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#141383 - 12/18/03 10:42 PM 10 member commission to report on 911
Aries Offline
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There are 2 broadscasts touching on this tonight...

first on Coast to Coast (10 pm pst) re:
"First Hour: Former Congressman Bob Barr (bobbarr.org) will comment on a panel's upcoming report on the 911 attack"

..and on Nightline on ABC @ 11:35 pm pst
RE:

"We have no evidence that anybody high in the Clinton administration or the Bush administration did anything wrong," chairman Thomas Kean said in an interview with ABC's "Nightline" taped for airing Thursday night.
From:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/18/911.commission.ap/index.html

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(I dont think its onour regular MOJO on thursday nights at 10 anymore Terri! )

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#141384 - 12/19/03 10:18 AM Re: 10 member commission to report on 911 [Re: Aries]
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Thanks for posting this, Aries. And by the way I have missed you around here. Happy to see you back.

Those who thought the 9/11 commission was just going to be another "whitewash" by government have been proven mistaken by the comments of the commission chairman, Thomas Kean..." This is a very, very important part of history, and we've got to tell it right." So says Thomas Kean, chairman of the independent commission investigating the 9/11 attacks. Mr. Kean promises major revelations in testimony next month: "This was not something that had to happen."

Here is an article from the New York Times which states that in spite of what might be unpleasant regarding the events of 9/11, history must be told right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/19/opinion/19KRUG.html?th


Telling It Right
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: December 19, 2003


This is a very, very important part of history, and we've got to tell it right." So says Thomas Kean, chairman of the independent commission investigating the 9/11 attacks. Mr. Kean promises major revelations in testimony next month: "This was not something that had to happen." We'll see: maybe those of us who expected the 9/11 commission to produce yet another whitewash were wrong. Meanwhile, one can only echo his sentiment: it's important to tell our history right, not just about the events that led up to 9/11, but about the events that followed.

The capture of Saddam Hussein has produced a great outpouring of relief among both Iraqis and Americans. He's no longer taunting us from hiding; he was a monster and deserves whatever fate awaits him. But we shouldn't let war supporters use the occasion of Saddam's capture to rewrite the recent history of U.S. foreign policy, to draw a veil over the way the nation was misled into war.

Even the Iraq war's critics usually focus on the practical failures of the Bush administration's policy, rather than its morality. After all, the war came at a heavy cost, even before the fighting began: to prepare for the Iraq campaign, the administration diverted resources away from Afghanistan before the job was done, giving Al Qaeda a chance to get away and the Taliban a chance to regroup.

And while the initial invasion went smoothly, since then almost everything in Iraq has gone badly. (Saddam's capture would have been a smaller story if it had happened in the first flush of victory; instead, it was the first real piece of good news from Iraq in months.) The security situation remains terrible; the economy remains moribund; gasoline shortages and power outages continue.

To top it all off, the ongoing disorder in Iraq is a clear and present danger to our own national security. A large part of the U.S. military's combat strength is tied down in occupation duties, leaving us ill prepared for crises elsewhere. Meanwhile, overstretch is undermining the readiness of the military as a whole.

Now maybe, just maybe, Saddam's capture will start a virtuous circle in Iraq. Maybe the insurgency will evaporate; maybe the cost to America, in blood, dollars and national security, will start to decline.

But even if all that happens, we should be deeply disturbed by the history of this war. For its message seems to be that as long as you wave the flag convincingly enough, it doesn't matter whether you tell the truth.

By now, we've become accustomed to the fact that the absence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction - the principal public rationale for the war - hasn't become a big political liability for the administration. That's bad enough. Even more startling is the news from one of this week's polls: despite the complete absence of evidence, 53 percent of Americans believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11, up from 43 percent before his capture. The administration's long campaign of guilt by innuendo, it seems, is still working.

The war's more idealistic supporters do, I think, feel queasy about all this. That's why they lay so much stress on their hopes for democracy in Iraq. They're not just looking for a happy ending; they're looking for moral redemption for a war fought on false pretenses.

As a practical matter, I suspect that they'll be disappointed: the only leaders in Iraq with genuine popular followings seem to be Shiite clerics. I also wonder how much real commitment to democracy lies behind the administration's stirring rhetoric. Does anyone remember that Dick Cheney voted against a resolution calling for Nelson Mandela's release from prison? As recently as 2000 he defended that vote, saying that the African National Congress "was then perceived as a terrorist organization."

Which brings me to this week's other famous prisoner. While the world celebrated the capture of Saddam, a federal appeals court ruled that Jose Padilla must be released from military custody. Mr. Padilla is a U.S. citizen, arrested on American soil, who has been held for 18 months without charges as an "enemy combatant." The ruling was a stark reminder that the Bush administration, which talks so much about promoting democracy abroad, doesn't seem very concerned about following democratic rules at home.

Here is another article regarding the court rulings on Padilla and yet another blow to "would be dictators" of the Bush administration:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/19/national/19ASSE.html?th

Love And Merry Christmas, Connie
_________________________
Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous...Einstein

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#141385 - 12/19/03 11:51 AM Re: 10 member commission to report on 911 [Re: moonflower]
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Hi Connie, yes its nice to be on holidays and have some time to catch up on 'things'.

Your post gave me goosebumps.
I just mentioned on Terris post saturn is about to do its job, and we are going into some interesting times to say the least...

Lets HOPE all truth or as much as possible comes out now.
I suspect this will play into the poor mans negative second saturn return.

This will be an EXCELLENT lesson in progress for all astrologers, especially the beginners who are about to learn about the lessons of Saturn. I have been helping 'teach' a fellow soulmate traveller some astrology this last year and told him months ago.."watch the news carefully as saturn gets closer to 10 degrees in cancer and how it affects him" He didnt really believe me and it was cause for some err...debate

By the way, check the thread on star chat about his chart and the news of the last couple of days. Im going to post the latest now. (the chief WMD inspector MAY quit.)

..Bushy dont fear the Reaper

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#141386 - 12/19/03 12:06 PM Re: 10 member commission to report on 911 [Re: Aries]
Aries Offline
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ok I transfered that thread over to here instead.

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