I think someone posted this question last night, before the system crashed. In any event, on page number roman numeral xxx, in the introduction to the hardback edition of Star Signs, toward the bottom, it says:

Nahtan:"After your retreat in the mountains, you will travel back here to California, where you will meet your Twin Self."

Linda:"Twin Self? Don't you mean Twin Soul?"

Nahtan:"No. There is an important difference in the definition of the two terms, as you will soon learn for the purpose of teaching others."

Now, someone asked, with good reason, what that difference is. I swear, I thought I had run across the answer elsewhere in the book. I looked and looked for it last night. I puzzled and puzzled till my puzzler was sore.

If anyone knows, please post what you know here.

I'm going to be really brave and post 2 possibilities. The first is a possible clue that Linda gives on page 475 at the end of Star Signs, in the section called "For the Pilgrim's Progress." Under the bibliographic entry for "Ardath" and "Romance of Two Worlds," by Marie Corelli, Linda states, "The above books are classics concerning Twin Souls and mystical awareness. Other Corelli books not so helpful, but always interesting.
Corelli writing is inspired and will be extremely enlightening for those curious to learn more about 'Twin Souls...'"

That's the first thing that came to me to try to help answer that person's question. (I'm so sorry I didn't pay attention to the name! I truly apologize, everyone.)

Hmm. Ok, it's best to jump right in, even if I later find out the pool is empty!! (Ouch.)

The answer that I could SWEAR I had found somewhere was something like this:

Your Twin Self is the other half of you, the you that makes you complete. This other self, this other U of U is the complementary polarity of yours-Elf. The Yin to your Yang (or vice versa). Supposedly, with the coming of a longed for golden age, everyone will be re-united with his or her Twin Self, their other "half" that makes them whole. Linda Goodman says that Osiris and Isis were Twin Selves, for example. St. Francis of Assisi and Clare, Lancelot and Guenevere, etc. (Here it gets a little murky because Osiris and Isis were 'cut up' or 'divided' and each of the pieces, 14 for Osiris and 2 for Isis works to someday re-unite to make Osiris whole and Isis whole. Lancelot and King Arthur were supposedly 2 pieces of Osiris. Guenevere and Arthur' mother, Ygraine, were supposedly 2 pieces of Isis.) Refer to page 222 in the chapter "While the Soul Slumbers," of Star Signs. It begins in the paragraph that starts with, "Their concept substantiates Rudolf Steiner's inspired revelation that Mary the Mother and Mary Magdalene. . ." Evidently, when Osiris' 14 pieces are re-united and Isis' 2 pieces are re-united, then Osiris will recognize his Twin Self in Isis and vice versa.

If I haven't made a total mess of that, now is my opportunity to screw up royally with the term "Twin Soul." I think (and God knows how wrong I can be!) that a Twin Soul is NOT one's complementary other half. Your complementary polarity other half is your Twin Self. A Twin Soul on the other hand is analogous (similar) to a REAL twin, a birth twin. I believe I saw somewhere that a Twin Soul is someone who was born when you were,same date, same year, same time(or extremely close), same place(or extremely close), whether you are related or not, and thus your "Twin Soul" shares (as closely as possible)your astrological birth chart.

From what I crazily seem to remember, but can't find, a Twin Self is your TRUE Spiritual Mate, whereas a Twin Soul is just a spiritual and astrological sibling.

Anyone else? Please don't throw rotten tomatoes or anything. After all, what do I know?

Robert Chancellor

I just "remembered" the name of the person who posted the original question, or at least I was re-MINDED of it. MANOJ, this is for you. My apologies for not "remembering" before.

Robert Chancellor

Robert I, too, have racked my brain and further worn out my copies of Linda's books looking for an explicit answer to this question, and I haven't found it. Apart from her conversation with Nahtan that you mentioned, I cannot recall (or find) anywhere that Linda detailed a difference between the Twin S-elf and the Twin Soul ... in fact, in many passages she indicates clearly that she uses the term Twin Soul to refer to the "other half" of your True S-elf, just as Twin Soul (actually, she often just uses the term Twin by itself.) I do recall her discussing the difference between a Twin Soul and a "Soulmate" -- though again I can't find the passage -- which I think may be the distinction you were making. A Soulmate is someone you've been through many lifetimes and karmic learning experiences with, someone with whom you have a long-term "agreement" to learn and evolve together with, but NOT your literal "other half."

I'll keep hunting for the reference. By the way, you should know that one of the research projects we are undertaking for the site is to computer-index all of Linda's works, for exactly this kind of research. It will take a while to get finished, but when this is complete we will be able to enter a search keyword (like "Twin S-elf" or "Twin Soul") and be directed to EVERY MENTION of the term in ALL of Linda's works. With the large body of writing that Linda left behind, this will be an invaluable tool for tracking down and understanding any concept she discussed, and seeing it in full context. More news about this project as it gets a little further along.

Linda explains in Gooberz that we are each composed of a Spirit (a He or a She) who has a Mind and a Soul. She says our Minds remain intact but that our Souls were split into 14 pieces when Set cut Osiris into 14 pieces. Thus, a Twin Soul is one of our other Soul Pieces who shares a Mind with us and who we are seeking to re-unify with to make our Souls whole again. Our Twin S-elf, on the other hand, is the counterpart to our Spirit.

Linda uses the term Twin S-elf in Star Signs and Gooberz. But she uses the term Twin Soul in Love Signs, which I've always found odd since her encounter with Nahtan took place before the writing of Love Signs. I think the reason the term Twin Soul appears in The Pilgrim's Progress part of Star Signs is because it was basically, with just a few modifications, lifted out of Love Signs.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, KJS.

So you're saying that the Twin Soul is one of the "parts" of our divided Soul, while the Twin S-ef is the other (male or female) half of our divided Spirit? Or in the Isis-Osiris frame of reference, the 14 pieces of Osiris are all Twin Souls of each other, but only Isis herself is the Twin S-elf of the "whole" Spirit of Osiris? Hmmm, yes, that could certainly make sense ... although as you say her use of these terms at different times does confuse the issue. Would you happen to be able to pinpoint the passage(s) in Gooberz that make this clear? That would be a great help!

Thanks again.

Greg,

What you've said is how I understand things. That whole explanation of the Twin Selves/Twin Souls distinction takes place toward the end of Gooberz when the narrator is having her discussion with Heathcliff (see pages 942-946 in particular). In my copy, the final drawing is on page 1017 (the very last page of Canto 20), and it has Leonardo da Vinci written backwards. In the drawing, notice that the Soul portion (directly across from the M--Mind) of the I (Individuality) and the O (Overself) is divided into 14 pieces.

I've always wondered why the Soul was split and not the Mind, especially since the Soul is feminine and Osiris was masculine. Of course, he embodied both essences, as we all do.

GREETINGS

Hi Greg

I am Thrilled to learn of the "computer-index project" of all LA LINDA'S work!!!

Dear KJS

Thanks for Your Bright & Shining Thoughts...

Much Love
essence

Hi Guys,

When I posted this topic, I also mentioned about the astrological aspect of 'Venus conjunct, trine or sextile Pluto' described in Relationship Signs which states that any of these aspects reveal a possibility of "either a soul mate or a twin soul" implying that there is a difference between these two terms. Also, as further explanation of the term soul mate, it is stated that "soul mates are two people who were once the same individual". It goes on to say,"One person was the male half of the soul and the other was the female half. As the Universe evolved and man's relationship to God changed, the souls were separated. They have an innate longing for the other, and both of them sense that a part of themselves is missing or incomplete. From lifetime to lifetime, these souls unite and feel the joy of completion. They find the twin half of themselves."

Now, where does that leave us?

In love & confusion,

Manoj

Well, it leaves us still confused. of course!

Actually, because Relationship Signs was published after Linda's passing, with additional writing by another astrologer, it can be difficult to pick out Linda's exact words in the text. I was able to locate the following in the text of Linda's computerized Love Signs Profile (available in our Gift Shop), which is entirely Linda's own words:

quote:

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Twin Souls may be the same or opposite sex or gender, and may be brought together in any kind of love, friendship, family or business association...

Like all Earthlings, you have many Twin Souls from relationships formed throughout time eternal, some of whom will be met in the present life, either unsuspectingly ... or knowingly (the eyes remember) ... and as many as thousands of others you'll encounter in the future, for the purpose of balancing your mutual Karma.

But you have only one Twin Self, who is the exact other half of the You-of-You, from whom you've been separated for lonely, forgotten eons, without whom you feel incomplete. Each man and woman yearn and search for this other half, either consciously or unconsciously. You'll feel very close to a Twin Soul ... but you'll feel part of your own Twin Self. It's a vital difference. Twin Souls may or may not be lovers, but Twin Selves must be.

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This seems to bear out KJS' thoughts about the distinction, as does the Gooberz section she mentioned. It's worth pointing out, however, that these are Linda's specific terms for this distinction -- like all labels, it is not the map but the territory that's really important. Thus it may very well be that what some other writers mean by the term "Twin Souls" could be the same thing Linda meant by "Twil Selves."

BRAVO, Gregory, BRAVO!!!

That was so brilliant, I bet you just erased eons of bad Karma and gained unlimited good Karma by finding and sharing that with us!

THANK YOU

Robert Chancellor

Now, if someone would PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSE help me with my World-Breath question . . .

Dear Manoj, but of course, it must be you to start this thread ... Love is All and now the Twin-Selves ... thank you, Being of Love.

Dear Robert ... thanks for continuing what Manoj started ... it is the most asked question of any soul ... finding your other half to me is "the quest" of each lost soul in this earthly plane... thank you

Dear Greg and KJS, thank you so much for sharing the insights on this much-confused issue ... it is truly enlightening ... and what can be more clearer when said in Linda's words ... Thank you ...
Its great to see you back KJS ...

love
druid

Hi,

Firstly, thanks a lot RC, for continuing this thread. It was very nice of you.

Greg & KJS, your replies have helped a lot....really! Thanks a ton for that.

BTW, Greg, could you please tell me what this computerised Love Signs Profile is, after all?

Love,

Manoj

Hi Druid,

Felt nice, being called 'Being of love'. In fact we are all 'beings of love', since Love is ALL and...... and without Love, there is nothing.

LOVE,

Manoj

Most magnificent Manoj,

I hope it wasn't too presumptuous on my part. Thank you for being so tolerant of my impetuosity!
It's just that your question was so important and valid. All Knowflakes, great and small, are grateful for your question.

Respectfully,

Robert Chancellor

Hi Manoj,

The computerized Love Signs Profile is one of the last major projects Linda completed. She worked very closely with David Cochrane, the programmer of the Kepler astrological calculation program, to create it -- Linda wrote the interpretive text for all of the possible combinations of house, sign, and planetary placements between two people's charts, and David inserted those interpretations into a computer program that analyzes the charts and prints out Linda's text for all of the mutual placements and relationships that apply to two particular charts. The result is a 50+ page computer-generated report in Linda's own words that is the closest thing possible to a personal reading by Linda of the astrological compatibility between you and your partner. You can order it in our Gift Shop ("Gift Shop" on the top menu, or click [Sorry, this feature is no longer available.].)

BTW, for all you budding and professional astrologers, the Kepler program itself -- in my opinion the best astrology program on the market -- will soon be available in the Gift Shop ... as soon as I can get to it on my huge list of things to do on the site (hopefully within the next few days.)

Grindstone GREGORY,

The new academy information is SUPER, and I sure hope the Kepler software may follow in the not too distant future. I bet I'm not the only one interested in it!

Please let us know when it's there, but please don't let the nose-to-the-grindstone wear you down. I'll wait. So will the others, because we all are learning how true it is that THE BEST things in life are WORTH WAITING FOR. (Even though whoever said that ended a sentence with a preposition, it still holds true. )

Well, OLINDA,

What thinkest thou?

rc

What can I say Robert ? You've said it ALL...

THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE ABSOLUTELY WORTH WAITING FOR - TO EXPERIENCE THE TRUE MAGIC OF IT ALL - LIKE HEAVEN ON EARTH

Peace & love

Olinda

indivi dual

- do the word druids speak again?

I hope so!

Great thread! - fascinating stuff guys!

thanks!

much love,

Laura

Hello,
Yes,we are all interested in our Twin Selves, for as Linda said, finding our twin souls, of which there are (forgive me is it 12 or 14, or am I thinking of the 14 pieces of Osiris?) and our Twin Self is the most important thing we can all do at this dawning of the golden Age, and the only way we can atain the promised coming Pax et Bonum, Peace and Good. Each fitting together like puzzle pieces , until at last when all pieces have found each other oh, what a beautiful world it will be!!

Another thought I had is that Linda says ones Twin Self one has met in many other incarnations as brother, mother, father, friend, business associate or even enemy until they have earned the privilege to come together as mates or lovers in this life.

Also, the way to KNOW ones Twin Self I believe she states in Gooberz is through a trinity of blending in equal proportions:
a mental affinity, an emotional equality and lastly a spiritual affinity which then leads to the reward which is the "spring", the physical blending which is "deep, very deep." These 3 parts must be equally blended in this lifetime for the person to be the true Twin Self.

I hope many of you have found yours and that the rest of us soon will so we can help spread the word that all others may end this aching search.

Pax et bonum,
Annie

Dear Annie,
That was great! I was wondering what Pax et Bonum meant
Lots of Love
Seamistress

Hello Seamistress,
Pax et Bonum means Peace and Goodness, the qualities that will usher in the New Golden Age, of course by the re-united Isis and Osiris. These two, as well as those around them not necessarily knowing their own identities so as not to re-create the problem of Divinity worship.
When I was in Assisi, the home of St. Francis, himself considered to be one the split pieces of Osiris, there were many tiles for sale on which it was written, pax et Bonum, which of course I just had to have since it reminded me of this most beutiful part of Lindas story of hope for us all.

Peace and Goodness....Peace on Earth goodwill to men,
Annie

GREETINGS

Hi Annie

Glad to hear about your Beautiful tile !!!

Much LOVE
essence

Hello ESSENCE,

Thank you kindly. The KINDNESS just seems to flow through your words. You are
GIFTED and BLESSED.

Annie