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#143338 - 04/06/04 05:17 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Hello Jenn,
Fascinating..EROS has come up for me in Lexigrams quite a bit lately, as it is also ROSE..So it was you that did the Eros write up for the newsletter ..Was thinking to look for that weeks ago... as I printed it off.

Your sleuthing for the year 1882 was very important..Tesla, you saw a story on him, fantastic..Lucky you!! Well I became excited too about Tesla, after reading Star Signs. As not quite 2 years ago in my favourite Metaphysical Bookstore- Cosmic Pages, I noticed they had numerous books on him and copies of his inventions with diagrams.These were printed and stapled like magazines, there were so many different ones.I was on a time limit and picking up something else, but had a little while to browse through what was there.
Planning to go back soon, for sure. Also I finally just started reading Linda's Star Notes, and the bit about Tesla, after they refused to back him on the realisation that his work in this field would cause everyone "to milk the cow for Free" ..interesting about the angelic formation in a cloud..and he would electrocute himself, curious!!..
hmm! reminds me of a few months ago when driving into a storm. Unavoidable, and the Lightening was unreal. I was alone, the blackest clouds ever..Anyway this Lightening flash occured that scared me as well as left a sensation in my solar plexus and felt something happen in my brain.Sounds full on, but you've just made me remember this..Was sure the car was struck because of the sensations experienced..But my old car has a wooden steering wheel, and a rubber mat and pedals, so? ..no lightening strike has done that to me before, even when standing outside in a storm.

Uranus Glyph, yes the H, and the antenna's for T.V reception etc.
I read years ago the Universal Glyph would change after the year 2000, cant expand on that info, sorry, one of the older Astrologers Sydney Omarr maybe predicted this..?..

Skipping around Jenn, not at all...oh yes I love the Botticelli Painting: Venus born from the Foam, in a Sea Shell..

W-M they = E when turned on their sides..If the 3 mirrored, can be seen as E, and they (W&M) are each other as seen in a mirror. I guess W is E on its side, and the Mirror of M on its side is E, this is turning it to the right of course.. guess its all Relative, and can be done vice versa to mirror image a numeral 3, that would all be back to front & vice versa again when turning to the left..
So yep did ponder all this Jenn..



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#143339 - 04/06/04 06:28 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Higher Opti

That was really thoughtful of you to post the Hebrew-Chaldean Numerical Alphabet. But you think you have made mistakes..
Yes Ive discovered if you dont edit in a certain amount of time, you can no longer change your post..
There are some mistakes, yes I see, ooops!!

Quote by Optimystic..
"I can remind you that originally in Hebrew to SIN meant to FORGET!,and REPENT meant to REMEMBER!, the original Church Fathers lost this in translation because of their own obsession with Original Sin"

Thankyou for stating that. Yes it figures doesnt it!!
The second coming being synonomous with coming back to this awareness.To know this and you have WON.
You have done us a great service by your Presence here.

Also for posting some 17 value words.EARTH HEART GOLD.

The Rainbow Serpent is an Indigenous belief in Australia.
and the Venus transit of the 8th June representing the Plumed Serpent.

LOTUS - US LOT..
Buddha..I decided to get a Symbols Book of Buddhist Hand Gestures at Christmas.We had an hour to spare as we missed the start of the 3rd Lord of the Rings around New Years, so spent the time in a bookshop.Was reading about Buddha's chart, an Astrology info Book.But it was the Hand Gesture book that had me fascinated. Present to my S-elf..

Touching on Great Key words here Opti.
Glad we can all re-mind each other to tell more.

I made a post to Evy in another thread, to come and tell us more of her snake movement dance, as it interests me also.

So you have mentioned Jupiter 3 and Saturn 8
and they appear to be apparant opposites. 3+8=11.

Cant wait to find my book, as you have done many that I can recall, just on seeing..and Nirvana too

The Crown Chakra,do you think you can add anything in the Mother Goose thread on that?
Jonathan Livingstone Seagull..One not read by me..The Little Prince is quite a small book, oh you've read it so youd know that..
The sign of Aquarius glyph, has two wavy lines said to represent two serpents, the upper and lower you are referring to..and yes THREE is ETHER.
Came back to edit, so have added the Numerical Alphabet.

A=1............N=5
B=2............O=7
C=3............P-8
D=4............Q=1
E=5............R=2
F=8............S=3
G=3............T=4
H=5............U=6
I=1............V=6
J=1............W=6
K=2............X=5
L=3............Y=1
M=4............Z=7

thankyou once again
CD



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#143340 - 04/07/04 07:46 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Higher There Triple C

Thank you for reminding me of Mr Tesla,I Think&Feel that you are right on point and on path,with the E being The E-nrg of Electromagnetic or Electricity.Your also bang on about He Being LOVE and She Being LIGHT.They are of course two sides of the same Crown.

The 2in 1 or 2become1.Its no accident that Venus and Mars are conjunct most of this month.And for want of a better word I think we are all now feeling The Quickening

You mentioned in your Apostle;

`that something is really trying to come clear to me and it wont quite gel`

Sounds like you need a...AN-GEL&DEM-ON (As the children in my book state..An Angel is an Angle of Heavenly thought while a Demon is the Earthly Demon-strator of that thought (copyright2004)
So here`s a little Air Gel

ooOOPS,I cant seem to develope the skills to get the images down,So i`m gonna have to send it as an attachment on this A postle . Sorry but I`m still a `virgin` when it comes to computers!

Right your `Eagle` has landed with the `Air Gel` attached, I hope this helps you on your Quest.

Yours with Love in the Light&Knight
Opti


Know that we have all things in Common,for we are all ONE in The 1-Magi-Nation

Opti
(copyright2004)







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#143341 - 04/07/04 09:39 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Higher Triple C
I`ve just had a look at the attachment i`ve sent and it seems the first half is missing in action! .
I dont know how many rivers and mountains i`m gonna have to cross to get this to you,but you know what they say.."practice makes perfect" .
So here goes....
Ah Ha!Methinks Bill Gates better watch out,cos this little Gatekeeper is starting to a grip of this Tech1 . So Triple C, that other twin that got away is now safley attached.Enjoy
Yours with 10ve in The Light&Knight
pti
ps The part of your A b]POSTle that read...
`He (Nicola Tesla) thought he recieved a message from another world one night via electrical impulse.The message read ` One,Two,Three `!!! .Has made my year.THANK YOU! That was Cooooool.

"know that we have all things in common,for we are all ONE in THE 1-MAGI-NATION"
Opti(copyright2004)


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#143342 - 04/08/04 12:07 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Hello Jenn,
Was wondering if the show you saw explained why Tesla Electrocuted his body..We've read he conducted these sort of experiments..just wondering, after the lightening storm incident with me, as Im not saying it has changed me in anyway for the better, just felt accutely energised at the time, without suffering a Heart Attack

S over the sea by Marconi.

guess while the experimenters try to harness this energy for the good of the planet/free energy, in so using them S-elves, they may surely be aware as we as Humans also have the pOwer to execute such forces our S-elves, or indeed be central to the use of this power. Pick-up waves, transmit, receive, send healing energy. But when the finacial backers get wind of anything, such as milking the cow for free, we all loose out.Purple Plates we can thank Tesla for.Sort of shades of Einstien, splitting the atom.Tesla's discovery on electricity, all can be used for good or bad in the wrong hands, in the case of electricity, what a power mungrels game..as it can be saved up by power blackouts, then sold off...might go re-charge while to sun is still out!


CD

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#143343 - 04/08/04 12:55 PM E Words [Re: CRAZY DAISY]
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Hi
Have been thinking of ~E~ Words. So as LOVE is EVOL backwards
EVOLUTION came to mind..It is what this site is all about, making a Conscious Evolution~Effort to change our World here on EARTH. By changing our S-ELVES First.

EVOLUTION contains much: NOT VIOLENT NO LOVE IN VIOLENT ..VIOLET. Violet contains LOVE LET LIVEand also in EVOLUTION..TUNE.. LOVE TUNE.. EVOLUTION: TO TUNE INTO LOVE.ONE TUNE ONE LOVE.. ONE NOTE IN TONE.. TO TOIL IN LOVE
is TO UNTIE..LOVE LIGHT .. UNITE INTO ONE UNIT.After adding G for GOD
L for LOVE added to GOD gives US
GOLD each THREE Words containing within them, the Serpent Circle Mystery The O . The Snake eatings it's Own Tail Symbol.Also Golden Ring comes to mind..Wedding Banns?

This is a mixture of Linda's Lexigrams of course, and my first attempt to go in DEEP with this word.(playing with the Bold Text first time also )

EVOLUTION is an 8 Vibration word, and adds to 44, 26 has the same Meaning as the 44 and is the result of Two times 13.Only if the LOVERS or Mates in a 1 1 relationship are both spiritually Evolved High Enough,will they vibrate to the Number 13. As 8 represents the DOUBLE Serpent Mystery of Love.
From Linda Goodman's Love Signs.

Have a Happy EASTER Resurrection
EVEry 1


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#143344 - 04/09/04 04:33 PM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Hi Kids!

Opti, I like that new signature glyph!

I was able to open your first attachment--so that only shows it partially? I tried twice now to open the attachment on your last post but couldn't do it...

Have enjoyed all of the lively posts here and look forward to continuing as time allows.

Love,


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#143345 - 04/14/04 05:58 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Pat]
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..Higher There Pat

I would just like to thank you, and acknowledge, that you're first `Compassionate` Apostle was and is the necessary`Tap` , from which all of these other Apostle-Starseeds have beautifully flowed and flowered from, and shall continue to.

On your Apostle dated 27th March you rightly said that " timeing is everything " .And so I believe these Starseeds could not have flowered, as strong as they have, in any other season than when the lovers of Venus&Mars conjoin(conjunct) in the Twins-Souls of Gemini...as they are now, were and will be for most of this month .And we still have the Reign of a rare Venus Transit to come and water our Seeds!. .You truly are a Water Bearer! .

Methinks, Mother Goose may well have also been a bit of a farmer in her time...don't you think? .

.It is said that the work of the good hearted and well intentioned human is always in divine harmony with the work of the Earth Devas. So know that your Apostle of Love could not have been Starseeded on any other date than the 21st Feb 2004.This is why your Apostle `Crowns` the top of this Silken Thread, and why I have faith that this thread will live on....well after we have all gone.

And even if, the internet crashes, and some future Cyber Archaeologists have to Dig-ital for days!! , to reach US, in some distant future. I Feel this Thread will live on...in some shape or form....of Light.
Actually when you think&feel about it....this whole thread, site internet is ALL Powered and Upheld by Light.(E-lec-tri-city...Triangular City of Light?...maybe not quite the fabled city of light as spoken of in Revelations with its streets of gold and pavements of crystal clear glass...can`t quite remember the exact wrods right now...but I think you get the picture : )".HE is LOVE...SHE is LIGHT "....The 2are1....I N R I=In Our Eye.(ie, I N R I was placed above JC on the Cross, nuff said)

A big big statement I know, but certain words, phrases and books become Immortal when sealed and protected with The Power of Love . The past has already shown this to be true, especially when sung by Mid-wives and Loved by Children......of Light!:).And like those great nursery rhymes have shown ...if we keep life Simple and Loving...we Live...for Ever.

You will note Pat, that the whole d.o.b of your Compassionate APOSTle also reduces to the powerful Master number of 11, so there is no doubt in my Heart and Mind on this.

On closer inspection this Crown Apostle Thread is full of The Power of Three. Starting off with yours on the 21st,there are some blatant...some hidden.
,
For example, as regards registration to C.E. Piscesdreamer`s whole d.o.b(9th October 2000),reduces to 21=3!, Crazydaisy`s d.o.b is the 3rd July 2OO1,
Writeon who gave my first major Apostle a piggy-back!, when i was having difficulty, has a whole d.o.b(6th May 1999)that reduces to 12=3!.
.And Triple Cardinals name is self-evident!: ).
And then there`s me or my `image`,ie,3
.I`m sure there`s more I`ve missed but the Third Energy is I Feel, HARMONICALLY CONCORDANT throughout this Rainbow Thread.

Blue Doves Apostle(Dated 3rd April) notes that "It seems as if you have all been brought together at the same time with similar stirrings of enlightenments.....and I could`nt help but wonder at the timeing of the soon to be transit of Venus on 8TH June 2004".
This is quite perceptive of her, however looking at it from my side of the Pond, the profound date may be the 9th June 2004,has this whole date reduces to the Crown 21=3.

But I have to thank Blue Dove for shareing the revelation that the last time this happened was in 1882....which led Triple C, and in turn the rest of us, to a very profound and enlightened being in the form of Nicola Tesla for whom the Venus Transit of 1882 had a big impact concerning his life and work.

So this year should well live on in our personal and collective memorys, for reasons as yet not quite revealed...or fully understood.

So Pat maybe LG (or some other) is Smiling down on this golden thread:), for she in turn was led to this man and seemed to be profoundly affected by his life and work also.

Time (and maybe no-time: ) will tell.But I think we all need to go back to this mans life and study it, if only to give us a clue to the energies and patterns of this coming Venus Transit. Becouse Everyone will be affected not just us on this site.

In principle I understand Nicola Tesla, however I must admit that the technical side of his work probably goes way beyond my limits of understanding. That side needs to be `dumbed down `for the likes of me. However Pat, I think Triple C, gave us some good bite-size pieces to munch on till we can do some home work for ours-elfs. such as;

"His studies of lightning;transmission of real power from one place to another...the air breaks down and conducts electricity as a wire would"

But what I do know is that Pure Unconditional Love is given as freely to us, as Nicola Tesla wanted to give us, Humanity, Free Energy(has Triple C reminded us....".HE is LOVE,SHE is LIGHT")And so we should not be charged for light and left in the dark if we refuse...we should be` Charged` by the Light!!!...of Love!!!

The Sun, Moon and Stars in the Heavens do not ask for a fee, So why on Earth are we paying....on Earth ,for that which in Heaven is Free!?. This kind of thing only reminds me of why I don't vote or get involved with politics.(Poll-tricks! ...The face changes but the Suite and ties(that binde)are the same!!. I better stop, before I start to get upset.: (

Triple Cardinals quote above has reminded me of what the Chinese call `Dragon Paths`. These are ley lines that traverse the land and air of the Earth .And I`ve always been fond of the winged variety, which it seems Nicola Tesla was harnessing. It is said that the tradition of Royalty walking on a red carpet stems from the fact that in China, only the emperor was allowed to walk on these ley lines, which were distinguished by strips of red satin or cloth.
It would seem that the `emperors` of the world are still trying to keep these paths to themselves.!

Well Pat, I think&feel `their` days are numbered.....for We have safety in Numbers!....and We know our Path cos we`ve checked the Math!!!

Thanks again Pat, with a Biggg Huggg:) ...your "Heart Patturns" are strong ...and long may this Golden Thread Live and All who Sail in Her.

Yours with Love in The Light&Knight
pti....Mum...Love







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#143346 - 04/14/04 09:03 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Nicola Tesla"Born just before midnight 9th-10 July 1856 in Smiljan(Yugoslavia)45.00 Degree North,15.00 Degree East.Died 7th Jan 1943.Aries Ascendent 29.14 degrees Aries.
Scientist who emigrated to the USA and is known for his far reaching research on weather modification,instruments for interplanetary contact and other very important discoveries on which present interstellar research is based.The USSR accepted his findings when US scientists did not recognise his genius.He died in great poverty.

See Prodigal Genius,the life of Nicola Tesla by John J.O`Neill (1944) and Tesla,Man Out of Time by Margaret Cleney (1981,Dell-New York)"

Hellen&Willem Koppejan
30th Degree Aries
The Cardinal Signs

Supplied serendipiously by my `Teachers` Helen&Willem Koppejan.taken from there Cardinal Signs Trilogy.I am a student of Grail astrology and with their `help` have been studying the inner&outer meanings of all the individual 360 degrees of what we call the `Round Table`.

With the Invisible Center of this `Table(`Zodiac)being the 13th sign(which is Christ),ie,the whole 360 degrees combined.Or what i affectionately call Owl Vision married with Knight Vision. Anyway my knight vision realised, that Mercury ,if i remember corrctly is in the 29/30th Degree of Aries today,which in the great Divine Equilibrium of life turns out to be the degree of Nicola Tesla`s Ascendent sign!! .

I`ve been studying this for 8 to 9 years now,and I am Thawed into Awe everytime. As there is a "Divine Cosmic Harmony underlying and upholding everything we do.It cannot really be fully transmitted to another...only experienced over a long period of time and learning.

Which is why, the Ancients claimed those "who know do not speak".But I am of the belief that it can be sung! Poets get pretty close too.Expressing this Divine Harmony,which is why all PROPHETS have been Secret POET`S! ....which is why Humanity has all-ways...PROFITED...from them ...and this Divine Harmony...is OUR MONEY!. ... and True Wealth....and nothing more should be desired....when this is....KNOWN...in ones HEART (copyright2004,N.A.Simpson)

(I state the above in tribute to Nicola Tesla and his work,becouse in my mind and Heart and in others,he did`nt `die` and neither did he die in `poverty`.He was and is more wealthy than most who think themselves `rich`.Nuff
said.)

Yours with Love in The Light&Knight

pti...Mum...Love
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#143347 - 04/14/04 10:56 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Hi Opti,

Wow there is just so much to say. . . Irony of ironies here: it has been part of my life journey to work for 2 power companies in my life-- Electric power & oil. . . temp jobs as I worked for my BA. . . .It always blew my mind that I was working there, me, who believes and has always believed that energy should be free-- an inalienable right. . . I used to have to feed the company line to those poor souls who could not pay their power bills, telling them it was just too bad, pay up or freeze. . . I would feel sick to heart doing this. . .and yet, so that I could pay my OWN power bills. . . had to.

Oil is 50 times worse than electricity. . . These people even when their "bills" are paid in full still have to rely on the trucks to arrive with timely deliveries. . . oh the panic in the voices of those waiting for a delivery, watching for the truck, watchingtheir gauges reach 0. . .

Reminds me of the emotional lives of so many on the planet today: "Will there be enough love can I afford this feeling, what will I have to pay, what will it cost me. . ."

Energy should be free. . .heat and light should be free. . .
At any rate, the profits of the energy business should not be going into the pockets of the few and leaving the rest to scramble. . .

I feel this issue to be of vast importance and I think I was "placed" to work in those power companies in order to learn more about the whole deal. . . .

Funny, Opti, that you're book is from the Cardinal Press. . . tie in with my screen name, so glad to be able to bring that info to the TABLE. . .at just the right time.
Lately I feel a wee bit knocked off the grid, myself and out of time. . .so if I managed a synchro, then go me!!!

Elec-tri-city. . . Amazing!

I think I amgoing to read up on Tesla in prep for this June's Venus Transit. . . Venus will turn retrograde at 26 Gemini, opposed the Galactic Center, also directly opposed my Natal Venus & Mercury at 24-26 Sag, conjunct the Galactic Center. . . So I have a feeling I will be feeling this bigtime, personally. . .Should be interesting to note the feel of the day Mars touches 26 Sag. . .precursor to Venus's arrival. . . at least, I suspect it should be. . .

Coming up so soon, within the next few weeks. . . wow. . . is it already mid-April? How did that happen?

Thank you for the graphics you sent, Opti-- I still don't see what it all MEANS. . . but am overawed by the predominance of 3 energy. . . 3 relates to Jupiter in astrology does it not? Expansion? Evolution? I mean Jupiter is the one who says GO further, right? You can, you can, you can. . . that's Jup, right?

Jupiter must relate somehow, if 3 is so important. . .

I have a really prominent Jupiter in my birthchart-- I have never been able to figure out exactly what it represents: It is in my 9th house ( its natural house) at 0 Cancer-- ( exalted in Cancer, also at Cardinal point 0) exactly conjunct my Moon in Cancer, ( so, in its Home Sign, at the 0 cardinal point). . . in the 9th. . . Opposing my Sun, Mercury & Venus in the 3rd. . . Venus & Mercury are in Sag but the Sun is at 3 Cap. . . However, Jupiter and the Moon make up the pointy part of a kite in my chart, created out a grand trine between Sun/Merc/Venus and Chiron in Taurus and Saturn in Virgo. . . all within a couple degrees tightness. . .

So I am pretty excited to see how Venus turning retrograde at that 26 Sag point might affect me personally. . . .

But also collectively because 26 Sag is the Galactic Center , also the Rising degree of Chiron's discovery chart-- the Rainbow Bridge. . . Healing on a large scale. . .

Of course, the eclipse doesn't happen at 26 degrees, but that's the the degree that Venus turns rex at, so all will not be complete until she gets back to that point again. . .after turning direct. . .

I must look up when that will be, exactly. . . .

Thanks for SO much inspiration, and all of it coming together so beautifully in time. . .


Jennifer








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#143348 - 04/14/04 10:18 PM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Hi Im hoping Jenn that you havnt taken the comment I made about the Power Company dudes to Heart, as your last post has revealed part of your life's journey has been to work for electricity and oil companies.Oh boy did I feel dumb earlier, and that this statement has shot an arrow your way-foot in mouth disease.Hoping this is not the case, it didnt occur to me till after I went for a walk, that this may have not been the best point to make..and now you've said what you do for a Job...How hard to deal with the public at the financial level. ..been wondering if I said something wrong for days!!!.

My comment made because our Electricity company was Privatised..bills went up 30%.
refusing to use the electric kettle became my obsession, as Im a pyro anyway, so enjoyed the fires to boil water.


Just a Thoht everyone.
Didn't the Dinosaurs run on electrical impulses?
Arn't we third dimensional beings, cast by a 4th dimensional soul, and Higher and Higher this goes?

Jupiter-3.The placement being important in everyONES charts.Expansiveness Knowledge Philosophical Thought, To be Jovial and Optimistic.The 9th house. Foreign Travel-Religion, Higher Journies of the mind, and also by Dreams.Big list-missed some..It's symbol made up of the half circle of soul, and the cross of matter.

anyway guess Im out of synch with the synchronicity.
and the city holds the Tesla Books.
Just posting what comes to mind.Not sure if I can add anymore to this thread now, as Im stating the Obvious.
catch you all when ever...


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#143349 - 04/15/04 08:54 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: CRAZY DAISY]
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Hey Jenn,

Troy and I just watched a documentary on Tesla a few days ago. I've always been fasinated by him myself from first hearing of him in Linda's Star Signs , and then reading more about him in the first issue of the Word Magazine .

What a visionary man he was, who also wanted to do things for the right reasons. His story alway leaves me feeling so angry... that things turned out the way they did. Energy should be free!
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#143350 - 04/15/04 10:02 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Hello again,

Opti, I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw your aPOSTle about INRI because for over a week now I have been waiting for the time to get back here so I could ask if anyone can tell me about this while I start looking into it. It was a combination of all the lightning images/runes/ancient symbols, this was NEXT.

This shows me how One-Minded we are and are becoming with this thread. I can still feel a pull of intense energy here and am certain there will be some thunder and lightning bolts and discoveries to follow.

Loved your words about this thread, and how it will live on.
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We are golden,
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#143351 - 04/15/04 10:02 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Piscesdreamer]
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Higher There Pd

Its good to be able to finally get back to you, even tho I am conscious of writing to all of you simultaneously, its still good to say High and send a Biggg Huggg! J.And also answer certain points regarding our Apostles.
I`ve been replying to some Apostles , and finally coming full circle, to thanking Pat for allowing us to drink from her fountain.....or should that be font!J.For without her Apostle and your Apostles reaction to it, I don't think I would have dismounted long enuff to appreciate the smell of the flowers here. Obviously with hindsight, we can now see and feel, that some things are just meant to be....4 a time.

" I cannot choose the colours HE(LOVE)works it steadily...In the Pattern HE has planned"

I understand the doubt in your voice, when I imply that I personally accept limits. But let me put it to you, simply, this way. My `Big O` post to you, would not have given you as much joy as it did, if it had not landed on your Twins birthdayJ....do you think I planned that!?....Nope.I can See...yes....but not that clearly!!!

I know my destiny and I know what I have to do, my limits are that I don't know everything!.....just enuff to be getting on withJ. Therefore PD, I accept my limits, which in turn allows me to ask for help. A lot of this` help` is invisible(but becoming more visible by the day), but it is help nonetheless.

"My life is but a Weaving...."

If I`m left to my own device`s for 2 long, I`ve learnt that I don't seem to Harmonize aswell, as when I accept I do have limits(on this stage&in this stage of my life). I tried to post before the 31st, (30th),but my limited knowledge of computing was giving me problems. So I wrote to The BarronessJ,ie, Writeon, and asked for help.....and so my Big O Apostle hitched a piggy-back ride on the back of her Compassion.....and so we flew in and landed WRITE:)N TIME!, it would seem.


Getting back to Pat, I feel the whole theme of Pats thread and the threads thereafter have, in essence, been about Twins....From Pats Deeep&Loving Thoths.... on the Healing and Bridging of the Twins..... of Compassionate-Heart & Logical- Mind...to your own awakening& realisation that;

"there is work to do within Ourself....,which is the beginning...."

But secondary to this going within first, you felt also that this balancing of male&female energies/aspects,
could also be helped by;

"....meditating with and through another or others, to help one
another learn and understand more truly and completely..."


I agree ,However, you carry on to say that even the Wise Being of Linda Goodman and her Twin, even after having met, lost each other, because at that time even...

....."they could not see a way to reconcile the masculine and feminine
essences....that old wall of separation kept them from truly blending
in Oneness"

At this point they obviously (amongst other things) both still had Inner work to do FIRST. In order that the Energy of their Inner life could flow out properly into their outer life...harmonising the Two.(In2...3!)
You then write next about what LG discovered concerning a way thru that would help towards `unlocking` this separation she was up against;

"And that serpent circle, the serpent eating its own tail, was the symbol
of the key to understanding the mystery of blending the masculine and the
feminine into a perfect and harmonious One".

I agree! becouse this Path of going Within first, is essential, and naturally leads, to a better understanding and Union, with that which is Without. Or put another way our Inner and Outer life become harmonised. This is the principle of the Mobius Strip which deserves studying, because this is also the principle at work in the Circle of The Ouroboros and in Life&Love itself.
(WJW!, I actually spelt the Big O right this time! .."Alas simple things please simple minds".....said Simple Simon...or was it Homer Simpson that said that!? ) .



I had already ` unlocked` this myself with the help of my Higher s-elf, when I read the above. For one has to first go Within. (like how the Caterpillar gains its wings to become a Butterfly!J.....The Butterfly Effect....I note that Hollywood is imitating/reflecting life again. As this is also the title of a new movie. I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know how much it relates to this, if at all. But I love the Title&Poster!J). So one has to reconcile the `twins` within first before one can even think about dealing with any outer twin. There are millions, maybe billions of people yearning and wishing to meet their `Other`, when really their `other` is always with them, within them and surrounding them!.And so there is a very serious "illusion of separation" going on in the minds of Humanity.

"One might speak of the finding of the Twin-Soul ,but these people may be
the Two in One. The outer search for the Twin is the projection of their
inner life into another person, which is the fatal split in Gemini. They have
to learn to find it all within themselves."
1ST Degree Gemini

The following esoterically Sums up the my simple equation of W + M = 3(ie,LoveHeart,the Christos)

" The Symbol of the Man and Woman share one Heart and one bloodstream.
There head is female and male in one androgynous. The left brain and right
brain have `married `together. There is perfect co-operation within this mind .
These `Siamese` twins are a synthesis of the dualism in the present humanity..."
1st Degree Pisces

The following esoterically speaks of what I will refer to in a future book as The Twelfth Knight Secret;

"....The essence of Pisces is the completion of the Zodiac and this twelfth 1st Degree
shows how the curse of the first couple in Paradise has been lifted, and how there is
now no enmity between male and female. Dane Rudhyar speaks of a `seed synthesis
at the end of a cycle`.....Thus primeval thoughts and ideas return to their own synthesis
,after having been split into two. In each dualism in our untransmuted world is one at
war with each other member, fighting for pre-eminence."
1st Degree Pisces
Helen&Willem Koppejan
The Mutable Signs
Element Books

.. From the above you can see why I have a need to simplify this for the children.We are talking deep waters indeed here.And its one thing reading and maybe understanding the above to a certain extent.But to KNOW it
and Experience the above Esoteric Wisdom and principles,in ordinary everyday life as taken me years and then more years to find ways of revealing it, in a grounded but enlightened and fun way....and I`m still not done. But the recent Harmonic C....has led me to See....that the time is now.....now won....and now One.

PD,I am only able to Think.Feel and Do what I do because am a 2in1... And I have paid high `prices` that have ryhmed with sacrifices along the way.....but such is the way of Love....But one tip I will give you is this, that no matter what may come...never ever sacrifice your sense of Human,oooOOOps,I mean Humour! All-ways look on the bright side of life...and if that fails...and darkness falls....then just develop some serious knight Vision!J....STEVIE does`nt WONDER cos he KNOWS what I`m talking about!!!

Mine is a strange story for I found out, that in my case there never was an outer Twin!(In this life anyway),for I had already met and joined with mine in a previous life(we`d died together)and so have come back as one in this life...and so my `Other` is ALL-WAYS with me..But in Essence this is True for Everyone...regardless of weather they have met and joined or not. Sounds like a paradox does`nt it?. Well all I can say is Trust in Love and in (no)time that it is`nt.

To meet and join, is apparently the goal of all Twins still split into two bodies. I was kinda shocked at first, because I`d kinda conditioned myself to find my `Other` `out there` one day. But after this realisation and certain experiences that made it clear to me that this was not the case. I am now reconciled and have no desire to find my` Twin`. I have always had the the ability to be alone without feeling lonely. Unlike many I know. However, and you may find this strange, considering what I`ve just said. But I still have relationships and am single now, but the relationships I have now, are what I can only describe as `Karmic`in essence. Its quite hard to find the words to describe them, so I wont!J.But I often say to people that my life is my wife!J.

Anyway PD, enuff of Methree. Here is a little Tale....i wrote off the top of my head...Last knight;

And So , along came a Winged Serpent down the Tree of Life(Kabbalah) whom regurgitated to LG that same Old Tale, That long,long ago(when Adam was`nt looking or listening) he had told to Eve. And LG like Eve before her,
`Swallowed` the Tale...Holy(Whole). And in that moment, LG realised as did Eve before her, that anything of Great Worth would Entail a Great Sacrifice of some kind. The price would be high but the rewards even Higher.

You`ll see PD, that if one looks at many of the great people who have brought great things to Humanity, they have often had to suffer and sacrifice a great deal in order to Help and Heal a sick Humanity. LG had great joy in her life but she also endured great suffering....Bless her SOUL&SPIRIT.

TRUE LOVE AND COMPASSION OFTEN KNOWS THAT IT MAY BE `BURNED AT THE STAKE`
IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES
TO BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE
LOVE&LIGHT INTO OUR(HeartEarth) CORE

Abraham Lincoln....knew this
Martin Luther King....Knew this
Mandela knew....knew this
Diana Knew....
Gandi knew....
Tesla knew....
Jesus wept....for the list is long...longer than...we shall probably ever know...But we continue and strife to FORGIVE&LOVE ANYWAY. It is the way of the Wounded Healer, WHO IS HEALED IN THE ACT OF HEALING OTHERS.

But as that Wise Serpent pointed out we cannot and would not `die`. Love is Eternal and like some of the children of Light above, we know too that we must carry on and Love and show true compassion to the many ignorant and brutish people that we may meet on our own paths of light.They are the ones that need our love&forgiveness the most, We have to always think positive but this has to be grounded and reconciled with the negative within and without.

The CJSMIC JESTER SAYS;
The Christian says to the Buddhist;"WE ONLY GET ONE LIFE,YOU KNOW"
Buddhist replies to the Christian."I KNOW!"

There is a level of awarness that rises high above the opposites of what is called Good and Evil, positive and negative,light and dark. For to be caught in the battle of duality is trap.

HERE IS A "TRIUNITY" of OVERSTANDING, THAT DOES NOT SPLIT THE WORLD INTO GOOD OR BAD,ENLIGHTENED AND UNENLIGTHTENED AND DARK AND LIGHT OR MALE AND FEMALE. BUT THAT LIKE A RAINBOW, OVERARCHES, PROTECTS AND LOVES ALL SIDES.FOR DO WE NOT ALL BREATH THE SAME AIR!!!.TO SPLIT YOUR EARTH,YOUR WORLD AND YOUR FAMILY IS TO SPLIT YOURSELF.

This level of wisdom cannot be transmitted fully using language ,Logic or Intuition alone. For even this can be a trap to the unwary. I mention all this, to point out that it is not just a fluffy or cosy path that Linda Goodman followed, it was her own Power of Love and Compassion and the help of others that helped to softened it so.
(Copyright2004.N.A.Simpson)

Yours with Love in The Light&Knight

PTI.....MUM....LOVE


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"Those Who Know Do Not Speak"..."Know they write,SING,DANCE&SIGN Language,ect...98%Of CommUnication is Non-Verbal...Go figure(8)-By Dr A.G. ON(N.A.S,Copyright2005)

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#143352 - 04/15/04 10:17 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Hello again,
I have to post in bits and pieces today while I go back and forth from here to the world.

Back to you Optimystic,
Just to let you know I am still with you all on the powers here, the E's and 3's, am feeling the Third Energy also. Just read a wild novel Triple C recommended, "Still Life with Woodpecker" by Tom Robbins written in the 1980's, concerning the power of love, pyramids, and many other things. Felt compelled to get that "Angels & Demons" and am just starting it, already wow, and another novel "Mary Called Magdalene" by Margaret George. Was temporarily sidetracked from Mother Goose, in time only but not in mind, and she is not forgotten.

I hadn't responded yet that your MW drawings were quite interesting and I will ponder them. I had done some different MW drawings after reading DaVinci Code and will have to dig them out again-- it will be interesting to see if they parallel yours in any way... ?

Love,
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We are golden,
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden..."


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#143353 - 04/15/04 10:23 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Three grins for Opti,
Well I thought my first post of 9:02 got lost, and I see you were posting to me at 9:02... now that's one mindedness!!!!!

Now that I've let you know you just freaked me out I'll get back to reading the thread.
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And we've got to get ourselves
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#143354 - 04/15/04 11:50 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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This summer at Niagara Falls I was surprised to see a giant statue of Tesla, seated. A sweet young Rastafarian type man was admiring the statue along with me and he seemed surprised that I knew how great Tesla was. He then lifted my son and his two cousins up high to sit on Tesla's lap.

I agree that the science is way over my head, even though for some reason I keep getting physics-related knowledge in bits and pieces passed to me. I was just about to do a search and print the table of elements as soon as I got the opportunity, and then I read at the beginning of Angels & Demons that among the eclectic collection in the murder victim's study was a table of the elements. (That's not where the INRI came in, that was from last week.)

No, my approach to knowledge will not be via the scientific angle, it has to be from the angle of True Love, which is what I feel is my purpose to study. Of course the twain shall meet.

However there is so much left to study. Not without a purpose or end in sight though, not to just spin in circles; it's not ONLY about the journey, it's about the destination...we need not deny it forever.

By the way I LOVE all the knight and Round Table talk!

Okay, more reading.

Love,

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We are golden,
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden..."


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#143355 - 04/15/04 11:54 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Piscesdreamer]
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PS I forgot to say that when I first read of Tesla from LG, I was sad that perhaps his knowledge had 'died' with him...but that was before I knew that everything he thought and created that is true is eternal and so still accessible.
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We are golden,
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#143356 - 04/15/04 01:15 PM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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More for Opti,

You say: I understand the doubt in your voice, when I imply that I personally accept limits. But let me put it to you, simply, this way. My `Big O` post to you, would not have given you as much joy as it did, if it had not landed on your Twins birthdayJ....do you think I planned that!?....Nope.I can See...yes....but not that clearly!!!

Dearest Opti, sorry you felt doubt from me Not doubting you, just sharing of ideas. Rather I have nothing but faith in you as a truth seeker/seer. Yes, I see where this world is one of physical limits as we have perceived it. It's just that lately I've been getting the message that these are what we are here to transcend, and not by renouncing the physical, but MAN-ifesting into physical experience what is of pure thought and spirit. Miracles are always counter to physical 'laws'. Miracles are our purpose until such time as miracles are no longer needed to teach unity.

By the way without knowing it you just did it again like the day of twin's birthday. This time you highlighted the Mercury transit past 29 degrees of Aries, exactly conjunct his natal Venus rx.

Oh, I feel so limited too! Except as you say, I then remember I can ask for help. That's why this is such a great thread. Alone we would be so limited, so it's great that we're all-one. The journey is becoming more enjoyable!

The Barronness Maria you must love that! Well, I had figured from your post of March 1, + 30 days would be March 31, so I felt your timing was exactly right!

You say re Linda and twin: At this point they obviously (amongst other things) both still had Inner work to do FIRST. In order that the Energy of their Inner life could flow out properly into their outer life...harmonising the Two.(In2...3!)

I completely agree Opti, the work must be done within FIRST. But THEN...there IS more after that. After that you have to see if you learned the lessons. So, we go back and forth to and from the drawing board... but it's so nice that the reward will be a harmonious Oneness. So much better than 100 or 4.0 or A+ or E-xcellent.

Continued quotes from your post: You then write next about what LG discovered concerning a way thru that would help towards `unlocking` this separation she was up against;

"And that serpent circle, the serpent eating its own tail, was the symbol
of the key to understanding the mystery of blending the masculine and the
feminine into a perfect and harmonious One".

Yes, and I THINK this means that it is time to start finding the keys to unlocking the gates that have kept MF separate all this time. There can be no H-appiness (of the Third Energy kind) until both the M and the F are equally Happy and in Harmony. Ancient fears of losing oneSelf in 'another' have kept MF from truly loving each other. So instead we made a power struggle. Glad we're getting tired of that! On to the Big O!

Ha ha Simple Simon Simpson... well, no doubt we'll get around to discussing Simple Simon here, but probably on another thread.

Please let us know as soon as your book is published. I am sure it will be a gift to all children. I look forward to my son (11) reading it.

And now Opti, I am going to ponder for quite a while on what you wrote about twin souls and 2in1. Quite a while. I think I understand what you are saying very clearly and that I'm in synch... Thanks for what you wrote, it means a lot to me that you shared that. Not end of discussion! Sacrifice, willingness... yes, I will be returning for more lovely and lively conversation.

As far as 'twin soul', I had never really thought of what that means until shortly before the time in 2000 that I found this site...still learning. I was thinking about this twin stuff a lot more at the beginning of this year after which I noticed how the zodiac wheel, the symbol of each sign, could represent the journey of 'twins' from Oneness back to Oneness, and wrote it on Proxymoon's Venus thread at World Community. Did you see that?

Well I have to go for today and haven't even caught up on this one thread yet, but will stay in touch. It was great to hear from you and everyone else here.

Love,
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We are golden,
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden..."


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#143357 - 04/15/04 11:40 PM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Piscesdreamer]
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Hello
glad Opti pointed out that the spelling of Ouroboros was correct in the previous post.
silly me copied the first spelling, ..

Miracles are always counter to physical 'laws'..yes PD.
The miracle of 2=1..me thinks so.!!
PD's comment..
Ancient fears of losing oneSelf in 'another' have kept MF from truly loving each other...

The male lost in the female rule, the female lost in the male rule.

PS. Dear Opti. So what are you saying, SHE Swallowed (eat/ate) HIS Tail?









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#143358 - 04/16/04 08:36 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: CRAZY DAISY]
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Hi CD,

Oh my-- No I most certainly didn't think you put your foot in your mouth. . .:) Speaking as a person who pretty much lives with her foot in up to her knee, I can understand how you might have thought that, though & I should have clarified that I wasn't defending against what you wrote but whleheartedly agreeing with it. . .
Working with power companies has taught me a lot of stuff about how the current system works. . . BUt its not by any stretch my career. . . I worked temp positions there to get through University. . . and even if it was my career. . . I still wouldn't be offended. . . I agree wholeheartedly. . . the current system was built in an old energy of fear & energy hoarding . . . and capitalism without compassion. . .

So everyone's feet are accounted for, here, I would say. . .

Jenn
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#143359 - 04/16/04 08:27 PM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Hi Jenn
you know I didnt think it at first, but went for a walk.Im really thinking about E words and Electricity, thinking how extraordinary that you should work for the power companies, and also posting on Tesla.Then got back to my thohts on Bills, the probs my friends have had, and blam it dawned on me..So wast just checking, talking for the sake of talking!. .take one foot out and replace it with the other one!
came across this earlier, dropped in to post it..


Josseph The Star*Watcher
**********************
All times are Mountain Time

Friday -- April 16, 2004
Vol XXVII
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


The Moon is moving in the dark in Pisces.
It makes one major aspect and that's in the morning at a quarter 'til 9,
when it squares Pluto in Sagittarius, which is an antisocial aspect.
After that the Moon is void of course until it arrives in Aries at 10:40 tonight.
This makes Friday a bit haphazard and unpredictable.
There is a powerful conjunction at 7,
but it's the conjunction of the Aries Sun and Mercury,
which is retrograding between the earth and the Sun.
This affects the electrical atmosphere and it has a gravitational effect.
So weird and unusual things could happen.
Wild winds can blow and the earth may even shake in some places.
****************************


Funny was thinking of LG's words yesterday.."The wind blows wherever it wishes, if that is what your wish is".

CD


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#143360 - 04/17/04 08:12 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: CRAZY DAISY]
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Interesting CD!

Just coming by for a quickie post this morning, but want you all to know I will be working on a kind of long response to this thread as time allows.

First:
Just to add one more dimension to the 3 and E energy, I wanted to write what was in the Book of Runes on the third rune:
Thurisaz meaning giant in germanic and norse and meaning thorn in old english
corresponds to Thor
rune looks like a thorn projecting from a stem of a bramble or wild rose, means protection or obstacle
(Sleeping Beauty in castle surrounded by a forest of thorns)
Thurisaz reps. a barrier that cannot be easily surmounted. ... Both thorns and giants act as obstacles to the vain and foolhardy. ... Only courage or humility will help. ... retrace steps and work around the problem, or summon up a heroic effort worthy of the mighty Thor and fight your way through. In the latter case, you must face up to your own shortcomings with courage and honesty and humble change your path. This self-evaluation will allow unlimited progress.
Mars corresponds with Thurisaz
The animal that corresponds to Thurisaz is the snake.

Don't know if this is helpful in meditating on 3, but it resonates with me as being what it's like to go deep.

The 13 rune is Eihwaz, with a phonetic value between e and i, it was seldom used
It looks like a backwards Z or lightning bolt
Meaning is yew tree, emblem of immortality
Assoc. with deity Odin and the yew tree for its characteristics... fast-rootedness makes it invulnerable to storms.
It is a magic wand that gives power over life and death...
It relates to spiritual attainment, Scorpio, Earth

I skipped over a lot of details so if you'd like more I can add...

Love,
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We are golden,
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Back to the garden..."


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#143361 - 04/17/04 08:20 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: optimystic]
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Hello Opti,

Sorry to be in such a rush today so I can't respond to your last post at length quite yet. For now just want you to know your Biggg Huggg was much appreciated!

One observation on your M + W = 3 ...
If you put your M and W together so they touch with the M over the W, you get two diamonds.
If you blend them so that the top of the M and W are aligned, you get a third diamond.

Love,
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We are golden,
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden..."


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#143362 - 04/17/04 08:31 AM Re: Healing Mother Earth [Re: CRAZY DAISY]
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Higher There CD&PD

CD you asked me a while back, if I could add to the Mother Goose thread, mmMM, well my knowledge is a little limited on that....at the moment. Besides you two are doing a fine `Sherlock` on that anyway.....I`ll just make like `Watson` on that for the moJ. It sometimes helps to step back...and allow the Universe time...to shine some light on the proceedings and bring other bits of the `puzzle` into view.
However, I can help you two, by shedding some light on that old nursery rhyme of Jack and Jill.

But before I do , I`d just like to jump back to Pd`s Apostle dated 3rd April(06:55am).PD I too am studying the Kabbalah and the technique of Gematria, and agree with what you had to say as regards ;

" The Serpent who tempted Eve in the Garden is the Messiah"
James Wasserman

I like this because it turns the usual `conditioning`on its head by using a word like` tempted` in a positive light, as apposed to the usual one-side negative connotations that we habitually assign or `project` onto words. However, I would have said `a Messiah` rather than `the Messiah`. As people are conditioned to think of JC when they hear that word. Which can be misleading and quite upsetting for some devout Christians who don't understand the word `Messiah`outside of the JC context.Which is bared out by the next quote from your aPOSTle;

" This exmple should help to demonstrate why the study of the Kabbalah
was reserved in an esoteric manner, so that students could be guided by
more experienced and wiser adepts. It should also help to clarify the
position of secrecy within the overall Occult tradition. Information can
be dangerous without the guidance and direction needed to interpret
and comprehend it. All the disciplines discussed in this book have at
one time or another been deeply shrouded in secrecy"
James Wasserman

We have of course, in these days freedom of speech without fear of being burnt at the stake. In fact it is said that up to two and half million women, men and children(mostly women....they all shall never be forgotten) were killed across Europe alone by the Church when trying to maintain its position as "Gods representative on Earth". So it is perfectly understandable the level of secrecy and fear that was built up surrounding this kind of study. But yes, J Wassermann is right, this kind of information can become dangerous when unguided. However, PD, I note that J.Wasserman does not use the Chaldean/Hebrew system. So if only to avoid any potential confusion in, the future I suggest that we stick to one system, the system advocated by LG. As I believe it has a proven track record.....with many of us here already.? What do you think?

* * *

!
Ok, CD,
Here `s
Jack and Jill

Jack and Jill
Went up the hill
to fetch a pail of water

But Jack fell down
And broke his Crown
And Jill came tumbling after!.


Ok ,CD, You...(We) all read that from the top to the bottom, which of course made perfect sense to do so, because we are not going to read it from the bottom to the top are we?.("ooOh! Whats Opti, on about now?...of course we`re going to read it from the top to the bottom!???....Has he taken leave of his sense`s!???)

CD ,We will get back to the above paragraph later on in this apostle and hopefully you will `Overstand `.

Ok,CD&PD, You will see that if we calculate the vibration of the above enduring Nursery Rhyme We will see that it vibrates to the 16 Vibration(in the Chaldean/Hebrew System).
Now if we look at the interpretation of the 16 Vibration ,which vibrates self-evidently also to the spiritual Neptunian 7 Vibration. We notice that the 16 Vibration as `Deep` as it is, carries a definite `Warning` for we read;

"A Tower struck by Lightning from which a man is falling with a Crown on his head". It warns of a strange fatality,also danger of accidents and the defeat of ones plans.....it is important for the person(or entity)whose birth number is the 16 to remember. To find happiness in ways other than leadership at the top(the Tower and Crown)..."

Now it should be obvious to most that as regards Jack and Jill and its accompanying 16 vibration, the" Man falling with a Crown on his head" is obviously Jack and the "Top" is the peak of the "Hill" in the Rhyme.

Now I should also remind you that Jack is the modern derivative of the biblical name Jacob,( and amongst other things )of the famed Jacobs Ladder. Plus you in America have the `stars and stripes`, while we, on the other side of the Pond, (ie,Brtiain) over here we have the Union Jack.

Which if utilise your `second sight`....you will note that the configuration of the Union Jack is actually the Archetypal Sacred symbol of the Ancient Chaldean 8-Pointed Star of Venus&The Magi!J,that has been cropped within the rectangle of the Flag. So Venus/ISIS herein incarnates over here as our Britannia!J....It was a good day for me and my `Twin` when that came thru my Higher self....As it will be for you CD&PD&CO for you will note that this could not have been Star-seeded to you on any other vibration than on the 17th!!!.So today you can all be blessed to witness Jur Jill in Jur Jack! like Venus rising out of the sea of nothingness....for" that which is essential is invisible"(said the little prince)...unless of course one is guided into the inner sanctuary...to reveal that which is In-visible....with the help of a little Knight...Vision.


(You wont find the above(or other things on this Thread) in any book or so called cult or Occult circles. It is a section of my book The Twelfth Knights Secrets....but unfortunately this book will not be published any time soon, but it will be published along with a lot more Secreations. You`ve been given this for reasons beyond my limits of understanding.
,But what I do know is that what ever is given thru Jpti-Mum-Love, will in its own way make sense to you each individually/intimately in its own way and time. And of course you can just dismiss it and forget,which may or may not happen anyway, but that's not my concern .My main concern here, is that I should do the right thing with that which is leftJ...with me.
And so even tho this is all copyrighted. My radar has become alerted to the fact that there are people out there, who without the right heart and guidance would abuse(by using it out of context) this for their own gain, rather than the collective gain. I am merely its Guardian/Channel for a Higher Voice, like all Spiritually/creative individuals. Which is why I keep stressing I`m not that smart. But like the 16 Vibration implies the "Inner voice" should not be ignored...and in my experience she speaks protectively well.JSo there is a need to concentrate all this `Harmony`into One Volume...Two....or Three. I`m just thankful to have been led to this site so that I may "test the waters".You will note that my `dob` is the 26,nuff said.)

Ok back to Jack and Jill
Esoterically Jack and Jill on one level is a warning to be careful.For the long struggle and climb up the hill is not the true way to go about quenching ones thirst for wisdom/enlightenment.JC noted this when he met the `Great Tempter` who took him up to an exceedingly high place and showed/offered him the kingdoms of the world if he would only bow down and worship him or put another way `Kiss his Ring`.

Moses climbed the Mount only to return and find while he was gone his people in chaos. Esoterically this is where there becomes a split with that which is, above and that which is below.The Universal Law of as above so below appered to be broken!?.(David Blaine the `Magician/phrophet springs to mind with his `Above The Below`experimemt/experience.Moses commandments of the old testemant as good as they were, have forever tempted those who just love breaking rules for the sheer hell of it,plus if you have to tell grown people how to live their life by telling them what basically is common sense....become rare sense. Then it only goes to show us the great challenge that faced Moses after he managed the greater challenge of freeing his people by leading them out of bondage. Which reminds me of the slavery trade that was abolished only to reveal a people that had been stripped of identity,culture and land whom then faced the challenge of being diplaced and rebuilding their broken bridges between Heaven and Earth,but it is IS BEING done as we speak.

This can also be seen in how on Mandelas triumphant release he faced the re-building of a people and land that had been raped and abused in front of the eyes a so-called civilised world for an astonishing length of time.But is power and his peoples power of forgiveness is nothing short of Godlike to say the least and an example to us all and our petty sqabbles.


It is said that the Crown cannot be conquered...it can only be given.In the esoteric study the (Holy)Grail Astrology and inner Sabian symbols as propagated by Helen&Willem Koppejan in their Triology of books containing all the 360 degrees of the Zodiac Round Table.They rightly state in the 17th Degree of Taurus(Which Triple C may be interested to note is the natal position of my Jupiter)that;

"The True EsotericSequence is first to go through Fire(/Crown Chackra/Consciousness) and then thru Air and Water into the Earth elements.Asnd not the reverse, as is so often taught these days in earth bound religions and philosophies"

So strange as it may seem Jack&Jill should have waited for the Pail of Water to flow down the Hill to them!JRather than climb up to it.!And so H&W Koppejan continue to say that;

"the solution for humanity is not to fight for a new earth,but to let it come(down),by becoming a conscious channel for Love(Fire element).Earth bound man tries to lift himself up(herself) into the regions of emotion(water) and so climb upwards towards true light(Fire)
This is not the way.The Light has to break thru first and then everything falls into its proper place without a struggle."

17TH Degree Taurus
Helen&Willem Koppejan
The Fixed Signs
Element Books




Well,hopefully that has shed some lightning on Jack and Jill for you CD&PD.





Back to those Star-Crossed Lovers of America and Britain....

You will note that the tiny but strongly proportioned British Empire had a meteoric rise up the worldly Ladder of History(a dubious rise, but a rise nonetheless),which was followed by for want of a better phrase... a swift `blow to the Head` by none other than the `Stars and stripes` own ambitious plans for` world domination` ,(I know this is all s