Linda Goodman Forums at ConsciousEvolution.com
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#134217 - 05/26/03 09:53 AM Wonderful World of Words
Chahldean Offline

Veteran

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 1273
Loc: Everywhere I've Ever Been.
Halo KnowFlakes...revisitng many old Threads for interest and information, I stumbled on some good ones that seemed to have sparked Knowledge in the Site that was usefull..I began to Wonder if again we could dissect knowledge with our vast plethera of KnowBe's out there and start formulating the New School for the New Age....without secularism, biasedness and preachy pontification.
My thought was it would be Free Form and Flowing...with each and every One participating in some small Way, contributing to the content to purrhaps re-Solve Mysteries and unlock Doors.
I Believe Words and Numbers alone have that Power. The Symbols our Minds and Mouths have interpreted throughout Time have become a language that we accept without even thinking about them. But the Words themselves, like coded blueprints, have profound answers contained within them that may have and have been overlooked by the Profane. Compiled with Semantics and Rhetoric, we now hear Words spoken and are coerced to Believe a designed intention rather than the basic formulation of their purepose.

I guess in Light of the Day, to start with, I will choose

MEMORIAL - or the root "Memory".

I believe it is a good word for many reasons and warrants many possibilities for discussion....anyone Game?



Chahlie
_________________________
Be Cool.
Stay Loose.
Gnosis Thy Self.
Love One and Other
All Will Be Well.






Top
#134218 - 05/26/03 11:16 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
Ani * Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 04/09/01
Posts: 2070
Loc: India
hello chahles

to begin with, I have always been slightly sceptical about lexigramming as LG put it forth because I feel that the spelling of a word is not that important (for lexigramming). My theory (theory, eh? ), well my theory is that lexigrams have to follow the phonetics of a word rather than how it is spelt.

so, even though memorial has no E in it, I think it stands for memo (as in reminder) and real (as in that which is not untrue)

just my thoughts............

Now, thoughts for example, could be lexigrammed with the phonetic th , au , t and s . the vowels can be added to these consonants to make meaningful words.

just my new theory

_________________________
Ani
http://alfaazi.blogspot.in/

Top
#134219 - 05/26/03 01:10 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Ani *]
Chahldean Offline

Veteran

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 1273
Loc: Everywhere I've Ever Been.
Hi Ani...and how art thou?

Hmmm. I like your thinking...due to the fact that Words are direct decents from Sounds. And there are many Languages that have evolved from the first grunt and hum of early Humans, all based on Glyphs or letters to describe a sound. Hidden words within Words add to the Spiral of the true intent-ion and meaning I suppose. Spelling is important only when Numerology is considered, as each letter has a vibration, changing the esoteric meaning of the Word considerably. But that aside, I believe you are right. The feelings conjured by the sounds of the words themselves hold deep internal meaning to us subconsciously. Memorial , as I have started here with, is derived certainly in Memo(re-Mind) and rial (real) as you described....real re-Mind! Interesting, as memories are subjective and personal to the actual occasion! Real ReMinding more of Me. Re-Membrance through real More of Me. I like that...I like the Theory Ani. Very in-Sightfull....
_________________________
Be Cool.
Stay Loose.
Gnosis Thy Self.
Love One and Other
All Will Be Well.






Top
#134220 - 05/26/03 09:13 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
EagleOverTheSea Offline
Archangel

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 4266
hmm...slightly, off topic here. But, I've always wondered why Linda said only English could be lexigrammed. If Ani's theory is true then English would be one of the more unsuitable languages for lexigramming. Wouldn't a phonetic language be more suitable? Not trying to blow up any theories, but just plain curious about Linda's reasoning behind her claim. I don't remember if she explained it in Star Signs. If she did, it must have been rather vague IMO, because it didn't "stick". Anybody have any ideas?
_________________________
Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.

- Some unknown soul who realises the need for balance wink

Top
#134221 - 05/27/03 01:31 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: EagleOverTheSea]
Gregory Offline

Archangel

Registered: 02/20/99
Posts: 6619
Loc: North Bend, WA USA
Suchi here's a part of Linda's explanation about the connection between the English language and the word druids of Lexigramming (from Chapter 8 of Linda Goodman's Star Signs):
Quote:

Although the following rightfully belongs in a later book, this particular "twelfth night secret" must be mentioned here in general, not in detail, as a foundation for the mighty power of words. I won't make any attempt to defend it in these pages, nor to offer the source of the revelation. Therefore, many of you may at first tend to disagree. But whatever your initial response, try to accept the premise that English -- yes, English -- was the first language spoken upon this Earth -- and on all other Earths, in all solar systems and Universes.

Humans tend to insist that anything of vast antiquity must be strange, complex and "foreign." On those rare occasions when Earthlings think at all about the language spoken "in the beginning," when Eveallegedly said to Adam, "Have a bite of this delicious apple, darling," it's usually imaged (by Americans) as some long-forgotten form of ancient Hebrew, Eskimo or gobbledygook-anything, as long as it's weird and not familiar.

Linking antiquity and the familiar is taboo, one of those rules accepted as having been engraved in stone, like the Ten Commandments, one of those rules that merely wisps of custom, having no relationship to reality. Yet each such unfoundedrule continues tolure humans into accepting it as "gospel truth." That's to be expected, I suppose, since the word RULE hides the word LURE. Rule is lure, and lure is rule.Quite!as Guru Nahtan would say, in his wontedquiet way. Naturally, since QUITE is also QUIET, through a quick switch of letters.

The reason it's such a shock to people to conceive that English was the original language spoken in the Eden -- Heaven now called Earth is that it's difficult for them to recall any memories of Eden and Eve in a time so many eons before the Tower of Babel, although they should be able to evoke memories of Eve in the garden, since EVOKE contains EVE.

The symbolic building of the Tower of Babel describes the wanton destruction of primordial English, which originally vibrated so purely to the Music of the Spheres that it fell as gently on the ethers and human ears as singing . . . or chanting. To speak in those original tones and rhythms was truly to sing! Well, what do you know! ENGLISH contains SING.Quite. English, however, lost its musical, harmonious purity after Adam began to tell HIS LIES, two words also hiding in ENGLISH. Note that it does not containher lies, for a reason related in a forthcoming work. It's interesting that to RELATE something means to tell what is REAL --LATER, after it has occurred. RELATE tells you all this.It defines itself. It's easy to get lost in thought and revelation when you're tuned into Lexigrams. Where was I?

As that future book will relate, many lies were seeded by Adam, after he became MAD, the word being prophetically hidden within his name, ADAM --and that's the truth, even if it offends and hurts the mistaken images promoted by the patriarch-minded. All truth hurts to some degree, since it digs out falsehoods by the roots, sometimes as painful an experience as a trip to the dentist for root canal work, as truth itself warns, since HURT is found there, hiding-in-plain-sight in TRUTH. Adam's lies, and the reason for his madness will explain why Earthlings can never become fully EVOLVED concerning the matter of their origin until they learn to LOVE EVE, and stop believing that she initiated the original temptation, as the word EVOLVE has been telling us, in Lexigram, for such a long, weary time. This is not some manufactured promotion for Women's Liberation, but a long buried truth even ERA supporters have thus far not listed to with the inner EAR.

After the Fall, English remained, but in a much less pure form of pattern and tone, and was no longer "sung" or chanted (remember incantations?) in its original rhythms and vibrating notes, until the symbolic building of the Tower of Babel, at which time it disappeared entirely into the mass subconscious, remaining dormant until, by Divine Will, it was slowly and gradually resurrected in the Celtic region of Earth. It's part of the great mystery of English that NOTE is TONE, and vice versa, because MUSIC was once the SUM total ofall that was. The word MUSIC itself tells you that, does it not? ...

Following the Tower of Babel language cataclysm (which very nearly contains "asylum," except for the u, so perhaps it should be spelled "catuclysm"-- we still have to watch for distortion of spelling) -- following this murder of the musicof English, a major cosmic event of vast importance to Earth and Earthlings transpired.

Because the destruction of the rhyme, rhythms and musical tones of primordial English inflicted such severe damage to universal synchronicity, short circuiting as it did the former harmonious communication between Earthlings, our Creators divinely manifested the wee nature spirits, called druids by the Celtic people, with a lower-case d, who were and still are quite real entities-- also shy and quiet.

Remember . . . in the Beginning, our Creators spoke certain sounds which produced differing sets of vibrational frequencies in the ethers.Some of these were of such low frequency that they formed particles of what we call matter or physical substance.

In this manner were the tiny word druids created...

The nature spirit druids were charged with the sacred mission of hiding and protecting the Anglo-Saxon alphabet until the preordained time for it to be resurrected and gradually reseeded into the mass collective subconscious of humans.


There's more in the chapter, but that's the gist of it!

'Course, as Linda herself often said, no one should take anything she says to be "the Truth" on her authority ... but it's certainly one truth expressed in beautifully poetic and magical terms!

Love,
Greg
_________________________
LOVE alone is eternal and unconquerable.

Top
#134222 - 05/27/03 08:38 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Gregory]
Ani * Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 04/09/01
Posts: 2070
Loc: India
But then, we dont have any way of knowing what this primordial english (i.e. before Babel) was.

For example, geoffrey chaucer would have spelt fairy as faerie.

and pneumonia wouldnt perhaps have had a P.

And would there have been a word like "aquarian"?



I still think that the sound of a word is more important than how it is spelt in current-day english.

_________________________
Ani
http://alfaazi.blogspot.in/

Top
#134223 - 05/27/03 10:09 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Ani *]
Gregory Offline

Archangel

Registered: 02/20/99
Posts: 6619
Loc: North Bend, WA USA
Or gigabyte?

I know, Ani ... it is more logical that the vibrational meaning of a word would be connected with its sound rather than its spelling. And Linda agreed with this, which is why in her numerological studies she used the Chaldean system, which translates the letters to numerical values according to the equivalent sound in the ancient Chaldean alphabet, rather than the newer Pythagorean system which simply assigns numbers to letters according to their position in the modern alphabet!

Whatever her source, she believed that with Lexigrams there are literal Nature Spirits (word druids) who have assumed the responsibility of retaining the original primordial meanings of words as they evolved and changed spellings. As she describes this -
Quote:

When this occurred the Anglo-Saxon alphabet began to take a wrong fork in the road, as it were, twisting itself into several new languages, such as Latin, Greek, German, French, Italian and so forth. It took a while for the basic essence of English speech to return to human consciousness, first incarnating itself into a form called "Olde English."

It was at this point of a pretzel twist in the English language that the druids, who possessed (and still do) magic powers bestowed upon them by their -- and our -- Creators, multiplied or "cloned" themselves in a kind of desperate spiritual and mystical attempt to keep matters under control. To accomplish this, theymattered themselves, superimposing themselves on each word, to protect each word from oblivion, while simultaneously causing it to gradually assume its former shape andsound.

The druids took over their mission of "mattering" themselves, cloning themselves and superimposing themselves over individual words in the Celtic regions where "Olde English" began toreappear: England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. After a short time the little nature spirit words became so hypnotized by and enmeshed within this mission (much as did our own Spirits when they created flesh bodies: See Chapter 9) that it became somewhat of a fun game to them. Losing their perspective, from time to time, like mischievous small children, they began to spring little unexpected mini-pranks on humans who "used" them -- spoke them. When the druids were spoken (as words) they proceeded to create an action, to materialize, so to speak, the meaning of the "word spoken," as Earthlings tossed the little nature spirits into the ethers as sounds. Perhaps, who knows, they may have felt that this was an added benefit to humans, helping them to learn the power of the words they spoke, thus gently leading them back into recalling the primordial purity of the English language.

Now do you understand why it is that the people of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland all have their legends and stories of -- their firm belief in-- the wee folk, druids, elves, faeries, leprechauns and the like? ...

Truly, I am not jesting, trying to be amusing -- or telling you faerie stories -- although these true stories are, admittedly, about faeries, nature spirits or sprites and wee folk.


Of course Linda was well aware of the logical implausibility of her "faerie stories" about the English language, which is why she acknowledged "I won't make any attempt to defend it in these pages, nor to offer the source of the revelation. Therefore, many of you may at first tend to disagree."

Love,
Greg

_________________________
LOVE alone is eternal and unconquerable.

Top
#134224 - 05/27/03 12:02 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Gregory]
Ani * Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 04/09/01
Posts: 2070
Loc: India
hmmmmm (pondering)

as far as I know, the oldest indo-european language is lithuanian. so, yes, I think I will disagree

anyways, back to M E M O R I A L. some words that immediately look back at me are:
    memo
    liar
    rome
    lame
    elm (done in 15 seconds, hence the usage of "immediate")




_________________________
Ani
http://alfaazi.blogspot.in/

Top
#134225 - 05/27/03 12:35 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Gregory]
moonflower Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2026
Loc: South of the Thumb, MI, USA
Hi Guys

Interesting thread, Chahlie.

When I hear the word MEMORIAL for some reason I think of it in the terms of a tribute. Not just a remembering or recalling someone or something but also giving honor to the memory. It's like a special memory. Which might be the reason we say, "Oh, I remember that," instead of saying, "Oh, I memorialize that."

To me there is not only the word but the context in which the word is used. Because a word can have more than one use or one meaning. Even words that are spelled the same in the English language have different meanings depending on the context in which it it is used. That is why the English language is so very hard to learn for immigrants. I used to teach ESL (English Second Language) for a literacy program as a volunteer and that is one of the things that made it so hard for those trying to learn English. One of the most asked questions is "why do you have the same spelling for words that mean different things?" Good question. Maybe it was the "wee people" and their pranks which Linda spoke about in her book.

Thinking of the word MEMORIAL as a tribute or recalling someone or some event with honor is no surprise since the word LORE is contained in MEMORIAL. Lore means traditional knowledge or belief and before the written word that is how people remembered or recalled people and events. They passed it on orally through stories from one generation to the next. So we say LORE when we are talking about events or things that have been passed on by the word of mouth.

The word ORAL is also contained in MEMORIAL. So to me, the word MEMORIAL means ORAL LORE. Also the words RIME ( which is another way of spelling RHYME) and MIME are contained in MEMORIAL. Rime is what poets do when telling a story or describing someone or something in a flowing way and MIME is a way of communicating the written word and telling a story without speaking. It all goes back to ORAL LORE. And the word LORE conjures up some event or someone special as well.

Love, Connie

_________________________
We cannot heal another person as healing comes from within. We can stimulate the radiance of others by being a light ourselves. - unknown author

Top
#134226 - 05/27/03 04:50 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: moonflower]
moonflower Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2026
Loc: South of the Thumb, MI, USA
It occurred to me on afterthought that the word MORAL is also contained within the word MEMORIAL. That's one of those words that are the same, pronounced and spelled the same, but have two meanings. It pertains to principles of right and wrong and conduct, and it also pertains to the practical meaning of a story.

What that has to do with MEMORIAL I have no idea. MORE and MAIL is contained within MEMORIAL too. Remember me. Send MORE MAIL. Okay, so it's raining outside and I'm getting silly now.

Love, Connie
_________________________
We cannot heal another person as healing comes from within. We can stimulate the radiance of others by being a light ourselves. - unknown author

Top
#134227 - 05/27/03 10:48 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: moonflower]
EagleOverTheSea Offline
Archangel

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 4266
Hmm...Yes, it is a little hard to accept just like that, though I wouldn't rule out the possibility that she could be right. I remembered it had something to do with druids but not that it was the oldest language in the world. Strange. The druid part must have seemed more acceptable to my mind than the possibility about it being the oldest language. lol. Or maybe it's just my love of the fantastic!

Hmm..let's assume she is right about it all. So, where does that leave us and the present form of English? Are we moving away from the pure form pre-Fall to something that is nowhere near it? Or did we finish with corrupting the language as much as we could and now the druids are leading us slowly back to the original? If so, they'd better do something about the unscientific spellings Peeneemonia, indeed!

The incantation and musical quality and singing the language kind of reminds me of Sankrit hymns which were always sung in a particular rhythm. I'm not so familiar with all the technical words related to music, so I'm not sure, if rhythm is the right word to use. But, I couldn't think of a better word to describe it. Anyways, coming back to Sanskrit, it is a phonetic language. What you see, is what you hear. So, I'm wondering if English in it's pure form was something similar. More phonetic and more musical. Was it perhaps so different that we probably wouldn't recognise it as the same language today? Could it have left remnants in other languages too? Bits and pieces, here and there?

And if we are going back to the purer form, which avatar of present-day English is the one to follow? There are so many forms of English in different parts of the world. And so many variations within each. The formal and the slang. Which is purer? Which evolution of the language vibrates with forgotten memories of the original and which are just another layer of corruption? How do we differentiate? Are our standards of "formal=pure, slang=impure" really accurate? Is there really a frame of reference we can fall back on? And lastly, am I making any sense?

Connie, I agree with the way you feel about Memorial. I think that is how it is meant to be. Memorial has a feeling of giving tribute or honouring.

MORAL - practical meaning to a story. The gist of it all. The point being conveyed by the story.

MEMORIAL - Remembering an event or a person. Why? For some specific reason. Some importance they hold for us. Some value. Some point. Why do we have LOREs about them? Because there was a point to their life or the event? Something that has significance for us as a people too? The point of recounting their stories/the LOREs is to remind us of that point - that MORAL of the story? It could be anything from standing up for one's principals, achieving freedom from tyranny or just simply speaking the truth. What lessons do their MEMORIES have for us? What MORAL to the story?

Is that the connection you are looking for Connie?

Greg, thank you so much for taking the trouble to type all that out.
_________________________
Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.

- Some unknown soul who realises the need for balance wink

Top
#134228 - 05/28/03 10:18 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: EagleOverTheSea]
Gregory Offline

Archangel

Registered: 02/20/99
Posts: 6619
Loc: North Bend, WA USA
My pleasure, Suchi! (Actually I didn't have to type it all out - I still had it stored in electronic form from the old LG site )

For the record, I wouldn't accept this explanation as "fact" either ... especially presented without source or historical support as it is. I just wanted to answer your question of why Linda said Lexi's apply only to English. However, that doesn't mean it's without value. Truth to tell, I don't assume ANY of the stories about the origins of esoteric wisdom to be factual, including the various legends of Atlantis, the secrets of the Great Pyramid, the extraterrestrial origin of the ancient "gods" and so on ... although some of these legends have more to support them than others, and there is likely some truth in all of them, even when they conflict with each other and with academic knowledge. Knowledge of this type is at a very deep archetypal level that surpasses our ability to validate it empirically, and much of it may relate to a level of reality that is not entirely graspable in linear "factual" terms anyway. But if such mythical stories give us an angle to understand hidden wisdom in an insightful way, then I think it's useful whether literally true or not.

Many if not most of the stories in the world's various religious scriptures fall into this category as well, which is why I think we miss the boat if we worry about their historical veracity rather than the wisdom they contain. In this case, the idea that there are intelligent nature-spirit "word druids" embodied in the words themselves to ensure that hidden meanings persist even as external language grows and changes, makes a lot of sense to me. (The assertion that it applies "only" to the English language is really irrelevant to me personally, since I don't know any other languages well enough to be able to ferret out subtleties from them ... but if I did, I'd sure look for them! )

Lovely insights into MEMORIAL!

Love,
Greg
_________________________
LOVE alone is eternal and unconquerable.

Top
#134229 - 05/28/03 10:54 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: EagleOverTheSea]
moonflower Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2026
Loc: South of the Thumb, MI, USA
Very good connection, EOS and it does make a lot of sense when you think about MEMORIAL as a special way of honoring a memory. There can be no greater tribute to the life of a person than expressing what we have learned from them or how that person touched our lives and made us a better person just because he/she existed.

That is definitely the connection I was looking for.

Love, Connie
_________________________
We cannot heal another person as healing comes from within. We can stimulate the radiance of others by being a light ourselves. - unknown author

Top
#134230 - 05/28/03 11:12 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Gregory]
EagleOverTheSea Offline
Archangel

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 4266
Thank you, Greg and Connie

Ah! Just copy/paste, huh? I just spotted some typos and thought perhaps you'd typed in all in a hurry, Greg.

I agree with what you said about legends and religious stories and everything else of that kind.
Quote:

Many if not most of the stories in the world's various religious scriptures fall into this category as well, which is why I think we miss the boat if we worry about their historical veracity rather than the wisdom they contain.


Exactly!
_________________________
Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.

- Some unknown soul who realises the need for balance wink

Top
#134231 - 05/31/03 07:48 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: EagleOverTheSea]
Chahldean Offline

Veteran

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 1273
Loc: Everywhere I've Ever Been.
WordPlay is WonderFull.
Makes your Mouth and Mind harmonize....syncronize....hypnotize.

What a Memorial for Memorial!
Memorizing Memories of Oral Lore;
reMembering More of Me.

I declare! Indeed such a Way we perceive a Word.....
how Our Mind's think and form-U-late Perception.
The Word Memorial is often associated with Solemnity; as if the Past were Passed, and it's remembrance, vowed Vigilance.

In attempts to retain an Occurance, an Expeer-ience, a Special Moment, Person or LifeTime...we "take" Time and "make" Time to honor the Memory. Often needing to re-Member, Human Beings live in a State of Memorium, revering that which our Lives have come to Witness as our Truth. And yet, still only a Perception......


The cocentric magnifying glass Eye ultimately looking in a Mirror.


To memorialize anything though, One must have Solemn Respect for It.... A Great Intent to preserve it's Integrity....and a ceremony to acknowledge it's undertaking. OtherWise, it is mere Remembrance and Oral Folk Lore of a Time gone by..... in Loving Memory.

I agree with the Majority here that agrees with the Use of Words and their meanings... the usage, being just as important as the origin of a Word, has created connotations in our Minds far beyond it's actual "meaning"...and causes our re-Minds to gravitate to it's intent-ion.
Let's try another one on for Size shall We?

Citizenship.







_________________________
Be Cool.
Stay Loose.
Gnosis Thy Self.
Love One and Other
All Will Be Well.






Top
#134232 - 05/31/03 09:57 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
EagleOverTheSea Offline
Archangel

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 4266
An elite club Another way to seperate the Us from the Them?
_________________________
Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.

- Some unknown soul who realises the need for balance wink

Top
#134233 - 06/01/03 09:55 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
lightwave Offline
Old hand

Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 751
Greeting All,

CITIZENSHIP,eh. This one evoked a visual interpretation!
It looks like a group of "belongers" travelling along
on the "same" journey...
But, is the ship on the water, or is it docked?
That is the Question!

Lightwave
_________________________
It's all about the dance...

Top
#134234 - 06/01/03 11:06 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: lightwave]
moonflower Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2026
Loc: South of the Thumb, MI, USA
Good Morning Knowflakes

In reading your's and EOS's reply, Rena, I had to smile because the first thing that popped into my head concerning the word CITZENSHIP is belonging. I spiraled on what you guys said. Yes, I agree it can be another way we humans have of promoting an US and THEM kind of mentality. All those -ship words can do that if we think about it. They all make us a part of some group. A clique. They are all kind of "Clique-words."

For some reason this word CITIZENSHIP made me more aware of how many words we attach the suffix -SHIP to. And it all seems to be a way of saying we belong, we are part of a group or clique. It is kind of possessive, as all human love tends to be. Some of the "Clique" words that I thought of are listed here but I bet there are many more:

OWNERSHIP
FRIENDSHIP
KINSHIP
MEMBERSHIP
CITIZENSHIP
RELATIONSHIP

The words here all seem to imply that "I belong." CITIZENSHIP implies that I belong to a group from a particular country, state, city, county, township, tribe and on the whole larger scale, I belong or am a CITZEN of the world ( the planet Earth ). Even more to the point, I belong or am part of the group called human beings. If we look at our CITIZENSHIP on the largest scale of belonging to the human race and as a CITIZEN of the world then it takes away the US and THEM of it all and makes it just US; all of US struggling together and pulling together for each other.

In thinking about groups or cliques I conjured up the image of nature and how it is part of nature that "birds of a feather flock together." We see that in all of nature. You never see lower forms of animals hanging out with animals of another species. Not in the wild anyway. But it's an odd thing that if you put different species of animals in a home environment together you find that they tend to develop an affinity for each other. Whereas in the wild they would kill each other, living together in a home environment they become good buddies. I find that amazing. I have at one time, due to my kids and their love of animals, had living in my home two dogs, two cats, a guinea pig and fish. One of my dogs used to go up to the cat and rub him in greeting as if he were also a cat, and the cat liked it! The cat slept on Lisa's bed, right next to the large fish aquarium where Lisa kept her guinea pig, Alfie. There was no top on the tank and yet the cat never bothered the guinea pig. The squeaking sounds that Alfie made never even disturbed the cats sleep. Yet one day the cat brought home from the woods a dead guinea pig that either escaped or was turned loose in the woods next to our house. Our cat had killed that guinea pig that he encountered in the wild, yet never even attempted to harm Alfie who he shared Lisa's room with. It seems that animals also apply their CITIZENSHIP and adapt it to the environment they live in. Their natural enemies in the wild become their friends when they are put together in another kind of RELATIONSHIP. My pets, and I'm sure you all have had similar experiences, seem to have felt, that the dog, cats, guinea pig and fish were all CITIZENS of this home and therefore are no longer my enemies, but are my friends. We all belong here in this house with these humans that we own. hee hee

It's the same with people. Governments name our enemies for us and we buy into that. How can a CITIZEN of another country be my enemy when I don't even know them? How can anyone be my enemy when we all belong to the CITIZENSHIP of the human race? Do we approach each other much the same way that animals in the wild do? Animals have taught us that once we come to know someone who is different than we are we can live together in peace and harmony if we consider that we are all CITIZENS of the human race and the planet Earth and our differences do not matter. That is our true CITZENSHIP; our true sense of belonging.

Since the word ZEN is in CITIZENSHIP it prompted meditation.

Love, Connie


Edited by moonflower (06/01/03 11:13 AM)
_________________________
We cannot heal another person as healing comes from within. We can stimulate the radiance of others by being a light ourselves. - unknown author

Top
#134235 - 06/01/03 11:17 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: lightwave]
Chahldean Offline

Veteran

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 1273
Loc: Everywhere I've Ever Been.
Good Mourning fellow CityZens.

An E-lite(love THAT Word) Club....purrhaps designed to keep the others downtrodden? Slowly clubbing the illegal Aliens back into their Place of Origin.....where "they Be-Long"??? Definitely a Club of sorts. Depending on what your membership status is. Oh to Be-Long!!!!

All though the WOrd itself invokes secularism and elitism, conjuring thoughts of Clubs and Priviledges,causing a seperation between Us and Them (love that EOS)Citizen ship can actually be a good thing....

Sit In Zen Ship. Sounds like a Cruise for me....Imagine a Place where One could go and Be Free from the restraints of the Whirled...floating effortlessly amidst the See of Life, with No Tides of Belief to sway your current Thoughts. No waves of Oppression to keep your Spirit Tide. No boundaries to drift across....effortless Be-Longing. That's the Life for Me.

or City Zen Ship... A single Place where it's occupants Live and Let Live, all within the confinements of agreement. A Be-Longing without Long to Be.


A True State of the Union with the Pursuit of Life, Liberty and Happiness already exisiting....kinda like Conscious Evolution.


_________________________
Be Cool.
Stay Loose.
Gnosis Thy Self.
Love One and Other
All Will Be Well.






Top
#134236 - 06/08/03 06:05 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
Chahldean Offline

Veteran

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 1273
Loc: Everywhere I've Ever Been.

Halo EveryOne...and a Onederfull Whirled of Words continues....
With Uranus sowing it's oats in the Ethers...capturing staleness and complacency, spinning its unique axis into retrograde....I thought it be appropriate to use a Word in context of the aspect and in Theme with the Wandering Star itself...so without further adieu I bid you the Word:
REVOLUTION .

SOmething to contemplate while watching CNN or the neverending onslaught of Rain these daze....

We all wanna change the Whirled...




_________________________
Be Cool.
Stay Loose.
Gnosis Thy Self.
Love One and Other
All Will Be Well.






Top
#134237 - 06/08/03 09:50 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
EagleOverTheSea Offline
Archangel

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 4266
This may seem like word association, but these are the first things that popped into my head :

An image of the Earth going round the sun.

Mobs as in A Tale of Two Cities.

To Everything... turn, turn, turn
There is a season... turn, turn, turn
(Don't know why this one came to mind. lol.)

A Vehicle for Change!

Uranus!


Edited by EagleOverTheSea (06/08/03 09:53 PM)
_________________________
Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out.

- Some unknown soul who realises the need for balance wink

Top
#134238 - 06/08/03 10:34 PM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Chahldean]
Libra_Sun Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 2172
Loc: CA, USA
The vision that came to mind when I saw the word REVOLUTION...

~ reEvolution ~ the return of the revolving sphere of life that started from the beginning point of evolution to the end point, again resumes it circling motion from the beginning point of the revolving sphere of life as many times as it needs to until life's perfection is attained.
_________________________
Love heart and Smiling smile Cristina/Libra_Sun...Smile Radiates libra sun
"...into the chamber turning, all my soul within me burning...tis the wind and nothing more."

Top
#134239 - 06/11/03 09:40 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: Libra_Sun]
moonflower Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2026
Loc: South of the Thumb, MI, USA
I very much like your impressions of the word REVOLUTION, Cristina.

The only thing that enters my mind about the word REVOLUTION is that now is the time! Grab the tea and head for Boston harbor!

Love, Connie
_________________________
We cannot heal another person as healing comes from within. We can stimulate the radiance of others by being a light ourselves. - unknown author

Top
#134240 - 06/11/03 09:47 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: moonflower]
moonflower Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2026
Loc: South of the Thumb, MI, USA
From the album "Imagine: John Lennon"

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out?

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?

You say you've got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We are doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is, brother, you'll have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
_________________________
We cannot heal another person as healing comes from within. We can stimulate the radiance of others by being a light ourselves. - unknown author

Top
#134241 - 06/11/03 10:24 AM Re: Wonderful World of Words [Re: moonflower]
lightwave Offline
Old hand

Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 751
Hey Connie,

That's what I was going to say! Great minds think alike,
I guess...

Rena
_________________________
It's all about the dance...

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


Moderator:  BlueDove, Chahldean 
May
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
Shout Box

Who's Online
0 registered (), 27 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
brihspati, Pisces_Girl, gyutguy, kelley, karenmillen
3509 Registered Users
Top Posters
dgwalters 7870
tinkerbell 7021
Gregory 6619
WriteOn 6603
Aries 6397
Rainbow 5718
Morning Storm 5314
searching 4614
EagleOverTheSea 4266
Terri 3571

Forums copyright © 1999-2012 by Gregory Ellison and Mary Barron, website copyright © 2002-2012 by Gregory Ellison and Mary Barron, all rights reserved