#41419 - 09/05/01 10:17 AM
Happily Ever After?
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Hi, everyone! We are very lucky to be alive at this juncture in herstory, as the Earth is reaching a pivotal point in raising the vibrational frequency of all of us. Many are currently finding their Twins (and many more will in the not-so-distant future). What do you Knowflakes think about all the tragic stories about Twins? It seems like the Love is a new dimension and at a greater depth, but so is the pain. Do we meet our Twins several times (until we get it right)? Is the Love of meeting a Twin just so overwhelming that it's difficult to handle? Or is it just that maybe it's only the bad stories that we hear about, and the happy tales go unnoticed? My mind goes back to Linda's Twin adventures in Gooberz. So much Love, so much pain, and through it all a new transformation took place. I feel that all experiences are good, because the Soul is here to experience, but can Twin reunions actually sometimes make for smooth sailing (for the most part), and can happily ever after exist? Or are Twin relationships synonymous with tests, trials, and Soul Lessons? I don't know any of the answers, but I would really Love to here what others think about this. I'm confused! 
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One ship sails east and another west while the self-same breezes blow,
'Tis the set of the sail and not the gale that bids them where they go.
As the winds of the air are the ways of fate as we voyage along through life,
'Tis the set of the soul that decides our goal and not the storm and strife.
--Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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#41420 - 09/05/01 01:04 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Randall]
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I know a couple - he's 84 and she's 80 and they've been married for 60 years and have always been very devoted to each other and have what seems to be a pretty sweet relationship. I certainly think they are soulmates as much as anyone. I don't believe it always needs to be about conflict, pain etc. I think sometimes we throw ourselves a cookie. It's just that contented people rarely seek out answers.
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#41421 - 09/05/01 04:36 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: vathek]
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wOw! Sixty years of bliss. Sounds great! Maybe the Key is just for both people to really want it to last and to work hard make it happen? I'm sure they are definitely Soul Mates at least. Maybe not all Twin relationships are so challenging that they fail. Maybe there's a lot more going on in this world that we don't hear about. After all, Love is magick. Like Linda said, EXPECT A MIRACLE. Don't hope for it or wish for it, but expect it. 
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One ship sails east and another west while the self-same breezes blow,
'Tis the set of the sail and not the gale that bids them where they go.
As the winds of the air are the ways of fate as we voyage along through life,
'Tis the set of the soul that decides our goal and not the storm and strife.
--Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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#41422 - 09/05/01 06:00 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Randall]
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Registered: 03/01/00
Posts: 3486
Loc: Portland,OR,USA
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Hey Randal,  My favorite subject. I can’t say I buy the twinmate stuff but soulmates are everywhere now days. And some of them are difficult to deal with. It’s like you go about your business but this background mental process is eating away at your soul (caused by a serious of meetings or sync’s or astro-talks) and then when the brain has the story and reason ready to present to your consciousness, wham. You fold over and twist and shout and squirm. It’s hard to say if the soul is growing and stretching the personality or the personality is growing to fit the soul. It’s like a multi-Sun burn / Suntan. Some spots are just right, some look like bubble wrap, some are peeling in a flaky way or that sheet rip type that pulls the hair off your arm. I think a lot of the difficultly about soul tests are that we all think it is so personal and the subject matter is of so realistic in content, superseding the usual customs of the time. Each one of us has that dark 8th abyss to conquer or the 1st ego or emotional self or the 10th fame and fortune craving. What ever it is for the person, and then compound that with a unique relationship, it becomes very difficult to explain. So unless you’re talking apples and apples, another, at least we feel that another won’t understand what we are going through. And I’m talking about other LG types, don’t even bother with the common people as they are all twisting and squirming underneath and so brainwashed that, well, it’s like the little girls that go around half nude, dressed as celebrities, singing songs about sex, moving and shaking, all that stuff, when in fact they don’t know their own feelings about most subjects. They don’t know what love is, never been loved, never been IN love. OH man, this could go on for pages. On my trip I ran into about 4 soulmates. Two were like the soul testing mystery kind. One was friendly old friend just passing by, and the 4th was a temptation whacking at my deepest desires of all my 8th house progressed planets. I am getting pretty good at it now. It feels more like a nicotine withdrawal than the double over craps.  But the mystery of it all is when you know the other knows and they know you know and you both know that the other knows you know they know. Leaves you both standing there feeling rather vulnerable, right in front of others, and you can’t even talk about it. Not even to yourself, because your mind doesn’t have the words. Fells very much like raising your hand in class knowing you have the answer and afterwards finding out you were totally wrong. Like one of your lungs collapses and you can’t breath for a while. Like I said, pages and pages.  Darwin
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#41423 - 09/06/01 12:08 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: proxymoon]
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Hidi dooday Well perhaps having heavy planets in Virgo is causing people to be more pick pick picky about their relationships?? Clearly divorce statistics argue against the whole Tsoul thang. Pehaps our parents generation without Tsouls psyco bable were happier in the long run???? Lov n hugs Lis
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#41424 - 09/06/01 01:24 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: tinkerbell]
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Hi, Tink! I can tell you a lot about discriminating Virgos (I have a Virgo ascendant that makes me a bit of a perfectionist). I'm a real pain to my S-elf at times! Proxy, You make some very good points. Not much I can add to that except: "Quite!" 
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One ship sails east and another west while the self-same breezes blow,
'Tis the set of the sail and not the gale that bids them where they go.
As the winds of the air are the ways of fate as we voyage along through life,
'Tis the set of the soul that decides our goal and not the storm and strife.
--Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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#41426 - 09/06/01 02:24 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Aries]
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Registered: 06/30/00
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Ouch Dar, that one hurt. I know if I think hard enough the answer will be somewhat right. Can't I get partial credit or something. A "she tried really really hard badge." I've been a good girl I swear. No, really, I didn't actually hit that old guy doing 35 mph on the highway this afternoon. Ok, so I thought about it...HARD And...I may have gotten really, really close to his bumper, but he'll live. And I have to agree with Tink. There is something to the idea of the mundane. I can't help thinking about that Soulmate relationship 20 years down the road when she's got a presentation in the morning and he's snoring like grisley bear on steroids at three in the morning. I know it sounds boring, but you have to face it. It's all part of that big beautiful "golden grail" relationship. If we can't expect and except reality, love withers off into nothing more than an illusion. I'd rather wear ear plugs to bed. I once had someone tell me that true love "the real thing" is when you still love him even when what you're thinking about is running him over with your car. Beep Beep Love and Laughter, borderCAT
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#41427 - 09/06/01 05:53 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: borderCAT]
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Hi Randall  I'll admit that I'm not too sure on the existance of Twin-souls, but I see what you meant when you wondered if the "sad tales go unnoticed". I think that in life a lot of people confuse the meanings of true-love, soul-mates, etc., thinking that in order for it to be a perfect, soul-slamming union that it must be passionate at all times; a continuous fire that is so overwhelming to the souls involved that it MUST be a soul-mate or twin-mate union. Or a testing so intense that it's meaning and importance cannot be mistaken. But I think that a lot, if not most, soul-unions are much more subtle than that. The tests and lessons aren't always so obvious and may take years to actually sink in... and besides after the first few years of hot passion and angst, the true lessons of everyday come in to play. I mean, in long-term relationships each day is a test (some days moment-to-moment! ), and what seems on the surface as reactions to simple daily occurences are really the expressions of the deeper undercurrents of our soul's yearnings, needs, etc. So, to me, it would make sense that 2 soul's so intensly intertwined in eternity could easily live a single lifetime together here on Earth, through the everyday trials of work, and loss and pain--experiencing those things together, so therefore stregthening once again that bond that always pulls them towards each other... learning the greater lessons from each other that only time and experience can fulfill. It doesn't make front page news, it's not always exciting, but it's REAL and TRUE and so therefore meaningful in its own right. Lisa
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#41428 - 09/06/01 06:10 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: BlakeHeart]
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Loc: Portland,OR,USA
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Tinkerbell? – I don’t believe for a second that any generation is statistically more IN love as couples as another because I think that a very small percentage of the population is “Enlightened”. I do believe that the last 30 years has made it much too easy for people to live alone and therefore the sexes just don’t need each other like they used to. They occasionally want each other, use each other, and play with each other. The only difference between a man and a woman now days is that the woman gets away with a lot more, does a lot less work, causes more pollution, uses more resources and has an easy out of bad economically times by finding a man. A woman has more fun with less responsibility for their actions. A woman can do, say, or wear (or not wear) anything anywhere. Women say this being liberated. Many used their sexuality to gain favors but it has caught on with the younger guys and now the girls are treated like shit. Equal this and equal that. Married guys only pay half the mortgage, dating is dutch, tradition holidays are ignored. Sorry, but I think a lot of the Virgo and Saggy elements of the younger set totally suck. You’re a bunch of spoiled rotten brats.  Aries, - I wasn’t interested in her data. borderCat, - Hi OK, the story begins - My Mystery Mate of Moab. We were looking for a place to eat a late lunch when I spotted this strange restaurant complex. I knew I had to go in there but wasn’t sure why I wanted to. It was a tavern like place, a biker bar, and a western trinket shop. It was called something like Mr. Eddie’s or Eddie’s Place. I can’t remember now. The menu, like a lot of the tourist eateries, was bad, the service was bad. So I ordered a California Burger. Swiss Cheese, bacon and Guacamole. And my soulmate daughter looks at me with disgust and says to the waitress, “I’ll have the same thing.” We do that a lot. So I have no fork, no straws, and no napkins. I get up and go get straws. When I sit back down I see this Virgo woman sitting in a booth straight across from me, behind Rach, in a booth at about a 60-degree angle. She is squirming and moving around in her seat. I look down and a minute later I look up and she is staring at me. We go eye to eye for the full 8 seconds. I blinked first. After all, I had a burger to eat. I looked up in a minute and her boy friend was there. They were quite. He was a Taurus. She tried to get into conversation mode with him. She even put her hand on his face and pouched his lips together and smiled. But he was a hundred miles away. I looked up again and she was staring at me, eye to eye for, ops, the b/f caught her. She looks down and blushes. He looks over at me and I look down. So I get up to get napkins. I walk by real slow and take a closer look (ESP wise.) Yep, she’s a mate. I can almost here her thinking. I had an urge to offer her a napkin but passed on by and sit down. She looked over and saw the napkins. The b/f was watching out of the corner of his eye. He got and went and got napkins. After that I lost track and when I looked up again they were gone. About 4 hours later and 50 miles away I came up out a trailhead and there was my daughter talking to them. She had not seen them before so they were new people to her. I think they were just causally commenting about something. The b/f walked off the other way and my daughter turned and walks back another direction just as I walked up. So there I am face-to-face, eye-to-eye with the Virgo mate again. It was a pleasant but uneasy state as we both wanted to spill a terabyte of info to each other but only a few seconds passes until the b/f turns around and walks back. I don’t know if he remembered who I was or not. She quickly looks at me one last time in the eye and walks away towards him, and then they go over an edge onto a trail and disappear. I stood there for a few minutes thinking that I don’t need this right now and it’s all her problem. I’m on vacation damn it. So off I went. We had an early start that day and had completed about ¾ of the first half of the Arches Park. Rachel enrolled Niko in the Jr. Ranger program and he had to fill out a booklet that he had been completing throughout the day. Now it was time for him to watch a slide show and then he had to pick up a medium sized bag of garbage within the park. So I told Rach to take me back to the camp and I would deal with the coolers and ice, take a shower, have a nap, dream of Jennie with light brown hair, etc, and when they were finished we would be ready for the last few view points and a couple more hikes. So that is what happened. Now along about 7:00 pm we are driving off the mountain and Rach stops at these narrow rock cliffs that have a secret passage into the center. On the inside is red sand and dunes up the sides. She had been there before. We hike in about ½ mile and go inside. Walk about ¼ mile into the cliffs. We walk up one dune to a wall through an arch. Now Rachel gets a climbing bug and tells me to distract Niko while she climbs up this wall ledge and goes around to the top of the arch. In the mean time I deal with Niko and a little sand mermaid that he got a bit to aggressive with and pushed sand on her. So Niko goes back up the dune and sits down at the top. I can see him and I keep hearing dad, dad. Ever minute or so but I think it’s the wind blowing. Niko is not moving, just sitting. Well, it turns out to be Rachel on the ledge just above Niko wanting the camera. I walk up the dune, for the sixth time, get the camera out of her belt pack, stick it in Niko’s pocket and boost him up the ledge to her and they both climb on out of site. Now people are coming and going, by two usually, and there is always about 8-10 people there. Then this guy comes down from the arch the front way that ends in a 5-foot drop off the rock. He has a camera in his hand and walks towards me. I thoht he wanted me to take a picture of him and someone else. I waited with the camera and then said where are they. He said up on top of the arch. I back up until I can see the top. It’s Rachel and Niko. I said, OH, it’s my crew. Everyone had a chuckle getting things straight. So I clicked the picture and they are off again to come down. About 10 minutes later Rach and Niko come down the ledge and sure enough they tumble off the last few feet into the dune and roll down. A woman standing about 5 five away exclaims, “Oh, I wonder if I could climb up there? That looks like so much fun.” I look over and blurt out, "If they can do it you can. It’s a wonder those two are still alive.” She turns her head back to me. It’s the Virgo and we are both, you know, zzziiit, zzzitt, are surprised. Speechless actually. Three meetings is my gage for “We are supposed to meet, this person and me, for some reason. She walks over to her b/f and grabs his arm and drags him away about 10 ten feet more. They have a little talk. She takes off her belt pack, hands it to him with her water bottle, talks off her shoes and heads up the dune to the wall. He is squirming inside and out. He looks over at me. She starts up the ledge. He looks at me again. I look back. I look at her. I look back at him and make a face. Finally he shrugs and gives in. He heads up the dune to the wall. Piles their stuff at the top and starts up the ledge after her. Rach and Niko are walking out towards the exit. I start walking and look back one more time. They are leaning back off the edge holding on with one hand, her left, and his right, both smiling and giggling. The next morning was the second half of the Arches Park and it was a doozy. The first hike was 2 miles (I think it was 3 and a half. A 470-foot rise, yeah, all in the last half-mile up a big rock face. But I made it. That’s where I meet the friendly mate. She was from Seattle, WA. Only meet her twice on that trip. Once the trail and once on top by the arch. The third time was back in the parking lot. But that’s another thread. So, along about 6:00 we ended up at the last hike and it had three arches to see so it totaled about 1.2 miles one way. So I headed out way ahead of Rach and Niko because waiting on Niko’s side adventures would have wore me out. I made it back to the trailhead about 7:30. While waiting for them I got a drink and then decided to use the unisex restroom. There were two and I waited a minute to see if anyone came out. I started for the left one and a person came off the trail and got there first. I went around to the other. The door swings wide open. I stopped short and it whacks me in the head lightly. I step around to see the Virgo woman walking off to the parking lot. I watched her for a few seconds puzzled. I went inside to do my business and I looked down there was a purse on the floor. I hurried up. Grabbed the purse and jogged out to the parking lot looking for her. A car drove up the road and they were inside. They stopped and I went around to her side. I said, “You forgot something.” She reached for the purse and put her hand on mine and looked at me with those glassy gray blue eyes and said, “Thank you.” I said, “You’re welcome.” And they drove off. Sometimes soulmates meet just to get a boost up. Sometimes soulmates meet to affect another person. Sometimes it is very puzzling. But every time it is amazing. 
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#41429 - 09/06/01 09:58 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: proxymoon]
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Friend
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 167
Loc: Sweden
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Hello Randall* and Everybody*  Think the Twinsouls relationsship many time fails because of the old thinking of how a "relationsship" shall be ..... It's more easy to have a "normal" relationsship (long lasting) when living after the "rules" ..... If every one could see the "invisible" bound between Soulmates and Twinsouls*, it would be easier to know the real marriages and connections*  *Love* Angelika
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#41430 - 09/06/01 05:38 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: water]
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Archangel
Registered: 04/27/00
Posts: 7021
Loc: Old Oak Tree, Never Never Land
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hhhehehhe DArwin...I see mercury has you in her grips...hheheheh more words than i've ever seen form you...all punctuated by food...typical cappy!!! hehheheh No i'm sort of with you on the generations thing...but i do think the hole soul mate phylosophy can hinder you haveing new realtionships with people who are not TS. Not every realtionship you are destiend to have is gonna be a biggie!! As for disposable relationships...well there is a lot of them about. easy come easy go. But aht said don't knock the benefits of time by yourself. Lov n hugs Lis
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#41431 - 09/06/01 06:36 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: tinkerbell]
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Registered: 11/17/00
Posts: 1402
Loc: Norcross, Georgia, USA
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I certainly agree. it can be REALLY painful...  But Sometimes Your Twin Soul can Save you from Your Own Inner devil.. If you are lucky. Actually they can Come and Change your life forever and then You might lose Your Twin soul.. They might be THERE in A PERTICULAR Time.. for you.. For a PERTICULAR reason.. and when its done.. He/she might be *GONE* AND THATS the PAINFULPart. What do you say Aries ? Well I think the Transits indicates when you'll meet your Twin soul... I met my (possible) Twin Soul when Pluto Was EXACTLY over my VENUS...and its still there.. and Pluto Also Just Touched his Mars(finished touching actually).. at that time.. too..  What do you think? Take care... Sonia
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#41432 - 09/06/01 06:41 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Silk_route]
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Loc: San Antonio, TX, USA
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Randall, I don't know and I can't pretend I know how I locked into such a wonderful marriage. Maybe my venus in the 7th, blessed me. My husband and I knew we were for each other the moment we met. We are so comfortable with each other and we know each others thoughts. I understand what it means when they say as one. Are we twin souls? Soulmates? I don't know. I believe so many people have high expectations of how a relationship is supposed to be that they don't let it be. All I know is I love him with all my heart and will love him till the day I die.
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Snowflakes are one of nature's most fragile things, but just look what they can do when they stick together.
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#41433 - 09/06/01 06:59 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: pasquale]
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Archangel
Registered: 04/27/00
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Loc: Old Oak Tree, Never Never Land
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Randall..... Is it me or do we have an AWFUL lot of astrology going on????? hmmmm Lis  hehehehe
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#41434 - 09/06/01 07:32 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: tinkerbell]
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Registered: 02/20/99
Posts: 6619
Loc: North Bend, WA USA
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As explained by Linda, your Twin S-elf is the OTHER HALF of the you-of-you, the Snowflake of your Higher S-elf. In the process of becoming "fallen Angels," each of the two halves has been further divided into multiple separate "soul pieces," which repeatedly encounter each other through many lifetimes in order to teach and learn. These pieces are what we refer to as "soul mates" or members of our spiritual family. It is not until we have assimilated all these lessons, worked out all the issues with all our soul mates and reassembled the pieces (or in modern psych-speak, achieved complete personal integration) that the POSSIBILITY of Twin S-elf reunion exists, because that is the final joining of the two COMPLETE souls, the male and female halves of our true S-elf. quote: there are two searching patterns which appear today upon the Earthone involves the twin souls . . or Soul pieces seeking each other the other involves those Higher Selves the Snowflake seeking to become whole after all the original Soul pieces of each Snowflake half have returned to the guidance of the original 'I' or 'O' from which they were separated long ago - Linda Goodman, Gooberz
Viewed from this perspective, if we start thinking of reuniting with our Twin S-elf as the same thing as having a happy romance, I think we are trivializing it. I think we will find and reunite with our Twin S-elves when we have learned ALL our Earthly lessons, and not before. The reunion of Twin S-elves is the reconciliation of all opposites. It is both the highest goal to which we may aspire individually AND the ultimate destiny of mankind as a whole. With the reunion ot Twin S-elves comes the end to war, hate, disharmony and discord on Earth. This is a really big thing -- it's not just the "deluxe version" of going steady! It is THE BIG THING. In fact it's THE BIG THING TO END ALL BIG THINGS, because when you are reunited with your Twin S-elf, you have completely balanced and harmonized all polarity within your s-elf. You no longer lack for anything, you no longer perceive conflict in the world, you have no enemies, you no longer see strife, injustice, discord, pain, poverty, disease or death in the world. It is the big banana, the ultimate Illumination. Maybe I've wandered to far afield, but in answer to the original question that started this thread ("are Twin relationships synonymous with tests, trials, and Soul Lessons?") I think the answer is yes. I don't think we can have a peaceful, happy relationship with our Twin S-elf until we have first mastered all the necessary lessons and attained a degree of inner harmony and illumination that we associate with Ascended Masters! And I think if we DO meet our Twins before that time, then the relationship will necessarily be about learning difficult lessons, and that's why there is so much tragedy associated with Twin S-elf stories and experiences. Now I don't think that means that happy, lasting marriages are impossible ... far from it. I am blessed with one myself! And Pasqules words about letting love shine through without attaching expectations to it ring with wisdom and truth. I think that to truly love ANYONE - deeply, unreservedly, and with undying commitment - is to move closer to that final reunion with the Twin S-elf. I think the idea that "first I'll find my Twin S-elf, then I'll know love and be happy" is putting the cart before the horse. I think that FIRST we learn love, THEN we may be reunited with our Twin. Greg
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#41435 - 09/06/01 07:52 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Gregory]
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Registered: 07/30/01
Posts: 47
Loc: Oregon
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WOW!! Thank's Gregory, That explains alot. I always wondered why the two soul mates that are in my life feel like a part of me....but not the other half of myself. Love, Chandra
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#41436 - 09/06/01 08:33 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: chandra2]
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Registered: 01/10/01
Posts: 2404
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to tell you the truth - all these chattings about soul mates, twin souls, twin soul brothers,twin-selfs,twin love, twin-everything, , ect.( oh how sick I am of it) is just a mere excuse for everything that doesn`t go our way - oh, you say - our love is so difficult and painful because we are soulmates and have to overcome something we did in our past life, it`s not because we are not for each other, it`s not because our temperaments are so different - it`s because of our past life`s mistakes..now we have to pay for it..oh, that has to be the problem  and so on... just leave the past to the past and live your life now - can you consciously apply your past life expriences in your present life ???I don`t think so..you are what you are and cannot change it despit whatever you have been or done in your past life.. and please - the statment we meet our soul mates here and there almost every day...come on ..that makes me reall sick  love and light and fireworks, 
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#41437 - 09/06/01 10:23 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Jazze]
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Loc: Portland,OR,USA
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Biss,  Greg,  Soulmates in general are those that we lean from (and, as I feel, remind one another of the mystery of life.) and teach to, or soulmates maybe a beacon for others needs. It’s a temporary thing. Soulmates, marriage and sex. Three completely different levels. You meet soulmates for the soul's need. You can have sex with anyone. And marriage is a choice for services and reasons defined between two people. May or may not fit well. The degree of maturity, security, knowledge, many things determine the marriage longevity. Now, soul pieces? How can soul pieces come together? It can’t be a physical thing only a transfer of knowledge to the soul. Twin S-elfs? Is my twin a lot like me or completely different than me? I wouldn’t want to be with someone that was either way. So what is a twin? Let’s say Twinmate. Twinsoul? Two souls with all the right stuff for that set of souls to merge? Maybe, then the body and the personality traits can vary. And I agree with Biss, you can’t live yesterday over and we are not punished for past lives. We are here and now and just need to balance our soul. We may have chosen an extreme physical personality to get the conditions for that to occur (like a Biss did. ) or we may be close to a break through, on a special mission, here for someone else, lots of possibilities. If we didn’t chose our life, then Astrology is a bunch of crap and we all gonna die. I think life is simpler that we need to label it. I don’t need to be in long robes and talk weird to be a master of my soul and my twin can wear mini skirts and short shorts (or not). It’s all on the inside. Remember that saying about Entertaining Angels unaware. I recall a movie called the Seventh Sign about how Jesus comes back with the seven last seals and walks to these remote locations and breaks a seal. And Demi More is going to have the last child ever born because the soul vending machine is empty. Well, on my way home I stopped in Salt Lake, Utah. Home of the Mormons. Or Latter Day Saints? I went into the temple and assembly hall, walked all over the place. The only master I saw was a 10 year old girl. One of the other soulmates I meet on my trip. We kept running into each other all over the North rim lodges of the Grand Cannon. I go around a corner or look behind a wall or go to pick out a post card, get a pop, a drink of water, and there she was. Smiling at me like a mysterious Angel. We meet again 100 miles away at a restaurant while stopping for gas. She was with her mom and little sister and a second SUV, probably Grand parents and Uncle. It seemed like they were oblivious puppets, her ontra-crew in life. I don’t know what it means, but I can tell the difference between a reflector and a beaming light. So Biss, who are these people I meet three or more times with a distinct call signature of my psychic, if not soulmates of some sort. I mean I recognized you right away. Cousinmate.  Darwin
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#41438 - 09/06/01 11:28 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/10/01
Posts: 2404
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cousinmate  smoother you! we all see and hear what we want to see and hear, that what happens to you too..  ...if it wasn`t that way - we would have been able to operate with our brain more then that poorly 3%..how % do you operate with? 
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#41439 - 09/07/01 07:27 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
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Archangel
Registered: 03/01/00
Posts: 3486
Loc: Portland,OR,USA
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Oh Biss,  You predicable Virgo / Libra brain. I knew you bring up the numbers. One of the main reasons I only use a small percent of MY brain for real science is because I use a great deal of it flip flopping back and forth over exactly that concept. I say to myself on a given day, Self, watch the Neptune imagination, watch the ACS/Pluto Ego, or watch the Mercury tongue. You can over come the chart and be the master of your destiny, etc, blah, blah, blah. Then I turn around, in hind sight, look at my chart, and see Neptune in my 6th house, Uranus in my 7th, the Moon on my MC and NN, Saturn on the 11th cusp with the NN and Jupiter and finally, Venus approaching my ACS. So I think, no wonder I’m a happy go lucky flighty flirt without a career plan or close relationship. It’s right there in the chart. So then I think, shoot, if you really can’t fight the chart may as well be what you are even if the Virgo church ladies faint. So, this entire bottom, top, left and right of the chart to indicate introvert, extrovert, master of soul, or in the hands of fate doesn’t matter one bit. Because everything is right, and everything is wrong. It all depends on what one thinks and feels about it, and why is matters (Pat! , I finally got it.). So, for example, you as an action packed in your face type of person, banging your head against the relationships wall, control freak to the max, has slowly tried a little of my stuff. And me, the pink dusty cloud of never never land has tried a little of your stuff. And, wa la, things go better with joke! Meaning, we adjust as needed to fit in to what matters to us as a unit of humanity, whatever the size or reason. Otherwise, everything is right and everything is wrong. Astrology, Religion, politics, science, health. Sex, marriage, driving fast. They are all right and all wrong depending on how right or wrong you are inside in relationship to what matters to you. And this makes perfect since, because a perfect God, Group conscientiousness, or an eco-system would be perfect only if all paths and concepts lead to the same point. Whoa! I am a freakin’ Genius. Praise God Earth, Mom and Dad. Love and Perfection, Darwin
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#41440 - 09/07/01 08:34 PM
Re: Happily Ever After?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/10/01
Posts: 2404
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Darwin, your rose-colored glasses working over time....you need action action action action action action action action action action action action action action actiooooon ....  and I desperately need an outlet..please, give me your cheek 
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Bissie
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#41441 - 09/08/01 02:19 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
[Re: Jazze]
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Archangel
Registered: 02/28/00
Posts: 6397
Loc: Canuckistan
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aww Biss, dont be that way!  ...soulmates are as real as the hair on your chest.. And although I have yet to see the "proof" (blame it on my progressed Virgo moon  ) of Lindas theories on the twinsoul...IF there is such a thing, then what Greg has to say is the best dang post Ive seen on this site!!..yes,thats how it must be....I have had my own proof of how much we need to "ascend" to be granted the blessing..and maybe that IS why or at least one of the reasons why Linda decided to leave this dimension. But for now, soulmates are for learning and growing and much of it comes with pain..even if this pain is just earthly.. and Darwin,I read your story,and although she of course would be a soulmate, even if its the "like two ships passing in the night" type, then you should have gotten her birth info..I want DATA not details.. 
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#41442 - 09/08/01 02:50 AM
Re: Happily Ever After?
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Dreamer, Writer, Lover
Archangel
Registered: 05/31/00
Posts: 3571
Loc: Toronto, ON
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Aries - You have a Virgo moon?!?!?! Well suddenly, it ALL makes sense!  Proxy - Lovely story, I was reading and all the while I kept hoping she'd end up being some neighbour you never knew before. Alas, it is like "two ships passing in the night" - but what a great trip story. Much better than the usual! Everyone else - I've been with my partner for almost eight years. We are soulmates - we were together from the first look and our charts support that. But it's not all candy and roses, more like Guns & Roses (JOKE!!!!). The trouble with two people "knowing" each other so well is that there's no pretending. I might like to ignore certain bad traits of mine - but he sees right through me and keeps me honest - and keeps me growing! And vis-versa. We also each have enough Scorpio in our natals to have that ability to see right through any games or silliness the other might be pulling. We have the dreaded Mars square Pluto AND Mars conj. Pluto in our synastries. But we are learning how to use that energy to help each other transform and metamophisize into our best selves. It's not the romatic fantisy of my little Libra imagination, but it's the best relationship I could have ever found myself in, because I am constantly growing and being challanged. And so is he. It's amazing what good "bad" aspects can do!!!  Love, Terri
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 Love bears all things, Love believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.
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