#156303 - 01/28/06 11:16 AM
Re: IntoMESee
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 Gosh mARIA, I am so very happy to here Your feelings. It makes me very happy and humble to know others can share such fragile feelings and response. I, for One, am all too thankfull for People like YourSelf and many others here, who have keep this Flame burning amongst the obstacles of Life, that may have gotten in our Way,....and prevented my Self and Others from participating in such a taken-for-granted Place such as this. Looking back through the Archives has replenished my Well and caused my Cup to overfloweth. I am truly indebted to All of You. Beyond these mere glyphs I could use to express my Self. Linda, Greg and many others who have passed through this Way, are ablaze right Now with All the hard Work You and Others have done hear. IT is the Special Gift we all receive when we click on the link,...and Voi La...there it is...an Open Forum for Soar I's.  I love You All.  Where's is that hugs and kisses glyph anyway? Purrhaps Ginni could help me out. Right now an over dose of intimacy would be appropriate. Thank You for everything.  Chahlie
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#156304 - 01/28/06 08:42 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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Gifted Shaman, he is  We search with this deeply innate yearning all our lives. Perhaps because intuitively our Souls sense the possibility in seeking outside of our Cellves to discover that rare & magical hand that may guide us Home. There is Purpose in everything Naturally felt.  Is there Vice in Nature? It shouldn't ever be depended upon. It shouldn't be a given. It shouldn't be expected. But it is entirely possible. If only we may remain aware that Home is never a fortress nor a crash-pad ... yet ever a Cherished Space to share and Be. 
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#156305 - 02/04/06 06:14 AM
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 Takes One to Know One. "Our Cellves"= I lika. Oh the thought of Us Being projected images of Our Cellves. Layered versions of our True Self eminating from a formidable Force of Life stored safely in the Core of Our Being....securely protected by the In No Sense of this Yearning. Waiting.... Watching.... Sensing..... Exisiting enough to Live. Causing Us to reMember our Cellves into One Finite Being of A Live. Living Whole as One with it's Entire Uni-Verse! What You see is What You get.  The Druids believed that (Wo)Man is Three Entities: 1> Who Others think we Are. 2> Who We think we Are. 3> Who we really Are. Once again,...using IntoMeSee, our search is not in Vain,...for "the Long and Winding Road leads us back to Your door..." Home a Gain, we Lose our Cellves and find our Self. "Back where we started,....here we go Round a Gain." Is there Vice in nature?" Hmmm. I like that One too. More to follow after a vat of Kona.  Chahlie
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#156306 - 02/04/06 08:34 PM
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It's a bit Strange to talk to One Self in Cyber Whirled. Answering thothts filed in Space SomeWhere.  "Home is where You hang yer hat..." If, in fact, You wear One. hOMe. The Center of All. THE place to Be. Right where I left me......"  Waiting...watching....Sensing.... The Existence that pulsates through Your Being. The a wearness that fatigues Your Mind. The Presents of Mind to know the difference Between Good and Not so Kind.  hOMe I guess intimacy truly does lead back to home And where when One first felt It. From Whom How and Why maddered Most though.  hOMe. WHen does hOMe become a Place? Can One Ever go hOMe? reTurn from whence We came? Can hOMe be left behind Sight? Created a Gain in Time or in Space? Taken back to a Place of Mind that cannot be traced in Time...but only seen with Real Eyes. A Real I's Ovation that hOMe IS Your first Breath of Life The Gift and Covenanted bed One made so Long ago.... And Your our Hear Now. Once a Gain. reMembering One Cellves unto Your Self. Skillfully using One's Fate to forge Your Destiny. Be Coming Whole with Inne. Naturally Pure. Posed. Full. hOMe. Feeling All Right.  (psst, passIt on..."hOMe is where the HEart is.  " and really good Soup.  "And If I can't find my Way back home It just wouldn't Be Fair. Cause,...Precious and Few are the Moments we too can Share...." But Seriously Folks.  IS there Vice in Nature? I just love opening boxes. That is a very interesting Topic inDeed. And brings forth many a Question. and Not without Theory.... What exactly is Vice anyway? I'm sure all those Viewers have replies.  Chahlie
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#156308 - 02/05/06 09:10 AM
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 Oh, but how Great it is to have hOMe within.... You can take the Mother out of the hOMe, but One cannot take the hOMe out of the Mother. Like Truth containing hurt... MOtHEr will All Ways contain hOMe. No matter how far a Map may take Us, It is through the Mother that we ALL find our Selves. And for Mothers of All Women, the hOMing device within nevers runs out of batteries. A cloaking device to what is really important. Security. Affection. THe Simple Knowing that hOMe truly is where the Heart is. For men, I believe, the search all ways reTurns Us. For women though, the journey takes them there. Besides, Lisa. I wish More of this Whirled had only a fraction of what You Have Within. Purrhaps then, the Journey would Be less seeking and more Being.  "The greatest Gift One will Ever know, is to Love and to Be Loved." "I'm getting closer to my home....."  Chahles
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#156311 - 02/06/06 07:22 PM
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I know the worst Vice is AddVice. When it's most needed, it's least heeded... Especially to the Wise Man who Knows EveryThing.  Vice is an interesting Word. IT depicts many a thought in One's Mind when pondered. From the small utility contraption in the workshop that holds things tightly in place to the numerous addictions and calamities that Mankind endures on his daily passage through Time; Vice conjures many images and offers Virtue as it's remedy. Both of which are essentially concepts created through the existence of ManKind and it's perception and application to Life indeed! aGain, the Whirled in witch we Live in and make Our own, we stand carefully poised between Vice and Virtue. Pendalooming headstrong towards the latter; striving for Goodness and Righteousness....making straight the Path. Acting in Consciousness as Our Divine Creator expects. Hoping to attain Enlightenment through Good, Clean Living. We seek Virtue. All Ways. The Former, however, knows no such course of Action. It exists unto Itself. Here for no One in particular, except it's own plea sure. Exisiting only through it's own use, it bides it's Time, fully assured of it's attainment through ManKind's propensity to use It. Consume It. Devour It. Manipulate It. Rationalize It. Deny It. Once a Gain. Holding on tightly to the Rope,...waiting for it to swing straight again....bringing Virtue closer to our grasp. Ah, the HUman Pendulum. The Crux of Mystery.  I guess it really does come back to the Center. Knowing we all falter. We all fall. We all fail. "We all need someThing to lean on...." We All Want More. We All have EveryThing we need. But Still. We keep swinging...stretching....grasping... wanting to Be better than We are. Wanting Life to Be More than it seems. Hoping we can rise up from the ashes of Vice.... and soar to the Ethers of Virtue. Day By Day. One Day At A Time.  Chahlie
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#156312 - 02/07/06 12:26 AM
Re: IntoMESee
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Ultimately those vices are what others love to point out in us but never see in themselves.  Maybe what is vice to one man is virtue to another. What's good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander. 
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#156313 - 02/08/06 05:43 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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Osho Zen Tarot : Major Arcana
1. Existence
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Existence You are not accidental. Existence needs you. Without you something will be missing in existence and nobody can replace it. That's what gives you dignity, that the whole existence will miss you. The stars and sun and moon, the trees and birds and earth - everything in the universe will feel a small place is vacant which cannot be filled by anybody except you.
This gives you a tremendous joy, a fulfillment that you are related to existence, and existence cares for you. Once you are clean and clear, you can see tremendous love falling on you from all dimensions.
Commentary:
This naked figure sits on the lotus leaf of perfection, gazing at the beauty of the night sky. She knows that "home" is not a physical place in the outside world, but an inner quality of relaxation and acceptance. The stars, the rocks, the trees, the flowers, fish and birds - all are our brothers and sisters in this dance of life. We human beings tend to forget this, as we pursue our own private agendas and believe we must fight to get what we need. But ultimately, our sense of separateness is just an illusion, manufactured by the narrow preoccupations of the mind.
Now is the time to look at whether you are allowing yourself to receive the extraordinary gift of feeling "at "home" wherever you are. If you are, be sure to take time to savor it so it can deepen and remain with you. If on the other hand you've been feeling like the world is out to get you, it's time to take a break. Go outside tonight and look at the stars.
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#156314 - 02/11/06 06:17 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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Lisa, that's quite true about existance needing us and missing us when we are gone. We leave a void that can't be filled by anything or anyone else. I forgot who said it but someone said that whenever another human soul dies, "I too am diminished." It would indeed be wonderful to feel at home wherever we go in life. I think most of us only feel at home with those who we know accept, approve of us and love us for just who we are. That would be mostly very close friends and family. Not to mention my cats.  I never feel at home when I am out in the world. It makes me tense and I can't wait to get back home to my safe haven. I guess that's in part because I am a taurus with cancer risings. A homebody. Home is where it is at for me. It's where I feel safe and protected.  Love, Mom 
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#156315 - 02/11/06 06:36 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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Halo Connie  Yes, I agree. I BElieve to see and point out any Vice, One must recognize It. And in recognizing It, identifies with It and responds to It with catharsis indeed. Hopefully, it is compassion and empathy that first causes this relation. Instinctually desiring to help, we see vice and know in Our Heart of Hearts, we cannot allow It to conquer any Being that dares to join Us, we HUmans we call Other, Living Now amongst Us in this Elemental Eden we now share and call hOMe. BEarth For If we do, we forGet what we deServe. And forGive no One but our Selves.... Constantly turning the Other cheek. Be cause we have to.... We not only capture our Selves within our Flesh and Blood, but imprison our Perceptions of Consciousness as well. Undermining the Whole Point we deSided to incarnate in the first Place. To Be on Earth and Live Life with One and an Other. As One. To Live and Let Live. The Hope and quite possibly the need for Virtue to triumph over vice; If, Evolution is to TransPire on The Cosmic Scale, is the PurePose of Existence. The Attainment of Being Whole. Is why we are Here. With the journey of desires giving freely our Will, Temptation defines vice from Virtue in each Being. With Conscience Being the I of God in the Heart of Man. The Internal Compass. Lest we Ever forGet....  If, EveryOne were nice to One and Other for Just One Day.
Edited by Chahldean (02/11/06 06:38 PM)
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#156316 - 02/11/06 07:11 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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 I was responding to Your last post Connie when I real eyesed You and I were replying at the same Time to two different Posts. AND, once a Gain,... in Synchronicity.  As for Existence needing Us...... Oh the reLeaf!  The Divi9ne Joy of Being a Part of EveryThing and counted for. To know in the depth of dispair and disgust fear and anxiety vice or Virtue we have a Right to Be Hear.  "Just as the Stars and Trees...., we are a Child of the UniVerse. And whether or not It Is clear to Us, no doubt the UniVerse is unfolding as It should." (M.Ehrmann) 
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#156317 - 02/13/06 10:20 AM
Re: IntoMESee
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Quote:
If, EveryOne were nice to One and Other for Just One Day.
Yeah, we should have an international be nice to one another day. We would all have to get rid of a lot of baggage for that to happen though. Mostly we only do things when we feel there is something in it for us...to fulfill a need we have. Even if that need is only to make us feel good.
Vice and Virtue:
I think it's true that we all live in the middle of both vice and virtue, and as you said, Chahlie, striving for virtue and constantly struggling to rid ourselves of vices. It seems the human condition that vice is a whole lot more enticing than virtue. 
Last night I was surfing around the net concerning the subject of vice and virtue and I came across these astrology related charts. These are nothing new but it doesn't hurt to remind us that we have inate virtues but according to our astrological make-up we also have inate vices or at least the vices we are attracted and prone to.
The Four Elements
Element Virtues Vices
Fire - Courage, enthusiasm and willpower.Energetic, strength, creative, valor, loyalty, motion, perceptive
Anger, jealousy and hatred. Sporadic, breakative, irritable, destructive, intemperance, anger, caught in illusions
Earth - Being centered, patience, truth, thorough and dependable.Patients, builder, strength, thrift, acquisition, conserved, practical, dependable, stable, endurance, and protective
Dullness, laziness, inconsiderate.Greed, addictions, obsessions, laziness, tired, lack of control, forgetful, anger, and slow
Air - Intelligence, practical, speed, communications, adaptability, magnetic, fluid, optimistic, clearness, kindness, intellectual, piercing, perceptive, inventive
Impulsive, frivolous, easily fooled, Gossiper, thief, dishonest, contemptible, fearful, lacking of stability, rude, air headed, unemotional. Water - Love, compassion, receptivity, flexibility and forgiveness. Receptive, understanding, empathic, sympathy, vitality, growth, loving, kind, astrally aware, divining, intune with cycles, meditative
Indifference, depression and instability. Over emotional, disintegrating, dissolving, secretive, indifferent, no foundations, ungrounded, forgetful, lustful, clouded
The Planets
Planet Virtues Vices Pisces
Sun - Self confidence, honor, nobility, loyalty, hope, joy blunt, persistent, quarrelsome, strong, and theatrical, arrogance, bigotry, pride. Moon - Charitable Delusion, sentimental
Venus - Justice coldness, isolation, lechery.
Mercury - Cleverness, eloquence dishonesty, deception.
Mars - ambition, energy anger, violence.
Jupiter - Temperance greed, wastefulness. Saturn - Responsibility, morality oppression, pain.
Saturn PRUDENCE SOBRIETY PERSEVERANCE FIDELITY FIDELITY CONTRITION OBEDIENCE Saturn avarice obstinacy presumption incorrigibility seduction insensitivity stupidity
Jupiter CLEMENCY TEMPERANCE VALOR TRUTHFULNESS MODESTY MAGNANIMITY ABSTINENCE Jupiter despair gluttony murder,curse irreverence insolence sadness roistering
Mars DILIGENCE FRUGALITY FORTITUDE PIETY FEAR CONTRITION COURAGE Mars cruelty sensuality anger rage, injury fornication heresy diffamation
Sun GRANDEUR LIBERALITY GENEROSITY FAITH HONESTY MAGNANIMITY HOLINESS Sun greed impudence temerity conceit sacrilege idolatry haughtiness
Venus DISCRETION CHASTITY CONSTANCY PIETY JUSTICE CONSCIENCE VIRGINITY Venus selfishness dissolution arrogance vanity lust curiosity concupiscence
Mercury DIPLOMACY AFFABILITY DARING TRUTHFULNESS POLITENESS HOPE HUMILITY Mercury larceny impotence betrayal falseness adultery envy lying
Moon TENDERNESS FRIENDSHIP PATIENCE FIDELITY CANDIDNESS CONSCIENCE CHARITY Mooninfidelity inconstancy impatience disobedience weakness mass frenzy sloth
This table is based on Fr. Jean d'Aubry's keywords for the virtues and vices associated with the 7 planets. The 7 columns represent the 7 planetary types described in Blessed Raymond's "Book of the Seven Planets" . 14 rows display the influence of the other planets on the main type. (Lullian philosopher Father d'Aubry was the personal physician and advisor of Louis XIV of France. A special letter from the pope prevented him from being burned at the stake on accusations of witchcraft.)
The Zodiac
Sign Virtues Vices
Aries Adventurous, energetic, pioneering, courageous, enthusiastic, confident, dynamic, and quick-witted Selfish, quick-tempered, impulsive, impatient, foolhardy, and daredevil
Taurus Patient, reliable, warmhearted, loving, persistent, determined, placid, and security loving Jealous, possessive, resentful, inflexible, self-indulgent, and greedy
Gemini Adaptable and versatile Communicative and witty Intellectual and eloquent Youthful and lively Nervous and tense - Superficial and inconsistant - Cunning and inquisitive
Cancer Emotional and loving Intuitive and imaginative Shrewd and cautious Protective and sympathetic Changeable and moody Overemotional and touchy Clinging and unable to let go
Leo Love the Limelight Generous and warmhearted Creative and enthusiastic Broad-minded and expansive Faithful and loving Pompous and patronizing Bossy and interfering Dogmatic and intolerant
Virgo Modest and shy Meticulous and reliable Practical and diligent Intelligent and analytical Fussy and a worrier Overcritical and harsh Perfectionist and conservative
Libra Diplomaitic and urbane Romantic and charming Easygoing and sociable Idealistic and peaceable Indecisive and changeable Gullible and easily infuenced Flirtatious and self-indulgent Scorpio Determined and forceful Emotional and intuitive Powerful and passionate Exciting and magnetic Jealous and resentful Compulsive and obsessive Secretive and obstinate
Sagittarius Optimistic and freedom-loving Jovial and good-humored Honest and straightforward Intellectual and philosophical Blindly optimistic and careless Irresponsible and superficial Tactless and restless
Capricorn Practical and prudent Ambitious and disciplined Patient and careful Humorous and reserved Pessimistic and fatalistic Miserly and grudging Over conventional and rigid
AquariusFriendly and humanitarian Honest and loyal Original and inventive Independent and intellectual Intractable and contrary Perverse and unpredictable Unemotional and detached
Pisces Imaginative and sensitive Compassionate and kind Selfless and unworldly Intuitive and sympathetic Escapist and idealistic Secretive and vague Weak-willed and easily led.
Without a vast deal of knowledge of astrology, I have noticed that when the moon is in Taurus I feel sluggish and lazy. I have to push myself to get moving. Which I always do but it takes a lot of effort and motivation on my part. In doing that, though I was never consciously aware of it, I am overcoming a Taurus vice or tendency. *Patting myself on the back for that *
Love, Connie  
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#156318 - 02/15/06 08:17 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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 Hear I sit a Gain...listening to the Sigh lensing it Self amidst the glare of this machine and it's deafening high pitch sound of connectedness...wondering too, if any Sole sits with me in a parallel UniVerse...waiting for the Words to come. I have been thinking alot about this vice we speak of. This attraction we pay dearly to ride on. This temptation thing that seems to go hand in hand with our foot in our mouths, vice lives within Us. As you have showed us hear MoonFlower....some vice is innate in our Beings. Instilled in our Essense is an inclination to certain behavior indeed. All predisposed based upon our ETA. Giving us uniformity in our shortcomings, we are all well aware of each Other's vice as we deal with them on a daily basis. It's easy to see what's wrong with You and me. I wonder though.....are Aquarian deer also erratic and reclusive at times? Do Cancer birds eat more than their share? Are Virgo spiders more hygenic than other spiders? Do Libra cats settle catfights diplomatically? Maybe Taurus fish would rather be on land? Purrhaps Saggitarian dogs really want to run with the Wolves....? IS there vice in Nature? This has been giving me Food for Thotht for some Time Now. These innate vices, that seam to have a hold on Us before we even real eyes it, spiral into conscious creations that absorb our True Energy; either by consuming our HEart's desire in fear and anxiety or drowning our Pure intent in wastefull addictions. Oh the Power of the Mind! Not to mention the Genes.... Why don't animals have drinking problems? Or eating disorders? Phobias? MayBE they do.... or mayBE it is the Trade off for Free Will. " I can resist anything, but Temptation." O.Wilde
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#156319 - 02/17/06 09:02 AM
Re: IntoMESee
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I think it is a trade-off of free will, Chahlie. Though it has never really been proven beyone a doubt that animals can't think, lower animal forms react by instinct instead of thought and choice. But then again so do some people. hee hee For that reason it is my thought that the only vices that animals have are the ones they pick up from the people they live with.  They don't have eating disorders per se but if they live with people who eat even when they aren't really hungry then the animal will do the same. My cats want to eat every time we eat even if they just finished eating their food. They hear the can opener and they come running.  I have said before that in some ways lower animals may be better off than we are. They are content being just as they are whereas often we are not. A cat is happy just being a cat and doing the things that cats do and doesn't want to be a dog or anything else. We humans always want to be more than we are and we are always comparing ourselves to others. We always want to be prettier, richer, smarter more famous etc. Even in spirituality we even want to be more good or more holier than the next person.  We are never content just being who we are and looking just the way we look or having just what we have. We always want more. We even look at life and say there has to be more to it than this.  Face it, we're all a mess but that's okay because God loves us just like we are.  However, we even think that God expects more of us. See what I mean?  Love, Connie 
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#156320 - 02/21/06 09:47 AM
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Hey Connie  Thanks for stayin' wit me hear. Can Be a lonely Place in Intimacy.  Yes, proof. A Word that is valued by contemporaries and scientists who write the paper. A state of realeyesation that makes abstractions real for those who cannot think for themSelves. A time tested Way of making Believers out of heathens,zealots and atheists. A must have for citizenship in Missouri, I'm sure.  Again, another Spiral of Thotht intomeesee has spurned....proof. The allowance of Belief under any circumstance. Beyond a doubt. Hmmm. Is there any such idea known to man? Can ANYTHING be proven beyond doubt? Or must Faith carry Us when no answers are available? If we Truly Believe something, is it True? If we Pray to It and nourish IT with our Thothts and emotions, will it BE as we see IT? Is this part of the HUman Nature you describe when we want more? To BE more? To have more? Is it this never ending Evolution, both within our Selves and within Humanity, that drives Us to continually prove and validate our existence? OR merely the Natutral Order of things..... Do we constantly have to know? IF so.... Why???  Chahlie
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#156321 - 02/21/06 11:23 PM
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lol 'because I said so'.  ...as if that ever satiated our yearning.  They say that animals don't have free will, but I don't believe it. Perhaps it's not as analytically derived, nor fluently or flashingly expressive....its more subtle than language, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. There's this magical place inbetween words and images. I listen and look there...and these quiet spaces sometimes mean as much, or say more, than all the things said and written. The Unseen. The Unheard. Where Truth is. I want to understand why people don't listen there. Why so literal? There was an intake of breath.....just so. A certain expression.....a soft sadness in the eyes that exhausted itself into a smile. Did you see it? Did you catch that? Or did you just notice the smile? He said one thing, I knew inside he meant the other. She pranced and preened.....I felt her heart breaking inside. The World is holding its breath.....it's sighing. A beautiful tree lends cool shade in your heart......planted so long ago in a wealthy Spring, Does it cool you? Do you feel it? It was nourished by your own gentle rains. Can You feel it? 
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#156322 - 02/22/06 09:49 PM
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So much so, I am Dancin in the Moonlight  "The Whirled is Sighing. Holding onto it's Breadthe"(  )....inDeed This Magical Place <The Moment> In Be Tween Breath and Death The gentle reigns of my Self nourishing The One Witness of the Unseen and Unheard. Amidst those Quiet Spaces Where Truth lies The gentle rains of myself nourish the one witless of the Unseen and the Unheard. Enough to reCognize <The Moment> In Be Tween The inhalation and The Exhalation  HU.  A Place wear We meet our True Selves.  Why? Because I said so....." As If!?.....  I feel it like,... Peter Frampton. 
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#156323 - 02/27/06 07:07 AM
Re: IntoMESee
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A Place wear We meet our True Selves.
Si, Sir Chahles. 
In all fairness I should say that the part about the tree was inspired by a friend~~A gifted writer, whom described so beautifully the way, when we come together in this life and touch each other's hearts in special ways, a tree is planted therein. 
We, in our hasteful need for tangible confirmations, may uproot its tender roots...feeling we need to artificially re-pot it....place it upon our mantle for daily visual reminder of its existance. So fearful, if we let it out of our sight, we may lose it~~oblivious the very fear of losing is what loses. If only to keep it natural within us and let its gradual budding leaves coolfully shade our anxieties. Allow all the gentle rains of our Trustful Receptiveness and Acceptance nourish it through time. How much deeper and vaster may its roots spread.

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#156324 - 02/27/06 07:48 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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 Well then. We must have a serious Forest around hear. I can't see it through All these Trees.  While true, we contain that which Exists without Us so well...the ebb and flow of Life and Love. We also need to standUnder it's Spell...to know HOW it works and WHY. To feel it's Flow through our BEing in All Ways, we BEcome imprisoned in our Magic Garden. And though our Thumbs may Be green...our Souls are as read as the Tales we tell our Selves. Those insecure anxious Memories that offer false Hoods for safe Havens. For, in the lack of Understanding, Hope Springs Eternal. ...andso,.... we still Stand. Like that Tree... Up Right. Reaching for the Sky Squinting at the Sun. As it warms our Face. In bracing our Selves We feel a Live. Full of Life Rooted in our BEarth. Our hOMe. This Source of Gentle Rain. Tree to Tree. May the Forest BE with You. 
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#156325 - 02/27/06 09:05 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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Hmm. Very thoughtful, Chahles.  I don't believe the gentle rains within could Be without such Understanding or Awareness. Firstly, Acceptance and Love of Oneself, aLone. And this kind of Awareness couldn't come from blind Alliegiance or merely blind Hope...only through the timely shifts of an observationally-expanding... ever more understanding Soul. Without this first Embrace and Love (of Self), the inner landscape would be too barren and dry to produce the right atmosphereic conditions needed for replenishment. Or so it seems...to go hand in hand Or Tree to Tree.  Yes, perfect~~ side by side as equals. (Leave it to an Aquarian to quiver in horror at the thought of being rooted inside of someone.  ) Tree to Tree : Friendliness First meditate, be blissful, then much love will happen of its own accord. Then being with others is beautiful and being alone is also beautiful. Then it is simple, too. You don't depend on others and you don't make others dependent on you. Then it is always a friendship, a friendliness. It never becomes a relationship, it is always a relatedness. You relate, but you don't create a marriage. Marriage is out of fear, relatedness is out of love. You relate; as long as things are moving beautifully, you share. And if you see that the moment has come to depart because your paths separate at this crossroad, you say good-bye with great gratitude for all that the other has been to you, for all the joys and all the pleasures and all the beautiful moments that you have shared with the other. With no misery, with no pain, you simply separate. Osho The White Lotus Chapter 10 Commentary: The branches of these two flowering trees are intertwined, and their fallen petals blend together on the ground in their beautiful colors. It is as if heaven and earth are bridged by love. But they stand individually, each rooted in the soil in their own connection with the earth. In this way they represent the essence of true friends, mature, easy with each other, natural. There is no urgency about their connection, no neediness, no desire to change the other into something else. This card indicates a readiness to enter this quality of friendliness. In the passage, you may notice that you are no longer interested in all kinds of dramas and romances that other people are engaged in. It is not a loss. It is the birth of a higher, more loving quality born of the fullness of experience. It is the birth of a love that is truly unconditional, without expectations or demands. **Wish I could have posted the picture with this, because it's very beautiful.  Can't figure out how to with the new server as yet. Don't mean to seem like a rabid cult follower of Osho, posting him as I do, but damn if his words don't always fit, so can't help it. 
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#156326 - 02/27/06 09:23 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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The attachment process still works the same way it used to in older version of the forums. 
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#156327 - 02/27/06 09:25 PM
Re: IntoMESee
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 Teaching old Hands some knew tricks.  I guess we're so busy stirring the Mind and mouth,...the hands and keys are foreign to us.  Purrhaps you can splain how one mo' Time. For I got some pics I would love to share. Much Danka EOS.  Chahles
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