the skies, the flashing red light, the announcement you have been waiting for that now is the moment to drop all and rush to your safe location.

Up until rotation stops, the crust of the Earth is under stress but dealing with it as before, with increased quakes and weird weather and melting poles, but only a slight increase day to day in these matters. When rotation stops, the core is trying to turn, the crust locked in place by the approaching Planet X grip on the strong magnetized Atlantic Rift, and dramatic changes occur. The Earth moans, and the stretch along the Atlantic will snap bridges, tear electric and phone lines, and derail trains. This is where imploding buildings will occur, as the underlying infrastructure will move, collapsing the buildings overhead. In areas of compression, where mountain building is occurring or along the Pacific Rim, volcanic activity will greatly increase. A stopped rotation will affect the atmosphere, in that wind current will be more extreme, moving cold air primarily to warm places, which can result in more tornado activity in those areas affected. Likewise, ocean currents will move differently, cold water rushing more rapidly to those warm areas, and swirling. This will create more hurricane or typhoon type activity in those areas affected.

Given all this, the populace will be greatly distracted, and might miss the next sign to watch for, which is the dusting with red dust that turns rivers and lakes blood red and bitter. This dusting is followed by hail, and stronger quakes as at this point the shift is only days or hours away.
For those not able to see the sky, to gauge motion of the crust during the hour of the shift by a movement of the Sun or Moon or stars, they should at this point be in their trenches, virtually living there. Obviously, as the shift takes place over an hour, and it is the stop of the crust slide where the huge quakes occur, one can leave to relieve themselves or stretch, but certainly sleeping should be done in the trenches.
At the start of the shift, there is a strong clue that crust shift has started, and this is the uptick in wind. As the crust moves, the atmosphere resists, and this causes hurricane force winds globally. Where the wind was stronger than usual during rotation stoppage, this will be unique in that it will come from the direction the crust is moving. For North America, for instance, the crust will be moving NW, and the hurricane winds comes from that direction. To those confused about direction, take a globe, take our Scripted Drama steps so nicely diagrammed and linked from the Pole Shift section of ZetaTalk, and rotate the globe accordingly.
There will also be a jiggling in the Earth, a sense of motion, jerking, that will be consistent with crust movement during this hour of the shift.
The hurricane force winds persist for an hour or more after the shift, as the atmosphere adjusts. Except as a caution to watch for falling structures around you, broken glass, fearful animals that might attack if they feel they are blocked, there is no reason not to emerge from your trenches. It is over, and picking up the pieces and comforting the injured and devastated can start.

All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk.com

I like to think I'm not being an alarmest......but why do people buy health insurance???? It's one of those "just in case" things...You certainly don't buy it cuz you hope to get sick....but it's nice to have..."just in case"

A lot of people say this is all BS and pay no regard to it....and they may well be right (lord, I HOPE so!)....

....on the other hand....


..if it is true...there might be something we can do about it...before hand...*sigh*...

Yeah, I know I sound like chicken little.....but that's okay...I'd rather look like a fool and be wrong....than to look like a fool and then be right....(did I say that right? )

Luv,
Rainbow



"The sky is falling!"
"The sky is falling!"

(*sigh*)

Bev.........isn't there something in the Bible about the moon turning to blood???? eeeeeeeee

Luv,
Ginny

No, no, no, Dani......NOT tomorrow......SOMETIME BETWEEN TOMORROW AND JUNE FIRST.....

Rotation stoppage FIRST....

.....then shift....

............in that order......

...but sometime within that two week span....she does not give EXACT time...

.............for example.....rotation could stop on May 29, and pole shift on June 1.......

So tomorrow is not a for certain thing......according to Zeta Talk....

Luv,
Ginny

I was going by the link Star Drifter put up...

ya!!!! Dani

Rainbow, theres many a prophecy which mentions the moon turning to blood, or a red moon,etc. Theres a variety of events which can cause this effect.
~eclipses
~volcanic eruptions
~something nuclear
~planetary event such as Velikovsky talked about in the above.

Its not yet time for anything like that other then eclipses...a few more prophecies to go before any major shaking.. Thats where Lieder is deluded...she doesnt know the "signs".

Bev....ya know...hearing Nancy's voice....she sounds like a pleasant person....intelligent and sincere..........but for all our sakes....(and I'm sure you're certain of it).......I hope she's waaaaay WRONG!!!! *sigh*...

Luv,
Ginny

EARTHQUAKES: World Tremor Follows 7.0 & 6.7 Quakes in Pacific/Atlantic Oceans
Posted by queenvee on Wednesday, May 14 @ 09:22:56 PDT (225 reads)

As of the time of this posting, there is a worldwide tremor taking place, following a 7.0 earthquake in the Vanuata Islands region of the Pacific Rim yesterday (May 13), and a 6.7 earthquake in the North Atlantic Ocean today (May 14). The tremor can be viewed on the international seismoographs displayed on the USGS Live Internet Server

*sigh*



("I hope it's not falling"
"I hope it's not falling")

Luv,
Rainbow

yea Rainbow, I just got an email about the larger quake and how it may be related to some volcanic activity going on..

Ive heard Nancy twice now..I totally agree she has the most pleasant voice and seems so full of kindness.

She could be partly right in that this time period is the probable beginning of the tribulations. (but NO major catastrophe just yet...we will be into WW3 when some major shaking happens) Because of the national missile defense programme being so strongly debated and talked about now...the weapons of the future are UNIMAGINABLE this is like StarWars mode)..so time will tell what causes the shaking.

Rest easy for tomorrow we die.

Ok..kiddinggggggg.

* S I G H *

Know something Rainbow? I never buy insurance - whether life insurance or health insurance. Because IMHO the very idea of having insurance is something like having a pre-nuptial divorce agreement. A non sequitor of sorts.

Forget Planet X buddy. Nothing is going to happen

Ani....you've got a good head on your shoulders.....you too Bev...you're two great ladies.....

I 'ppreciate your wise input....*sigh*

Gotta remember tho, that Saturn is my ruler.........and he tends to be a gloomy guy, sometimes...

....put that together with the PISCEAN IMAGINATION given an extra INTENSIVE shove by MARS IN SCORPIO RISING...an ya got me...eeeeee

Love you both,
Ginny

(tsk, tsk, tsk....excuses, excuses)

I S * T H I S * I T ? *

According to Nancy Lieder, time is running
out......

.......she sez that on May 21, the earth is going to STOP ROTATING!

................and on the May 27, THE POLES WILL SHIFT causing cataclysms......*sigh*.....

SHE'D BETTER BE WRONG! ! ! !

Luv,
Rainbow

Hmmm???

Pole shift you say? You know, I wish I still had my astrology book. The earth naturally shifts poles every several hundred thousand years or so. According to the dynamo theory, if the world were to actually stop rotating, we wouldn't HAVE a magnetic field anymore. A rotating molten core is what causes the dynamo effect which is what gives us our magnetic field and the Van Allen belts that basically protect the earth from the charged particles from space. If the earth were to stop rotating and the dynamo effect stopped, there would be no magnetic poles to shift in the first place. PLUS, if there is such a thing as this mysterious "Planet X" that she is trying to lend credence to, we would have seen it coming A LOOOONG time ago. Sorry, but planet sized objects don't exactly pop out of nowhere...

Seriously Rainbow... Don't worry about it. Instead, check out these sites:

Magnetic Field Reversals
Van Allen Belts and the Earth's Magnetic Field

*hugs* for all!!!
Carrie

Nancy sez.....

SUN WILL SET TWO HOURS LATER THAN USUAL TONIGHT.....

TOMORROW ROTATION WILL STOP.....

Crazy lady? Or emissary of the Zetas?

..............we'll soon know....

Luv,
Rainbow

hahaha
Well they might in peoples dreams enchantress! lol

Well Rainbow, hopefully we survive the "fall" eh?

Poor Nancy..too bad we dont have her birth data..probably neptune squares all over the place..
She sounded sooooo convincing aye?

McCanney makes more sense with his "comet" theory.