#60608 - 02/25/99 10:18 PM
Karma and past lives
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Linda was big on karma and that for every action there is a reaction. Given her strong beliefs on this subject, were did she stand on the subject of past lives? Did she ever partake in a past life regression? (Since I haven't read "Gooberz" but will the first chance I get)Did she believe that any of the important people in her life were ones she spent past lives with? This is a topic that I have been extremely interested in recently and would like to learn more about Linda's thoughts and views on it if she shared them with any of you.
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#60609 - 02/27/99 04:15 PM
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Hiii Kstar!!! hmmm....i was so joyed to see ur topic on past lives and yes...i really beleive in it!!ive had a few experiances,ive been told some and ive read about some.and theyre awesome!wanna discuss?
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#60610 - 03/03/99 07:26 AM
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Hiiii Kstar!!! what happened to the 'past life'thread?yknow its an intensly interesting topic and im sure there must be thousands of things everyone would like to share!! I mean like,has anyone tuned in at times to memory flashes of past lives,had dreams about them,actually felt deja vu?im sure everyone at some point of time in their lives have gone thru any of the above mentioned.what about you kstar? Do answer...i think this could be a perfectly magical thread!! love shagun.
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#60611 - 03/03/99 10:44 AM
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Hello kstar and shagun! I, too, am intensely interested in past lives. I have a dear friend who is gifted in intuitively suggesting what past lives certain people have lived so he's shared some with me. As for personal experience, me KNOWING...I do know one. I actually met a friend over e-mail and we started talking and found we had much in common and were very interested in each other. We began to talk about spirituality and the subject of past lives came up. I began to tell him my one specific memory that I have - having to do with Ireland - and, can you believe this, HE FINISHED my memory. He interrupted (politely of course, albeit shocked, hims-elf...) and continued on with my memory, describing every detail, down to the color of my hair and dress I was wearing. He said everything that I already knew, word-for-word. It was quite fantastic. That was two years ago this month, actually, and since then we have met and he has become the most influential and profound person in my life thus far, right beside my mother and Anne (see "angel encounters anyone?"). He has become a teacher for me, of monumental sorts, and he lives in Colorado!! Actually, it was with him that I visited Cripple Creek and Linda's home last summer. Anyway, I'm off the topic. But he and I DEFINITELY know we have had a past relationship. It is one of the most exciting things that has ever happened to me. I am blessed to have him in my life. I often feel-know that I have had past lives with many of my closer friends. My mother, who is incredibly knowing-glowing and silvery-wise in her own right, made a good point. Isn't there a life when we have to meet a person for the very first time and BEGIN the karma with them? We seem to think that everything already happened previous to this life, but perhaps we do meet some for the first time in this life. Is this possible? Does this make sense? I, of course, love to try to unravel the threaded mysteries and puzzles that come with trying to figure out how you knew those you love in a past life, but my mother, being very sensical and grounded (unlike me at times)got me thinking. Any feedback would be welcome and appreciated. LMB
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#60612 - 03/03/99 11:23 AM
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Hi Shagun, I don't have any past lives experiences to date but I do quite frequently experience "dejavu" with my husband. I am convinced though that I did live a past life in Italy. I went to Florence and Venice back in the early 90's and when I arrived in Florence, a wonderful feeling came over me. I felt drawn to this old world place. At the time, I didn't think anything of it. But it just seemed like I had come home in a way. I didn't remember a life there or anything else that might place me there in a previous life, just that feeling inside that I can't really explain. Other than that, I haven't yet experienced anything. An interesting note - I never seem to be able to remember my dreams. The instant that I am awakened, I lose all memory of what my dreams were about. I don't know if this is because my higher S elf does not feel that I am ready to tread down that path? So many questions, so little answers! Note: I have seriously considered past life regression but have not done so to this date. Shagun, I would love to hear about your experiences. Peace, kstar [This message has been edited by kstar41523 (edited 03-03-99).]
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#60613 - 03/03/99 11:25 AM
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Great story, LMB! That must have been a very profound experience. As for having to meet someone for the first time to begin a karmic relationship, it does make one wonder. I tend to believe that our deeper relationships with people probably extend back before the beginning of time--before we became fallen and were caught in the karmic wheel, so to speak. So perhaps that first-time meeting between people was way back when. I'll bet your mom and Anne and your special male friend are all people you hung out with in heaven! I know you've been through some tough times, LMB, but I sense that you have a lot of karmic reward coming to you in this lifetime. Just my musings . . . KJS
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#60614 - 03/03/99 11:31 AM
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Hiii LMB That was a VERY interesting incident u related!!boy!for a moment i gorgot everything while i read. My god!isnt it fantastic and look how u met him!!gosh!i wonder how its like to actually meet someone like that?how did u feel lmb?was there recognition?could he be a peice of ur soul?i mean i get in this twin soul/self thing everywhere...but im sure u must be having that connection! Hmmm what ur mom suggested is really interesting.but the answer is right there in 'love signs',if u read it carefully.because it was while discussing 5-9 or 4-10 patterns of past karma that linda mentioned that in these patterns there could never be a 'first incarnational encounter'.i dont know if these were the exact words but something like that.so that means 'first times'do occur!logically too..i think its possible...ysee if a an angel has fallen and has realised his need to return very recently,then he wouldnt be knowing so many down here cos he hasnt incarnated so many times.well,just a thought.but be sure to check out lindas love signs. loved that experiance!beautiful! shagun.
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#60615 - 03/03/99 11:32 AM
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Hi LMB, Your post gave me goosebumps!!! What a wonderful experience and a great blessing. I myself believe that people with whom we have past lives with will show up through many lifetimes, sometimes as our teacher. This experience reminds me of Shirley Maclaine and her book "Out on a Limb" in which her friend David, whom she had been married to in a past life, became a guru of sorts to her in this life. I do think that you have a point about beginning karma in this life. I believe that we create karma for ourselves every waking moment if you look at it that karma is for every action there is a reaction. Since I do not know that much about the subject, maybe we can get some more thoughts on this one? Peace, kstar
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#60616 - 03/03/99 11:34 AM
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Kstar, I wonder if this forgetting dreams is a Capricorn thing, for I am the same way--most of the time. Kathleen says some really interesting things about dreams in the thread "quote of the day and nightmares." What she explains sounds valid to me. Maybe we don't remember our dreams because we have an easier time processing these images on a subconscious level. Fascinating to consider, isn't it? KJS
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#60617 - 03/03/99 11:41 AM
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Hi KJS, That is something to ponder! I have been pretty disturbed at times and frustrated as my husband will relate his dreams to me all the time. I will on occasion remember a small piece of a dream but usually I get nothing!! I am glad I am not the only one out there experiencing this problem. I will have to read Kathleen's post. An interesting note- I have asked my higher S elf for help in difficult times in my life by answering in my dreams. This is something to ponder - apparently my higher S elf does not believe I am ready for the answers? Any input is welcomed. Peace, Kstar
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#60618 - 03/03/99 11:43 AM
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Hiiiii Kstar!! i just realised u were in the thread!wow!i am going to mail u very soon!yipee! hmm kstar were really getting ur thread going arent we?i looove this topic!thanks! ok..a lil about karma.well,yes every moment we are creating karma...but it is obviously either good or bad.if its good then beautiful,if bad then there is one consolation.If after commiting the sin..you atone for it,accept u have done it and then forgive urself it dosent come back as such a big blow of a reaction.the main thing is u should forgive urself and be at peace.its called 'grace'or 'mercy'i think. also i feel u shouldnt be so aware that ure creating karma!!my god!u wouldnt be able to rest then!i think u should just remember to follow the heart.if it tells u to do something good ull do it anyway and reap benefits but if it told u to do bad then it means that block is still left within and no amount of force can make it go.so let it go,get angry,bang the lamp on the floor but face the truth of urself and only then will u be set free. god!theres so much to karma kstar!this is so small a part of it.i wish more people contribute. nice meeting u!! love shagun
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#60619 - 03/03/99 12:00 PM
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Shagun, It's wonderful to have your input. I agree with you - we should not live our lives with karma on the brain 24/7. And I think that Linda mentioned in her book Star Signs that we could erase bad karma if we catch it right afterwards with saying "cancel". I've got to run now but I will be back later with more thoughts! Peace, kstar
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#60620 - 03/03/99 12:09 PM
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Kstar, Maybe your answers come in a way you don't comprehend. I believe things that happen to us on the subconscious level can affect us with no conscious understanding of it on our part. For example, you could ask for answers about how to deal with a certain situation. Chances are you won't experience an epiphany or a light bulb turning on in your head. But soon you'll notice your attitude about the situation beginning to change for no obvious reason to you, or you'll suddenly encounter a helpful book, etc. That's our subconscious working, and we may not always realize it on the conscious level. But certainly, there are probably some answers we just aren't ready for. Best, KJS
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#60621 - 03/03/99 12:59 PM
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A few different answers to a few different people -- Kstar - Your reminding us of how Linda says to say "cancel" in "Linda Goodman's Star Signs" brought back a funny, powerful memory. May I share? - In high school, after "Gooberz", I read "Linda Goodman's Star Signs". During the reading of the latter, I could NOT put it down...I read it during my classes, at lunch, before and after school. I was younger then, too, and so enraptured by Linda Goodman that I gathered all her teachings up like daffodils (without yet really understanding all of them) and ran around the halls of my school (mainly the drama department where I could mostly be found) spouting, "OH GO SMELL A ROSE!" and saying "Cancel!" after each and every negative thing that I or anyone else said. The margins of my school books were covered with lexigrams and numerology and quotes I had copied down from "Gooberz". I got some pretty strange looks and people kept saying, "what has posessed Lisa??". I found it so envigorating. I recall it as a very swift, swirly time for me. I don't know, your saying "cancel" just reminded me of that and brought a smile to my face.  KJS- Could you remind me of the karmic wheel? And thank you for your musings. What you said warmed my spirit. *^*^*^*^ Shagun- Bless your heart! I feel such energy from your postings all the time. Your honesty and direct manner of speaking is so beautiful, I hope you know what an asset (spelling?) you are here. Anyway, yes, my relationship with this man gives me goose bumps too! I certainly feel that he is someone "big" in my life. Sometimes I am apt even to go so far as to say a "gooober"...but can people have more than one "gooober" in one lifetime? (a question to anyone). Because...as wonderful and cosmic as our relationship is...there is a situation that is tied around it like a bright red ribbon...which at the same time imprisons it from never happening. What I mean is that a permanent, love relationship on a partner-level can never manifest with him because of the situation that surrounds it. I wouldn't change it because that would change US...and I do love US...(*"the secret of how to make an US out of a lonely YOU and ME"*)...but it does hurt knowing that he is not really THE ONE. He might be a STRONG STRONG twin soul...but I don't see how he can be my twin s-elf. What Linda Goodman wrote in "Gooberz" about her last love (presumably Robert Brewer, but I don't mean to make any speculations) being a sort of reincarnate of her first deep love (possibly Bill Snyder...) really hit home...because I relate it to this man I care so deeply about. EVERYTHING about him just harmonizes with me. He has saved my life numerous times (literally and figuratively), he teaches me, I teach him...it is such an "equinox", if you will...a balance of wonderful energy. Yet...it can not be. This is obviously not supposed to be...I am meant to find someone else....but this man surely can not be forgotten, nor will he ever be. Well, my friend, I fear I am rambling now so I will close this up. And thank you - when I go home next week, I will definitely look up those passages in "Love Signs"!!! On a side note - has anyone ever noticed how prevelant "SINGS" is in the word "SIGNS"? I'm sure you have, but I just wanted to point it out once more. I like that.  A bushel of bunny hugs, LMB
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#60622 - 03/03/99 01:10 PM
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Kathleen, Thank you for the book recommendation, I will surely look into that as soon as I possibly can! You said it - so many books, so little time. Both writing AND reading! And when you said "mourn for misty mountains far away", I felt an ache in my heart. I hear ya, sister! Your story about the Atlantean past life regression was absolutely FASCINATING, not unlike everything you tell us! I've often thought about past life regression...but I have a problem. I tend to try too hard. You see, I'm a control freak and even meditating is very hard. Only twice in my life have I really felt that I've achieved some sort of altered, or truly relaxed state. I seem to want things so badly that I try too hard. During meditation, for example, I will be sitting there, trying to breathe right, trying to clear my mind right, trying to relax right...but you see, I am TRY-TRY-TRYING too hard!!! So with regression and any sort of hynosis, I am so afraid that I would be too tense and try to "script" it out too much...being a writer and an intense dreamer, I tend to "script" out many things. Even relationships! Which has gotten me into plenty of trouble. ANYWAY (...LMB famously off-track again...), do you have any suggestions on how to relax and not try so hard? I think it stems from my intense need to feel "special". I also think that any specific details i'd be able to come up with would not come out of a past life memory, but from some sort of script. This frustrates me to a great degree. In fact, when this man I talked about was finishing my past life memories, I didn't believe it. In fact, he had to convince me of MANY miracles that manifested between us. I was quite skeptical about many things because I just didn't believe in mys-elf, sadly enough. I thought it was all a script I had manipulated. (shame on me!) But oh yes...he opened my eyes to such wonderful things and gave me the ability to believe in mys-elf once more. Anyhoo, talk to you all later, LMB
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#60623 - 03/03/99 11:21 PM
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Kathleen, Yes, yes and yes. You are right right right. Thank you thank you thank you, I just needed to hear it.  (Was it Linda who said that repeating something made it more powerful?) With love, LMB
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#60624 - 03/04/99 07:19 AM
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Hi everyone! I am so loving this thread!! One of my favorite fascinations. LMB - what a silly story about "cancel"!! I have a question that has puzzled me quite a bit. I have often wondered why some people live well into their 80's and 90's and there are others that do not make it past their teens and early adulthood? I am sure that it has to do with the lessons learned in that incarnation, but are those that live such a long life slow learners? Do those whose lives are cut short, quick learners? So many questions!!!  I would love any input. Peace, kstar
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#60625 - 03/04/99 09:43 AM
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Hi, I just have a quick question to add to this discussion. Q: How much karmic information (if any) can be deduced from one's birthchart??? love, Blue.
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#60626 - 03/05/99 03:38 AM
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Hiii All!! So hows it going?has anyone received any memory flashes yet?well,were all waiting to hear about it!! Yknow LMB and Kathleen u brought a huge smile to my face bcos u mentioned Ireland in both ur postings!!Oh my!Its true that if ure attracted to a certain place or culture u had a past life there!!i have always been attracted to Ireland,its moors,the castles,the weather,way of dressing.It was this rainy ireland kind of a weather here where i live one day.and i was listening to this song that had been newly released.it had the violin,mouth organ kind of chords and suddenly i started to cry...because i remembered!!!i remembered the chords,the very same music and i knew i had heard it in Ireland somewhere.just a minute after the shock of this revelation...i saw a clear flash of memory go by in my mind.it was so quick!!and i saw myself...with another(it was my other half...i seemed to know this)whom i couldnt see.I was different in the sense,i had golden hair and an irish blue dress on whereas now i have brown hair.but...the face was the same.He was helping me get down some rocks and the day was sunny as the sun shined behind me.there was so much ...love...in the picture!!!and it made me cry harder bcos i have never felt such pure,strong love in this life ver.and to this day...the song sends shivers up my spine.brrrr..... I guess that means a world of pure true love exists and we have loved this way,there is someone who will love us like that someday. Best of luck,lot of strenght and hope to all my friends till that day arrives...for all of us.... love shagun.
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#60627 - 03/04/99 05:17 PM
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Shagun, as Kathleen said, you made me cry. I understand those yearnings and aches for a far away home from a distant life and time. I have had many moments and memories such as those because of music. For me, at least, as I'm sure for many others, music affects me SO much. I say, "I am at the mercy of melody". Irish music, in particular. For instance, "ironically", right now, at this very moment, I am listening to my favorite Irish music singer - Loreena McKennitt - who started all my past life memories to begin with (but that's a different story). I am listening to music that takes me back to that faraway, glistening green place with the cottony-mist covering the mountaintops...*sigh*...it's amazing what strings memories such as those can pull. I wish you days of walking along the Cliffs of Moher and holding your "gooober"'s hand... It will happen, my friend. Expect a Miracle, remember? LMB [This message has been edited by LMB (edited 03-04-99).]
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#60628 - 03/04/99 11:58 PM
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KATHLEEN!!!! THE OLD WAYS IS MY SONG!!! OH my god, I am just floored right now....remember when I wrote that it was a long story how Loreena was my "past life" musician? Well...it is because of THAT song!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *((my hands are shaking so much right now!!!**))) When I heard that song, my past life came back to me...and that is the song that I was listening to when the man I love (whom I've talked about before) finished the past life. We've even listened to that song together....and oh it was so intense. In our past life, you see, he had to go off and fight in the battle of Camlin (sp?)...and at that song...he is leaving....oh there's so much more....but wow....okay...i'll breathe now. much much love to you, LMB
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#60629 - 03/05/99 10:30 AM
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Kathleen, Yes, lots of Camelot feelings. That CD was originally given to me in 1994 by my mother BECAUSE it had "The Lady of Shalott" on it. Merely for that song. Little did she know how monumental all of Loreena McK's music would affect me. Last May for my birthday, I saw her in concert, too! She played "The Old Ways" last as well and I cried through it, too! I would be INCREDIBLY interested in knowing the mathematical/music of the song. LMB
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#60630 - 03/06/99 01:40 PM
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Hiii lmb and kathleen!! well,i must say im touched and very very happy that u liked what i posted earlier. That memory has been my most precious one as yet and if it touched u guys then im honoured!!Everytime i feel down or depressed in any way,i think of this and it makes me feel better and since u guys liked it too ,im sure it will shine in my mind in a brighter tone!thank u so much! Wow!Loreenas music seems...lovely!i mean i have never heard it but the way u guys describe it...i think ill dash out to the shop today and get it right now!! And yes..some questions...did the gypsy tribes have anything to do with Ireland in any way? and has anyone had a memory yet,of a land of fairies?i mean it isnt imagination.i once remembered a land of very delicate,very tiny fairies(maybe pixies and nature spirits like linda says).Oh their land was so beautiful.There were so MANY flowers,plants,trees.Lovely velvet night,tinkling crystal stream..so pure..rocks,little nature lights(i dont exactly remember how they were lighted) and so much of hustle and bustle and..magic!yes...its true...!i dont know how i could remember this?!!anyone have a clue to such a land existing? Waiting for more sharing and different worlds.. shagun. [This message has been edited by shagunj (edited 03-06-99).]
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#60631 - 03/06/99 04:03 PM
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Shagun, Oh, sounds like Ireland to me. Or someplace quite like it.  Perhaps what you remember is not from this world as we see it right now. Perhaps it is. I wish you luck in finding it, even if it is within. LMB
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#60632 - 03/06/99 11:04 PM
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Oh, Kathleen, what an enchanted being you are. You've spoken of so many beautiful experiences in these threads of wisdom! I'm so delighted to have become a part of this. I have always, always been fascinated with faires. In my imagination i have created such glorious places where I think they might dwell. I'm very interested to hear more of your experience visiting the land of faeries, and your theories about their existence. What did it look like? What did you feel? Also, since this thread is about past lives. I wanted to bring up something that a past life reader told me. I spoke a little about her interpretations of my past lives in the Relationship signs thread. She sees people's souls as a room, filled with volumes of books. She remarked when she saw that I had not only a huge room filled with books, but also some very old scrolls, meaning that I had a very old soul. She then told me not to be prideful about that, because that just meant that my soul was a slow learner. I laughed. But, I'm interested to know if other people have heard that theorie. What has Linda said about old souls? I know these are pretty generalized questions, but bear with the student, and enlighten me to some your ideas about reincarnation. Love, Isis
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