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#160064 - 01/18/08 11:31 AM Help with a lexi
Kitty Offline
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Okay, here's what we have...

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I tell you forehand - this is not a name. This is sth. I have had to start pondering about for various reasons. And while I'm willing to tell you about it later (the whys and howcameabouts), for now I'd appreciate all the help I can get wordwise.
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Kitty

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#160069 - 01/18/08 12:39 PM Re: Help with a lexi [Re: Kitty]
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I should be doing housework, but I can't resist a lexi...

A B C D E H I L S U

deal, heal, head, base, slide, slice, used, lie, he, she, child, chide, shed, shield, sled, lead, led, chase, said, dish, dash, bed, bash, sidle, side, hide, lace, club, blue, slab, idle, scale, hail, dial, his, abuse, shade, be, sad, case, base, sale, sail, bad, cad, lid, bled

Oh. I just got what it is that I'm lexi-ing here. I wondered why there was so much disturbing in it. Now I understand. Sheesh, really kind of proves the truth of lexi-ing all over again when you do it this way without knowing at the beginning what it is.

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#160073 - 01/18/08 11:53 PM Re: Help with a lexi [Re: Kitty]
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A B C D E H I L S U


ARTICLES
a

CONJUNCTIONS
as

INTERJECTIONS
ah bah eh ha la
si

PREPOSITIONS
as

PRONOUNS
each he his i she
us

VERB-INTRANSITIVES
abide ache aches ail ails
be belch* bide bleach* blush*
blushed* bud* buds* build* builds*
bush* chase chased* chide child*
clash dab dash daub* dice
die dub* hail hailed haul
heal hide hides idle is
laud lie sail sailed scab
scud* shade slue sue

VERB-TRANSITIVES
abduce* abide able abuse* abused*
aid aids ail ails ash
bail bale bash basil beach*
bead beads bed bedash* beds
belaud* belch* bid bide bield
blade blades* bleach* blush* blushed*
build* builds* cable case cash
caudle* cause ceil chase chased*
chide chisel chud* chuse* clad
clash club* clubs* cub* cube*
cue dash daub* deal deals
dial disable* dish dishable* dub*
dulce* haul heal hide hides
ice isle lace laces lash
lashed leach lead leads leash
lech sad sauce scald scale
scud* seal shab shade shale
shed shie shied shield sidle
sled sleid slice slide slub*
slue sluice* suade subaid* sue
use

ADVERBS
abed as aside due

ADJECTIVES
able acid aisled audible* auld
bad bade bald base basic*
beauish* bias blue bluish* cabled*
calid disable* discal dual ducal*
due habile* hable heliac hued*
iced id ideal idle laced
lich lucid* lush sable sad
said scaled sheld side slab
suable* suadible* subacid* subdial* such*
usable*

NOUNS
abuse* ace ache aches acid
ad adieu aid aids aisle
ale ash aside audible* bacule*
bail bale bascule* base basil
beach* bead beads beau bed
beds beild bi bias bid
bidale bield bile bise bish
blade blades* blea blue bud*
buds* buhl* bulse* bus bush*
bushel* cab cable cabs cad
cadi cadie cali case cash
caudle* caul caulis* cause chad
chaise chasible* chasuble* chaus* child*
childe* chisel chisleu* chub* clause*
club* clubs* clue clues cub*
cube* cubile* cud cue cuish*
dab dace dais dale dales
deal deals deas debauch* deca
decil deil dial dibs dice
die disc dish duel duels
dulia dulse duse es hades
hail hauls heald hilus* hub*
hud hue hues ice id
idea ideal ideas ides is
isabel isle la lace laces
lad lads lash laud leach
lead leads leash leuc li
lice lich lid lids lie
lied lieu luce lues lush
sable sachel sadh sahib* sahui
sail sale sauce saul saulie
scab scad scald scale sea
seal seid shab shade shale
shed sheil shield shude* sice
sicle sida side slab slade
slaie sled slice slich slide
slub* sluice* sub subah* sula
use
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#160091 - 01/21/08 08:46 AM Re: Help with a lexi [Re: Lexigrammer]
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Thanks for your help, Maria and Soloc. As a non-native speaker of English, doing lexis isn't always easy for me. And this one wasn't /isn't fun for various (obvious? I think so, Maria...) reasons. Those last weeks have been hard since I learned what happened - I still could puke and clench teeth and fists over it - but it won't undo a single thing. So I'm asking myself what to do, using, among other things, the wisdom of words.
I might do a lexi over this, when it doesn't make me puke any more.
Thank you anyway, read you later,
Kitty

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#160094 - 01/21/08 02:42 PM Re: Help with a lexi [Re: Kitty]
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Yeah, Kitty, I started into the lexi, like I always do, assuming it was something where there would be pro's and con's, where the question behind it would be something along the lines of "Should I do this," or similar. My tendency is always to kind of especially look for the happy words. But it kept being full of ominous stuff. And right then, when I got to bled, my brain put it together and said, "This phrase is child abuse."

It stopped me cold, especially because the night before I had been reading about the vast child sexual abuse ring, with tentacles high in government, that had begun to be uncovered in Belgium some years back with investigation of the Marc Dutroux case and the X-Dossiers. Of course, the investigation was shut down when it got into the higher reaches. Similar to the Casa Pia case in Portugal. Similar to the Franklin Credit Union case in the United States. Reminiscent of the Trance Formation of America material from Cathy O'Brien.

In all of these big rings, there is enough, if you look closely enough, to make it clear that there are indeed very powerful people involved in rings that are perpetrating the most heinous atrocities imaginable and halting investigations through all sorts of means, including murders, before the highest levels can be uncovered and proven. In all of these cases, the base unit level is child abuse in homes of messed up families, and the kids traumatized in those situations become exploited later by the wider rings, sometimes through the mechanism of being taken into the social welfare/foster care system of the government.

When you've read enough that the pattern emerges in so many different locales, where some bits of it get proven, where victims of it finally believe they'll be believed and start to talk about what they know that provides information that can lead to further investigation and be verified, when you see that information being followed and preliminarily verified, and then when someone new gets brought into the investigation and says it's all a hoax and shuts the investigation down ... Well, it's a definite pattern. And it's real.

I know that in discussing those major rings I've deviated from the smaller unit situation that prompted you to start the lexi. But without the initial trauma that the victims of child sexual abuse endure at the family level, the rings wouldn't get started. The trauma frequently induces dissociation within the victim's personality, which in cases where the victimization is ongoing, and certainly in the cases of these rings, becomes Multiple Personality Disorder/Dissociative Identity Disorder.

I don't know if the beginnings of that sort of dissociative defense mechanism ever got started in the person you know who was a victim as a child, but it might be worth bearing in mind as you try to sort out the current implications for that person. I think you have some relevant professional background with medical people, don't you? Maybe you can find someone with professional experience relative to adult outcomes psychologically for these child victims. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder would be common, I would think, which sometimes shows up as needing a high level of control over their current circumstances.

Good luck to you on your quest. It *is* so pukey. So repellent. There are a number of thresholds your brain has to get over before it can even allow itself to believe what you read/hear about these situations. I'm sorry this has come up for you and existed in the background of your friend. \:\(

Hugs,
Maria
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#160099 - 01/21/08 07:34 PM Re: Help with a lexi [Re: Kitty]
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Thanks Kitty!
Maybe having the words from that broken down into parts of speech may make your Lexigramming easier.
Good luck!
Soloc
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#161178 - 03/09/08 12:16 PM Re: Help with a lexi [Re: WriteOn]
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 Originally Posted By: WriteOn
Yeah, Kitty, I started into the lexi, like I always do, assuming it was something where there would be pro's and con's, where the question behind it would be something along the lines of "Should I do this," or similar. My tendency is always to kind of especially look for the happy words. But it kept being full of ominous stuff. And right then, when I got to bled, my brain put it together and said, "This phrase is child abuse."


Yes, it is, Maria. Sorry to not have said so sooner, but... The topic comes up again and again in my life. Since November I've repeatedly been confronted with it, both jobwise and in private. It happens in ways and in an intensity that I really start wondering what this is all about.
I haven't been a victim of abuse, but the theme re-emerges and re-emerges. I wish I could the signs and put it all together, but perhaps not yet.

I ponder my natal... Venus squares the Nodes, is opposed by Saturn and squared by Uranus... might be that I had been a victim in a former incarnation. Even while working in the psychiatric unit, I had far more than the average share of abuse victims among my clients. One colleague once said half-jokingly I must have sth. upon me, drawing them near and trust enough to open up.

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Well, it's a definite pattern. And it's real.


I know it. I once spoke with a woman diagosed Multipled Personality Disorder in the psychiatric unit about it, who told me enough to believe it. Yeah, Maria, I know. But never until I heard of what happened THAT near and close, did I feel compelled to do anything. That is different now.
But I'll have to clearly and carefully plan what to do.

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I know that in discussing those major rings I've deviated from the smaller unit situation that prompted you to start the lexi.


Yes, you did. And no, you didn't. Both. Simultaneously. It's all in the cocktail.

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But without the initial trauma that the victims of child sexual abuse endure at the family level, the rings wouldn't get started.


And even if it "only" stays at the family level, it goes through generations and generations and generations. Like a plague of ancestors... passed down and along. "A learned illness" as one of the victims I know of recently phrased it.

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The trauma frequently induces dissociation within the victim's personality, which in cases where the victimization is ongoing, and certainly in the cases of these rings, becomes Multiple Personality Disorder/Dissociative Identity Disorder.


Yes, I know. (see above).

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I don't know if the beginnings of that sort of dissociative defense mechanism ever got started in the person you know who was a victim as a child, but it might be worth bearing in mind as you try to sort out the current implications for that person.


It's there, including some very clearly PTSD symptoms.

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I think you have some relevant professional background with medical people, don't you? Maybe you can find someone with professional experience relative to adult outcomes psychologically for these child victims.


Working on it, as well as reading as much as on the topic possible. Even though what I find throws me onto an emotional roller-coaster.
But... if there is a way, I WILL find it. Even if it was the
last thing in my life, I'd do it.

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Good luck to you on your quest.


Boy, do I need it!

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It *is* so pukey. So repellent. There are a number of thresholds your brain has to get over before it can even allow itself to believe what you read/hear about these situations.


That was what I meant by the roller-coaster...

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I'm sorry this has come up for you and existed in the background of your friend. \:\(


Well, things are what they are and now we've got to deal with it the way it is.

Hugs back to you,
Love,
Kitty

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