#63512 - 09/30/99 02:24 PM
who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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I am currently reading Gooberz, and am confused as to who the 3 druids were that "died" before Carousel Bill "died." I understand Linda had 4 children, one of which also "died" (Sally.) Also, who is Anne (with an "e"?) I assumed it was one of her children who died. My mortal mind is getting stuck from appreciating the rest of the book until I sort these annoying details out! Also, could anyone please share with me why I have this capacity for anal analytical details such as these? (Linda would be proud that I recognized anal is part of analytical!) I am a moonchild (July 16) Libra rising, Scorpio moon. Also, just wanted to comment that I never realized Linda was such a physically beautiful person. Previous pictures of her that I've seen really did not do her justice. Thanks for posting some others on this website. God's blessings to all of you. Peace & Love, Sage
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#63513 - 10/02/99 02:22 AM
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#63514 - 10/02/99 04:29 PM
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#63515 - 10/02/99 05:17 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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Thank you Seamistress and Essence for your input. However, I have patiently continued reading Gooberz, and have deduced that perhaps the druids were miscarriages...except Anne with an "e". But then the message from Seamistress contained information which further confused my spinning mind. Essence? Are you there? It seems from your reply that you may have some knowledge about all this? Pray tell! And what did infant Anne die of? Talk about the Thunderbolt of Karma striking in Linda's life! So much death, she had no choice BUT to become a seeker! And through her personal tragedies, hopefully we can learn more about this dreaded death-thing. Personally, I am anti-death. Even though you may work through it and heal sufficiently, it still hurts to have only essence where once there was substance. As for myself, I don't fear my own death. I only mourn for the ones left behind. Gotta go finish the book now. Best wishes and good energy to all! Peace & Love, Sage
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#63516 - 10/02/99 05:58 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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#63517 - 10/03/99 08:22 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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I always thought Anne was a miscarriage. When she was first described as coming down from the stars, I thought this was when she was conceived. (I thought Linda just knew it was a girl and named her ahead of time). Now I am confused if she did die as an infant because of what Seamistress wrote. How sad.
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#63518 - 10/04/99 03:35 AM
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#63519 - 10/04/99 11:57 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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Thank you ESSENCE! We will see what Crystal says! Much Love, Dolphin
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#63520 - 10/05/99 03:23 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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I'm sorry, but I am new to all of this. Who is Crystal? p.s. I have finished the book (whew!) Actually, it was hard to put it down after I started. I know that the questions I am asking are much like I'm looking at the trees, instead of the forest. I do "get" the overall picture, of which much of the details are inconsequential. But darn that part of me that seeks details!! I just seem to have some missing pieces in my puzzle that I am trying to put together. Please understand....and thanks for your patience. Peace & Love, Sage
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#63521 - 10/04/99 04:02 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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My dear Essence, I have been rather busy with a few challenges these past few days...I had looked in on the site ...but could not devote any time to posting....I did however see this sensitive question and I chose to wait until I had sufficient time to devote to it but hoped that you would get there before me. Essence you are such a diligent researcher...much better than I and your discoveries have often left me amazed and bewildered....Your generosity of SPIRIT knows no bounds, so dear one...  I would be more than HAPPY for you to unfold a little of the mystery about Linda and her children, after all you have done an enormous amount of research and taught me a thing or two from it! My LOVE and Eternal Gratitude ESSENCE, Crystal.
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#63522 - 10/04/99 06:11 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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Thank you Crystal, for your reply. Now I know who you are! And Essence, it appears as though you have gathered much info about Linda's life. Is there any hope of Linda's biography being written? Meanwhile, could you also please explain who is the father of the four children that are mentioned on the jacket of Goobers? Also, when did Sam Goodman and Linda get married? Before or after Robert Brewer? Boy oh boy, I can sure see where a biography would help sort out these details! And I would like to ask, if I am the only person here who is interested in these details! I feel like I am, and am resisting the urge to feel ashamed about asking such mundane questions about such an obviously evolved person as Linda. Thanks again to all of your for your gracious accommodation of my curiosity. Peace & Love, Sage
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#63523 - 10/04/99 06:42 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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I agree with you Sage, wouldn't a biography be grand??? I'm not sure it will happen tho. Lets see what dear Essence can share with us. Annie 
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#63524 - 10/05/99 12:04 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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DEAR CRYSTAL What can I say except that you are SO NICE & TOO KIND for Words !!! !!! LOVE & SUNSHINE TO YOU ALWAYS  OK - Melissa Anne was born on March 7, 1950 and SO sadly - died of Menningitis on February 12, 1951. John Anthony was born on February 12, 1953 and died on February 15, 1953, from Preemie complications. James was the 3rd baby that LINDA lost and he may have been stillborn as there SEEm to be no written records. Linda & William Snyder (her Carousel Bill) also had two other children who did survive, Sarah and William. After Linda and Bill broke up, she married Sam Goodman and had two more children with him, a daughter and a son. The FOUR surviving children are the ones whose names you see in LINDA's bOOks. Hi Sage - I just wanted to say that I needed to know these things too and that's why I went looking for them and you know what happened after that ??? Well, first of all it brought me to CRYSTAL and then one day, sOOn after that, MORE MAGIC - once I started lOOking for LINDA inside of mysELF, instead of out in the world - there SHE was!!! And there she's going to stay - DEEP in my heart ... Much LOVE essence p.s. - Seamistress SWEETIE, I had no idea you knew too 
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#63525 - 10/05/99 04:35 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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Dear Sage, From what I know, Sam and Linda Goodman got married on September 28th 1955 and then later separated. Sally and Bill are both from her first marriage to Carousel Bill and Michael and Jill are from her marriage to Sam. I think she married Sam after she and Robert Brewer had split up. Dear ESSENCE, I had no idea you knew so much! How do you know all of this? Thank you for helping us out  Lots of Love Seamistress
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#63527 - 10/05/99 09:59 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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Thank you Crystal, Essence, and Seamistress for all your help in trying to know and understand Linda better. thanks Sage for asking. I am so sad to learn of Linda's 3 babies early deaths. I have a question, though. Didn't Linda say that woman hold the determining power in whether or not babies live????? In a section on birth control, perhaps in Star Signs, wasn't it said that the sole determining factor was in the mothers INTENT about the child??? could it have been that in some manner, these babies were not what she wished AT THE GIVEN TIME??? That for some reason she felt it was not in THEIR best interest to enter her life at the time?? Also, I have the notion, that if a child died early, it would return, if possible to the same mother. So, is it possible that of her 4 surviving children, three ARE these former babies?? Wondering, Annie 
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#63528 - 10/05/99 01:53 PM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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Thanks to all of you! Essence, have you ever thought of writing a bio on Linda? Or at least collaborating? I still have many questions! When Linda "died" was Robert Brewer still in her life? How many "earth years" old was she? Did any of her children follow in her footsteps? It is obvious that Linda was blessed, and I am wondering if any of the esoteric characteristics were passed on to her children. And Annie, I suppose all those things you mentioned are possible. It is beyond comprehension to me how one person could suffer so many losses, and still continue to start all over again so many times. I suppose when you have the understanding (the "knowing") that Linda did, you have a clearer vision that the babies didn't really die, and that gives one the strength to go on. Lordy, how I look forward to the day when I "know" that! Love and blessings to all! Sage
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#63529 - 10/05/99 11:47 PM
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GREETINGS Just adding some more thoughts ... On page 235 of GOOBERZ, Linda writes "..oh, did I really say it? when I said I had never wanted the three small druids anyway and shouted at him...that I wish they would all return to..wherever they came from even......Anne with an 'e' "yes!" I cried .... "let them return to wherever they came from to the fake oak tree, in the fake woods - as all false dreams die I wish I had never seen those druids! .. and I wish I had never seen you!"" How many people have never said something that they didn't regret, whether in a moment of rage or tremendous grief ??? One of LINDA's GRANDest Gifts to us was her allowing us to KNOW how very human she was and is  When LINDA began on the 'path of Stars' did she already KNOW that 'reincarnation is the foundation of astrology' or did she learn this along the way ??? Whether she was on a Quest for answers from the Universe to try and make sense out of the tragedies in her own life - or if FATE would just not have had it any other way, the path of Stars was LINDA's destiny ... Once on it, there SEEms to have been a parallel between how DEEP she went in her Metaphysical studies and the Depth of shattering emotion she felt each time she was visited by death and Grief. I thank MY Lucky Stars that she never turned back ... LOVE & MAGIC essence
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#63530 - 10/06/99 12:06 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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ESSENCE, you are sooo wise, sad, that linda lost 3 babies, but isn't it wyyrrd that actually she has 3 surviving children, or sO THEY say, didn't sally o.d. on drugs?? ok, and if she is here in this body temple, the record reads that there is 3 surviving children. winks, and smiles (stll learning these smilies!!! Sage, I too i have so much to ask, questing for so much, i'm very shy so to speak, everyone here is just incredible I love Linda's land,(this is another thread???)so, i observe, read, re-read and then it just comes to me sooner or later, but some things i'm not ready to touch!!!!
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#63532 - 10/07/99 02:57 AM
Re: who are the 3 druids that died before Carousel Bill?
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i'm working on it essence!!!!, yes, i'm having a tremendously terrific time!!!! LOVE AND MUSIC AND LOVE misty blue
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#63533 - 10/07/99 11:20 AM
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Annie, I think it's the child who actually decides if the conditions aren't right for them. They come when they're ready, if we are or not! Auriel
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#63534 - 10/07/99 04:56 PM
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Dear Auriel, I agree that a beam is sent forth and then the sould who chooses to be born into tht scenario comes in. However, perhaps it was in Love Signs, I'll have to go search, i thought it was said that it clearly is the mothers INTENT that allows the pregnancy to continue or not. That just clearly by WANTING OR NOT the life continues or not. I got the feeling tht it was kinda like Dplphin communication...........the mothers intent would be 'read' by the child and would allow the mothers wishes to manifest. I could be wrong.....I'll have to check. I also got some interesting ideas about a child coming back from Lindas writings on abortion.........perhaps inStar Signs, but again not sure. It was such an exquistiely beautiful image. When i read it to someone who'd had an abortion, she just wept at the thought. I think she dared not believe it. she needed it seemed to hold on to her self punishment. I'll try to get back with pages and books. Annie  Just a prayer: In the New Age may all children be wanted desperately by their parents, Allowed to grow in safety, security and love. Can you imagine the repercussions on that and the next generations????? Let us IMAGE IT.
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#63535 - 10/07/99 07:27 PM
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Sorry I don't have my Star Signs book anymore to look it up. I do think it's a child's decision to arrive during that pregnancy or a later one though. If for some reason they decide the situation is not right for them, they'll come later. Auriel
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somehow, never again needing to speak
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#63536 - 12/10/99 02:08 PM
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I think that it is to do with BOTH the child's and the mothers intent because many women miscarry when they desperately want the baby. As for the Carousel Bill, did he not die? Was Sam Goodman her Twin S-elf or just someone she did a bit of searching with upon the path of Karma? And if he was her Twin S-elf, this Saturn-seven business is making me a bit giddy to say the least. I suppose no-one really knows the answers to this question but Linda herself and maybe those very close. Does anyone know how she proved Sally didn't really die.....what happened? Finally, to repeat what Sage asked, was she at peace with all this when she died? If she wasn't, then maybe it's what prevented her from being immortal? Love and Peace xxxxx
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#63537 - 12/28/99 03:35 AM
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Is Linda's twin S elf, Robert Brewer still alive? And also how come she doesn't seem to mention Sam Goodman in Goobers, or did I miss that part?
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#63538 - 12/29/99 01:16 PM
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Hi Nyle, Welcome to the site... always great to have a new member here. *Aries* Kate
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#63539 - 01/01/00 08:10 PM
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Hi * Aries * Kate! Thanks for the welcome. *Gemini* NYLe
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#63541 - 01/18/00 03:36 AM
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hello all!! i can't express enough the delight i have found in discovering others who love linda's work as much as i. i have been learning to love astrology since i was 12 and picked up 'sun signs' by linda. it was just recently that i read gooberz, and i got so heavily into the book, after putting it down i was in a daze for hours afterwards. sage, i feel the same as you do, i have a million questions!!! i do know that, after reading gooberz, and i discovered that linda had passed away, i felt immediately shocked, and then terribly sad. for some reason, when i was reading her work, i felt very close to her, as if she were quietly speaking to me as if she were there. there does seem to be some details that are also causing my curiosity (as i am a gemini =) to spring up. here are a few, perhaps someone knows? who is sam goodman, is he the man she called her twin self in goobers? or is it robert? and how come she did not mention she was married after carousel bill? also, was she still with her twin self up until her death? i know there are more questions, but i cannot think of them as of yet. wonderful to be a part of this group!
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#63542 - 01/18/00 03:37 AM
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hello all!! i can't express enough the delight i have found in discovering others who love linda's work as much as i. i have been learning to love astrology since i was 12 and picked up 'sun signs' by linda. it was just recently that i read gooberz, and i got so heavily into the book, after putting it down i was in a daze for hours afterwards. sage, i feel the same as you do, i have a million questions!!! i do know that, after reading gooberz, and i discovered that linda had passed away, i felt immediately shocked, and then terribly sad. for some reason, when i was reading her work, i felt very close to her, as if she were quietly speaking to me as if she were there. there does seem to be some details that are also causing my curiosity (as i am a gemini =) to spring up. here are a few, perhaps someone knows? who is sam goodman, is he the man she called her twin self in goobers? or is it robert? and how come she did not mention she was married after carousel bill? also, was she still with her twin self up until her death? i know there are more questions, but i cannot think of them as of yet. wonderful to be a part of this group!
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#63543 - 01/18/00 03:37 AM
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hello all!! i can't express enough the delight i have found in discovering others who love linda's work as much as i. i have been learning to love astrology since i was 12 and picked up 'sun signs' by linda. it was just recently that i read gooberz, and i got so heavily into the book, after putting it down i was in a daze for hours afterwards. sage, i feel the same as you do, i have a million questions!!! i do know that, after reading gooberz, and i discovered that linda had passed away, i felt immediately shocked, and then terribly sad. for some reason, when i was reading her work, i felt very close to her, as if she were quietly speaking to me as if she were there. there does seem to be some details that are also causing my curiosity (as i am a gemini =) to spring up. here are a few, perhaps someone knows? who is sam goodman, is he the man she called her twin self in goobers? or is it robert? and how come she did not mention she was married after carousel bill? also, was she still with her twin self up until her death? i know there are more questions, but i cannot think of them as of yet. wonderful to be a part of this group!
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#63545 - 01/18/00 08:54 AM
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Welcome to this magickal site, Crystallyne. I'm sorry I don't have the answers- these are questions I ask as well. On the cover or one of the introductory pages of "Gooberz", Linda says that "Gooberz" is partly fiction, partly non-fiction; so I guess it's something we have to figure out ourS-elves! There are other threads where similar questions have been asked where someone explains that first Linda married Bill Snyder, then Sam Goodman, then Robert Brewer (not all at once, mind!) Tricky business, isn't it? Either the Saturn-seven was at it a lot, or Sam was just another man she had karma to sort out with, i.e the difference being she wasn't as alone during those years as she was in the book. Actually, can anyone tell me more about Bill? Did any of her husbands die or not?!
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#63546 - 01/19/00 02:42 AM
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=) moonglow, yes you are absolutely right. and, esotericem, i do see what you mean, when i read the cover the first time, i didn't take it so literally, i took it more as it was all truth, but it was her truth, and truth can appear in many ways to different people. perhaps she was as lonely during those years, but not neccessarily physically without someone, but in her heart, lonely for her twim S-elf. may i also inquire?-are there other pictures of her available here or elsewhere? each of the three i have seen all look completely different, but especially the one in the back of the book 'sun signs'.
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#63547 - 01/19/00 07:15 AM
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Yes, I agree- she does look very different on all the pictures. I don't know where you can find more pictures, except here. Crystal might. LOve
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#63548 - 05/31/00 10:15 PM
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