I am into life extension and the possibility for human physical immortality. It was this that drew me to Linda Goodman's books, so I am wondering is anyone here actually using her method for reversing aging and stopping it all together and if so how is it working for you?

I have not tried the method yet, mainly because I have been working on other methods and I am not sure that a method which bases itself on having to be vegetarian is right for me. But I do find it very interesting what Goodman writes.

You must be very young, Venefica

Linda Goodman wrote many good things but it is obvious from her death at ( or around ) the age of 70 in 1995 that she didn't really have any true methods of preventing aging or living immortally in the physical form. If she did she would not have died from complications of the diabetes she was plagued with in life.

It's my opinion that there is no fountains of youth. There is or never has been any physical immortality. We were not meant to live here in the physical form forever. All things die. All animal life dies. We cannot remain young and beautiful forever no matter how much we work out or how many surgical procedures or diets or creams we try. What illness doesn't do to us gravity will. There are far more things that doctors can't cure than they can cure and no one ever won the battle over gravity. Gravity is what causes our wrinkles, lines and aging. It is a natural phenomenon and if gravity did not exist neither could we. This opinion of mine is also backed up by scientific facts as well as the obvious.

I believe that our souls - our spirits - are immortal. That is why I feel that we should all be more concerned about the spiritual side of our lives than we are the material which like all things, passes, ages and eventually dies. We can't change time. Time does change us. In more ways than one but definitely our physcial bodies change with time. That's just something that we have no control over. No matter how much effort or money we may spend on trying to stay young, time catches up with all of us eventually. And all that time trying to stop aging will all have been wasted when it could have been used much more wisely.

Those are my thoughts on this subject. I will be 64 years old next month so you can trust that what I said here I know from experience. I worked out, dieted and did all the right things in my life ( except I used to smoke ) and I still aged with time. I may have kept aging at bay in my 50's but trust me when I say that once you hit 60 you better have something other than a youthful body to hang onto because that is the age when gravity lets you know it's all downhill from here.




Connie (moonflower)

Ahhhhh !! ~~ Not if I can have anything to do about it. I guess I'll just have to PUSH you UP-hill then.

Hi Venefica,

Just thought you may-BE interested in this guy Robert Lanza, MD, Chief Scienific Officer of Avanced Cell Technology, may answer some of those questions you have about physical immortality.



Robert Lanza, MD

Chief Scientific Officer of Advanced Cell Technology

Who is Robert Lanza

Robert Lanza, M. D. is considered one of the leading scientists in the world. He is currently Chief Scientific Officer at Advanced Cell Technology, and Adjunct Professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine. He has hundreds of publications and inventions, and over 20 scientific books: among them, “Principles of Tissue Engineering,” which is recognized as the definitive reference in the field. Others include One World: The Health & Survival of the Human Species in the 21st Century (Foreword by former President and Nobel laureate Jimmy Carter), and the “Handbook of Stem Cells” and “Essentials of Stem Cell Biology,” which are considered the definitive references in stem cell research.

Dr. Lanza received his BA and MD degrees from the University of Pennsylvania, where he was both a University Scholar and Benjamin Franklin Scholar. He was also a Fulbright Scholar, and was part of the team that cloned the world’s first human embryo for the purpose of generating embryonic stem cells. In 2001 he was also the first to clone an endangered species (a Gaur), and in 2003, he cloned an endangered wild ox (a Banteng) from the frozen skin cells of an animal that had died at the San Diego Zoo nearly a quarter-of-a-century earlier. Lanza and his colleagues were also the first to demonstrate that nuclear transplantation could be used to reverse the aging process and to generate immune-compatible tissues, including the first organ tissue-engineered from cloned cells.

One of his most recent successes was showing that it is feasible to generate functional oxygen-carrying red blood cells from human embryonic stem (hES) cells. The blood cells were comparable to normal transfusable blood and could serve as a potentially inexhaustible source of “universal” blood. Dr. Lanza has also succeeded in getting stem cells to grow into retinal cells. Using this technology some forms of blindness may be curable. His team also discovered how to generate functional hemangioblasts – a population of “ambulance” cells- from hES cells. In animals, these cells quickly repaired vascular damage, cutting the death rate after a heart attack in half and restoring the blood flow to ischemic limbs that might otherwise have to be amputated. Recently, Lanza and a team lead by Kwang-Soo Kim at Harvard University reported a safe method for generating induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells. Human iPS cells were created from skin cells by direct delivery of proteins, thus eliminating the harmful risks associated with genetic manipulation. This new method provides a potentially safe source of patient-specific stem cells for translation into the clinic. However, one of his greatest early achievements came from his demonstration that techniques used in preimplantation genetic diagnosis could be used to generate hES cells without embryonic destruction.


Dr. Lanza has received numerous awards, including a Rave Award for medicine, and an “All Star” award for biotechnology. Lanza has been called the “Bill Gates of Science. He believes that stem cell technology will have a substantial importance in the future of medicine. According to Discover magazine, “Lanza’s single-minded quest to usher in this new age has paid dividends in scientific insights and groundbreaking discoveries.” Dr. Lanza and his research have been featured in almost every media outlet in the world, including CNN, TIME, Newsweek, People, as well as the front pages of the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, among others. Lanza has worked with some of the greatest thinkers of our time, including Nobel laureates Gerald Edelman and Rodney Porter, renowned Harvard psychologist B.F. Skinner (the “Father of modern behaviorism”), Jonas Salk (discoverer of the Polio vaccine), and heart transplant pioneer Christiaan Barnard. His current research and work at Advanced Cell Technology focuses on stem cells and regenerative medicine and their potential to provide therapies for some of the world’s most deadly and debilitating conditions.

In 2007, Lanza published a feature article, “A New Theory of the Universe” in The American Scholar, a leading intellectual journal which has previously published works by Albert Einstein, Margaret Mead, and Carl Sagan, among others. His theory places biology above the other sciences in an attempt to solve one of nature’s biggest puzzles, the theory of everything that other disciplines have been pursuing for the last century. Nobel laureate E. Donnall Thomas stated “Any short statement does not do justice to such a scholarly work. The work is a scholarly consideration of science and philosophy that brings biology into the central role in unifying the whole.” This new view has become known as Biocentrism. In biocentrism, space and time are forms of animal sense perception, rather than external physical objects. Understanding this more fully yields answers to several major puzzles of mainstream science, and offers a new way of understanding everything from the microworld (for instance, the reason for Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle and the double-slit experiment) to the forces, constants, and laws that shape the universe.

“Robert Lanza is the living embodiment of the character played by Matt Damon in the movie “Good Will Hunting.” Growing up underprivileged in Stoughton, Mass., south of Boston, the young preteen caught the attention of Harvard Medical School researchers when he showed up on the university steps having successfully altered the genetics of chickens in his basement. Over the next decade, he was “discovered’ and taken under the wing of scientific giants such as psychologist B.F. Skinner, immunologist Jonas Salk, and heart transplant pioneer Christiaan Barnard. His mentors described him as a “genius,” a “renegade thinker,” even likening him to Einstein.” - U.S.News & World Report, cover story


http://www.robertlanza.com/who-is-robert-lanza/

You can also hear Robert Lanza, MD tonite on the " Coast to Coast AM Radio with George Noory.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

I agree with a lot of what you say Moonflower, Linda did'nt
seem to follow her own advice. As a vegetarian since 1992 I'm
told I look a lot younger than I am, I've also had no symtoms
of menopause.I also take vitamins C & E daily.

Hello friends, i would like to ask for advice if i am a vegeterian what vitamins i should take plus daily?

Hello Venefica !

Don't believe in people who do not believe in the messages of Linda, especially in immortality. If you read page by page logically, it reveals true, just because others don't get it, does not mean it is not true; and there are always reasons, why people talk different...it is not easy to get it into the head though...I mean it's pretty much mind blowing, I can understand, that it is to much for many people to assimilate all that...I haven't started yet to apply Lindas and other wise pionners in that yet, somehow does the daily life still catch me every day, but I read a lot about that matter, not only Linda, and it pretty much seems to be logical, that it would work out, just I think if you forget by all that to integrate the positive "white" magic of life, you would probably end up a kind of "vampire" like individuum..., wouldn't like that, think about....,but it is always worth to read about this matters, and I am a true LINDA Believer, even if many here regarding of witch reason always try to hide on of the most important messages of Linda and talk about unimportant issues all the time...., even this forum and website declares her death, I don't want to discuss reasons for that, but all that is really humiliating the heritage of Linda, for all who read this lines: LINDA IS STILL ALIVE, READ HER BOOK AGAIN ! I officially open the discussion here and now, whether Linda is still alive or not, who thinks she really died, has to show me real PROOF, no fluff words or fake; Who saw her dying ? When ? Any pictures ? Who was at the funeral, what does the family say ? How about her Children, what do they know ? Let's discuss that, that is the real topic for this forum, let's discuss the real facts; Let's discuss stopping aging her, that is the forum topic, nothing else; The fact, that I was not getting flaged here, shows me that the owner of this website is also interested in the real discussions and not only to make money with Linda's name...good for the owner...at least a real truth seeker...

believeinlinda.

I don't REAL-ly believe that weither Linda Goodman is a live or passed over to the other side is of any issue here at CE, or much for that matter debatable. I feel no one has to prove or provide anyone with facts or evidence on such matters or other WISE. This is not the reason CE was founded in 1999. Maybe you would like to read a little more of the contents of this website and get a little more background history(Real Facts) before you start trying to label or say that its the only topic up for discussion and nothing else here.


So on that note, I provided you with some readings(REAL FACTS) as you call them, just below of why this website was founded in the first place.

You do know WHO " Gregory Ellison " is, do you not ?????????


I SMELL a dirty rat







Gregory Ellison



Welcome to Conscious Evolution!


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From this point forward we will consciously participate in the direction of our own evolution. We will become what we choose to become.
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... we stand shuddering at the doorway to this brave new world ...
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... unparalleled power without the wisdom to balance it is a mortal danger to all life
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The system of thought that has structured our collective reality until now is hierarchical organization
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This is how we think ... a "pecking order" view of reality
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The relationships are not among superiors and subordinates, but among equal "parts" and the "whole" that emerges from them.
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Every part is a whole, and every whole is a part

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We are living through the birth pains of the planetary mind
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Can you imagine the cells of your right hand going to war against the cells of your left hand?
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What Is Conscious Evolution?

by Gregory Ellison


"Homo sapiens, the first truly free species, is about to decommission natural selection, the force that made us. ... Soon we must look deep within ourselves and decide what we wish to become."


-- Edward O. Wilson



Consilience, The Unity of Knowledge

Mankind is on the verge of an evolutionary leap in consciousness, to a whole new way of thinking and being that will put us as far above our present concept of "man" as modern man is above our stone age ancestors.

Until roughly the present time, the forces of evolution have been external to mankind. Whether we think of these forces as essentially physical/biological, or essentially spiritual, in either case we have not consciously directed the course of our own evolution. This is simply where the journey has brought us.

But no more. From this point forward we will consciously participate in the direction of our own evolution. We will become what we choose to become.


Why now?

There are many things that point to this moment in history as a time of major transformation. Religious and spiritual prophecy from many different traditions point to this period as the "end times" where the old world falls away and the new millennium arises. Astrology recognizes this as the dawning of the "age of Aquarius," a transformation to spiritual awareness, peace and brotherhood.

But we need not rely on myth or revelation to know that we now chart our own destiny: science and technology too inform us that we will soon have the capacity to alter our own genetic code, extend our life expectancy, and expand our capabilities far beyond those nature has bestowed on us. Already we do not need wings to fly above the mountaintops, nor gills to swim the depths of the sea. We can throw our voices around the world at the speed of light, transmute matter to energy in nuclear reactors (and bombs), stroll on the surface of the moon.

We have superseded natural selection. Where once we were at the mercy of our environment, now our environment is at our mercy.

And therein lies the rub: we have become powerful enough to make ourselves extinct, and we stand shuddering at the doorway to this brave new world because we are scared silly that we might do just that!


What will we become?

We have grown in knowledge and power beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors, but our wisdom has not kept pace. In fact, it might be argued that human wisdom has taken giant steps backward since the astrological, shamanistic and mystical traditions that flowered thousands of years ago!

Our politics today are still based on the model of domination-oriented city-states that characterized the ancient Sumerian empire, our economics are still based on the same model of amassing personal wealth, our interpersonal relationships are still based on possessiveness and ego gratification.

The day of reckoning has come: unparalleled power without the wisdom to balance it is a mortal danger to all life. Unless our collective wisdom makes a quantum leap to match our Godlike power, we can look forward only to global warfare, totalitarian domination, and predatory consumption and waste-production, culminating in ecological suicide. What will we become?


A New Way of Thinking

The good news is, we are now at a turning point. Mankind is now in the process of shifting our normal state of awareness from an individual/ego point of view to a global/spiritual point of view, and our basic choice is to cooperate with that process and help it along, or to resist it. We can usher in a world transformed by Love and spirit, or see our world mired in the dark extremes of the unbalanced direction we have been heading. We get to choose.

The system of thought that has structured our collective reality until now is hierarchical organization:




This is the familiar "top down" model of organization that we use to structure nearly everything we think about. As you can see, it looks like a corporate organization chart among other things, with the CEO at the top and the workers at the bottom.

This is how we think about everything. It is how we organize scientific knowledge, how we classify library books, and how we organize our sports tournaments! It is also how we structure society, with kings, dictators and presidents at the top, bureacrats and the wealthy "upper class" in the middle, and the "unwashed masses (peasants) at the bottom. It is a "pecking order" view of reality.

There is nothing wrong with hierarchy - it is a mental tool that has served us well in many ways, making scientific progress possible and enabling our rational mastery of many challenges of the material world. But, like the once-useful notions of a flat earth in the center of the universe, it has outlived its usefulness as a model of reality.

The Universe as we are coming to understand it now is not a competition for position in a pecking order, but a harmonious unfolding of creative potential as separate "parts" merge into greater "wholes." The new consciousness sees the world through holistic eyes, as a holarchy rather than a hierarchy. In a holarchy, every element is in direct communication with every other element, but none are "above" or "below" each other. The relationships are not among superiors and subordinates, but rather among essentially equal "parts" and the "whole" that emerges from them.




In a hierarchy, order is imposed from the top down. In a holarchy, order emerges from the bottom up. When a studio producer hires musicians, assigns them parts to play, and hands out musical scores, that's hierarchy. When several musicians get together to jam and they gradually develop a "groove" together, that's holarchy.



Parts and Wholes

Every part is a whole, and every whole is a part. Anything you can think of - a toaster, a galaxy, a supermarket, or your next door neighbor - is a "whole" made up of "parts." At the same time, it is also part of a larger whole, or perhaps many larger wholes. Your next door neighbor, for example, is a part of the human race (or so we hope!) What's more, every whole is similar to every other whole in some respects.

For example, atoms are composed of many sub-atomic particles such as protons and electrons. In turn, each "whole" atom is itself a "part" of a larger whole, such as a molecule. Going up the scale, the molecule is part of a cell, the cell is part of an animal, the animal is part of the living planet, and the planet is part of the solar system. And oddly enough, the electrons circling the nucleus of the atom bear a strange resemblance to the planets circling the Sun!

Every part is a whole, and every whole is a part.


The Global Mind

Conscious Evolution is the evolution of consciousness to the next stage of awareness - the "awakening" of the parts to their awareness as a whole. Simply put, we are now living through the birth pains of the planetary mind!

Of course, this is not a new concept - the idea that "we are all ONE" is the fundamental notion of all mystical thought. But until now it has often been seen as a threatening idea, because it implies that we will lose our individual identities while being absorbed into a mystical one-ness with all life. We are afraid to take this leap for the same reason we are afraid to die, even though we "believe" in eternal life. The ego has been all-powerful for a long time, and it likes it that way!

But the new consciousness is showing us that this is an unfounded fear ... wholes emerge from their parts, they do not replace them! A single cell of my body is a living "creature" in itself, but when it joins with other cells to create a "higher" organism (me!) it doesn't lose anything of itself. It still has its own "identity" - its own boundaries, and its own limited consciousness - but to that is added the newly emergent properties of a human being, including my greater range of conscious awareness.

When the transcendant global mind emerges from our individual consciousnesses, we will not "lose" ourselves - instead, we will gain a perspective that puts an end to all war and hatred and the thousand-and-one faces of man's inhumanity to man. Can you imagine the cells of your right hand going to war against the cells of your left hand? Of course not! Nor will I harm my brother when I know in the very core of my being that to harm him is to harm myself.

Having taken the leap of Conscious Evolution, we still look out on the world through the same eyes in the same familiar body. But we know that the "I" who looks out through these eyes is the same "I" who looks out through all eyes. We identify ourselves as something much larger than our individual bodies and egos ... and that makes all the difference!


From here to there

The mission of the Conscious Evolution website is to support this transition, both intellectually and through concrete activities and spiritual practices that aid the emergence of the new consciousness.

The features, articles, and discussions you will find here support this mission in an eclectic way, through traditional approaches like astrology and other spiritual paths, as well as state-of-the art insights drawn from general systems theory, cybernetics and quantum physics. There are many paths up the mountain, but the view from the summit is all the same. Call it cosmic consciousness, enlightenment, union with God ... or call it Love.


Welcome to Conscious Evolution!