Halo KnowFlakes...revisitng many old Threads for interest and information, I stumbled on some good ones that seemed to have sparked Knowledge in the Site that was usefull..I began to Wonder if again we could dissect knowledge with our vast plethera of KnowBe's out there and start formulating the New School for the New Age....without secularism, biasedness and preachy pontification.
My thought was it would be Free Form and Flowing...with each and every One participating in some small Way, contributing to the content to purrhaps re-Solve Mysteries and unlock Doors.
I Believe Words and Numbers alone have that Power. The Symbols our Minds and Mouths have interpreted throughout Time have become a language that we accept without even thinking about them. But the Words themselves, like coded blueprints, have profound answers contained within them that may have and have been overlooked by the Profane. Compiled with Semantics and Rhetoric, we now hear Words spoken and are coerced to Believe a designed intention rather than the basic formulation of their purepose.

I guess in Light of the Day, to start with, I will choose

MEMORIAL - or the root "Memory".

I believe it is a good word for many reasons and warrants many possibilities for discussion....anyone Game?



Chahlie

hello chahles

to begin with, I have always been slightly sceptical about lexigramming as LG put it forth because I feel that the spelling of a word is not that important (for lexigramming). My theory (theory, eh? ), well my theory is that lexigrams have to follow the phonetics of a word rather than how it is spelt.

so, even though memorial has no E in it, I think it stands for memo (as in reminder) and real (as in that which is not untrue)

just my thoughts............

Now, thoughts for example, could be lexigrammed with the phonetic th , au , t and s . the vowels can be added to these consonants to make meaningful words.

just my new theory

Hi Ani...and how art thou?

Hmmm. I like your thinking...due to the fact that Words are direct decents from Sounds. And there are many Languages that have evolved from the first grunt and hum of early Humans, all based on Glyphs or letters to describe a sound. Hidden words within Words add to the Spiral of the true intent-ion and meaning I suppose. Spelling is important only when Numerology is considered, as each letter has a vibration, changing the esoteric meaning of the Word considerably. But that aside, I believe you are right. The feelings conjured by the sounds of the words themselves hold deep internal meaning to us subconsciously. Memorial , as I have started here with, is derived certainly in Memo(re-Mind) and rial (real) as you described....real re-Mind! Interesting, as memories are subjective and personal to the actual occasion! Real ReMinding more of Me. Re-Membrance through real More of Me. I like that...I like the Theory Ani. Very in-Sightfull....

hmm...slightly, off topic here. But, I've always wondered why Linda said only English could be lexigrammed. If Ani's theory is true then English would be one of the more unsuitable languages for lexigramming. Wouldn't a phonetic language be more suitable? Not trying to blow up any theories, but just plain curious about Linda's reasoning behind her claim. I don't remember if she explained it in Star Signs. If she did, it must have been rather vague IMO, because it didn't "stick". Anybody have any ideas?

Suchi here's a part of Linda's explanation about the connection between the English language and the word druids of Lexigramming (from Chapter 8 of Linda Goodman's Star Signs):

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Although the following rightfully belongs in a later book, this particular "twelfth night secret" must be mentioned here in general, not in detail, as a foundation for the mighty power of words. I won't make any attempt to defend it in these pages, nor to offer the source of the revelation. Therefore, many of you may at first tend to disagree. But whatever your initial response, try to accept the premise that English -- yes, English -- was the first language spoken upon this Earth -- and on all other Earths, in all solar systems and Universes.

Humans tend to insist that anything of vast antiquity must be strange, complex and "foreign." On those rare occasions when Earthlings think at all about the language spoken "in the beginning," when Eveallegedly said to Adam, "Have a bite of this delicious apple, darling," it's usually imaged (by Americans) as some long-forgotten form of ancient Hebrew, Eskimo or gobbledygook-anything, as long as it's weird and not familiar.

Linking antiquity and the familiar is taboo, one of those rules accepted as having been engraved in stone, like the Ten Commandments, one of those rules that merely wisps of custom, having no relationship to reality. Yet each such unfoundedrule continues tolure humans into accepting it as "gospel truth." That's to be expected, I suppose, since the word RULE hides the word LURE. Rule is lure, and lure is rule.Quite!as Guru Nahtan would say, in his wontedquiet way. Naturally, since QUITE is also QUIET, through a quick switch of letters.

The reason it's such a shock to people to conceive that English was the original language spoken in the Eden -- Heaven now called Earth is that it's difficult for them to recall any memories of Eden and Eve in a time so many eons before the Tower of Babel, although they should be able to evoke memories of Eve in the garden, since EVOKE contains EVE.

The symbolic building of the Tower of Babel describes the wanton destruction of primordial English, which originally vibrated so purely to the Music of the Spheres that it fell as gently on the ethers and human ears as singing . . . or chanting. To speak in those original tones and rhythms was truly to sing! Well, what do you know! ENGLISH contains SING.Quite. English, however, lost its musical, harmonious purity after Adam began to tell HIS LIES, two words also hiding in ENGLISH. Note that it does not containher lies, for a reason related in a forthcoming work. It's interesting that to RELATE something means to tell what is REAL --LATER, after it has occurred. RELATE tells you all this.It defines itself. It's easy to get lost in thought and revelation when you're tuned into Lexigrams. Where was I?

As that future book will relate, many lies were seeded by Adam, after he became MAD, the word being prophetically hidden within his name, ADAM --and that's the truth, even if it offends and hurts the mistaken images promoted by the patriarch-minded. All truth hurts to some degree, since it digs out falsehoods by the roots, sometimes as painful an experience as a trip to the dentist for root canal work, as truth itself warns, since HURT is found there, hiding-in-plain-sight in TRUTH. Adam's lies, and the reason for his madness will explain why Earthlings can never become fully EVOLVED concerning the matter of their origin until they learn to LOVE EVE, and stop believing that she initiated the original temptation, as the word EVOLVE has been telling us, in Lexigram, for such a long, weary time. This is not some manufactured promotion for Women's Liberation, but a long buried truth even ERA supporters have thus far not listed to with the inner EAR.

After the Fall, English remained, but in a much less pure form of pattern and tone, and was no longer "sung" or chanted (remember incantations?) in its original rhythms and vibrating notes, until the symbolic building of the Tower of Babel, at which time it disappeared entirely into the mass subconscious, remaining dormant until, by Divine Will, it was slowly and gradually resurrected in the Celtic region of Earth. It's part of the great mystery of English that NOTE is TONE, and vice versa, because MUSIC was once the SUM total ofall that was. The word MUSIC itself tells you that, does it not? ...

Following the Tower of Babel language cataclysm (which very nearly contains "asylum," except for the u, so perhaps it should be spelled "catuclysm"-- we still have to watch for distortion of spelling) -- following this murder of the musicof English, a major cosmic event of vast importance to Earth and Earthlings transpired.

Because the destruction of the rhyme, rhythms and musical tones of primordial English inflicted such severe damage to universal synchronicity, short circuiting as it did the former harmonious communication between Earthlings, our Creators divinely manifested the wee nature spirits, called druids by the Celtic people, with a lower-case d, who were and still are quite real entities-- also shy and quiet.

Remember . . . in the Beginning, our Creators spoke certain sounds which produced differing sets of vibrational frequencies in the ethers.Some of these were of such low frequency that they formed particles of what we call matter or physical substance.

In this manner were the tiny word druids created...

The nature spirit druids were charged with the sacred mission of hiding and protecting the Anglo-Saxon alphabet until the preordained time for it to be resurrected and gradually reseeded into the mass collective subconscious of humans.

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There's more in the chapter, but that's the gist of it!

'Course, as Linda herself often said, no one should take anything she says to be "the Truth" on her authority ... but it's certainly one truth expressed in beautifully poetic and magical terms!

Love,
Greg

But then, we dont have any way of knowing what this primordial english (i.e. before Babel) was.

For example, geoffrey chaucer would have spelt fairy as faerie.

and pneumonia wouldnt perhaps have had a P.

And would there have been a word like "aquarian"?



I still think that the sound of a word is more important than how it is spelt in current-day english.

Or gigabyte?

I know, Ani ... it is more logical that the vibrational meaning of a word would be connected with its sound rather than its spelling. And Linda agreed with this, which is why in her numerological studies she used the Chaldean system, which translates the letters to numerical values according to the equivalent sound in the ancient Chaldean alphabet, rather than the newer Pythagorean system which simply assigns numbers to letters according to their position in the modern alphabet!

Whatever her source, she believed that with Lexigrams there are literal Nature Spirits (word druids) who have assumed the responsibility of retaining the original primordial meanings of words as they evolved and changed spellings. As she describes this -

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When this occurred the Anglo-Saxon alphabet began to take a wrong fork in the road, as it were, twisting itself into several new languages, such as Latin, Greek, German, French, Italian and so forth. It took a while for the basic essence of English speech to return to human consciousness, first incarnating itself into a form called "Olde English."

It was at this point of a pretzel twist in the English language that the druids, who possessed (and still do) magic powers bestowed upon them by their -- and our -- Creators, multiplied or "cloned" themselves in a kind of desperate spiritual and mystical attempt to keep matters under control. To accomplish this, theymattered themselves, superimposing themselves on each word, to protect each word from oblivion, while simultaneously causing it to gradually assume its former shape andsound.

The druids took over their mission of "mattering" themselves, cloning themselves and superimposing themselves over individual words in the Celtic regions where "Olde English" began toreappear: England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. After a short time the little nature spirit words became so hypnotized by and enmeshed within this mission (much as did our own Spirits when they created flesh bodies: See Chapter 9) that it became somewhat of a fun game to them. Losing their perspective, from time to time, like mischievous small children, they began to spring little unexpected mini-pranks on humans who "used" them -- spoke them. When the druids were spoken (as words) they proceeded to create an action, to materialize, so to speak, the meaning of the "word spoken," as Earthlings tossed the little nature spirits into the ethers as sounds. Perhaps, who knows, they may have felt that this was an added benefit to humans, helping them to learn the power of the words they spoke, thus gently leading them back into recalling the primordial purity of the English language.

Now do you understand why it is that the people of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland all have their legends and stories of -- their firm belief in-- the wee folk, druids, elves, faeries, leprechauns and the like? ...

Truly, I am not jesting, trying to be amusing -- or telling you faerie stories -- although these true stories are, admittedly, about faeries, nature spirits or sprites and wee folk.

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Of course Linda was well aware of the logical implausibility of her "faerie stories" about the English language, which is why she acknowledged "I won't make any attempt to defend it in these pages, nor to offer the source of the revelation. Therefore, many of you may at first tend to disagree."

Love,
Greg

hmmmmm (pondering)

as far as I know, the oldest indo-european language is lithuanian. so, yes, I think I will disagree

anyways, back to M E M O R I A L. some words that immediately look back at me are:

memo
liar
rome
lame
elm (done in 15 seconds, hence the usage of "immediate")

Hi Guys

Interesting thread, Chahlie.

When I hear the word MEMORIAL for some reason I think of it in the terms of a tribute. Not just a remembering or recalling someone or something but also giving honor to the memory. It's like a special memory. Which might be the reason we say, "Oh, I remember that," instead of saying, "Oh, I memorialize that."

To me there is not only the word but the context in which the word is used. Because a word can have more than one use or one meaning. Even words that are spelled the same in the English language have different meanings depending on the context in which it it is used. That is why the English language is so very hard to learn for immigrants. I used to teach ESL (English Second Language) for a literacy program as a volunteer and that is one of the things that made it so hard for those trying to learn English. One of the most asked questions is "why do you have the same spelling for words that mean different things?" Good question. Maybe it was the "wee people" and their pranks which Linda spoke about in her book.

Thinking of the word MEMORIAL as a tribute or recalling someone or some event with honor is no surprise since the word LORE is contained in MEMORIAL. Lore means traditional knowledge or belief and before the written word that is how people remembered or recalled people and events. They passed it on orally through stories from one generation to the next. So we say LORE when we are talking about events or things that have been passed on by the word of mouth.

The word ORAL is also contained in MEMORIAL. So to me, the word MEMORIAL means ORAL LORE. Also the words RIME ( which is another way of spelling RHYME) and MIME are contained in MEMORIAL. Rime is what poets do when telling a story or describing someone or something in a flowing way and MIME is a way of communicating the written word and telling a story without speaking. It all goes back to ORAL LORE. And the word LORE conjures up some event or someone special as well.

Love, Connie

It occurred to me on afterthought that the word MORAL is also contained within the word MEMORIAL. That's one of those words that are the same, pronounced and spelled the same, but have two meanings. It pertains to principles of right and wrong and conduct, and it also pertains to the practical meaning of a story.

What that has to do with MEMORIAL I have no idea. MORE and MAIL is contained within MEMORIAL too. Remember me. Send MORE MAIL. Okay, so it's raining outside and I'm getting silly now.

Love, Connie

Hmm...Yes, it is a little hard to accept just like that, though I wouldn't rule out the possibility that she could be right. I remembered it had something to do with druids but not that it was the oldest language in the world. Strange. The druid part must have seemed more acceptable to my mind than the possibility about it being the oldest language. lol. Or maybe it's just my love of the fantastic!

Hmm..let's assume she is right about it all. So, where does that leave us and the present form of English? Are we moving away from the pure form pre-Fall to something that is nowhere near it? Or did we finish with corrupting the language as much as we could and now the druids are leading us slowly back to the original? If so, they'd better do something about the unscientific spellings Peeneemonia, indeed!

The incantation and musical quality and singing the language kind of reminds me of Sankrit hymns which were always sung in a particular rhythm. I'm not so familiar with all the technical words related to music, so I'm not sure, if rhythm is the right word to use. But, I couldn't think of a better word to describe it. Anyways, coming back to Sanskrit, it is a phonetic language. What you see, is what you hear. So, I'm wondering if English in it's pure form was something similar. More phonetic and more musical. Was it perhaps so different that we probably wouldn't recognise it as the same language today? Could it have left remnants in other languages too? Bits and pieces, here and there?

And if we are going back to the purer form, which avatar of present-day English is the one to follow? There are so many forms of English in different parts of the world. And so many variations within each. The formal and the slang. Which is purer? Which evolution of the language vibrates with forgotten memories of the original and which are just another layer of corruption? How do we differentiate? Are our standards of "formal=pure, slang=impure" really accurate? Is there really a frame of reference we can fall back on? And lastly, am I making any sense?

Connie, I agree with the way you feel about Memorial. I think that is how it is meant to be. Memorial has a feeling of giving tribute or honouring.

MORAL - practical meaning to a story. The gist of it all. The point being conveyed by the story.

MEMORIAL - Remembering an event or a person. Why? For some specific reason. Some importance they hold for us. Some value. Some point. Why do we have LOREs about them? Because there was a point to their life or the event? Something that has significance for us as a people too? The point of recounting their stories/the LOREs is to remind us of that point - that MORAL of the story? It could be anything from standing up for one's principals, achieving freedom from tyranny or just simply speaking the truth. What lessons do their MEMORIES have for us? What MORAL to the story?

Is that the connection you are looking for Connie?

Greg, thank you so much for taking the trouble to type all that out.

My pleasure, Suchi! (Actually I didn't have to type it all out - I still had it stored in electronic form from the old LG site )

For the record, I wouldn't accept this explanation as "fact" either ... especially presented without source or historical support as it is. I just wanted to answer your question of why Linda said Lexi's apply only to English. However, that doesn't mean it's without value. Truth to tell, I don't assume ANY of the stories about the origins of esoteric wisdom to be factual, including the various legends of Atlantis, the secrets of the Great Pyramid, the extraterrestrial origin of the ancient "gods" and so on ... although some of these legends have more to support them than others, and there is likely some truth in all of them, even when they conflict with each other and with academic knowledge. Knowledge of this type is at a very deep archetypal level that surpasses our ability to validate it empirically, and much of it may relate to a level of reality that is not entirely graspable in linear "factual" terms anyway. But if such mythical stories give us an angle to understand hidden wisdom in an insightful way, then I think it's useful whether literally true or not.

Many if not most of the stories in the world's various religious scriptures fall into this category as well, which is why I think we miss the boat if we worry about their historical veracity rather than the wisdom they contain. In this case, the idea that there are intelligent nature-spirit "word druids" embodied in the words themselves to ensure that hidden meanings persist even as external language grows and changes, makes a lot of sense to me. (The assertion that it applies "only" to the English language is really irrelevant to me personally, since I don't know any other languages well enough to be able to ferret out subtleties from them ... but if I did, I'd sure look for them! )

Lovely insights into MEMORIAL!

Love,
Greg

Very good connection, EOS and it does make a lot of sense when you think about MEMORIAL as a special way of honoring a memory. There can be no greater tribute to the life of a person than expressing what we have learned from them or how that person touched our lives and made us a better person just because he/she existed.

That is definitely the connection I was looking for.

Love, Connie

Thank you, Greg and Connie

Ah! Just copy/paste, huh? I just spotted some typos and thought perhaps you'd typed in all in a hurry, Greg.

I agree with what you said about legends and religious stories and everything else of that kind.

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Many if not most of the stories in the world's various religious scriptures fall into this category as well, which is why I think we miss the boat if we worry about their historical veracity rather than the wisdom they contain.

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Exactly!

WordPlay is WonderFull.
Makes your Mouth and Mind harmonize....syncronize....hypnotize.

What a Memorial for Memorial!
Memorizing Memories of Oral Lore;
reMembering More of Me.

I declare! Indeed such a Way we perceive a Word.....
how Our Mind's think and form-U-late Perception.
The Word Memorial is often associated with Solemnity; as if the Past were Passed, and it's remembrance, vowed Vigilance.

In attempts to retain an Occurance, an Expeer-ience, a Special Moment, Person or LifeTime...we "take" Time and "make" Time to honor the Memory. Often needing to re-Member, Human Beings live in a State of Memorium, revering that which our Lives have come to Witness as our Truth. And yet, still only a Perception......


The cocentric magnifying glass Eye ultimately looking in a Mirror.


To memorialize anything though, One must have Solemn Respect for It.... A Great Intent to preserve it's Integrity....and a ceremony to acknowledge it's undertaking. OtherWise, it is mere Remembrance and Oral Folk Lore of a Time gone by..... in Loving Memory.

I agree with the Majority here that agrees with the Use of Words and their meanings... the usage, being just as important as the origin of a Word, has created connotations in our Minds far beyond it's actual "meaning"...and causes our re-Minds to gravitate to it's intent-ion.
Let's try another one on for Size shall We?

Citizenship.

An elite club Another way to seperate the Us from the Them?

Greeting All,

CITIZENSHIP,eh. This one evoked a visual interpretation!
It looks like a group of "belongers" travelling along
on the "same" journey...
But, is the ship on the water, or is it docked?
That is the Question!

Lightwave

Good Morning Knowflakes

In reading your's and EOS's reply, Rena, I had to smile because the first thing that popped into my head concerning the word CITZENSHIP is belonging. I spiraled on what you guys said. Yes, I agree it can be another way we humans have of promoting an US and THEM kind of mentality. All those -ship words can do that if we think about it. They all make us a part of some group. A clique. They are all kind of "Clique-words."

For some reason this word CITIZENSHIP made me more aware of how many words we attach the suffix -SHIP to. And it all seems to be a way of saying we belong, we are part of a group or clique. It is kind of possessive, as all human love tends to be. Some of the "Clique" words that I thought of are listed here but I bet there are many more:

OWNERSHIP
FRIENDSHIP
KINSHIP
MEMBERSHIP
CITIZENSHIP
RELATIONSHIP

The words here all seem to imply that "I belong." CITIZENSHIP implies that I belong to a group from a particular country, state, city, county, township, tribe and on the whole larger scale, I belong or am a CITZEN of the world ( the planet Earth ). Even more to the point, I belong or am part of the group called human beings. If we look at our CITIZENSHIP on the largest scale of belonging to the human race and as a CITIZEN of the world then it takes away the US and THEM of it all and makes it just US; all of US struggling together and pulling together for each other.

In thinking about groups or cliques I conjured up the image of nature and how it is part of nature that "birds of a feather flock together." We see that in all of nature. You never see lower forms of animals hanging out with animals of another species. Not in the wild anyway. But it's an odd thing that if you put different species of animals in a home environment together you find that they tend to develop an affinity for each other. Whereas in the wild they would kill each other, living together in a home environment they become good buddies. I find that amazing. I have at one time, due to my kids and their love of animals, had living in my home two dogs, two cats, a guinea pig and fish. One of my dogs used to go up to the cat and rub him in greeting as if he were also a cat, and the cat liked it! The cat slept on Lisa's bed, right next to the large fish aquarium where Lisa kept her guinea pig, Alfie. There was no top on the tank and yet the cat never bothered the guinea pig. The squeaking sounds that Alfie made never even disturbed the cats sleep. Yet one day the cat brought home from the woods a dead guinea pig that either escaped or was turned loose in the woods next to our house. Our cat had killed that guinea pig that he encountered in the wild, yet never even attempted to harm Alfie who he shared Lisa's room with. It seems that animals also apply their CITIZENSHIP and adapt it to the environment they live in. Their natural enemies in the wild become their friends when they are put together in another kind of RELATIONSHIP. My pets, and I'm sure you all have had similar experiences, seem to have felt, that the dog, cats, guinea pig and fish were all CITIZENS of this home and therefore are no longer my enemies, but are my friends. We all belong here in this house with these humans that we own. hee hee

It's the same with people. Governments name our enemies for us and we buy into that. How can a CITIZEN of another country be my enemy when I don't even know them? How can anyone be my enemy when we all belong to the CITIZENSHIP of the human race? Do we approach each other much the same way that animals in the wild do? Animals have taught us that once we come to know someone who is different than we are we can live together in peace and harmony if we consider that we are all CITIZENS of the human race and the planet Earth and our differences do not matter. That is our true CITZENSHIP; our true sense of belonging.

Since the word ZEN is in CITIZENSHIP it prompted meditation.

Love, Connie

Good Mourning fellow CityZens.

An E-lite(love THAT Word) Club....purrhaps designed to keep the others downtrodden? Slowly clubbing the illegal Aliens back into their Place of Origin.....where "they Be-Long"??? Definitely a Club of sorts. Depending on what your membership status is. Oh to Be-Long!!!!

All though the WOrd itself invokes secularism and elitism, conjuring thoughts of Clubs and Priviledges,causing a seperation between Us and Them (love that EOS)Citizen ship can actually be a good thing....

Sit In Zen Ship. Sounds like a Cruise for me....Imagine a Place where One could go and Be Free from the restraints of the Whirled...floating effortlessly amidst the See of Life, with No Tides of Belief to sway your current Thoughts. No waves of Oppression to keep your Spirit Tide. No boundaries to drift across....effortless Be-Longing. That's the Life for Me.

or City Zen Ship... A single Place where it's occupants Live and Let Live, all within the confinements of agreement. A Be-Longing without Long to Be.


A True State of the Union with the Pursuit of Life, Liberty and Happiness already exisiting....kinda like Conscious Evolution.

Halo EveryOne...and a Onederfull Whirled of Words continues....
With Uranus sowing it's oats in the Ethers...capturing staleness and complacency, spinning its unique axis into retrograde....I thought it be appropriate to use a Word in context of the aspect and in Theme with the Wandering Star itself...so without further adieu I bid you the Word:
REVOLUTION .

SOmething to contemplate while watching CNN or the neverending onslaught of Rain these daze....

We all wanna change the Whirled...

This may seem like word association, but these are the first things that popped into my head :

An image of the Earth going round the sun.

Mobs as in A Tale of Two Cities.

To Everything... turn, turn, turn
There is a season... turn, turn, turn
(Don't know why this one came to mind. lol.)

A Vehicle for Change!

Uranus!

The vision that came to mind when I saw the word REVOLUTION...

~ reEvolution ~ the return of the revolving sphere of life that started from the beginning point of evolution to the end point, again resumes it circling motion from the beginning point of the revolving sphere of life as many times as it needs to until life's perfection is attained.

I very much like your impressions of the word REVOLUTION, Cristina.

The only thing that enters my mind about the word REVOLUTION is that now is the time! Grab the tea and head for Boston harbor!

Love, Connie

From the album "Imagine: John Lennon"

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out?

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?

You say you've got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We are doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is, brother, you'll have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?
Alright?

Hey Connie,

That's what I was going to say! Great minds think alike,
I guess...

Rena

This is Good Stuff here....the Way Words cause our Minds to associate feelings and thoughts...Play rhymes and riddles in our Heads, invoking deeper meanings than the face value of the Word itself.
I love all the interpretations!

A vehicle for Change! Turn...turn...turn.

ANd Cristina..that is One Vision indeed! Bravo.
Re-Evolution.
The frame story of co-centric Circles emitting from One another into the Future re-turning to the Past.
The Complete Incompletion.

And of course...J.L. watching the Wheels go Round and Round.....how I love to watch them Roll.

Revolution has all ways struck a Chord in my Uranian Heart...shedding Molten dogma for a New Brave Whirled has all ways appealed to me,...breaking barriers and setting Sights for the New Age to grant Evolution, in leaps and bounds. Quite unlike ReSolution, which is often a cerebral and/or emotional decision, Revolution has all ways spurred thoughts of flaming torches,secret meetings of Anarchists and Freedom Fighters alike. Plotting a bold course for the Masses to briefly visit..if only to open their I's.

Feel the Fervor!

Staying in the Theme a bit...how about ALLEGIANCE ?

Virgo etymologist reporting for duty!

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, allegiance is:
1. Loyalty or the obligation of loyalty, as to a nation, sovereign, or cause.
2. The obligations of a vassal to a lord.

The word derives from the Anglo-French legaunce "loyalty of a liege-man to his lord," which in turn derives from the Old French legeance and further still from the latin ligare, "to bind or hold together" (ligament, ligature.)

A leige (the lord to which a leige-man is bound) is one qwho is "entitled to the loyalty and services of vassals or subjects, according to feudal law."

The interesting thing here to me is the sense of obligation, or being BOUND to loyalty. These days we think of loyalty as something more freely chosen, and in America we "pledge allegiance" to the flag and its republic (why would we need to "pledge" something we were already obligated to?) Yet in fact we ARE legally bound to give loyalty to our respective "lords" ... the crime of treason is exactly the failure to remain loyal to one's country.


I think it's fascinating that even as our thoughts and ideas evolve, they remain conditioned by ancient concepts we may not even remember but are embedded in our language. Thus, even in the nation explicitly organized so that the state is the servant of the people, rather than the other way around, we nonetheless perpetuate a concept and pledge that describes an unequal relationship between vassals and the sovereign "lords" of state, in which it is the state that is entitled to the loyalty and services of us vassals!

Interestingly, the word "religion" stems from the same root, RE-ligare meaning "to bind BACK" or to bind to the original Lord. It seems that at least in the Western traditions the notion of obedience and obligation -- that we are BOUND to a lord of authority -- have assumed primary importance even in the spiritual realm.

Small wonder that we're so well conditioned to doing what we are told! It's what we've been taught for thousands of years. It's built into our languages, and hence our thought processes.

That's some tough conditioning to overcome!

Love,
Greg

Well now Greg. How pleased I am to have been invoked here by your concern and Words. Somewhere in the Force of Nature, I felt the conjuration of my Spirit to rejoin a neglected Path I so much missed ,only to find your inquery with my Name. Thank you for you thoughts and more importantly....these Words! I find your investigation and observation here completely fascinating and most appropriate for the pure pose of this Thread! How I missed it this long, I can only excuse to my Uranian Nature.....

Allegiance has never been a favorite Word of mine...finding it difficult to be a Ship at sea with an anchor in the Harbor, the innate ligare I have is to my Self and that which I have come to call Mine. Be it a country, family, town, state or village...I am bound to my Life which I have created, honed and call my own. Innately, without never for pledges and promises....Yes. Some VERY heavy NLP conditioning here I strive so hard to distort. Rattle the cage I say....

I feel as though FreeDome has been misinterpreted into some fabricated assembly line product that is displayed with flags, bumper stickers and SUV's roaming the Great Fontier. Using allegiance as the fear factor to belong as a Patriotic Citizen. "Your with Us or your against Us" has replaced "give me Liberty or give me death."
Allegiance has always brought images of the French Foreign Legion to my Mind,....with the notion of all the misfits in the World, filled with fallibility and faltered pasts joining together to "bind" as One, under some solemn oath agreed upon by the Will of man. All under the name John Smith. I love your information. It is EXACTLY what I was hoping for in this Thread. Nothing better than a Virgo Etymologist I say....aside a Doctor I suppose. Or a straight man.

If allegiance is required, FreeDome is lost.

Is FreeDome a PRIVILEDGE ?

Chahles! How great to see you here, I was really missing your words of wisdom and whizzes of word-dom.

Thanks for bringing up this thread again, I had forgotten about it too.

Love,
Greg

Hey, there you are, Chahlie!
Glad to see you are still with us.

Unfortionately FreeDome is a priviledge in this foresaken world, but that is not the way it should Be.
Privy ledge-- secret knowledge....private happenings and blessings bestowed only on the chosen few.
When it is really our given birthright,
and so without it, we are actually robbed of it from the start.

As the man who will be executed soon for blasphomy for expressing negative thoughts of Muhammad.....Freedom is definately a priviledge he will never know.
Allegiance and Priviledge
are foreign and displaced words for Freedoms Pure intent.

~Lisa

Hi Chahles, nice to see you back!

Freedom is NOT a priviledge.
It is neither given nor earned from another being.
It shouldn't even come to the point of having to fight for it.
It is not an honor to receive from another.
It is the RIGHT that God has bestowed upon us.
It is our FREE WILL.

Chaldean!! I've missed you so!

I freely left the forum and I freely returned to it and I freely express my joy of reading your posts.

Freedom
Free dom
Freed om
Fre edom
Dome
Feed
Eden
rome
more......

I feel freedom when I have authority over my behavior, my property, my life, my existance. When my behavior isn't dictated by outsiders, when my actions aren't restricked by others, when my thoughts aren't manipulated, freedom to me is completely felt when ME, MYSELF and I exercise sole authority over my feelings, thoughts, actions and choices.

That being said, true freedom does not exist. Perhaps it is a state of mind alone, a fiction, an illusion we're suckered into, I do not feel freedom when I pass by a line of flags flying in the air. Quite the opposite, I feel restrictions and suffocation.

Freedom does not exist. Free will however -- does.

Yet I must ad that different levels of freedom are very much present and in some areas of the world the levels fluctuate. But true unalterated freedom is but a state of mind -- in my free thinking opinion!

Almost four years to the day,
I found this Thread under my bed.

I never did get to reply to Greg on this one and know how much he loved Words as we do. It was an intersting topic I hope to continue...4 years later?!

Talk about Time travel.

Bump.

*smile*

So what shall our word be?

Hey You. You all ways have your dancing shoes on....
Ready to tear up the floorum and be whisked away with our greatest gift since the imposable Thumb....Words!

One thing completely fascinating to me is the ability to do this...pick up where we left off...so many Daze and Threads ago.
As if Time has waited for Us to catch up.
I guess the Beat is still the Beat...and the Band plays on...
anda 1, a 2, a 3.....

"My Dear Momma left me,
when I wuz quite young....

I'm on the Road Agin..."


I guess a good Place to start
Is at the BEginning....

The Word Genesis comes to Mind.

A Word I have all ways found intriguing.
To Begin the beginning,...

What does Genesis bring to Mind?

Help me out Wall Flowers, one cannot dance alone too long after all...even Billy Idol.

Shall we? I've got a few lexi lines --

Genesis is seen in genes

Siege signs sins

Sis Gin sings

I guess Rainbow popped in with that third.

Maria

Sis Gin sings. Lovely!!


genesis:


See Signs

Sign sign, every where a sign

Love, juni

Ah, genesis - a word that brings many things to mind and a very good one to spiral on. The very first book in the Christian bible that tells their version of the story of Creation, beginning with the Heavens, which contain stars, meteors, comets and planets in galaxy upon galaxy all the way to infinity. Stars and planets that are there for us to "see the signs" as Juni mentioned. As above, so below.

The Book of Genesis also gives a detailed genealogy of mankind starting with Adam and Eve. That story involves the committing of a sin which is contained within the word Genesis, as Maria pointed out. And Genesis is also where our "Sis Gin sings". A beautiful song from a beautiful soul to chase away any images of sneaky sinful serpents. I don't think it gets anymore beautiful than that. Thanks Maria for putting that beautiful imagine into our hearts.

I was drawn to the beginning of this thread and my jaw dropped when I read Greg's 5/26/03 post, which is the 5th one. He was quoting from Linda's Star Signs and in it, he speaks of singing and Adam and Eve. I urge you all to go back and re-read it. It's so amazing how his post from almost 5 years ago comes full circle to our discussion of Genesis today. As you so aptly put Chahlie, it is "as if Time has waited for Us to catch up."

Also within Genesis is Genie, a magical being who possesses the power to grant wishes in an instant, much like our Universe and all within it was created with the thoughts/desires of Higher Power. "Let there be Light" and poof there was Light. Our thoughts are the genesis of our uniquely created realities.

& ,
Tracey

(I'm not sure this has a place here.
hope so)



To diminish is to begin

Genesis; a womb
Transmuting creation
from
surrendered flight

Most magnificent
in latent power
the private tenderness
of unannounced Grace.

Often passed by~
most meaningfully,
cherishingly
embraced
beyond realms of
Seizing.

A flower
blazes more significant
in a flowerless dome.

As the steely
shoulder of Space,
whose cold Vast Hollow
of mysterious Thrones
forever reveres
polar pulses of
exuding warmth,



Circulating/ birthing
boisterous nurseries
from the faintest
dying breaths.



~~reflections
inspired by
The Little Flower--
Saint Therese of Lisieux

Halo Wordies

Seems like a month of Sun Daze since we've convened....(or is that covened? )to this Place of Wordology. Ether way, we reTurn once a Gain to the point at hand in the forearm we seam to in Joy so much. And thank Goodness for that.

Since Words have a Way of Interpretation a bout them, and Being deSigned in such a Way, as to allow the Witness a glimpse of the Origin and OriginAll "meaning" of a Word...purhaps we can format this Thread in a Way as to unlock Srirals that are Other Wise caught in Be tween...
f r a g m e n t e d
Thoughts,Feelings and Actions
jumbled Up
written Down
Stared at Side Ways
Debated
Related
Elated Frustrated
Thrown Out there
Held in Hear
So Far
So Near

but Still....
f r a g m e n t e d.

Waiting to Be made Sense Of.
Waiting to Be reTurned Together
to Fabricate
Function from Form
Spoken Words from Silent Symbols
Feelings from Thoughts
Words from Feelings.



A Web of Threads

peacing togather Up
and
Onward
the True "meaning"
of
It
All.



Sew....


Hear we Go:


Please ADD ON all that You Feel is missing or Knowit Worthy...
ALL Additions are Well Come,

No Matter the Source.



The Word and It's Meaning:(Definition/Languages/Root/Glyphs)

Genesis: Origin/Birth "Genesis" derives from the Greek title Γένεσις, meaning "birth", "creation", "cause", "beginning", "source" or "origin", In Hebrew it is called בְּרֵאשִׁית, B'reshit or Bərêšîth,[2] "in the beginning", from the first words of the text in Hebrew, in line with the other four books of the Torah.


The Lexigramming of the Word: (All Rules apply)
(Love these BTW and the connections are so appropriate :))

Is In See Sis Gin Sings Genie Genes Seige Signs
I Sees
I See Genes
Isis is Genes
Gene I see's
Isis is in Genes
Is Isis in Genes?
Genes see signs
Isis sees signs
Genie sees signs in Isis
Signs see Genie in Isis
Genie sees signs in Isis
Genie see sin in Isis
I see sin in Isis
Genie sees I in Isis
I see sign in Genes

The FolkLore/Mythology/Hearsay/History of the Word

GENESIS Greek: "birth", "origin") is the first book of the Bible, and the first of five books of the pentateuch. It recounts the Judeo-Christian history of the world from the creation to the descent of the children of Israel into Egypt, and contains some of the best-known stories of the Old Testament, including Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, and the biblical Patriarchs.
"In the beginning God[3] created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters." God creates light; the "firmament" separating "the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament;" dry land and seas and plants and trees which grew fruit with seed; the sun, moon and stars in the firmament; air-breathing sea creatures and birds; and on the sixth day, "the beasts of the earth according to their kinds." "Then God said, Let us make man in our image ... in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."[4] On the seventh day God rests from the task of completing the heavens and the earth: "So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation."

God forms Adam "from the dust of the ground...and man became a living being."[5] God sets the man in the Garden of Eden and permits him to eat of all the fruit within it, except that of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, "for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." God makes "every beast of the field and every bird of the air, ... and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name ... but for the man there was not found a helper fit for him." God causes the man to sleep, and makes a woman from one of his ribs, and the man awakes and names his companion Woman, "because she was taken out of Man."[6] "And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed."[7]

The serpent tells the woman that she will not die if she eats the fruit of the tree: "When you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,[8] knowing good and evil." So the woman eats and gives to the man who also eats. "Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons." God curses the serpent: "upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life;" the woman he punishes with pain in childbirth and with subordination to man: "your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you;" and the man he punishes with a life of toil: "In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground." The man names his wife Eve,[9] "because she was the mother of all living." "Behold," says God, "the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil," and expels the couple from Eden, "lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever." The gate of Eden is sealed by a cherub and a flaming sword "to guard the way to the tree of life."[10]

Genesis 1-11 "appears to be a reformatting of motifs and characters from four Mesopotamian myths, Adapa and the South Wind, Atrahasis, the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Enuma Elish."[90] The Babylonian myths are inverted in the Hebrew retelling: for example, the Babylonian serpent-god Ningishzida is a friend of mankind who helps the human hero Adapa in his search for immortality, while Genesis' serpent is man's enemy, seeking to trick Adam out of the chance to attain immortality.[91] The inversions represent a rejection of the power of Babylon's gods in favour of the might of Yahweh; more than this, they replace the essentially optimistic worldview of the Mesopotamian mythos - "things were not nearly as good to begin with as they have become since" - with a worldview in which the world was created perfect but grew steadily worse, "until God finally had to do away with all mankind except for the pious Noah who would beget a new and better stock."[92](Wikpedia)


The Phonetic/Linguistic/Rhetoric/Semantic Connotation to the Word
(Sounds and Lost Speelings)
Gene Isis
GeneEye's Is
Genus Is
Genus His
Gene is His
Gene Isis

A Personal Interpreter-tation Of the Word: (WhateEver comes to Mind)


Genesis always reMinds me of a dawning.
A miraculous Birth that
sparks and provokes a New Life.
It is ever becoming without actual Birth It Self.
In it's perpetual turning and reTurning
Genesis emcompasses the many into One.
A Happening that is without cause or consequence.
A rEvolving onset of Life.
Perpetual prana.
There is no BEginning in Genesis, which is the ironic Mystery. Constant reLease of Life projecting into It Self,...
Purhaps the mere Witness of It makes it seem so mystical,...or the poderance of It, so Wonderous.

Whirled without BEginning Or end....


Quest-EonS Comments Observations :[/u] Shout it Out Loud.





Any One Game?

Please join my Self and Others, not just as a viewer but as a
participant in our Spiral Onward and Upward.

Who knows. MayBe we will get LOST!~






Chahlie

Halo Wordies

Purrhaps a Word closer to home would ignite some Thotht round hear. May we move on to a Word we are more familyyouare...

a Word we can relate to and aspire from? METAMORPHOSIS

METAMORPHOSIS:Metamorphosis is a biological process by which an animal physically develops after birth or hatching, involving a conspicuous and relatively abrupt change in the animal's form or structure through cell growth and differentiation. Some insects, amphibians, molluscs, crustaceans, cnidarians, echinoderms and tunicates undergo metamorphosis, which is usually (but not always) accompanied by a change of habitat or behaviour.(wikpedia)


LEXIGRAMS::


FOLKLORE::The Metamorphoses by the Roman poet Ovid is a narrative poem in fifteen books that describes the creation and history of the world. Probably written between 2 and 8 AD, it has remained one of the most popular works of mythology, being the Classical work best known to medieval writers and thus having a great deal of influence on medieval poetry.
Ovid's work, is that of love—personal love or love personified as Amor (Cupid). Indeed, the other Roman gods are repeatedly perplexed, humiliated, and made ridiculous by Amor, an otherwise relatively minor god of the pantheon who is the closest thing this mock-epic has to an epic hero. Apollo comes in for particular ridicule as Ovid shows how irrational love can confound the god of pure reason. While few individual stories are outright sacrilegious, the work as a whole inverts the accepted order, elevating humans and human passions while making the gods and their desires and conquests objects of low humor.

PHONETICS/SEMANTICS::

Meet a More for Us
Met amore for Us
Met a more for Sis


PERSONAL INTERPRETATION::
Usually One thinks of caterpillers and butterflies, snakes and rising phoenixes, the obvious transformation of the physical Being and Self to the naked I. In the land of Mysticism, it is the illusionist who transforms or distorts reality for the Seeker and wondrous audience...but personally I believe Metamorphosis is a willfull Spiritual desire to aspire higher...to Be come more than One self...to Be come the Part of the Hole...that fills the Void. The True elevation of our Selves hidden deep in our human cast. It is ignited by our deepest yearning to arise out of the confines of our carefully constructed prison we succumb to everyday....in this yearning we spark the successive catalyst that forces the chain reaction of growth outside our self to the Etheric body. Constantly emitting
and radiating...we metamorphosize continuously.

Chahli,

Read this thread with great interest. Recently, we started exploring the basic archetypes that each letter of the alphabet might represent, by exploring words that begin with, or feature those letters prominently.

We found some interesting patterns that I'd love to share here at CE, to see if it triggers any spirals or insights from anyone here.

Love,

daf

Halo Daf

Again, tying up loose Threads hear....

Yes I would in joy any input you have on any of the Word Threads....and most especially hear if you have them. I am hip to Archtypes and am very interested.



Chahlie