Almost forgot, my Chiron is conjunct my Jupiter. Come to think of it, I've seen a real Jupiter influence affecting my life over the past year. I need to check out the transits....

Hi Everyone!!!

I have Chiron in Gemini in the 7th house... Any idea on what that might mean?

*hugs* for all!!!
Carrie

Hi Everyone
Hope you're all having a great weekend

Hmmm I've checked out a few sites re Chiron but can't find any that give the house and sign explanations.........

Can anyone tell me what Saggi Chiron in the 4th house means? Thank you
Chat later
Love
Sue

I just looked at the Martin Lass site and think it's curious that he doesn't talk about chiron in the houses, which would show the area of activity the process is taking place in. Since I have been looking at my ex's chart lately she has chiron in the 4th house in Aquarius but also has her part of fortune there. She grew up in a disfunctional family and has a lot of issues with her father and still has problems forgiving him (not physical abuse I should add). Perhaps with the part of fortune in the same house it shows the area in which she can also be healed?

Hi...
My Chiron is in Taurus and in 7 th house what does it mean?

Hi Everyone!

It has taken me awhile to get back to Lindaland with enough time I can sit and work on this.

Rainbow^
Let me start with you:
Chiron in Gemini
A deep wound of feeling unintelligent, stupid, slow, not as smart as others. Also, can be a feeling of inability to communicate clearly or effectively to others. You strive to know with ceaseless fervour. Something inside you is wishing to be understood and heard by others.

Suggestion: Make a list of areas where you have great knowledge. Don't accept 'I don't know' for an answer. Keep digging within to find where your true deep knowledge lies. Also, list those around you that learn from you and your knowledge and wisdom. How does your knowledge in any given area serve others?

The Gift: The deep pursuit of knowledge and the ability to communicate wisdom to others. The acknowledgement of your own 'knowing' that lies in your Heart, beyond words. This communicates to others without words.

Chiron in Scorpio or the 8th house
A deep wound of great loss or death. Something or someone died from your life early on. The feeling that something inside you has died or been cut out, that your Heart is broken beyond repair. The fear that what you have could be taken from you in a moment.

Suggestion: Take the thing or person that was lost or died and list the things that you miss. For each one, list the ways in which what you miss is still present in your life. The form that it takes may be different from what you would expect, but it is there. Keep asking until you find it. Then list the ways the sense of 'missingness' has driven you to the acknowledgement and expression of your special gifts.

The Gift: The expansion of your understanding of yourself. The bringing out of unacknowledged Gifts. The eventual realisation that nothing truly dies only the form changes spirit and Love is eternal and always available to your open Heart.

Rainbow, let me know if this applies to you and also look up your part of fortune, so I can check out my theory.

LOve Pas

Sorcress50 Your turn:

Chiron in Capricorn
The wound of feeling that you are not recognised, acknowledged or heard. The feeling that no-one listens to you, that no-one recognises your value, that you are not appreciated for what have to offer and what you give to others.

Suggestion: List the ways in which you are acknowledged and appreciated by others. How do others hear you and how does that benefit you and them. Keep listing. Also, make a list of what your value is. Acknowledge your value. Then, for each instance where you feel you are not valued, recognised or heard, list the ways in which this has helped you to value, recognise and hear yourself.

The Gift: Ultimately, the acknowledgement of your own value. To recognise yourself and where your gifts lie. To listen and hear the messages of your Heart. To help others to do the same.

Chiron in Scorpio or in the 8th house
A deep wound of great loss or death. Something or someone died from your life early on. The feeling that something inside you has died or been cut out, that your Heart is broken beyond repair. The fear that what you have could be taken from you in a moment.

Suggestion: Take the thing or person that was lost or died and list the things that you miss. For each one, list the ways in which what you miss is still present in your life. The form that it takes may be different from what you would expect, but it is there. Keep asking until you find it. Then list the ways the sense of 'missingness' has driven you to the acknowledgement and expression of your special gifts.

The Gift: The expansion of your understanding of yourself. The bringing out of unacknowledged Gifts. The eventual realisation that nothing truly dies only the form changes spirit and Love is eternal and always available to your open Heart.

Sorceress, let me know if it applies and where your part of fortune is.

Love Pas

Ani, let me work on yours a little longer, I have some studying I have to do on it.

I am beginning to think that maybe if there is a conjunct between PF and Chiron then your healing is also your fortune.

A square in your case hmmm, I think I need to meditate on it for a little while. Maybe that on your path in life you will have some wounding to overcome. I liked your idea a lot, that just might be it.

Let's all work on this together maybe with everyone's input we can formulate interpretations in Chiron and break some new ground. Doesn't that sound exciting!

Love Pas

Arya,

Since you feel that cancer in 11th house fits you better I will look at it. Did you notice any more aspects especially between Chiron and PF?

I wonder, I am only musing here, maybe the conjunction of Chiron to Jupiter means you will be lucky in your healing process, or, you have the capability of expading greatly during your healing process. Hmmmm, I don't know it is interesting though.

Biss sweetie!

Tell me how you feel it is negative?

I liked the way Martin Lass has it set up:
The wound first
Suggestions in how to heal it
The gift of Chiron or the lesson learned.

LOve Ya!
Pas

Hi Carrie!

By the way loved your pictures you posted awhile back. YOu are a beautiful young lady!
As well as intelligent!

Chiron in Gemini
A deep wound of feeling unintelligent, stupid, slow, not as smart as others. Also, can be a feeling of inability to communicate clearly or effectively to others. You strive to know with ceaseless fervour. Something inside you is wishing to be understood and heard by others.

Suggestion: Make a list of areas where you have great knowledge. Don't accept 'I don't know' for an answer. Keep digging within to find where your true deep knowledge lies. Also, list those around you that learn from you and your knowledge and wisdom. How does your knowledge in any given area serve others?

The Gift: The deep pursuit of knowledge and the ability to communicate wisdom to others. The acknowledgement of your own 'knowing' that lies in your Heart, beyond words. This communicates to others without words.

Chiron in Libra
The feeling that you cannot relate to others properly. Relationships seem to always go wrong. Peace seems to always be disrupted by others or yourself. You fear that you will never find the 'right person'.

Suggestion: Make a list of the 'positive' things that you have given others in relationships. Keep listing until your Heart opens. For each of your perceived 'failures', list the benefits, lessons and gifts that resulted from them, for others and for yourself. For all the times when peace was disrupted, list the benefits to you and others that it was so. Also, make a short list of attributes of a perfect partner for you. Then, for each one, list the ways in which you have these attributes in you.

The Gift: The realisation that you are whole as you are. The appreciation that independence and dependence are inseparable and always equally balanced. The acknowledgement that Love can take many forms in relationship not always the usual view of peace and harmony.

Tell me if you think it applies to you. I am curious to see because I did a friend of mine's chiron and it is in the 7th house of Gemini and it comes real close to describing him.

Your Friend
Pas

Hi Cat!
Chiron in Sagittarius
The feeling that you have no wisdom or deep understanding. Also, the feeling that you are an eagle inside, but are tied to a tether and cannot fly. The feeling that life was meant to glorious, an adventure, but something went wrong in your case.

Suggestion: List the ways in which you are wise and have deep understanding. List the ways in which others benefit from your wisdom. Keep digging for ways until your Heart opens and you acknowledge the wisdom that lies in your Heart. Also, list the ways in which you fly in which you scale the heights of human endeavour the ways in which your life is an adventure.

The Gift: The discovery and acknowledgement of the great wisdom that lies in your Heart. The realisation that adventure and joy of life is to be had, no matter where you are or what you are doing. The adventure is inside, given to you by the universe.

Chiron in Cancer or 4th house
This wound is a bottom pit that no amount of love seems able to fill. The feeling of being unwanted, unloved, not nurtured or not looked after. You try to rescue the unloved in you and in the world around you.

Suggestion: Make a list of those people that love you. For each, list the ways that they show or have shown their love. Where you feel a lack of love, list the ways that this has helped you to turn to the undying love that lies deep in your own Heart. The wellspring of Love is in you, not outside you. For those that you would try to rescue, list the ways that their predicament is serving them to awaken their own Hearts.

The Gift: The discovery of the infinite Love that lies within your Heart, waiting for you to acknowledge it. You are Love. The gradual understanding that all things in life serve to turn you back to that Love within.

Let me know Cat what you think, I am wanting to see how close Lass's interpretations are of Chiron. So far it is the only interpretaions I have found!

Your Friend
Pas

Silk Route,

Here it is:
Chiron in Taurus
A wound of feeling that you have never been given enough-materially, emotionally, mentally or spiritually. Ultimately, your Heart feels neglected and undernourished. Others seem to get more than you no matter what you do.

Suggestion: Make a list of what you have received in your life, particularly from your parents and loved ones. Keep listing until you can acknowledge the abundance that the universe has provided for you with Gratitude and Love. For those that you feel have not given you your due, list the ways in which not receiving has helped you to acknowledge the true abundance that lies inside you-in your Heart.

The Gift: The acknowledgement of the abundance of Love that lies within your Heart the universe provides. You were created in Love to express Love. There is no end to Love.

Chiron in Libra or 7th house
The feeling that you cannot relate to others properly. Relationships seem to always go wrong. Peace seems to always be disrupted by others or yourself. You fear that you will never find the 'right person'.

Suggestion: Make a list of the 'positive' things that you have given others in relationships. Keep listing until your Heart opens. For each of your perceived 'failures', list the benefits, lessons and gifts that resulted from them, for others and for yourself. For all the times when peace was disrupted, list the benefits to you and others that it was so. Also, make a short list of attributes of a perfect partner for you. Then, for each one, list the ways in which you have these attributes in you.

The Gift: The realisation that you are whole as you are. The appreciation that independence and dependence are inseparable and always equally balanced. The acknowledgement that Love can take many forms in relationship not always the usual view of peace and harmony.

Vathek,

Is your Girlfriend's PF in the same sign and house as her Chiron?

This is the case of my sister and it seems once her healing process began she began following her path in life. Her wound and her path are 'Karmically' tied.

Here are the interpretations, please let me know what you think and if it applies to your girlfriend.

Chiron in Aquarius
A sense of disconnection, distance, isolation and alienation from the world and from the universe. Feeling different, like an outsider or alien. Cannot seem to relate to others the way others do. Feel lost in the crowd and unable to fit in.

Suggestion: List the special ways in which you are connected to life, to others, to the world and to the universe. List the benefits and gifts of feeling alone, isolated, alienated and disconnected. Keep digging it seems hard, but the benefits and gifts are there. Also, list the ways in which your 'differentness' is a gift and blessing to you and to others.

The Gift: The development of an objective and original viewpoint towards life. The eventual realisation of the interconnectedness of everything. The acknowledgement of your special unique gifts. An appreciation of your individuality.

Chiron in Cancer or 4th house
This wound is a bottom pit that no amount of love seems able to fill. The feeling of being unwanted, unloved, not nurtured or not looked after. You try to rescue the unloved in you and in the world around you.

Suggestion: Make a list of those people that love you. For each, list the ways that they show or have shown their love. Where you feel a lack of love, list the ways that this has helped you to turn to the undying love that lies deep in your own Heart. The wellspring of Love is in you, not outside you. For those that you would try to rescue, list the ways that their predicament is serving them to awaken their own Hearts.

The Gift: The discovery of the infinite Love that lies within your Heart, waiting for you to acknowledge it. You are Love. The gradual understanding that all things in life serve to turn you back to that Love within.

I don't know if you already have the part of fortune but I will go ahead and post it too.

In Aquarius Part of fortune
Cultivate objectivity, originality, and humanitarianism. Your gift is your unconventionality and ability to understand that difference is neutral. For you, one thing doesn't have to be better or worse than another. You are not bound by expectation, social taboos or the predictable. Your joy is in the truth that anything is possible. Rejoice in your 'difference' and any seemingly off-the-wall desires and ideas for these will lead to the realization of your dreams.

4th House Part of Fortune
Your greatest joy will come from nourishing beginnings. You understand the need to nourish the seeds to fruition and derive great satisfaction from doing so. Cultivate a strong inner foundation from which you can give birth to all your creative endeavors. You'll always find delight in those first steps. Your fortune can come from a parent, heritage, or ancestors or it may rest in the fulfillment that is derived from being in touch with the roots of the soul.

Your Friend
Pas

Pasquale.....

Thank you so much for taking time to tell me about my Chriron in Gemini in the 8th house...You are such a dear to take the time to tell each and every one of us about this.....I know that takes a lot of time....and I want you to know I really APPRECIATE it! Thanks, again....

I guess maybe the Gemini part is correct, tho I wasn't consciously aware of it...but sometime I do feel DUMB!

and the part about feeling that something will be taken away from me...yes, that is true...

Thanks again....

Love,
Rainbow~

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Hi Pasquale
Thank you soo much for that.

Actually it totally "freaked/spooked" me.
Long childhood and repetitive behaviour situation. If you are really "studying" this then get my email from Greg and I'll talk to you about it.

One final (for now ) question.
What is the relevance of the point of fortune with all of this??
Mine is in Gemini in the 9th.

What book did you say you got this info from....I'm now soooo spooked can't remember if you've mentioned it here on this thread and not got time to read everything as got to go as need to do something.
Thanks again Pas
Ciao for now
Sue

pasquale,
You're really rockin' here. To answer your question, there is a quintile aspect between my PF and Chiron. I don't know much about this aspect other than that it can mean creative transformation, which makes sense if you think of transforming your wound to make it your source of power. Strong in the broken places, that sort of thing....

Hi Pasquale!!!

Thank you soooo much!!! The interpretation very closely describes me!!! I am always striving for knowledge and with my Virgo Sun and Mercury helping out, I generally find it!!! lol. And actually my friends usually do come to me if they need someone to listen to them and help them out. And the 7th house Chiron was right too, in that I do feel a need to have peace and harmony in relationships, and often feel like I'm getting the short end of the stick in that department. So thank you for that interpretation Pasquale!!! You have helped me out a lot.

GREAT BIG *hugs* for you!!!
Carrie

hi pasquale,

the details about chiron in taurus ring quite true to me, i think about it all the time :-/ i am curious what the details are with having it in the 11th house?

in love and light,

amy

Pasquale: Are you a paesan? My family came from near Rome.

Actually, this is my ex wife. Her pf and chiron are in the same house and sign.
The info you provided seems to ring true. She could never get her fathers (4th house?) love, no matter how hard she tried. She had very low self esteem, although she hid that very well and compensated for it by being a high achiever workaholic. Her father died about 10 years ago and she is still working on forgiving him. She also told me once she didn't know how I could love her. She also had to be in a respirator for the first month of her life and her mother was afraid to pick her up, so she had no physical contact with her mother all that time.
She has made a lot of progress on the other stuff though. It's also interesting to note that for those of you who feel that you will always be connected to someone it's much better to have it be positive. Thanks for the info and the time. Also, for anyone who doesn't believe in astrology, the validation of this info on this site is more than proof for me.

Pasquale, thanks for sharing such great info. I am going to archive this thread in my hard disk.

Incidentally, I never got around to asking what you ultimately did for the whole of last week - the one when you were totally free. Did you write that poem you long intended to? I guess you researched Chiron and PF. What else?

Pasquale,
You are so sweet. I have not found this info on any site, and it is quite an effort to post it. Thanks
Rainbow~,
My youngest Cancer son has chiron in Gemini as well, and as his mother, I always felt he underestimated himself, and though he can be smart, the "I don't know", is his logan/trade mark, fullstop , and we laugh it off, as I would always add: "do you know what your name is??" ,and it does get on my nerves 9 out of 10 times ( quoting someone on this site )
Also his inability to communicate clearly or effectively to others rings a bell...!
.... so does my other son's chiron in taurus......, amazing
Thanks again Pasquale
rainbow

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Hi!
What an intersting topic! Thank you! I never learn much abouth Chiron before.
My Chiron is in Pisces in 4.house, oppsite to nodes in 9.house and Pluto at the cups of the 10.house. What`s that mean to me?
My ex-boyfriend ( I still love him) have is Chiron in conj. with his sun in Aries in 10.house, opposite Uranus in 4.house. What`s that mean to him? And can Chiron maybe do some teaching between people, that can been seen in synastri-horoskop? If that`s so...
What does Chiron means for us?

Love from Ariel :]

rainbow.....

I communicate well enough as long as I can write what I am thinking, but when I'm on my feet, the words don't come to me as easily....I'm not QUICK with words, cuz I usually have to do a lot of thinking before I say what I mean to say.....that's why it's easier to write, cuz it gives me time to think....before I express myself...

Love,
Rainbow~

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WOW Pasquale...!!!
That was right on the Money..

Thanks for all your help..
are You an astrologer?

Thanks again...