hi Asamee,

like dolphin2 i'm on webtv and some of the long threads are hard to load, so i thought you wouldn't mind if i continued our conversations here.

i've been feeling compelled to explore not only the hidden wisdom in our words, but also the letters themselves. i just got through reading, conversations with god book 3, and at one point god says that if you conceive of yourself as wanting, you will remain in such a state (or something to that effect). my understanding is that you need to know what you want in order to have it, but once you know, you should transfer your thoughts from being in want, to being having it; i can't explain it better, sorry.

what all of this is really leading to is my contemplation of the words want, desire, and will. when you really want something it has a tendency to "naw at" (want lexied phonetically) you. this emotional state can be somewhat upsetting.

desire, "i sire", "i seed", is a positive intent of action, and perhaps this word should be used to affirm our intent, once we know what we want.

best of all though, was what came to me about the word, will. in visualizing the word, the "i" stuck itself in the middle of the "w", and then the 2 "l's" lined up behind the w, one on either side of the outer arms of the w ; this graphic is dimensional. the i, is the central/god i of us all; the w, is the double spouted pouring recepticle (power), an the 2 ll's are the love to be poured. also, taking a page from my tarot studies, i see that the l's are pillars, one to left and one to right (opposites). could this indicate that we have the choice to use our will to good or ill?

the determining "i" when tuned into, i believe, always opts for love. the expression of will, born of want , and acted upon through desire, is the most powerful determination. use your will to keep pouring love Asamee.

happy trails,
spot

Great post! Thanks.

I just want to add that the word desire is best not used in an affirmation. If your affirmation manifests, it will only manifest more desire for what you want, rather than what you want. You've already got the desire, so try using the word deserve. I deserve a new car, rather than I desire a new car. If you desire something, it will never come to you unless you BELIEVE that you deserve it. To deserve something, you do not need justification, but rather a BELIEF that you are a god, and that YOU CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY. Whatever happens in physicality, first happens in THOHT. Your situation in life is a direct manifestation of your THOHTS AND BELIEFS. If there is something that you don't have that you want, the reason you don't have it is that you are blocking it with your BELIEFS. Your situation in life is maintained by the patterns of consciousness that you maintain. Most of the patterns of consciousness that we maintain, we do so out of habit and are not even fully conscious of them. A good first step is always to examine our beliefs and follow them to their sources. Affirmations are an extremely effective means of changing those beliefs and those robotic patterns of consciousness. But using the word 'desire' in an affirmation can only change your desire, not your befiefs. Try saying, "I deserve that new car, and I WILL have it." Always try to be as clear as possible of any other THOHTS while stating an affirmation. Use as much INTENT as you can muster, and don't keep saying the same affirmation for more than about ten days. It has to be released and forgotten before manifesting.

Joy and more joy,
White Feather

Love your thread SW2...very exciting for me to see you delving into my favorite focus of study.
White Feather adds refinement to the interpretation and clarity is what we seek.

This concept of wanting...James Redfield's latest book..."Secrets of Shambahla" address's this issues in the first chapter.
You may want to read it to expand further on the subject.

Interesting that I read the book last December...the first night I read the passage about 'wanting'..that next morning I changed the entire structure of my meditation translating everything into a positive affirmation. It is so full filling now...doing my Affirmation Time...giving Thanks and Gratitude for Abundance that flows constantly...which is the Natural State of Being for All Presence.

It wasn't so much that I didn't believe I deserve what I design...but more falling into patterns of less than....Where do they come from? Just listen to our world reality translated through the media...be it any form. You end up feeling the disparity of a world in crisis and no way to solve it.

What can we do?

Visualization Affirmation verbalizing acknowledgement and intentions

If I asked you to reply ... right at this moment... to describe our Plan*it Earth...
Would you begin with the obvious 'ill's'..
the destructive demands we place upon the earth and their obvious absurdity?????

I am not suggesting to be in a state of denial with our Reality Check. I am suggesting visualizing Earth as we do Heaven.
Rather than giving energy to the destructive vision...see Heaven On Earth...NOW.

Find your source of Heaven energy...be it a mountain in your backyard or a bloomin' Tulip on your windowsill. Let that be the Window of Energy ...look at it...fill with the resonance that attracted you... and expand the feeling within your physical body.
Most important...know you can draw from that source...anytime. Visualization is the Vital Tool for Creativity. And it's Free

That makes a statement in itself

Affirmation Verbalizing acknowledgement
When you embrace a THOHT...you are saying...
I honor your presence. For example...I begin my affirmations by addressing each of the following... OK..there will be Know snickering as to how many I address
Spirit Guides * Elementals * Deva's * Angelic Realm * Soul Flow * Devine Raise of Color * I AM OverSoul * Christ OverSoul * South * West * North * East * Grandfather Sun & Juno Sky * MotherGrandMother Earth and Moon * Sacred God Source *
So, far, I feel comfortable that I have it pretty well covered...and that's one big embrace

I say to each one.."It is with Love that I call forth your presence. I give heartfelt thanks and deepest gratitude that your gift is ever present flowing together with me as One."

Many of our tried and true affirmations are filled with the message that 'I am less than and apart from that which I hold in highest esteem...God Source.' I am not worthy...is a good example. Of course everyone is worthy.. we came from the One Source...just many expressions or individuation.

I hope I have not strayed from relevancy? There is more I would like to share with the letters/words, but my eye's are so sleepy

Follow Your Heart And Eat Alphbet Soup
Pat

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When the cavalry came charging to the rescue of those too firmly embedded in physicality ... the very beginning of this mission, it was pouring Love that was our major focus ,process and implement. Perhaps
that is why your guides(?) keep emphasizing using our will to pour Love.

The old saying is... .. " With Love / God ALL things are possible ", so for those of us who do not necessarily even use affirmations, pouring Love is a good message. Thanks . Keep 'em coming . hehe

BLOOM Where You're Planted ,
Wildflowers

What beautiful thoughts you have. I pictured the vessel you described. It is similar to an ancient olla that we have in our family. An olla or water jug, which pours from both sides, but yours supplies "pure love". The two ii s or pillars represent balance, the positive and negative, the polar opposites, but always in balance.

As for the word will, you must think I will have all I deserve, I will give loving thoughts to all I come in contact with, I will not fear anything, and I will succeed in all that I undertake. It is done. (Please understand this is just a guideline, as I would not presume to tell you what to do or how to behave.)

White Feather wrote an excellent and beautiful description of how you can achieve your own reality and all that you believe you can have and do. In Conversations with God, I don't remember which volume, it also describes so many positive ways to accomplish your goals. Believe and visualize that it is already accomplished. Then just remember to get rid of fear and let love take its place.

Lovingly,

Dolphin2

you are all contributing admirably to this process for me. Thank you

happy trails,
spot

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We Are All One. Ours is not a better way, it is simply another way. Neale Donald Walsch

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LOVE
LOVE
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Peace, Sea~j~~~~~~******~~

You are so Creative and Poetic. The Love just pours out of you. What a nice vision you created with all the hearts.

Donna

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Wherever You Are, Whatever You Do, A Part Of You Is Experiencing Universal LOVE.

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THINK GOOOD THOUGHTS

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Once again, you have blown me away!

White Feather

you make me feel so LOVED . your enthusiasm and love would cure the whole world, if only we could spray it on everybody i'll tell the perfume makers that they can make some money on this, and maybe we'll get to the masses. much love to you and all.

happy trails,
spot

SeaJ BLOOMS .
Wildflowers

SeaJ, I was just teasing you . Are you angry at me..? I thought you knew I LOVE all that energy , enthusiasm and love that burst forth from you . If I hurt your feelings , I am sincerely sorry.

BLOOM Where You Are Planted ,
Wildflowers

I've been wondering where you were , young lady. People have been asking for you over in Star Chat. We miss your joy and playfulness when you aren't posting.

It is a good idea that you posted that link again. If I remember right SeaJ posted it early on in one of the Asamee threads, which now has many posts. I have been searching for more information on Lemuria to supplement what we have so far. There is some conflicting information on the internet, but I may start threads on Lemuria, Mu, Egypt, and Tibet. Not necessarily together. This would be for those who are more interested in or relate to one ancient civilization over another. I just mentioned this in my response to artifax in the Question for White Feather thread. I will try to start these in the next two days, as soon as I have enough information gathered.

It is beginning to feel like we are having classes in ancient civilizations - something I have never studied. It is a joy to be learning with all of you.

Happiness and Blessings to AllONE,

Dolphin2

Hey Wildflowers!
No need for apologies! I LOVE your sincerity. There was never any offense taken.
If you would've meant to be mean, I would've sensed that. But all I ever sense is kind intentions from you.(I'm very sensitive u know. )

ALL,
Some of the Knowflakes on the other threads expressed sadness or a let down feeling that the Asamee threads were no longer active because they felt the Asamee threads to be much more positive than many of the other threads. At least they said this in so many words?
I'd like to add that I feel when we are on these threads, we are feeling a "higher vibration." Asamee created a safe & sacred circle of LOVE & TRUST in which we could be open and as Spotted Whale Wisely told us; the LOVE began rising to the surface of our collective awareness of Asamee and poured forth, bathing anyone whom was present in LIGHT WAVES of LOVE.
It's like standing underneath a waterfall of LOVE when we re-member together.

I just hope Pat returns soon! She always leaves such LOVE in her wake.

Peace, Love, Light and Laughter,
SeaJ

I feel the same about the Asamee threads. there is a higher vibration at work. I do think some of us got sidetracked doing taxes and so on two weeks ago. And White Feather has an internet site as well as his bookstore, so I imagine he is much busier than usual. And Pat is relocating, I believe at the moment, as she has not responded to my e-mails. But not to worry, we will get our second wind, as this seems meant to be at this time.

MoeDoe and Jovette seem to be quite interested in Egypt and I would imagine that there are different members who re-member other lifetimes, not just Atlantis. I re-member Greece and Egypt. Throughout my life I have had a strong affinity for Greece. So we will do what we can to bring forth all of the civilizations. I have been hesitant, because I do not know quite where to begin those threads without more knowledge about them. I have been receiving most of my knowledge about Atlantis from "knowing" and re-membering, which is the gathering together of our Asamee.

Since we have no intention of excluding anyone, it would seem that those who re-member other times should speak up. But they probably need a forum with a title they relate to in which to do it. So be it. We will make new threads.

With Love,
Dolphin2

That thread I mentioned earlier has ancient Egypt info too. Haven't found anything on Tibet yet, but if Ido , I will keep our teachings in mind. Haven't gotten to your new thread yet.... I'm stll stuck in the past ! hehehe I'm still working on the immortality threads . I'll catch up with you soon.

Thanks for helping us figure out just what it is we are remembering. Doesn't THAT sound strange..? hehehe

BLOOM With Remembering , Love and Sharing ,
Wildflowers

I went searching the internet and have I ever found a link to end all links. This is a website for over one thousand links to websites on Ancient civilizations and includes everything from archaeology to languages and cultures to everyday life, all organized with the number of hits and ratings of each site. And the woman who updates the site is apologizing, because she doesn't have much time to update it. It is current as of 24 hours ago! Awesome.

Here is the link until I get the threads started. It is called the Ancient World Web
http://www.julen.net/ancient/

Have fun and then bring what you find back to share with us from each of your ancient worlds. Ok?

Love and Happiness
Dolphin2

I am not sure what is happening here, but the link I wrote above for The Ancient World Web is exactly as it printed out on the top of the site Index. It won't open for me either and I was in there last night. I found it from another website, which now won't open either. And I found that one through Infoseek search engine. That one is called History Online and when you go to Ancient Civilizations within that site you can find The Ancient World Web: The Ultimate Index of All Things Ancient.

If I do find another way to access these I will post the links in the Re-membering Ancient Worlds thread. Thanks for your patience.

Wth Love and Affection,

Dolphin2

Thanks for the find . Looks as if it will help a lot.

BLOOM Heartily, With Satisfaction,
Wildflowers

Thank you for reminding me. I forgot to tell everyONE that The Ancient World Web apparently was either too busy or was down the first day I posted the link. I have also been able to access it now. So happy sleuthing everyONE.

Dolphin2

Nicole says that she had an NDE. There is nothing unusual about that . hehehe She says she had to do a past life review ( judgment of her past life ) , that there were no angels judging her, no Jesus judging her , nor any other " big shot " figure.... hehehe She had to do it herself. This is not particularly news either for those of us who have followed what others have had to say about NDEs.

What she came away with was the message that no matter what good works she did , or how many , or for whom , the ONLY thng that mattered in judging was whether or not her deeds were performed / committed with UNCONDITIONAL LOVE . I thought about Spot's message about pouring love, realized how this fits , and began wondering about SO many things.

I wrote about it all in great detail, and lost it! hehehe Since I had already lost two other messages recently that were also detailed and intense, I gave up ....again !

Pouring love/ unconditional love .... easy to say. Questions.... hehehe

How do you KNOW when you are being unconditionally loving ..? If you love the perpetrator of a problem , but find there is no way you can love the problem ( even if it is karma ) are you being unconditionally loving, or only partially so..?

Example : We ( yes, all of us Asamee ... hehehe ) are in WWII, in a concentration camp in Auswitz ( Sp..? ) [ Note: Anyone who was " different " was put into these camps : gypsies, homosexuals , certain religiuos groups We do tend to be somewhat different , Asamee... hehe NO OFFENSE INTENDED ] So, to re-set my scene . We are there. We manage ( because we are enlightened .. hehe.. to love our captors, the people who betrayed us by revealing our hiding places , the people who are keeping the war going for profit motives, the person who steals our stale hunk of bread, our only food for days.... everyone!

Are we , in order to be unconditionally loving, required to take it one step further..? Would it be not-quite-sane ( yes, I know " sane " is relative ... hehe ) to love the situation , the world situation and/ or ours.. ( in spite of " karma " , remember )

BLOOM With Anticipation Of Asamee Answers,
Wildflowers

BLOOM With a Better Memory , hehehee
Wildflowers

I also have been losing a lot of detailed posts lately. Although I am not a quitter either, I gave up too. It takes a lot of thought and energy sometimes, to say how we feel about something, especially when it may be a flowing inspiration.

I understand completely about the conditional love dilemma. If we evolve to the place where we can give this to everyone and then have a circumstance occur that is something that is rather unpleasant, even though we can love the perpetrator (or one responsible) and perhaps even understand why - it still doesn't make it any less unpleasant. It is very hard to love the situation while forgiving the the person. In some instances later we can see this might be for our own good, but this does not happen in all situations and it would be unrealistic to think that it does.

I feel I do understand everything you have related, except I was alive in this life during the second world war, so had to see the horrible things that were happening during that time from a distance through films, newspapers, and magazines. We did many things, even as children, to help the war effort and we prayed an awful lot. I do believe that the concerted effort and truly prayerful thoughts of those left behind as well as those within the countries being ravaged, finally stopped the war and helped some of the people to survive. It was a time when all thoughts were on the war, because most of us had relatives overseas.

I did not see these loving prayerful thoughts as much in evidence during the Korean War or the Vietnam war. Positive collective thoughts can overcome many negative actions. I would imagine anyone who has lived during any of those times and has reincarnated would do everything possible to prevent this from happening again.

May we have positive thoughts and unconditional love always.

Dolphin2

I kept this one short , so I didn't get kicked all the way back to the dialing mechanism.... hehehe

BLOOM Within The Power Of Prayer,
Wildflowers

So does anyone have any memories of the Trojan War? What about ancient Persia?

Joy and amazement,
White Feather

BLOOM Even When It Seems Impossible ,
Wildflowers

I think there must be some information we are suppressing about Ancient Persia and the Sumerians as well. There should also be information from someone about Ancient India. We have many members from various parts of India and I thought maybe some of them might have had earlier lives there also. So please add to this thread or RE-membering Ancient Civilizations, wherever the memories will fit.

Blessings,
Dolphin2