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#161713 - 04/16/08 10:43 AM Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi...
moonflower Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
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..who should learn to leave well enough alone. ;\) Once again things on her web page have been changed as has her title regarding the movie Metaphysia. Once again I will state that it is actions such as these that only peak my curiosity and pose more questions and suspicions for me.

I couldn't resist the subject title of this thread. This is long, much to tell, and I apologize in advance for the length of this post.

I received a return call last night from Sean Fisher who is the owner of Marin Studios in Las Vegas, NV. Mr. Fisher is also the writer/director of the movie Metaphysia soon to be released.

Before I pass on what Mr. Fisher told me let me say that my perceptions of him is that he is a very nice, and good man who is dedicated to getting his movie finished and released. Due to the movie being released to the public soon he is concerned about becoming involved in any controversies. I fully understand that and assured him that will not happen on my part as I only contacted him for verification and clarification. This is why I want to make it clear that Sean Fisher is innocent of any of the claims made on the boards of CE and LL by Bibi De Angelo.

It was my intention to come here to CE today and just pass on what Mr. Fisher graciously told me. Even if I had my suspicions I did not intend to mention them. Now that Bibi has scurried around and changed her website I will relay to you my suspicions because her actions only confirmed my suspicions for me.

Those of us at both sites who saw the original link to the Metaphysia site that Bibi De Angelo posted at both sites are fully aware that her title at that time was listed as Executive Producer. Since I think most of us are aware that Exec. Producer is a big deal in the movie industry, as it is my understanding, correct me if I wrong, that the Exec. Producer is the one who puts up the most money for the production of a movie and therefore has a lot of say in the movie. I will check that out later and correct it myself if I wrong. At any rate that original title has been changed to read Production Executive which still is not an accurate title according to what Sean Fisher told me on the phone it should read. Also Bibi has edited her original posts regarding the film to now read Production Executive and has also added a long credits list to her promotional web page - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2566539/otherworks

Her orginal posts at LL and CE now read as thus:

BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake
Posts: 575
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2007 posted November 16, 2007 01:31 PM
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Our new film trailer is now up and traveling at light-speed across the globe. I've been working on this Production as Production Executive... please visit!
Please take a moment to view it: http://www.metaphysia.net
Our film explores the intriguing ideas of the metaphysical communities of this new Century; and investigates the possibility that human civilization is undergoing an unprecedented shift in consciousness.

I have forwarded this post with the new title change and Bibi's words regarding working on the movie and referring to it as "Our movie trailer" to Sean Fisher. Mainly because Bibi claims in her posts to be working on the film and refers to it as "our new film trailer." In other words, she is implying something that is not true according to what Mr. Fisher told me on the phone.

He stated that someone told him about Bibi De Angelo and her consultations so he contacted her and she gave him astrology consultation. He also stated that she pointed him to two people in Los Angeles who were a lot of help to him in his film. Bibi however was not and is not involved in the actual production of the film or the creation of it. That is solely the effort of Sean Fisher and his Marin Studio staff. The real producers of the film are listed at the Metaphysia web site. Sean Fisher said that due to Bibi pointing him in the direction of the two people in LA who were of help to him and her role as astrology consultant to him, he in return put her on the movie credits as "Production Consultant." That is how he stated it should read on the credits. Although for some reason that is not how it now reads at his website. Either someone made a mistake or there is a fish stinking in the woodpile.

My guess and suspicions is that due to Kel mentioning on this forum the other day regarding us contacting the person in charge of the movie Metaphysia ( which I already done ) and my reply to her post, Bibi got to Sean Fisher on the phone before he contacted me. In fact, were it not for that Mr. Fisher may not have even returned my call. That is not to imply that I feel that Mr. Fisher is involved in any of Bibi's misrepresentations on the boards or her doings.

I think that the pattern Bibi has is at play here. Bibi never does something for nothing in exchange. She does favors for people so that when she needs a favor they feel obligated to comply. That is also the case with Philip di Franco in the video interview she made and posted at You Tube. The information that I received from a source is that Mr. di Franco was in dire need of money at one time and Bibi did the favor of helping him out with his money problems. With Bibi it is kind of a "I did this favor for you now I want you to do a favor for me" kind of behavior pattern. I scratch your back now you scratch my back.

That is evil because it is manipulation and putting innocent people in the position of having to lie when they may otherwise be honest people on the whole. I feel this is the case with Sean Fisher.

I did not grill Sean Fisher on the phone and ask him who the person was who gave him Bibi's name for astrology consultation. That I would not due because I am sure it was a friend of his and it is not my wish to ask anyone to divulge the names of their sources. Mr. Fisher himself has a page at My Space devoted to his own beliefs in astrology and he has two other pages at My Space devoted to his Marin Studios and his movie, Metaphysia. So I am certain that his source in finding out about Bibi De Angelo was probably someone on his friend's list at My Space or an offline friend. It was an innocent encounter on Sean Fisher's part and I can't stress this enough. I do want him exonerated of any controversy surrounding Bibi De Angelo and any charges of wrong doing. As I stated, I got very good energy vibes from his voice and his manner on the phone. He was very direct and stated his concerns and even seemed very at ease when I told him I was a member of two sites in tribute of and dedicated to the memory of Linda Goodman. He liked that. I think he is just returning a favor of which he seems very grateful for.

In email after I called Sean Fisher I did send him a follow up email with the link to the You Tube video and asked him if he could confirm for me that the woman in the picture at the end of that video was the same Bibi De Angelo that gave him the astro consulatations. On the phone he told me that he could not confirm that because he never saw Bibi De Angelo and does not know what she looks like. He stated that he only talked to her on the phone. Same as everyone else who has any contact with Bibi De Angelo. They never see her in person. She was not on camera in the video either so I wondered why if she did not show herself on camera in that video she bothered to put her picture at the end of the video???? It would have been more convincing had she actually been on camera. Normally it is only people wanted by the law who have something to hide that are that cautious about revealing themselves. LOL So this peaks curiosity on people's part.

Also Bibi now has a long list at her promo site that actually state the movies she has offered consultations in that were not listed before due to what she claims is her wanting to "protect the privacy of her clients." Why put them there now? Why isn't privacy of clients an issue now when it was her reason before? I think it's her ego and the feeling she has that after Sean Fisher's phone call and her video she has won. Because I am certain that this is all about Bibi winning and coming out on top. Not so in my case. It still remains with me the truth as the value at stake here. Once again it goes back to those exaggerated lengths that Bibi goes to in order to defend her identity on an internet forum to average people who actually have the right to believe her or not. People who actually have the right to question her in a democracy. Which really is no longer a democracy but an idiotcracy instead these days but that is beside the point. \:D

I still believe that Bibi is an identity created by Kathleen McGowan and that she is Kathleen McGowan. The picture she posted at the end of her video confirmed that. Bibi in all her self promotion and at her promotion sites has never stated that she wrote a book and was an author. Yet I know that she has approached someone and offered to write a book for that person. Now why would Bibi De Angelo who is in the business of astrological consultations offer to write a book for someone?

Bibi, I would have just posted what Sean Fisher told me on the phone and let it go at that for others to draw their own conclusions had you not once again gone that extra mile with exaggerated and extraordinary actions. My advice is that the next time you go to your "higher self" you address that enormous ego problem of yours and start working on it. Mainly because it keeps getting the better of you and consequently keeps tripping you up and creating suspicions in other people. Concentrate on the old saying, " Oh what a tangeled web we weave when first we practice to decieve." And another saying, " You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time." Hopefully, unlike Bush, I got that saying right. LOL
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#161714 - 04/16/08 10:50 AM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: moonflower]
moonflower Offline
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BiBi DeAngelo
Knowflake
Posts: 575
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2007 posted November 16, 2007 01:31 PM
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Our new film trailer is now up and traveling at light-speed across the globe. I've been working on this Production as Production Executive... please visit!
Please take a moment to view it: http://www.metaphysia.net
Our film explores the intriguing ideas of the metaphysical communities of this new Century; and investigates the possibility that human civilization is undergoing an unprecedented shift in consciousness.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000324.html


http://www.linkedin.com/pub/7/987/b38
BiBi DeAngelo’s Experience
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(Sole Proprietorship; 1-10 employees; Entertainment industry)
January 2007 — Present (1 year 4 months)

Final Casting decisions and Production Executive for Productions in independent films, documentaries, TV series, Studio Film Productions, Musical Concerts, etc. I assist in Casting Talent and Professionals for all kinds of Productions. Using the Science of Astrology allows you to know total compatibility: (1) Director & Actors, (2) Director & Editors, (3) Actors and their Agents and/or Managers, (4) which projects to green light, and (5) Cast which Actor for best love scene or fight scene (which Actor is about to have their cycle for an Oscar, Emmy, Grammy!) I invite you to visit my website: bibideangelo.com and educate yourself on how I can specifically enhance your career -- getting confirmation of uncertain decisions can provide more confidence in your final decisions



Production Executive for Documentary film "Metaphysia" - 2007 (projected release 2008).

Casting & Production Consultant for "Music of The Light" Concert, held February 9, 2008, Skirball Center, Los Angeles, CA.

Now all of a sudden Bibi has credits up the gazoo. She has this new page up to tone down her executive producer claims.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2566539/otherworks

Credits that all this time Bibi has stated were not presented due to belief in the privacy of her clients. Suddenly it seems their privacy is not a concern of Bibi's.

Could it be that the fear Kathleen McGowan has is due to her mounting paranoia that people are out to do her in regarding her claims of being a descendent of Mary Magdalene and Jesus in her book "The Expected One?" Could that be why she has disappeared from her website on the internet and created this new identity of Bibi De Angelo?

If so I feel it is an unfounded paranoia and fear. Christianity is used to things like this. There have been unfounded claims and herasies in Christianiy and the Roman Catholic Church in the over 2000 years of it's existance. It's nothing new. Although it is also nothing new that Christianity has it's own version of terrorists and fundamental whack nuts. Not on the most part but it does contain those factions as do all other religions and every other walk of life. So those groups might be a valid fear for someone who lays the claims out to the worldwide public that Kathleen McGowan did in her book and subsequent interviews and promotion of her book. It may have attracted some threats and valid reasons for her paranoia. However, that is the consquence that she created for herself and while I understand her possibly not having foreseen that, we all have to pay the consequences or our words and actions. If what she stated is the Truth then Kathleen McGowan, being a descendent of Jesus, should be fully willing to go the same route he went to bring truth to the world. She should feel very blessed to do so. \:\)

Actually I believe we are all descendents of Jesus by adoption through him as Children of God. Which is what is taught in all of Christianity. We are all brothers and sisters of Jesus by our birthright. God is the Father of us all. It is not at all necessary to have that birthright through a human sexual encounter. To suggest that is elitism and Jesus was not an elitist nor is God. We are all esteemed as One with God. All equal in God's eyes. We all obtained that birthright as Children of God by the blood of Jesus on the cross. That is Christian teaching and while I would never say that everyone else has to believe that, it is what I believe. However, I also believe that Kathleen McGowan can say anything she wants to say without harrassment or threats or retaliation for presenting her truths in a book. She has the right to that. If she is afraid in hindsight and wants to create another identity and disappear, I would respect that if I knew that to be the case. But you can't become invisible by going around the internet making huge and exagerrated claims about yourself and name dropping. That will automatically create suspicion in people and draw attention to yourself.

The only way anyone can become invisible is by being invisible to the public eye.


Edited by moonflower (04/16/08 11:24 AM)
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#161747 - 04/17/08 06:49 AM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: moonflower]
juniperb Offline
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Registered: 10/10/02
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It was a long read Moonflower but well worth the time!

I am glad Sean Fisher responded to you and clarified !

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On the phone he told me that he could not confirm that because he never saw Bibi De Angelo and does not know what she looks like. He stated that he only talked to her on the phone. Same as everyone else who has any contact with BiBi De Angelo


Exactly as I said in my post to MysticalStone. If he said she was his consultant then consultant she is.... a far cry from the title Production Executive. \:\)

I do see the changes as well in her web pages; I understood her claims to privacy when ask who some clients were.

A most honorable and admirable stance...

then we go look and
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Bibi now has a long list at her promo site that actually state the movies she has offered consultations in that were not listed before due to what she claims is her wanting to "protect the privacy of her clients." Why put them there now?


I wonder who else she would hang out on the line to dry for all the world to see???

What other privacy issues/secrets will she divulge to stand taller??????? If her clients are fair game, well... \:o

juniperb

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#161750 - 04/17/08 08:51 AM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: juniperb]
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;\)

I edited this thread because I got confused and thought I was sending you a pm instead Juni. One of those senior moments.. Arrgh and I have yet another birthday coming up soon too.

Love, Connie


Edited by moonflower (04/17/08 10:11 AM)
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#161758 - 04/17/08 12:26 PM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: moonflower]
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Registered: 05/26/00
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Hiya Connie \:\)

"Zee plot thickenzzz..."

Man oh man, is this ever getting interesting...!
As your good cop/bad cop partner, I'm gonna have a go at this from another angle... ;\)

I'll admit the Bibi/Kathleen identity thing has me enormously intrigued, (and you're interrogating the suspect in a fine manner ) but my own feelings of mistrust and anger come from the claims of a woman stating she is a descendent of Jesus & Mary Magdalene. As I've mentioned before, this troubles me greatly.

I've pondered endlessly WHY someone would come out and make such a claim, and I keep coming back to the same motivation: EGO.

Regardless of WHO YOU ARE, or WHO you're related to, if you're gonna attach the names of Jesus and Mary to your life in order to sell a book, you ARE NOT behaving in a manner appropriate to someone wishing to "share truth."

If you've got something to say, SAY IT. But the need to say, "Hey, I'm special because I'm a descendent of..." is, well, as far as I'm concerned, blasphemous.

(And I'm not even a Christian.)

As a man who spoke against poverty, against inequality, and the classification of people due to sex/race/money or family name, I cannot help but think that Jesus is rolling over in his grave as we speak.

And somewhere, Mary is crying.

Tara
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#161774 - 04/18/08 08:25 AM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: anessene]
MoonDragon Offline
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Registered: 02/19/08
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Seems like someone has a severe identity crisis as far as I have seen things. Perhaps such people need to get a life outside internet rather than creating unwarranted conflicts all around!
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#161776 - 04/18/08 09:19 AM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: anessene]
juniperb Offline
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ROFL@Moonflower... tis cool because I replied to a watched topic and Maria got it instead of you and the topic thread \:D

Moonie, good to see you and I need to go visit you soon!

Love,juni

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#161901 - 04/23/08 04:46 PM Re: Moonflower Shares News RE Ms Bibi... [Re: juniperb]
ListensToTrees7 Offline
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Gosh!
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