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"My life is but a Weaving
Between my God and me
I cannot choose the colours
He works it steadily

The Dark Threads are as Needful
In the Weavers skilful Hand
As the Threads of Gold and silver
In the Pattern He has Planned"

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As far has C.E is concerned i feel that Greg could also be called a `Mother`...and like Mother Goose he has in giveing `Birth` 2this Site...Laid a `Golden Cosmic Egg`.

Which in turn is `Broken` in order 2bring forth new life...
There as been a huge outpouring of Love for Greg&his family.Which has also strongly reminded me of a Volcano...its energy not for destruction merely...but full also of re-generating and life affirming energies...from Deep within.

Gregs LOVE and Belief in the Power of Communication...in Love....along with his belief in the Power of Unity...in Love....Gives Communication and Unity in Love back their Natural Birth-right...which is CommUnity.
He has given birth to a HUmaNITY IN COMM-UNITY.And personally 2me Now this is a `Sacred Site`...& i Feel that Greg(in Essence) is still its Webmaster and at the Helm thru Us and any that will come afterGoddessBless
And this is why i Feel it as `Sacred`.

Again my Heart&Light goes out to Gregs family at this time....But this site is experiencing(what is more traditionally called) its own `dark night of the soul`.
But this is not a truly negative process in fact it is the opposite of what it first appears.Good medicine is always bitter to taste.

I`ve run out of time,but on friday/saturday i`ll try to explain what i mean by that.

Take Care

Opti...Mum...Love

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The good thing is that usually after these `dark nights of thre soul`in my own life i have emerged stronger,sharper,more focused and with reNEWed purpose.

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Thank you for your words,especially for the above which deserved repeating.

You also made me Smile by saying "its so hard to fathom "Moveing On" at this point"...but then you follow this with the beautiful word of...Still(ie,as in still the Mind &Heart&Listen)...and in that `stillness` Greg resurface`s in your Heart&Mind and you `Fathom` it with.... "Still,if I may borrow a phrase from him(Greg), eventually we will move "Onward and Upward".

You GO Girl!

Opti...Mum...Love

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4u Terri have Moved On thru the Terrible suffocating dark as...a light...&Upwards...&In2...a Greater Terrific LIGHT. ...Without haveing to leave this life.

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Thanks! I don't know if you meant that in the context of the recent sad times here and this particular low phase of our lives - or if it was more general then that - but those words meant alot to me.

Busy week - wish I could chat more - but I'll revisit this thread after Thursday.

Love,
Terri

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These people need to accept their own personality.They may be too docile and require more initiative.In fact they need a fresh wind or storm through their lives...Which brings us to the second image.

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A firious storm rages through a canyon,filled with expensive homes.
`This image is a symbol of violence and terror as divine in their capacity for lifting man out of his aplomb and demanding some manifestation of his inner ideals and enduring values...
...The docility has had a rude awakening.The Cosiness of a secure home is broken through by divine violence,so that these people have to rise up to the higher level of awareness of the three Water Signs.Their Cancerian Security has to be destroyed by violence and death(Scorpio).They have to learn to sacrifice and suffer(Pisces)the loss of what they built up in the past(Cancer-Capricorn),so that an inner (Cancer)transformation(Scorpio)and deeper religious sense(Pisces)can be born in them.Their innate docility must rise to a greater abandonment of self.Let them welcome Divine Providence in the storms of life,when wind &rain clash with stone and soil-dynamic force with static.It is their own dynamism which must triumph. /quote]
Helen&Willem Koppejan

Opti...Mum...Love

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16th Degree Libra
Second Image,Inner Symbol.
A Happy Crew is Restoring Beach Piers Wrecked by Storms,

Here are the constructive results of transmuting the destructive forces.This person has to realise that all negative and destroying tendencies in his or her life arise inorder to make energy for the true `building stones`to build the piers,to which boats will be moored in the future.This degree is symbolic for the restitution of the Kingdom of Peace on Earth.What seems negative and sorrowful in the old dispensation will serve as a means for rearation after the catastrophes.These people have to live above the storms of their emotional experiences and simply work.(unquote)
Helen&Willem Koppejan


And so Sayeeth Jupiter....MMMMmmmm...A Biggg Phattt Greek Wedding 4the Gods&Goddess`s.
Well we know what weddings can be like there`s usually everything but the kitchen Synch in there!;).

But Jupiters normally a jolly&preistly fellow in a kingly Way....And Saturn that firm fingered steely eyed taskmaster does often times get the Right Rings...2the Right Church...On Time...in aroundabout kind `O` Way.

And so its not about doom&gloom although it can be and appear 2b quite scarey sometimes...Some call it "the fear of God".But the fear is akin to that of `stage fright` which performers have come to know as a `Sign` that ALL is Well.It is that inner Sacred ground where the `living` and the `dead` meet.And i suppose we at C.E. here have at least 2prominant `Ancestors Buried Deeply Within` this Site(In LG&Greg)...which like i said b4personally makes it Sacred 4me.I can`t really speak 4others on that.But there are many more `Ancestors` that pass or reside sidebyside thru here.The authors,poets,painters,astrologers,musicians,ect,ect,in the form of books,music,art ect,ect.Becouse inevietably sacred ground is also archive ground.

Opti...Mum...Love

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23rd degree SAG
First Image outer Symbol

A human Heart Set o a Trellis,pierced by a dagger with its hilt set with jewels

...They may even see their beloved die by their heart being pierced,without the power to save them.As it is a Sagittarius Degree,their lesson is to hold fast to the faith in the LOVE OF THE HUMAN HEART,in spite of the most horrifying evidence to the contrary which life in the world may bring them...The Jewels on the hilt of the Dagger symbolise the transmutation that is possible.Jewwls are symbols of the sun,which is the spirit.This dagger could be transformed into a weapon of Ligh,piercing thru hearts that have become dark and cold....Thus this sagittarius heart is impaled between Mars &Saturn.They can symbolise death,fear,fear of death,deadly fears and everyform of negative energy that can weaken the heart-power and human life in general.

On the highest level of consciousness we enter the region of the deepest mysticsm,where the heart signifies love as the center of illumination.With the symbol of the bleeding heart suffering for humanity,we are in the center of christian mysticism,about which the spanish(Spain comes under sag!)mystics and sints have written with the upmost profundity.
People with this degeree prominant may experience the sublime pain from which come spiritual healing,when former hate and fear have been taken totally away.
Helen&Willem koppejan

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Now that was a little heavy bit like going to deepest hades...but pluto is a re-cycling planet it..it takes all our shit and transmutes it into Gold.trhis one 4u Isis&your FAMILY.

27th Degree SAG.Second Image ,Inner Symbol

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In New York,Ellis Island Welcomes the Immigrants

A group of immigrants fulfilling the requirements of entrance in the new country.Could there be a more elevated symbol than a pierced haert?.Yes ,LIFE GOES ON IN INVISIBLE REALMS AND THE IMMIGRANTS ARE WELCOMEDINTO THE HEREAFTER,OR IN A HIGHER STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS.NEW YORK CAN BE SEEN AS A WESTERN ARCHETYPE OF A NEW WORLD.THESE PEOPLE BECOM PIONEERS OF A NEW AGE INWHICH THEY MAY REORIENTATE THEMSELVES AND BE POEN TO NEWIMPPRESSIONS ASIF THEY WRE SCHILDREN.THEY ARE NOW STRONG ANDFULL OF CONFIDENCE TO START ANWEW.THERE IS THE WILL TO BE REBORN AND THEY ARE HELPED BY THE INVISIBLE FORCES OPF LIFE ITSELF.
ON AN EVEN HIGHEWRLEVEL THEY WILL BECOME SERVANTS OF THE HIGHEST,WITH REBORN HERATS,FILLED WITH JOY"

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Doe that remind you of any one or maybe a sacred site?

SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE Opti

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I wrote something Last Knight....connected 2the type of Being that would emerge in Society with a Conscious `connection` to their Own Higher S-elf.And so i thought this Organically Growing `number` of people useing their `Elf` could `especially` be called The E.S.P...The Extra Sensory People.

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Did anyone ever notice how close esoteric and E.S.P. are in the dictionary???

Go ahead look it up...I'll wait...

Magical Text 101:
Usually writers are the ones who make up new words or the collective consciousness??? Or both. Kinda synchronous, aye?

Also I was thinking about the Cosmic Egg... Did someone say it already before in this thread or the "Zero" thread??? I was thinking...

Eggs are actually born twice. Once when the egg is laid and born again when the egg hatches. It has made me think about eggs in a different light esp. during Easter time.

With LOve,
Stephanie

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It always kind of bugged me that On A Clear Day was one of Linda Goodman's favorite songs, because I'm not a big Barbra Streisand fan.

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That bugs me too. Especially after I listened to On A Clear Day. It's an ok song but not great. Actually, I don't really even care for her singing at all.

I really like her acting, though. I've watched a few of her movies with my husband (probably on Turner Classics or AMC). I especially like this one comedy of hers...I can't remember the name of it, though... I really like Yentl. Although nobody I've ever lived has liked Yentl. So I could have bad taste there.

I haven't seen On A Clear Day, yet. I really want to, but haven't found it at any video rental store. The video stores will tell me they have the movie when I call. When I drive all the way to get it they tell me, "Ooppps we used to have it. It's still on the computer system..."

Another thing that bugs me is LG seemed so enamoured by Babs...especially since I've heard Barbara can be a very difficult person, to put it nicely.
...And I can believe she would be stubborn and difficult, as she is a Taurus Sun Sign with a Leo Moon--the stubborn Bull mixed with a fixed Leonine Moon. HRH Queen Elizabeth of England has the same Sun and Moon as Babs. My husband's Luminaries are in the same Signs, too. All 3 very difficult people.

Love&LIght
Stephanie

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"So it`s a bit of a pity for me"...

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Theres a 360Degree chance that the`Gods` are gonna synchronise with you here...so it a little astonishing that you have three planets that get so close to the degrees i`ve mentioned here...so lose the self-pity and count your Blessings!

HHHMMmmmmm,i liked what you had to say about the Triple Fixed soul-Tribe-Vibe...So lets keep this Triple Ripple Vibe going Shall we....How about a Big Phat Dollop of Tripple Cardinal Ice Cream ...Follow me... Healing Our Mother Earth...On this Wonderful Thread of Pats...go to a discussion between me&Triple Cardinal...what you want you will find on an a Postle dated April 29th 2004 7:43am(You will find all you need there,It is infact a trilogy of Books that you need,i dont think they are that easy to get in some places but if your meant to own a copy then you WILL ...and if you have some time check out its prequel 7:29am .

Opti...Mum...Love

PS HrH&Chilldeon( "A Troupe De Force Led by Exotic Dancers...GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT...

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Esprit de corps-is a feeling of loyalty and pride that is shared by members of a group who consider themselves different from other people in some especial way.
Collins Cobuild Dictionary

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"The trick is really on how to handle 'em."

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I've found this to be very true in my short existence as well. The best way I've found to "handle" them is NEVER to disagree with them openly. You can ease them along the way you want them to go with kind words or by good example, but if you try to criticize them the following things are going to happen:

Taurus is going to dig in his heels.
Leo is going to roar at you at the top of her lungs.
Scorpio is going to freeze you out, most likely forever.
Aquarius is going to ignore you, COMPLETELY.

Again, these are just my observations. Hope you enjoy them!