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#161450 - 03/30/08 05:21 PM Re: Thus Spoke Zarathustra [Re: BlueDove]
Venus Offline
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Registered: 10/20/99
Posts: 807
Loc: Massachusetts, USA
Wow Blue Dove. What an awesome, third eye opening post you shared with us. Thank you so much for saying the words I have been waiting so long to hear. I especially loved these passages:

"I cannot grasp a sentient, always happy,
always pain-free, "enlightened" Being.
Such a Being has never existed and never will.
Everything is in movement.
Infinately in Cycle to the next."

"It saddens me how people do so to each other.
"a master is never sad, never experiences pain".
I will never believe in that,
nor place that isolation on anyone."

"who hide behind an impenetrable "positive-happy-enlightened-bubble".
What does it serve, other than to contain oneself
in selfish disillusion and keep realer, more soul-felt,
profound connection, learning and growing
at bay?"

I'm one that tends to put alot of pressure on myself to be positive and happy all the time. Thank you so much for your loving reminder that it's OK to hurt and feel sad sometimes. I do believe that what you said about pain, "Potential's inspiring breath is most often accelerated and enhanced for the experience" has alot of truth to it. Thanks again for sharing your wisdom with us.


Tracey
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Go confidently into the direction of your dreams! Live the life you always imagined. ~ Henry David Thoreau ~

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#161559 - 04/07/08 07:47 AM Re: Thus Spoke Zarathustra [Re: Venus]
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Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 1218
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Nice to hear that it touched something within you,
Tracey.

thank you

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When I speak, I speak from my heart.
When you speak, I listen with my heart.

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#161564 - 04/07/08 02:46 PM Re: Thus Spoke Zarathustra [Re: BlueDove]
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Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 249
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 Quote:

It saddens me how people do so to each other.
"a master is never sad, never experiences pain".
I will never believe in that,
nor place that isolation on anyone.
That's what it is-- alienating. Isolating.

We take someone already suffering,
and degrade them for it,
as if it is less wise...lacking.


Thus speak the Children of Eden.

Who is to be known but by that which they take into their hearts from the common human experience? Is there a pain that is not yours as well? Is there a suffering in your surroundings that you will not, do not feel..if not now..then certainly "when the bell tolls for thee..?"

Such reverent "value" we place on these "nirvanic miracles." Walking with our eyes to the sky, oblivious of the teeming masses still grounded; yet to reach the heavens.

Is this then, the logical calling of all people? To feel others' pain; share it among us? To dilute its hold upon our daily wonderings with compassion that our overall outlook on these living gyrations might tend to higher things than the mundane minutia of our simple suffering?

We are liberated beings playing out the part of convicts for no good reason other than unwillingness to accept the reality that similar walls imprison us all.

Perhaps the blissful have abandoned us to our fate?

daf

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#161701 - 04/15/08 03:13 AM Re: Thus Spoke Zarathustra [Re: dafremen]
ListensToTrees7 Offline
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Registered: 03/26/07
Posts: 108
You are such poetic souls.
I love your beautiful thoughts.

I am deeply intrigued by Nietzsche's Zarathustra, this is definitely a book I am going to look out for.

Perhaps when I have managed to read it, I will be back here again some day to share my thoughts.

Love to you all.



Edited by ListensToTrees7 (04/15/08 03:13 AM)
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Perhaps all the "gods" are nothing but myths of our own making.....
the demons illusions of our own creating


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