Hello. I have been with this Saggi man for 7 years. I'm a Gemini. We have an intense relationship but it has been incredibly difficult at times. We have a lot of very special things going for us. But we can't live together. We have tried. We have two children together. I discovered when we first got together, that my retrograde Venus is conjunct his retrograde Mars, so thats interesting karma for one.

But is it enough? Are the good things we share enough, despite the rest?

His DOB: 11th December 1960, 6.30 am in Tripolis, Libya.....mine 25th May 1980 at 11.35pm in Bristol, Uk

Listen,

I'll get back to you on Monday with a fuller explanation... But you have already given some big clues, the retro Venus in your chart and the retro Mars in his, especially since they are conjunct... Huge attracrion, especially sexually, and karmic as all get out - both of those planets when retro (and check the search index for more details as I have gone into it elsewhere a long time ago) indicate abuse of the Love principle - Venus spiritually and Mars physically... The fact that you have two children who have chosen to come through the two of you indicate that they are also involved in this as well. A quick flash to me suggests that perhaps in a prior lifetime that the two of you were reversed in the sexual roles - you the male and he the female.

Out of curiosity, presuming that you have the children's birth data - do you know when they were conceived?

Love

Dave

Thank you for responding. Thats very interesting. One other idea I had was that we may have had an illicit love affair in our previous lives, lol.

I have my children's birth data. I'm not sure exactly when they were conceived though. My eldest son's DOB is 15th October 2003 at (I'll just check)....11:11pm (oh my gosh, there are those numbers people have been talking about again!). My youngest son's DOB is 20th May 2006 at 3.57pm. Both in Bristol, UK.

I have deep love for my boyfriend, but I'm not sure about him being my Twin S-elf/ flame. It is all very confusing. It doesn't seem to bother him; all these issues. It only bothers me. In the ideal world I would like to be living with my partner......but then again you could say I need to see my cup as half full, not half empty. He only lives around the corner from me.

LOve and Light

Listen,

I had a few minutes, so I did a quick look. Ok, both of you have Moon Pluto conjunctions - yours is virtually exact and his is a bit wide, but there - and in the davison relationship chart, it is there also - with Mercury conjunct as well. Deep emotions which can be destructive - sure sounds like a theme and you basically confirmed it. Yours is in Libra - his is in Virgo - so he is more practical about it whereas you are more verbal about it.

The Venus Mars conjunction is 13 degrees apart - a bit wide, but the principle is still there. The reverse Venus Mars is a but wwide also for an inconjunct. However, the Davison Venus Mars are sextile each other, and the Mars of it is inconjunct his Venus and sextile your Venus.

Your impression of an affair is probably right...

As for the children, I have the feeling that their conception times is the better "measure".

I'll look some more.

Love

Dave

Thank you for your advice, Dave. I appreciate it as I get a positive feeling from your words.

I wonder sometimes whether I should be with him because of my strong feelings, or whether my Twin S-elf, if such a thing is true, is really out there, and the only thing holding me back from meeting him are these karmic ties in this relationship.....

I do know that my youngest son was conceived at the beginning of August 2005.

Listen,

If you are holding "back" because of the karmic ties with this man, then you probably will "never" meet him - and it is the thing that one does not look - it happens - and that even then it may not happen (I know from experience!).

Your children - "planned" or not?

More on Monday...

Love

Dave

Hello again.
Well, today I told him that its over between us. I feel I am now able to clarify a lot of stuff which has been going on in my head for years, to make sense of things. The strong feelings I have for him are the karmic ties. Relationship-wise, we'll never be compatible. He never understands what I try to tell him, about how I feel in this relationship, etc. Perhaps he will one day.

You asked if my children were planned- bit of a sensitive subject. But I'll guess I'll just come out and say it- no they were not. It's a long story and I know how it looks, but I would like to ask anyone who happens to read, not to judge. I need to just concentrate on the present now, not on the past and what could have been or should have been.

Listen,

I am glad that you were able to be able to sort things out in your mind and deal with it - it is always hard to do.

As for the children being "planned" - no big deal. At some level they were "planned" and that is all that matters. I was curious if it had been a conscious decision on both your parts.

I will get back to you later on some more things.

Love

Dave

Listen,

Since you posted what you did, I decided to look at the transits to your chart, and basically there are two that are going on. One is that Saturn is squaring your Uranus - so freedom/limits issues (i.e., the relationship) have been on your mind and with Saturn about to turn direct, you have been doing things the right way - consciously, and that is good. This will end in a few months. The other one is that Neptune is trining your Mercury and your Moon Pluto conjunction, which will allow you to tap into your subsconsicous very easily, and that has been helping bringing your feelings to the surface. This one will go on all year, and take advantage of it!

Love

Dave

Thanks

LOL- I don't think I'll ever be able to completely finish with him. I wouldn't want to swap him for any one of many possible 'soul mate' guys out there. As for Twin S-elves/ flames- well, seeing is believing- if there is any truth in this (romantic) concept. Many people share a deep bond with someone and like to think of it in this way because they are romantic. In a sense, we're all soul mates anyway.

Love & Light

Listen,

Part of you will never be "finished" with him - a fact of life, especially since he is the father of your children. A karmic relationship is not necessarily a "soul-mate" one, so one has to be careful in how it is put - the best thing is that since there is no real definition of one astrologically (a real clue is Venus - Saturn aspects though) is to accept that when the two of you "meet" that both of you will know - and yet, it may never happen in this lifetime due to other circumstances.

Actually, you are right in that we are all "soul-mates" here on the earth - but actually it is esoterically two levels higher than that - it goes exoteric, soul, spirit (and there is astrology defined at different levels for those levels) but it is the level above that that all of us on Earth reside have in common, and there is nothing said about it - yet! It will have to be pondered upon - and your comment was the thought that brought that thought to mind!

In Light and Love

Dave

Wishing you strength, wisdom and serenity for the next phase, Em. And angels watching over you all.

BTW, I know two couples who actually planned their children. And that was because they got their children through adoption.

Maria

David,

You are simply an inspiration to me, man. You are hands down one of the most generous people I have ever met with your astrological gifts. And always with some just...really knowledgeable posts about the subject. Thanks for sharing.

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