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#60717 - 03/06/99 02:30 PM Jesus...the man,the christ.
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Hiii Friends!!

Yknow ever since linda wrote about Jesus,i have been fascinated by him.Everything about the man he was,the christ is all so...magical!

I remember as a child i used to feel a strange longing for the church.Now i am from a different religion and that used to confuse me so!I would just kneel beside his statue and look up and ..talk..to him.Not pray..but talk...and i felt..oh so peaceful and full of love after that!

I would so love to hear or discuss any information or knowledge about my favourite star...Jesus!!

Anyone willing to join in?

A starry eyed fan
shagun

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#60718 - 03/06/99 09:06 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: shagunj]
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Amen, Kathleen!
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#60719 - 03/09/99 03:27 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: KJS]
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I have to disagree with you. I never liked the fact that linda used all this dark knowledge and yet had this sanctimonious attitude. All magic, numerology,astrology etc... is the realm of the dark! She, like so many other Wiccans and "white occultist" are playing the devil's game but refusing to take his name!

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#60720 - 03/09/99 03:49 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ.
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Dear Tino & Veronica,

I respectfully disagree with your opinon that numerology, astrology, etc., are dark or evil. Rather, they are neutral systems that help us gain deeper understanding of ourselves, others, the cosmos. Whether these systems are used for good or evil depends entirely upon the user. I sincerely believe that Linda Goodman advocated the use of such systems in order to bring more light to our struggling planet. I've never had any sense of her being anything other than pure of heart, and I feel she used astrology and numerology in that spirit.

As a side note, you've been very interested in The Lion Path. Do you realize it is entirely based upon astrology?

Kind regards,
KJS

[This message has been edited by KJS (edited 03-08-99).]

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#60721 - 03/08/99 05:33 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: KJS]
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Laurentino and Veronica, I'm curious where you got the idea that these arts are "dark." And, along with KJS, I'm curious why you yourselves seem very interested in them if you truly think they are.

As for Linda's "sanctimonious" attitude, it's hard to see how anyone could call appreciating Jesus' teachings of wisdom and love sanctimonious. That word is usually associated with people who profess a "holier than thou" attitude ... which might describe some people who condemn the ideas of others as dark or evil, but certainly not someone who sees the good in all.

I'm truly interested in your viewpoint -- however, I do respectfully request that if this is meant to be the start of a religious debate, this is not the proper forum for that.

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#60722 - 03/08/99 07:50 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Gregory]
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First of all, Gregory and to all, the topic "Jesus" is most definately an issue of a religious idea and is apperently something to have a debate on if brought upon on this site. I find it dishearting that since Shagunj opened his "gates" then why can't we open ours. I agree that this is really not a forum to discuss religious differences, but it should be noted that if one form of idea is expressed then all forms of ideas should also be. If i'm not mistaken I do beleive that christains condemn all forms of non-christain ideas and teachings, i.e. numerology, astrology and all forms of magic. We highly respect Linda's teachings but we do beleive that to have wonderment and success in all of her teachings, we DO NOT HAVETO EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST to reach our goals. We are proud SATANIST and our lineage runs a millennia before the christain bible. IF you want to know more about this philosophy please visit: www. coscentral.net/main.html. or even better, The Satanic Bible by Anton Szandor LaVey.
Hail Satan!

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#60723 - 03/08/99 09:02 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ.
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Further more Linda Goodman would most diffinately have been burned at the stake and labeled a heretic and a witch. Now please understand that we are on a quest to be immortal and therefore Gods. Something that the bible would condemn. We are Gods. All of us.
The bible has a deathist mentility and Jesus preached that the ONLY WAY is through him. That the only way to their God is through death. They believe that immortality is only in a spiritual sense, which we also believe, but we all know that physical immortality is achievable.

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#60724 - 03/08/99 11:05 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ.
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Tino & Veronica, please understand this: spirituality is an acceptable topic for discussion in these forums, religion is not. Regardless of your religious beliefs, you are welcome to join with us in exploring Linda Goodman's life and ideas, her writings, and her vision for the coming age. You are not welcome to proselytize for any religion, whether Christianity, Wicca ... or Satanism. That's all "us" and "them" talk that divides people rather than bringing them together, and that's exactly what Linda was trying to point the way beyond. We respect your right to your own religious beliefs, whatever they may be. We ask for the same respect in return, for the purpose and direction of these forums.
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#60725 - 03/09/99 07:22 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Gregory]
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This is our last remark on this topic. if you want we can e-mail each other to continue. To Kathleen ... our founder, Anton laVey, used "Satan" as a metephor for a symbol to recognize the great force of nature. Lets leave it at that ...
With lots of "bushels of bunnie hugs". We all love. Have a laugh folks. it will help.

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#60726 - 03/09/99 08:37 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ.
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Tino and Veronica, I edited your last message simply to remove the anger and insults. That is what we wish to avoid on this forum, not healthy differences of opinion offered in a spirit of love and helpful communication. And it is light and love that are our chosen focus here.

I understand the points you are making, and I agree with some of them. I would welcome a dialog with you in private correspondence, as perhaps some others would. But my experience is that "debates" about religion always end up with people being angry and insulting one another, as was starting to happen here, and we simply don't want that vibe on this forum. This is not a free-for-all soapbox, it is a forum to discuss the life, works and ideas of Linda Goodman. Thanks for understanding.

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#60727 - 03/09/99 11:44 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Gregory]
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Gregory we did not know that we were not supposed to answer to the "attacks" that were directed to us. We were simply stating another opinion on Jesus. If we posted a topic on the "devil" I'm sure that it would have been had the same effect upon the readers as the topic "Jesus" had on us.

Please answer this legitamate question as you edited it out in our last reply:
Do you beleive that Jesus is a spiritual topic.


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#60728 - 03/10/99 12:30 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ.
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Tino & Veronica,

I'm afraid I don't understand how you can find so much to challenge because Jesus has been brought up on the LINDA GOODMAN web site. Linda was an avowed fan of his, which is made quite clear in her writings. However, she did not buy into the Christian dogma that Jesus was any more divine than the rest of us. In fact, she referred to him as an exalted human, a state which any of us could attain if only we would sincerely try.

Further, and as Linda herself stated, the Christian Bible has been very distorted over the centuries. It has been mistranslated, misinterpreted, misquoted, etc., so to use that document as the last word on what Jesus taught is quite erroneous. And by the way, most references to astrology that originally existed in the Bible were expunged. I would advise you to consult some alternative opinions on Jesus and his teachings. In my view, Jesus himself was not Christian in the commonly defined way and would not advocate any of the atrocities committed in his name.

Indeed, Jesus is a spiritual figure and one that Linda herself referred to, so it seems quite appropriate that he should become a topic of discussion on her site.

KJS

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#60729 - 03/10/99 09:03 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: KJS]
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Thank you KJS, for answering that question brilliantly.

Tino and Veronica, I am impatient that you are not willing to let this go and move on. As you might imagine, I have been asked by many to prohibit you from posting here, but I have not done that because censorship is anathema to my soul ... as it was to Linda's. However, this forum does have a purpose and a focus, and I have asked you courteously several times to please respect that focus. This is the last time I will ask.

I completely agree with you that great atrocities have been and are still being committed in the name of organized religion -- and not just the Christian religion, by any means. Arguing about religion has caused great human misery throughout the course of human history. That is why we do not want arguments about religion here. If you want to extol the spiritual virtues of a teacher or leader you admire, regardless of his or her religion, you are more than welcome to do so. If you want to put down the spiritual teachers of others, or insult them for their beliefs, you are not welcome to do so here. This forum is not for argument, it is for appreciation of Linda's works and ideas, and for mutually supportive discussion of these ideas among fellow admirers. Please choose either to respect that or to move on to a forum that is more to your taste.

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#60730 - 03/10/99 12:15 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Gregory]
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Hi Friends!

whats going on in here?!!!!!!Im truly shocked!!

I came here seeing 14 posts thinking that wow...today im going to know so much more about someone i love and respect so much....and i see this!!amazing!

Im very hurt,very shocked!

Hey Tino and Veronica,im not discussing this man on the basis of ANY religion whatsoever!!Imyself am a hindu in religion,so why would i cause a religious dispute?!

I just LOVE this man,this person,this human that he was!which is why i started this thread!i simply d NOT see him as a powerful god,but as my friend and someone who loved so much!!
This site ,my friends is ALL about LOVE and friendship and i agree with greg,kjs,kate and everyone else that this is NOT a religious forum!
Have u loved ur husband,ur sister,ur friend,ur son,etc?well,this thread and this site is all about that and astrology,numeology etc are just a few paths and ways to get to it!!But ultimately ,we all go there,thru any route,be it satanism,hinduism or christianity.and the goal is LOVE!!!!

Im sure hope u realise this and give it a good thought!and please....dont say such upsetting things,it hurts us ALL here!!we dont want to hurt u beleive me and we would like that u dont too.

Well,friends,im a lil shocked that one of my favourite topics and its thread has started off on the wrong foot...I only hope that it inspires only love in the future.

well,im off to meditate a little...be back in a while!!!
love
shagun.

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#60731 - 03/10/99 01:23 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: shagunj]
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I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has an opinion on what Jesus' spiritual connection was to his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. I don't have my trusty LG resources with me right now, but I recall that Linda believed the two Marys were pieces of the same soul. Thus, both women were his Twin Selves or Twin Souls or Soul Mates. I think Linda said the same about Arthur and Lancelot in relation to Gwynnevere (please forgive the mangled spelling). I'd surely love for Kathleen to shed some more light on Mary Magdalene for us. Do any of you believe, as my Mormon friends do, that Jesus was married to her?

KJS

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#60732 - 03/10/99 02:14 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: KJS]
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I would just like to ask some question, which those of you who have infinate more knowledge on the subject matter may be able to answer.
I have been lead to believe that the Jesus story was in reality far more political than the Christian Church has ever yeilded, ..something to do with Jesus having a direct claim to the throne in Israel through his direct lineage to David ?? And I have been also told that crucifixion was punishment only given for political offences, depicting Jesus as some kind of original revolutionary and Simon was a zealot as I recall. The glorification of Jesus was something orchastrated after his death by the romans who used it as a tool to exercise anti-semitism, and later institutionalise it in the Catholic Church which has consistently tried to strip Mary and the apostles of their Jewish heritage, something which is harded to do with Jesus because of his relation to the prophicies of Isiah ??
Also what happened to the Essenes, is it true that they relocated in India ???
Please can someone enlighten me on these issues, I have been aquainted with the Jesus story since I was a little girl and I do sense that this dear, sweet wonderful man has been misrepresented and abused for far too long!
Light and Love and Happiness shall prevail forever !!!!!
P.s. to Shagun this may not be the right place to ask but I have had my chart done by a Hindu Astrologer, which had to be translated from Sanskrit and I wondering if you know what the differences are between Hindu and western Astr. and why they exist.
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#60733 - 03/11/99 03:14 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Blue]
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Hiii Blue and KJS!!!

boy...am i glad u guys came along!!i was dying to discuss this topic!!

hmmm...i think ill try to answer a fw questions here,but if im wrong..i want the moderaters or one of my member friends to please check me.here goes...

I feel that Mary Magdalene was the original'snowflake half'of jesus,his twin s-elf.And Mary mother one of the 14 peices of either jesus's own soul or Mary Magdalenes soul(read gooberz for split peices).Guinevere and Lancelot could also have been twin halves and arthur a twin soul!Which is why guinevere ,probably felt more drawn to lancelot than to arthur,although arthur too was a major attraction...so the dillemmma.It is said that arthur or Lancelot were soul peices of Jesus(in another incarnation of course)and Guinevere was Mary(this time no split peices).but yknow what...it could be the other way round...what if lancelot and arthur were split peices of Mary's soul incarnated as the male gender,while jesus's soul incarnated as guinevere?someone will have to figure that out.

It is said that during jesus's lost 15 years he was tempted by everything...and this was the period where he did marry Mary Magdalene.Gooberz does mention this KJS.read it carefully.

Blue...i dont know about the political aspect of jesus but yes,it is said that during his 15 lost years,he did learn from the essenes and then preached in India too,on the banks of the Ganga,the holy river.I dont know whether the essenes were located in India though.

Hey Kathleen,please do check me and fill us up on the gaps and mistakes!I feel funny writing so much,piscean inside me is trembling really.but oh i just love to share everything here!!

And yes blue...the sanskrit chart.Well,i have one in sanskrit too and im simply dying to convert it to english!haha!funny arent i?but yknow its very tough to translate in english unless u dont have certain books.But i can help u a little with that.Im joining an astrology school now and as soon as i learn enough,ill be happy to translate the chart for u.
Oh yes...here are some transalations of the planets:
'shani'-saturn
'rahu'-north node
'ketu'-south node
'surya'-sun
etc.
Also,i must tell u blue,that Hindu astrology uses the signs of the zodiac very differently,as well as the times.see,i was born 26th might at 2:45 a.m so acc to english charts i am a 27th feb born...but in hindi...u are a 26th feb born and a...leo!!!i really wonder how that is...but i do prefer to stick to the english one,it feels more accurate.

A question guys...hmmm...how was jesus to look like physically?i mean in some books i read he had a brown beard and long brown hair but yet others say that he had lovely blond hair and beard?Does anyone know?

love
shagun

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#60734 - 03/11/99 12:20 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: shagunj]
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As far as the reincarnation aspect of it all, I would have to assume that Arthur was Jesus and Guinevere and Lancelot were split from Mary M. I am basing it on this - Jesus was pure of heart, had no sin, did harm to no one, and quested to help all good men - regardless of their status - Arthur was quite the same. Mary M was a sinner, we are all familiar with her profession - she was a good woman, I'm not knocking her, I've sinned plenty myself, yet she was a sinner. Lancelot and Guinevere were sinners, too. Adulterers and guilty of Treason against the King and court of Camelot.

But, that's just my take on it..

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#60735 - 03/11/99 01:02 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: SusanM1998]
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Kathleen,

Very interesting, and I stand corrected. You must forgive some of my ignorance on the subject of the bible and the history of those times - I went to Catholic elementary and Catholic High School oh so many years ago, so I only got the benefit of the sisters' angle on things and, taking their word as Gospel (no pun intended) I never persued it any further. Mary's "profession" being a prime example of the apparent misinformation that was drilled into my head for all those years.
Please keep sending out all this good info..I will absorb it eventually..

I am sooo happy this website is here - where else can exchanges of such great information on such varied topics take place? All thanks to one woman (and, of course, you wonderful Moderators and Administrators

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#60736 - 03/11/99 11:35 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: SusanM1998]
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Hi everyone,

Here's a link i found which is VERY relevant to the subject on hand esp. with respect to the Church's "interpretation" of Christianity. I would encourage everyone to have a quick look;

http://home.earthlink.net/~fromthestars/page48.html

Shagunj: I see you're from South India, you do know ,don't you, that Thomas the Apostle went to South India to spread the Christ's teachings, more specifically to Kerala. If you're in Hydrabad, you're not that far from some prime investigating ground.

If anyone is interested in pursuing info. about Jesus' stay in India, an excellent book to look up is "Jesus Lived in India" by Holger Kirsten, a German theologian. This book is a must read for all followers of the Abrahamic tradition and for anyone who is truly interested inthe life of the Christ.

As for the Essenes re-locating to the Himalayan mountain range, my belief is that the Essenes, Chaldeans, Cathars, Bogomils, the Gnostics etc. are all off-shoots of teachings from the White Brotherhood (vs. The Black Lodge) Legend has it that the White Brotherhood 's "motherhouse" is indeed hidden somewhere in one of the thousands of hidden valleys of the Himalayans which strech from India, Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, and the Hindu Kush region of Pakistan. The actual site changes in each era, my feeling is that right now it's in Nepal.

Peace Everyone,
Aurora

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#60737 - 03/11/99 02:07 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Aurora]
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Kathleen, in your opinion did Jesus survive the ressurection or did he actually ressurect? Also, did Mary M settle in France and if so was Jesus with her??
I find it quite disturbing the way the Catholic Church simply decided to re-write history.
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#60738 - 03/12/99 04:08 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Blue]
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Hiii Everyone!!

This thread is getting really interesting!so many things i never knew and here they are!Thanks everyone for the contribution!

Thank u so much Kathleen for raising my confidence.Youre really kind and yes,after reading ur postings i think noone could have any doubts that we have a LOT to learn from you!!and thank god ure here!!

Hmmm Aurora...yes i am from south India...actually born in the North but settled here for a while.yes,i did see the book about jesus in india but i havent been able to read it yet but thanks a LOT for the info!im so excited!!They do say that jesus resurrected and then moved eastwards finally settling in Nepal..WITH Mary Magdalene and yes...they did have children!amazing isnt it?I wonder how far it is true?Ill see that i find something out about that.

and oh yes...can someone tell me the physical description of jesus?!

love
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#60739 - 03/15/99 01:21 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: shagunj]
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.......Just like Linda, it must be an Aries thing.

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#60740 - 05/06/99 03:37 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Blue]
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Hmmm...interesting peices of information we have here.

Linda when she was talking to heathcliffe in gooberz was informed that Jesus had already reincarnated on earth but his identity is hidden.Anyone have ANY information on this?it would be appreciated.

I was recently listening to the news and it did mention that on this particular day,the same stars that were seen on the day christ was born were seen again on earth,after that time.any info,thoughts?

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#60741 - 05/05/99 10:45 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Feeling]
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Thanks so much for the older thread on Jesus.....some interesting reading.....

Feeling.....in a book called THE ULTIMATE FRONTIER, I read that Jesus has reincarnated and today is living in France...it didn't say what his name was today.....

Also...it differentiates between Jesus and the Christ...(Edgar Cayce did this too.) Jesus was a man highly spiritually evolved, but The Christ WAS divine, and took over Jesus' body when John baptized him and the dove flew on his shoulder.....according to the book Christ and Melchilzedek were one and the same, and would have an elevated status of archangel.....Jesus'spirit returned to the astral and it was Christ who preached.....and Christ who was crucified......Jesus and his parents were Essenes and knew that Jesus was born for the particular purpose of allowing Christ to use his body......

This is some information that is probably new and different, to you knowflakes and it blew me away too...as I told Shagun, I explore lots of information that is presented to me - with an open mind...then I try to put it together....and there's lots out there...

The different pieces of the soul that Linda talked about, was new and different to me, also....

Love and Peace,
Rainbow~

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#60742 - 05/06/99 03:36 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Rainbow]
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Thank you rainbow,for that peice of information.i do wonder if it is indeed true that jesus has incarnated on earth already.what do our feeelings say,our intuitions?i feel he has.

As for Melchzedek and jesus being one...maybe.its possible.but their physical structures do vary quite a lot and they are often spoken of separately.i wonder.

Christ was crucified?is that right?can anyone tell me why is it that he was supposed to have died for the sin of others and he being called the sacrificial lamb?how could that be?

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#60743 - 05/06/99 04:00 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Feeling]
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Hi Feeling...............it is Christ and Melchizedek who were the same........NOT Jesus.......Jesus and Christ/Melchizedek were two different entities (according to the book) Jesus was a man, Christ was more highly elevated - an archangel;divine......

Jesus left his body so that Christ could enter it at the time of the baptism, and we suddenly had an archangel in our midst......and from what I understand, he came to lift the heavy karmic debt, we had on our heads....actually he didn't take it away...he removed it temporarily so that mankind could start fresh and new without too much karma coming at him...and that is how he came to 'save' us. I also understand that after his appearance here on earth, we had some peace on earth for a time......the karma will eventually have to be met, but piecemeal so that we don't regress spiritually...as time goes on, we'll have more and more karma to deal with.....*sigh*

I'm only telling you what's in the book (which I find EXTREMELY interesting),and it gives some food for thought.....

LOve and Peace,
Rainbow~

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#60744 - 05/07/99 05:42 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Rainbow]
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Thank you so much rainbow.Iam getting clearer on the topic.
*twinkle*

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#163615 - 11/28/10 02:50 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Rainbow]
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My view on this topic.
Is Jesus having a new incarnation on Earth right now.
No, I don't think so.
Jesus was chosen out of many souls to out picture the ascension.
His incarnation in Israel was (if successful) his last incarnation in the flesh.
There was a possibility for failure.
He did have a great attainment and very successful former lives to have a strong foundation to move in the direction he was supposed to move.
Like everyone else he had free will, there was always the option for him to live an ordinary life.
After is ascension he became an Ascended Master.
The Ascended Master level is the first level after we graduate from Earth.
Right now Jesus is on a higher level then 2000 years ago, and this continues for him. (and for us all)
His consciousness level is to high to be contained in a body of flesh.
About his physical appearance.
He was quite tall, this was probably because of his Atlantean incarnation as Priest-King Thoth.
Also his facial features where much like Thoth.
Some of the paintings from Simon Dewey are close.
Like the painting "The Lord is My Shepherd" and his painting "Light and Truth"
A feature he had not visible on the paintings was blue eyes.
His blue eyes was a Nazarene local thing, 1 out of ??? Nazarene people have blue eyes.
Even today you will find (a view) Nazarene people with blue eyes.
Things were very much orchestrated before his (jesus) arival on Earth.
Think of People important to his mission and the Qumran community.
The Qumran community (Essenes) where important for his early education.
He also went to England several times with his uncle Joseph of Arimathea.
Joseph of Arimathea had several tin mines in England.
He probably learned about the Druides and their view of live.
He learned much more later on when he left his home to travel to India, Himalayas etc.
On his travels he met several great teachers/guru's.
From them he learned many disciplines and practices to help him later on in his mission.
Some people think that he was able to cure every ilness.
But he was not allowed to do so when Karmic reasons were involved.
But in that case he lessen the pain.
Also there was (besides the disciples) a large group of people (+/-80) helping him.
In this group (woman and male) where healers, carpenters, cook, people to prepare/organize things etc.
In Israel to give any importance to woman was rather unique in that time (even in this time more or less I think)
Mary Magdalene was his twin-soul and had the greatest understanding of his teachings.
Sadly because it was very much a male oriented society she did not get much recognition, and even worse they made a whore out of her later on.
Jesus did not have a sexual relation with Mary Magdalene.
But his relation with her was very close and on several occasions he kissed her on the lips.
Mary was one of the very view to understand the deepest insights Jesus had, and he loved to talk with her because of that.
Enough for now smile

Namaste, Love and Blessings to all

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#163644 - 01/01/11 12:35 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Oneness4all]
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Welcome Oneness4all rainbowface
Intriguing post and I look forward to many more from you.

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#165569 - 11/15/11 05:51 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Oneness4all]
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Oneness4all's post is pretty similar to what Sylvia Brown says in "The Mystical Life of Jesus." According to Sylvia, Jesus was not of a Virgin birth (his Dad was Joseph), and he survived the Crucifixion and lived into his 80's or 90's (I forget). He and Mary were married and had 4 children - 2 girls & 2 boys. He was divine in that he was Gods direct message (messenger). She also said that he had disciples travel with him to write down what he said and that these writings would be found. I'm not done with the book yet, but when I finish I'll share anything else I feel is worth sharing. grin
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#165613 - 11/18/11 05:17 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Veneo]
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I t was nice to see this bumped. I wonder where Oneness4all went off too. It would be interesting to hear more from him.nod
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#165615 - 11/18/11 08:22 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: juniperb]
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juniperb's Quote:

I wonder where Oneness4all went off too. It would be interesting to hear more from him.




Wonder no more juniperb, for here is a piece taken for his website Oneness4all below.

I ALL-so RESONATE with his words and teachings (From With-IN) nod

I LOVE heart his website love




Living Truth


Living Truth is Truth coming from within.

You have the ability to access higher parts of your being.
Also you have access to an Inner Savior that Jesus called “the Comforter”
These higher parts of your being and also your Comforter communicates with you through feelings.
For example, you read a book or a teaching and you feel uplifted, joyful or you get a déjà vu feeling.
You get a feeling of recognizing, knowingness.
This is how your Soul communicates with you.
When you pay attention to your inner feelings and trust it more and more then your discernment will grow.
Your real you is a Spiritual Being and you are having a human experience on Earth.

You will have more experiences on Earth till you have learned all the necessary lessons. (reincarnation)

When you are finished with your lessons here on Earth then other adventures awaits you in the Heavenly World.
This progress from the physical Earth into the Heavenly World is also called Ascension (or as Christians call it being saved)

This site is about Oneness, finding your way home, to inspire you.

On my site you will find all kinds of teachings, maybe not everything you find here will resonate with you.
But that’s OK, pick the one’s that resonate with you and drop the rest.
This is how you approach every teaching coming from a book or a website.

Another thing to realize is that you may find teachings or sites that seems to contradict with each other.
You have 2 teachings or websites that resonate with your higher being but your linear mind may find differences.
Realize that true teachings come from a place without duality and need to be translated into words that our linear mind can understand.

Different teachers/guru’s or websites may use a different wording to express the same concepts.
Also as an individual you have your own Soul make-up and therefore different needs.
Always choose the teachings that resonate with you the most !
Because this teaching is most likely the teaching that your Higher Self wants to explore.
When you follow this path, then you will internalize these teachings.

You are becoming this Truth, and when you get more understanding then your appetite for more Truth will grow.
What is the difference between organized religion and this Living Truth?
With organized religion the Bible is the infallible word of God and it should be interpreted literally.
With the Living Truth you only accept a teaching/message when it resonates within you.

Jesus said: “The Kingdom of God is within you”
Sadly most people think that by doing external things like going to church on Sunday, singing worship songs and doing rituals is enough to get the Keys to the Kingdom.
But this is a false claim.

To get the Keys to the Kingdom you have to evolve yourself.
You are responsible for your own salvation.

Jesus will be your savior, but he is not doing all your work.
He will inspire you to take the right steps.
But it is your free will decision to follow up.
Taking the right decisions will bring you higher on the Staircase to Heaven.

Doing nothing or making the wrong decisions will delay your Spiritual progress and put you on a downward spiral into more physicality and farther away
from Oneness with God.

I include here a famous quote from Guatama Buddha.

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Guatama Buddha

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.

Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.

Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.

Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.

Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.

But after observation and analysis,
when you find that anything agrees with reason and is
conducive to the good and benefit of one and all,
then accept it and live up to it.”



Egbert

http://www.oneness4all.com/








Edited by SolaneStar (11/18/11 08:25 PM)
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#165621 - 11/19/11 08:27 AM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: SolaneStar]
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Wonderful find Star, thank you!! flower
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#165622 - 11/19/11 01:14 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: juniperb]
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Good stuff, except I resonate from with-IN with what Sylvia has said about Jesus in this book. All those things Oneness4all said about the feelings you get... I got the whole time I was reading it. smile2 Good book, I'm almost done with it & highly recommend it! nod

PS His age at death was 86, and Mary lived into her 90's.
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#165760 - 12/02/11 10:58 PM Re: Jesus...the man,the christ. [Re: Veneo]
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I would like to quote something Sylvia said in the last chapter of the above mentioned book. She speaks of Jesus being the 1st and foremost Mystic Traveler.

"What exactly are mystical travelers? They are entities created by God with the perfection to bring about the word of our true all-loving Creator. They are usually assigned to a specific planet to help the creations on that planet evolve their souls. We also can ask to be mystical travelers, but will not attain (at least not in this life) the stature and divineness of Jesus until our souls reach a state of perfection that warrants that designation. Most mystical travelers, as in the case of Jesus, are created with that perfection already intact within them. All mystical travelers, whether they were created as such or attain that state through the evolution of their souls, take a simple oath that they will live their lives in complete service to God and go anywhere to do any good that God infuses them to do."

Resonates with me. heartbeat
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