#67631 - 04/29/00 01:33 AM
Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Hello and welcome AllONE,  There has been some discussion about starting threads about Egypt, Lemuria, and other Ancient Civilizations. So let us start here with a general discussion that can include any and all ancient worlds and see how it develops. As far as I can see this can include any time period in the universe and it does not have to be limited to earth. I mention this, because I have known people who have re-membered lives on other planets. Now this may be too broad for one thread, but I think it will sort itself out as we go along and then we can open up special threads for those ideas that take off. Sort of like spinning off a TV show when it gets popular as some other threads have done. As in other threads, like the Asamee and the Dolphins, Whooping Cranes, etc. just let yourself relax and let the information - that you think about and remember - flow. One does not have to go into meditation to do this. Each person has their own style of receiving information. You may receive information in your sleep or in what is called Dreamtime by some. This is more a period between waking and sleeping and feels like a real experience, which I believe it is. Others receive information telepathically. There is not one right way. I think this will be fun. I hope so. Toward More Love and Enlightenment, Dolphin2 
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#67633 - 04/29/00 01:14 PM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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hi dolphin2, i expect this thread will yield a lot of fruit. here's my 2 cents so far. my remeberence of ancient civilizations have been of decsending into pyramids. at odd times, when i walk down a flight of steps, i flash back to those other decents. what puzzles me just a bit is that i always hear of ppl climbing up into chambers; was the work i was doing in the pyramids not for public view - i wonder. the only other worldy experience i had came when i saw star wars on the big screen. luke skywalker went outside after arguing with his uncle and stood on a sandy mound watching the sky. twilight was coming on because the two suns of tatoine were setting. as i saw those twin suns pictured on the screen, i thought, HOME. my next thought was that now i know why our sky looks so lonely. I always expect to see multiple suns, and at least one addtional moon. i'm interested to read other ppl's expieriences. there are probably a lot of us whose memories can be stirred by others rememberences. happy trails, spot
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#67634 - 04/29/00 02:05 PM
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DaleLoiuse , You DID it ! You DID it ! Thank you . Here is where we put all the weird remembrances that don't quite seem to fit anywhere else! hahahahaha I have been waiting for this one. You may be sorry ,DaleLouise . It can get pretty weird . hehehe Ok Spot . YES. Star Wars took me HOME too. Guess we spent a lifetime or two together , Spot . What do ya think ..? hehe I was sitting in the theatre watching, wondering if i was going to like this picture, when all of a sudden their craft leapt into hyperspace . I was dumbfounded at the feelings that assailed me . I was deleriously happy . I was HOME ! I cheered . ( We were a noisy group in that theatre ! hehe) I couldn't believe what had happened to me. I was instantly saddened b/c I knew it was going to end, and I would still be in the theatre, far removed from home. As for " the truth " of it all, I haven''t a clue! NEXT ! hehehe I was sitting in class one night , wondering if it would ever end. I was working 5 days a week, and attending school 4 nights a week , and I wanted to go home and go to sleep. The judge said something . One of the students made a smart remark , and I mumbled something under my breath ( that was also a smart remark ... hehe) Suddenly , I was sitting in a classroom identical to the one Wildflowers was in , but I was a guy , olive-skinned , wearing a toga . I had black , wavy hair , and a large " Roman " beak of a nose, with bushy , black eyebrows. The sequence of events repeated itself. The teacher made the SAME comment ; a student made the SAME smart remark ; and I , the ancient me , made the EXACT same comment I had made as Wildflowers! The classroom looked exactly the same except that , though we were also studying law , all of the students were male . All wore togas. All were the same color ... olive-skinned, as I was. The classroom seemed to have the same number of students. The individual chairs with side-desk attached had become long tables with long benches that seated several students pulled up to them. I don't remember " hearing " what language we were speaking. I remember beginning to cry saying , " I will NEVER let him down AGAIN . " I said it over and over , and I was horribly sad and disappointed in myself. I don't know , even to this day consciously what I was upset about , or who I was talking about , but I KNEW I had ,by OMISSION ,commited some unforgiveable sin . I " came to " still sitting in my chair in class in the present day , tears still in my eyes, overwhelming sad feeling still present. I was embarrassed, surprised , you name it ! No one appeared to have noticed that I had been " away ", although I thought I had been gone for a while. No one appeared to have noticed anythig different , although I thought I had been crying pretty loudly .... hehehe The class continued. I tried to pay attention , all the while wondering who/ where / why / when / I had been . Switch to present day . I had thought until I met Asamee , that I had been a Roman or Greek guy, but now I wonder if I was in an even more ancient civilization. Perhaps I shall never know. but I tell you one thing , ... hehehe whoever that other guy is , and whatever it is I owe him , I'm gonna meet up with him and PAY him ! I NEVER want to feel slapped upside the head like that again ! ROFL Oh , and DaleLouise , there is MORE, but I'll give you a rest . hehehe BLOOM , yesterday , today and tomorrow , Wildflowers
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#67636 - 04/30/00 03:34 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Dear Mermaid, spottedwhale2, wildflowers and aries,  This is GOOD! It is what I was hoping for, such a wide variety of experiences to share and connect with. I will have more to say later. At some point, I will discuss my recollections of Ancient Greece, which have been with me since I was 15. Incidentally, Mermaid, do you ever re-member being a mermaid? I feel I have been, but don't know when. I am sure there are so many out in Linda Land who will either connect with you or bring up experiences about other places and times as well, such as Tibet, India, Mesopotamia, Assyria, and so on. And there may be some places re-membered like the Star Wars recollections that you may not yet know the name of, but maybe someone else will. This is great. With Love and Rainbows, Dolphin2
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#67638 - 04/30/00 12:16 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Dale, I'm glad you started this thread. I wish I had some of those memories that alot of you have. I just know there were certain stories and even a song from my childhood about Atlantis(I think it was by Donovan) Anyone here old enough to remember him????-that always stirred something in me. The Greek and Roman God stories-they seemed like real people to me. I've always loved history and obviously from everyone's reaction around me at that time I cared about other times, people and places more than the other kids my age did. I wish I could remember because I'm sure I was in Atlantis and Greece. It's just a feeling so far, not a memory. Maybe when I learn how to meditate it'll stir those memories for me. Dale have you come across any obvious links for us by compiling our birth data? I'm sure we knew each other before because look how close we've become so easily. This site feels like home that's for sure. That's my two cents worth for now.
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#67639 - 04/30/00 12:42 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Dear Peggy and All  I have just gotten access to the charts and have started to print out the horoscopes charts for each of you that posted your birthdata. I have seen some connections already, but in order to do this right I feel a matrix is in order. I will create this without a computer, so it will be a little slower. I am very good at statistics and charting, but I will want to look up the connections between nodes and planets. Then I will need to write these down and when I am done with that I will see if I can obtain more information from my intuition. What would be ideal would be to have the original dates of the beginning of each civilization. But unless someone here is exceptionally well-informed, I do not think we will be receiving that information, which would provide a horoscope for Atlantis, Egypt, Greece, etc. Then we could tie in our current chart with the ancient chart. So our best bet is to compare ours with each others. Peggy, just relax and don't try to re-member. What you need to learn will come to you.  Donna, mermaids in your dreams, since such a young age. That really sound like re-membering. I have always related to mermaids, too. I used to draw them all the time and I collect them, too. They have been an enigma for years. I amdoing research on them right now. I am sure they are connected with dolphins. I am trying to find the first reference to them, to place them in a time period. I have a most peculiar book on Atlantis that refers to them, but I haven't finished reading it. What is strangest about this book is that it is supposed to be entirely true with proof of Atlantis and the current inhabitants of same, who live underwater. !!  Swimming with the Pod, Dolphin2
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#67641 - 04/30/00 01:20 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Hi Aries,  It is me, Dale, that is preparing the charts. You may give me your birthdata here if you want. Or, if you want to keep it private, you will need to get in touch with Greg and ask him to give me your e-mail address. He is in Florida right now for his son's wedding, so he might not get back to you right away. The data needed is the date of birth, time of day born, and the birthplace. By the way, I have been trying to get into the Linda Goodman chart site and it is just too busy right now, so I will try again later or go to another site to do it. With Dolphin Smiles,  Dolphin2
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#67644 - 04/30/00 07:28 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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In view of the talk of mermaids (yes I have very strong feelings around water) this may be of interest. The traditional story of our development from apes fails to explain several strange features of our anatomy and behaviour. For example, our lack of ability to run very fast compared to other hunters or even monkeys. Also why did we lose our fur when so many mammals have remained hairy? And why do the bodies of women carry even less hair than men when they are less muscular and less athletic than the males. If they could not run so fast why did they need such naked, cooling skins? So all this suggests something else happened during our development and the only serious suggestion that has been put forward (to great oppositon) is the aquatic theory of man's development. Basically this argues that our ancestors passed through a water-living stage at the tme when most of our modern features first appeared. Evidence for the theory is as follows: - humans have a layer of subcutaneous fat attached to their skin (unlike other primates) could this be human blubber? - humans have hair-tracts running in different directions from those of apes - evolved apparantly to streamline when the human body is moving through water - we have more flexible spines than apes enabling us to swin like otters - we weep copious tears unlike any other primate but like many other marine animals - our sense of balance is as good as a sealion and much better than other primates - the lack of hair helps streamlining our smooth passage through water - we have vestigial partial webbing between our fingers and toes unlike any other primate (particularly between thumb and forefinger) Even today 7% of the world's population have webbed toes (in fact I know someone who has!) - we can swin with great athleticism whereas the ape cannot swin at all - we can hold our breath under water for up to 3.5 minutes, our voluntary breath control goes beyond anything seen in other primates - we have a 'diving reflex' like other marine mammals. Special nerve endings on our faces trigger this reflex only when the facial region is submerged in water. It automatically closes down the airway, reducing the risk of swallowing water and constricts the samll air-passages in the lungs. The heart rate is slowed down to half-speed and blood is shunted to the vital organs. All this is pretty much the opposite of what would happen if you dropped an ape in the water with its face beneath the surface - we have a unique nose shape that shields the nostrils from water intake when we dive - newborn babies automatically hold their breath when placed under water and swim without fear if placed gently below the surface in a prone position - last but not least we have an unusual love of water for a primate which shows in a hundred different ways Desmond Morris (one of the zoologists who champion this view) believes the traditional view of evolution must be only half of the picture. At somepoint it seems we lead a 'penguin-like' existance. Could this be where some of these memories are coming from?
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#67645 - 04/30/00 04:13 PM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Mermaid, that is very interesting conjecture; however, it ignores much of the real evidence. We lost our "fur," because we control our environment (heating and air conditioning). It also cannot be ignored that there is only a 2 percent difference in the DNA between primates and modern man. We share that genetic similarity with no other creatures on Earth! That 2 percent differential gives us all the advantages you mentioned over the apes. WE DID NOT EVOLVE FROM PRIMATES! Primates and humans had a common ancestor; one branch became primates, and one branch became prehistoric man. All Life originated in the oceans. We can see how close or distant we are to different phyla by looking for similarities in DNA. It is irrefutable.  Peace. ------------------ "When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes." Erasmus
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#67646 - 04/30/00 06:10 PM
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Greetings, everyONE! Wildflowers, Your story about the classroom is eerily similar to a part of The Oversoul 7 Trilogy, by Jane Roberts. Uncannily similar! I believe it was near the end of the Oversoul 7 book that a scene is described just like yours! In addition to past lives, future lives, and other-planetary lives, what about memories of our time BETWEEN LIVES? I don't have any such memories, but does anyone else? Mermaid, Information has come from many sources stating that we humans used to be able to function normally under water. My feeling is that, yes, we did. I think we were able to function in both water and air. I think it was a long long long time ago. I, too, have vague memories of ancient Greece. Mostly it is feelings. I have a strong affinity to Mediterranean climates, white-washed stucco houses, olive trees, and beaches along the sea. (And I love Stephanotis flowers.) I don't feel my Greek lives were very significant. They were mostly about pleasure, I think. Lazy afternoons, sumptuous feasts, strolling through gardens, lavish parties, swimming in the sea, and lots of sex. It is like I took a couple of 'vacation lives' there. I don't remember who brought up dramatic theater being used to learn lessons, but that REALLY rings true to me. I can't come up with any other specifics, though. Yes indeed, this is another fun thread! Thanks, DaleLouise. Sandy beaches, White Feather
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#67647 - 04/30/00 08:03 PM
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[Re: White Feather]
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WHITE FEATHER ! WELCOME BACK ! Don't go away again ! hehehe Thank you for that information. Do you suppose the same thing happened to Jane Roberts..? Is this a science fiction series you are speaking of ... Oversoul 7 ..? Is is popular enough for libraries to have it..? ( I am a little short of money ... as usual . I LOVE bookstores , even better than candy , and that's saying something ! hehe, but I usually browse... Yes, one of " those". Not intentionally, financially. ) Do you think reading the series will give me a clue as to what the vision was telling me..? Yes, I have between life "memories", but they are quite amorphous. I can put no " face " to anything. I just " know". Guess that doesn't help much . hehehe Anyway , again welcome back. BLOOM Within DaleLouise's Excellent, Fun Thread , Wildflowers
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#67648 - 04/30/00 08:14 PM
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Wildflowers-I just love the way you "Giggle"! I swear I can hear it when I read your posts! Keep bloomin' girl!
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#67649 - 04/30/00 09:00 PM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Greetings, everyONE! I got my first impressions of a life during the ancient Mayan Civilization back in the Eighties while I was working as a stonemason. I never had any inclination whatsoever to work as a stonemason, or as anything else in the 'construction trade'. Working with my hands in a 'manly' way simply wasn't ME. I was always a book person. I had always worn nice clothes and a tie to work, and I never got dirty at work. I was always the one who told everyone else what to do, and I certainly never lifted anything that was too heavy. But I had given that up for the time being, besides, I was living out in the country now and no one wore ties to work out there. My financial situation at the time necessitated a job in a hurry, and there were no jobs available that required my abilities, so when I was offered a job as a stone mason apprentice, I reluctantly accepted the offer. Of course, under my breath, I was saying, "Apprentice, schmentice." I just needed a quick job, not a career. Five years later I gave up stone masonry to move on to other things. It turned out I was a natural at it. (I had done it before!) I had one of the best teachers in all of New Mexico, and became a very good stone mason, if I may be so bold as to say so. It was a wonderful experience. That quickie job turned out to be a mini career which I hold very close to my heart. We only worked with natural rock, never bricks or cinder block or anything man-made. We did rock walls, terraced walls, flagstone patios, steps....all outdoor stuff. We were good and expensive, so we mostly worked for rich people. In the early years of my mini-career, we got a job from a doctor in Los Alamos. He had a beautiful house that sat right on the edge of a 300 ft. cliff. The views from his back yard were breathtaking! He had a little sitting area with the very best views, but the hillside behind it was eroding, and he wanted some rock retaining walls built to hold back the hillside. The doctor brought a big fat coffee table book out from his house and showed us a picture of some Mayan ruins. "This is what I want the walls to look like," he said. "I want them to look like they are 10,000 years old." Nothing like a challenge.... It was during this job that I had my first "Mayan experience". One hot afternoon, I was on my knees in the dirt struggling with a rock that just did not want to fit where I was putting it. I kept trying, though, and frustration mounted. Then suddenly Spirit said, "You've got the wrong rock." So I threw that rock down and went to find another. I walked among scores of rocks we had laid out to be ready to be used. I then had the strange notion to listen to the rocks rather than look at them for shape. I wasn't listening for sound, though, but rather for some kind of vibration. Very soon after I stopped 'looking' for the right rock, a certain rock caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. I went to it, picked it up, and took it to where I was working. It was a perfect fit! I kept working like this, and at some point later in the afternoon I was working on another part of the wall when I was momentarily transported to the ancient Mayaland. I was doing the very exact same thing in Mayaland--I was working with stones--except I was building a pyramid instead of a wall. I was stooped over fitting a stone. It was incredibly hot and I was sweating. There was a lot of dust in the air, from the many many workers. I was just one of scores of stonemasons working on the pyramid. As one of the lords of the stonemasons walked by, I could feel my fellow workers' hatred of their overseers. We were working in quasi-slavehood. I could sense that most of my co-workers were working on the pyramid simply as a means to provide for their families. I felt distanced from both my co-workers and the overseers, and felt obligation only to the structure we were building. I could communicate and 'feel' the stones back then. I also had a very deep understanding of the significance of the structure. I couldn't articulate it, but I could feel the importance, and I could sense that what we were doing would transcend time. I could feel future eyes and future hands seeing and touching the rocks I was then working on. As my co-workers talked and cursed and spit, and as the overseers admonished, my attention was totally on the stones we were working with. I was trying to tune into the future through those rocks.... Then suddenly I was in New Mexico again, with goosebumps erupting all over my body, despite the intense heat. I looked around me to get my bearings. I was flabergasted by the crystal clear vision. I couldn't work for a while, so I took a break. I replayed the whole vision again in my mind so that I would be sure to remember it. That was the first time it happened.... White Feather Copyright 2000 White Feather
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#67650 - 04/30/00 09:35 PM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
[Re: White Feather]
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Dearest Wildflowers, If you will forward me your mailing address through Gregory, I will send you my copy of the Oversoul 7 Trilogy. I normally wouldn't do this, but Spirit is saying that it is important. (Your description of the classroom scene was just too uncanny to be insignificant.) Please understand that you don't have to do this, but if it is cool with you, then it is cool with me. It will probably be difficult to find a copy of this book in your library. If you can, though, fine! Remember, it is actually three books in one. You may be able to find one, but not the others. I think it is very important to read all 3 books in order. It is handy to have all 3 in one edition. By the way, I wouldn't call it Science Fiction, but I could see it if someone would. Most booksellers list it with all the Seth books, or in Visionary Fiction. (Remember, though, Seth had nothing to do with it.) You have gifted me with so much inspiration that I would be honored to do this, if it is okay with you. I never own books, I merely caretake them (and read them) until the right person comes along to pass them on to. Rocks and stones, White Feather
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#67651 - 04/30/00 11:56 PM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Greetings to ALL; Love-ly to hear you all again. I just had to put my 2 cents worth in on this lovely thread (oh, the tapestries we could weave with these threads). Dear Mermaid--your mention of Drama therapy could not go unanswered. I have no "memories" perse of past lives or anything in between. I have lived many lives, however, in my theatrical pursuits. I think that this is the reason that I have no "memories." I believe that I live my lives through the roles I have played, and the ones I continue to play. Drama has become (and maybe it always was) a way for me to explore all the facets of the crystal-like substance that is me. There is an exercise that I do with my students: I try to have them relax as completely as possible, and feel themselves sink into the floor--I try for that liquid feeling that many experience in total relaxation--the feeling that one is contained in a clear floor, with all that is themselves twisting and turning beneath the window that lets light shine on the pieces of themselves that turn towards the light. All of us have pieces that routinely live in the light--the pieces we show and have chosen to live with in this life--the pieces that we have chosen to represent as our personalities. But we rarely present the hidden facets of our crystals to the light. Each human being has the same potentials for behavior as each other one. It is all there in each one of us. Everything! We are all REALLY one. Each life that has ever been lived belongs to ALL of us. We have all been EVERYWHERE, EVERYTIME. Your past life is also mine. Mine is yours. We have the same facets-- it is all a matter of which facets we choose to receive the light. Drama is a safe way to explore all the facets that we do not show to the light in ourselves--but that exist in us, nevertheless. Drama is the way we live out those "otherselves" with no threat of karmic consequences: it is all in that "pretend realm" where we can reap the benefits of experiencing other people's lives without actually impacting them. When I was a child, I wanted to be everything when I grew up. I could visualize myself completely in many different "jobs", many different lives. I could have gone so many different ways with my life, many I feel could have been "right" for me in certain circumstances. I can fit anywhere. I can find the part of me that responds to any different situation or template in which I find myself. I have everything, every life, every thought process exists within me. You are all me, and I am all you. I have played YOU, in plays and Dreams and other venues--this is the way I connect. Connection is the key. You are the key to my secrets, and I to yours. People we have never met are playing out the intricacies of our lives in reality and pretend --every day. "Drama Therapy" is one way we connect. Go see a play! Connect with someone whose life you live on some level--Discovery is where you find it! It is everywhere, and everything is connected--even those things that Don't appear to be. We're all here, after all, and here is where it's at! A site to check out for all those Dolphins among us: Angels of the sea: I hear this site is run by a 9yr.old who KNOWS. Sweetness and light; Bingo
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#67652 - 05/01/00 12:01 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Dear White Feather,  As usual I thouroughly enjoyed your stories. Now I know how you made that stone wall you spoke of in the White Feather thread when you told us about your name. I am so glad you are here. You got it! The stones, as in any other part of nature have to fit together by vibration. Just like people! If the vibes don't work, things fall apart. All types of structures, whether it is a pyramid, a house, a marriage, friendship or a group - they all need harmonious vibrations. Now I know you have already learned that, but I am speaking of the time that you experienced that moment in time. There is one other subject I would like to touch on. Although I had seen those Oversoul books and so on years ago, I never picked them up. It apparently wasn't the time. Now, I would like to mention that the other day as I ws browsing around the internet, right after I found some strange material about Mt. Shasta, I ran across a Ralph Waldo Emerson site with his Essays 1. The entire text, all niney-nine pages, is on this site. So I skimmed through it, speed reading, and saw that he was talking about everything we are, including the oversoul! That blew me away. I have known about him forever, it seems, from playing Authors as a child, but I have never read anything of his. Guess what, only two months ago, I was offered a first edition of this very work in a leather binding over the internet from a friend who was selling it. I guess I am supposed to read it. LOL It is true that everything has a time or season. And NOW seems to be a good time for a lot of new/old knowledge, doesn't it? White Feather, I love that you share your books like this. I enjoyed working in a bookstore so much, because I knew the customers would benefit immensely from what they were buying. We never really possess anything anyway and allowing others to enjoy what we have enjoyed is really special. I love it when my grandson borrows my books, as he likes them so much. And then we can discuss them later. With Great Affection for AllONE - Asamee, Dolphin2 
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#67653 - 05/01/00 12:05 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
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Dear White Feather; You have always been a "Lego" kind of guy--the way the pieces fit together is one of your specialties--that's why you're here. Thanks for helping to fit the pieces together. WOW. Bingo
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#67654 - 05/01/00 01:15 AM
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After that first "trip" to Mayaland, I made several more. It always happened while I was working with stones. That is how I connected. I never knew when it would happen, and it always seemed to happen out of the blue. I caught quite a few glimpses of that ancient civilization. They were all from the perspective of a laborer. I was talented with what I did, but I was dirt poor. I was "trapped" in my situation just like all the other workers. We didn't have chains on our ankles, but we had them on our souls. I had glimpses of that past life in which I was having glimpses of another previous past life before that, one in which another pyramid was being built, but I was one of the overseers. Even in the Mayaland, I had realized that I had done the stone work before. Karma had put me on both ends of pyramid building. In the Mayaland I was disgusted with my co-workers because they didn't put their souls into the work, and I was disgusted with the overseers because of the way they treated fellow humans. The only thing that kept me going was the pryamid itself. I knew that was my mission; to help build the pyramid. No one else I knew in that life seemed to have a mission. Well, actually, I did know a few men who had missions, but they were related to sports not spirit. The overseers always halted all work when it was time for the sports games. (They knew how to control people!) The ball games were big, bigger than just about anything, including the pyramid. Sports was dangled in front of every worker as an opportunity to get out of work. And it was the only way out. Become a ball star and you didn't have to haul stones anymore. Only the very best athletes had the courage to stand up to the overseers. It was the only chance for any of the common workers to advance above their lot. (Because of my Maya experiences I am convinced that baseball derived from Mayan sport. And quite possibly, Mayan sport derived from some Atlantean sport. I've had Mayan flashbacks from two things: stone work and baseball.) Because of my Mayan experiences I gained a whole new respect for stone masonry. My work in New Mexico was enhanced greatly by the Mayan flashbacks. While I was building a wall or something, I began thinking what some archaeologist would think as he or she uncovered my work a thousand years from now. I realized that stone work was a way I could actually connect with both the past and the future. But the best part of it was connecting to the present--working with the stones themselves. I am here to tell everyone that stones have their own consciousness! To connect with that consciousness is to connect with Mother Earth herself. Before I was a stone mason I never would have thought to touch a stone to "feel" it. Now, I cannot hold a rock without "feeling it". It never occurred to me in this life to be a stone mason, but having it thrust upon me helped me to connect with those "other selves". What were those pyramid builders of the past doing, if not trying to connect with their other selves? It is all perspective, no? If we try to build a pyramid, and we work on it from every angle imaginable, we will not only get the pyramid built, but we just might figure out why the hell we're building it. Building with stone is a metaphor for what it is that we are all doing. We are materializing our essences, and we are trying to make it last forever. Sedimentary and igneous, White Feather P.S. I would also like to add that at the height of the Mayan Civilization the climate in the Yucatan and Central America was rather different than it is now. Back then, they had more of a Mediteranean climate, much like Southern California. It was in the later years of the civilization that the weather started becoming tropical. Those pyramid builders didn't know that their work would be swallowed up by jungle.
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#67655 - 05/01/00 11:54 AM
Re: Re-Membering Ancient Worlds
[Re: White Feather]
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WOW ! Bingo Pajamas ! White Feather , Donna ,Mermaid, Dale Louise , Spot , my cup runneth over ! ( Now where is that SeaJ ..? and where is Crystyllyne ..? hehe) White Feather , I am flabbergasted. astounded even ... hehehe You always have the most stunning , informative messages , but of course you know this one is overwhelming for me. YES , I want the book/ trilogy . I want yours ... the one with the White Feather vibes..... hehehe (shhhhh.... guru ) This is all getting even more exciting than I envisioned when Dale Louise mentioned opening this thread. I can't wait to get to it each day! I like the term Visionary Fiction. I am extremely flattered that you ,White Feather , say I have gifted you with inspiration. I think YOU are doing so for ALL of us. I think all of you are so very inspirational. This tale is unfolding as so many smaller tales that , yes.. Bingo Pajamas ... intersect and create one massive spiritual wholeness ! There IS nothing like drama / the theatre . It can do magnificent things to / for the soul both from in front of the curtain / screen , etc and from behind the scenes. Spot was doing something inside the pyramids; White Feather was outside creating the pyramid, but they were working ( perhaps together) to create .....something vitally important. Maybe one day we will know for sure exactly what that was / is. This is a disjointed message , which really isn't that strange for me hehehe, but today life is blooming with excess activity. hehehehe Peggy.. I enjoy these postings so very much that I do spend a lot of time laughing AND learning which is a superb combination.
I am most pleased that everyone is speaking up. I shall read and re-read this thread. The connectedness that Bingo Pajamas speaks of is worth knowing and pursuing ,and what better place Asamee / AllOne to remember and revitalize it than here.? Hmmm. since I am you , and you are me, I can't say I love all of you , can I ..? ha ha hahaha BLOOM With Generosity And Goodwill, Wildflowers
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