Hi Knowflakes,

I am reading Gooberz at the moment - it is just marvellous. But I am a little confused about the meaning of "twin self" and "twin soul". I think in Star Signs the guru tells Linda, that there is a difference between the two terms and that Robert Brewer will be her twin self, but not her twin soul. Does anyone know what the two terms exactly mean?

Bright Blessings

Morgana

Keep reading... all will be revield! It doesn't get there untill the last quarter of the book - and it still leaves me a little bit confused to be honest. It's a wonderful book.

LoL

Lis

I only wish I wouldn't spend so much time at work - I am reading so slowly at the moment, and I am so curious to know more about Linda. On the other hand I am sure I will be really sad when I am through with Gooberz.

The most Wonderful thing about gooberz is that you can read it, and read it and read it again, and every time you find something new and exciting. When i first got it I took it with me to work to read through lunch - The Tube (underground trains) are very dirty here - so it probably didn't do the book any good - it's begining to look well loved.

Take care for now

Lis

Hi Morgana

I believe we have many soul mates but only one twin soul. The soul mates are the people we have spent past lives in close, intimate relationships with that we 'recognise'. The twin self is the one who is the other half of our soul. We do not always recognise them. Only when we are truly evolved are we able to experience a true reunion with them which lasts our whole lives and overcomes all things.

Hi Everyone,

Mermaid I agree about what you said on soulmates.
Now twin self - If we don't 'recognise' them, will they us. Is it "not" on both sides?
Assuming the soul's know where to be to meet, how do we meet?
And are we alike (trined, sextiled, cj) or diferent (sq, opposed?)
Is it a difficult relationship (at least at first) or is like "BONG" Well there you are! Where in the blases have you been and what took you so long!!! Seeems like there would be such a emotional release. (couldn't help but be upset for awhile.) Thohts like that. What do guys think?

Darwin

Excellent post Mermaid!! ..Dar..I wonder that same thing, and hopefully, I'll answer that one in a few months.(I think!).lol...

Au Ha! A2, I knew you up to something!
Months? You're the fourth ppl to to tease me with a secert. I wanta know now!

Darwin

P. S. I have secert too. And I'm not telling anyone ever! OK, OK, I give!
I have a left nibblette. Do you think I was supposed to be my twin self and we got mixed up at birth, meraged, and now we don't know who we are? OK, spill the beans, babe!

twin selves or energy relations? i don't know, i mean if we are all from One source, aren't we all one energy form, but in many manifestations? however there are always certain souls one vibrates closer to, perhaps certain stages of evolution one attracts or repels certain people towards one self. i believe in a deep twin soul who is the perfect balance of me, perhaps it is me, upside down, insider out or in ultraviolet shades...birth mix up, or death do us part? proxy?

hi Proxy! ..not a secret..I will tell you soon as I "know".. its a long story and the "veil" may be a part of it LOL@ you again!!

I hope its ok to post this but a show on today on KOMO TV called Northwest Afternoon (Darwin,you should get this in your area!) about TWIN SOULS.

June 23, 2000 - TOGETHER AGAIN
Today on NWA professional psychic medium and clairvoyant
Dennis Jackson will use his gift as a medium to tell audience
members about their love lives, relationships, money, career, and
other messages brought to him from the other side. Joining Dennis
will be his twin soul, Alice Best. Together, they will share their story
of being reunited. Do you have a twin soul? Join us to hear about
the connection of twin souls - told by twin souls.

Aries, Mermaid,& Proxy ,

Wow, a lot of familiar faces/names on this thread...seems like old times!

Aries, that show sounds great, I wish I got it out my way...you'll have to fill me/us (as I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to know!?) in on what they have to say!!

I bet I know who you're talking about Aries...someone in PA? How are those aspects panning out? You'll have to let me know!

Anyone out there find they're twin soul yet? I'm sure we'd all love to hear about it...so, do tell!!!

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Love and Light,
Kelly

I hate to repeat myself, but, I've talked before about the fact that I spent some time with my Twin Soul, a long, long, time ago. We, both, were instantly attracted to each other. Matter of fact, both tried to walk away because the strong attraction was purely frightening. It was overwhelming. It seems that neither one of us wanted to loose self-control and risk what ever the fates had in store for us. When something is truly meant to be, it just happens. It was a magical relationship that changed both of us for a while. He was the other half of me and we complimented and completed each other. It was also a psychic union. Some of the strangest things happened in that area. Such as the night he was looking for me and couldn't find me. I suddenly got this powerful urge to run out into the street and holler for him. If I had acted on it, he was so close, he would have heard me. This when he was supposed to be in a different city. Our love created an aura about us that even strangers were attracted to. The stranger at the office we went to refused to noterize my signature on the divorce papers because "We belonged together." Alas, we were meant to meet, and we were also meant to go our separate ways. I have come to believe that we had both chosen to take care of a lot of karma this time around with other people and had to do it separately. It is inevitable that we will meet again and hopefully, we will have evolved enough as individuals to make a go of it the next time. In the mean time, I have recently met another man. I believe that the soul can (as Linda says) switch bodies with another willing soul, and I have often wondered if that would be how we would meet again. I don't think this is the case here. I spent the morning comparing his chart to mine and the connections are there in spades. It looks like we did indeed know each other in a past life. Right now I am inclined to think that we are Soul Mates of some kind. He acted like he knew me the moment we met. He is a friend of my sister's and she tells me that it is very unusual for him to be instantly attracted to someone. This could turn out to be a very interesting chapter in my life story. It is such an impossible situation that it may come to nothing, but I have that "feeling" that it won't be that simple. Good grief, Charlie Brown; he lives in Chicago and I live in Kentucky. And....he doesn't even like to talk on the phone. What a romance this is turning out to be! When I first met him on a visit back in December, I was attracted but didn't take it seriously. He was my date New Years Eve and I enjoyed myself immensly, but thought that was the end of it. When he heard that I was coming up for a visit this month he broke up with his girlfriend. They had an off again, on again relationship for quite some time. My sister told me that he was obsessed with me and the things she was telling me kind of frightened me. I've had some pretty bad experiences with men and to me the word "obsession" has a very negative effect. I wasn't sure I wanted to see him after all. To make a long story short; I did see him and came back to Kentucky with a smile on my face. Some how the music is sweeter and I miss him terribly. I actually wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep for thinking about him. He may not be my Twin Soul. In fact we are opposites. I've heard how opposites can attract, but this is my first experience with that. It just doesn't seem to matter that he is a Republican and I am a Democrat. The moral of this story is that he doesn't have to be your Twin Soul for you to get a silly grin on your face and enjoy some one special walking into your life. Maybe he is just a Soul Mate that dropped by for a while to remind me that my heart isn't in a permanent coma. It wouldn't be the first time another soul has crossed my path to help me along the way. I'll just have to flow with the river and see where it takes me. For the moment, I am busy enjoying the smile on my face. It's been a long time since I felt this good.

Expect a Miracle and allow it to happen.

Freebird

Freebird,

what a perfectly fantasic post. Big hug for being lonesome now though. If it's ment to be it will happen.

I loved your tale of your twin, and how sad to part company. I met a man a couple of years agao who frightened me because the attraction was SO strong. We didn't hook up in the end - me being to much of a scardie cat, but we work in the same industry and I know people he knows, so you can never tell whats around the next corner....!

I miss him a lot - which is daft because we were never together - but I don't care, I just think he's fab.

Lots of love

Lis

Freebird,

What a great story! I'm curious as to what aspects you shared with your ex...for research purposes, and were they in close orbs?

I too have a friend, who was my only temptation during my 10 year marriage...but I didn't give into it. He always used to tease me & said if you ever get divorced give me a call....so when my husband left, I called him! We went out when he was home for christmas that year & there is definately chemistry, but he was quite respectful of me...espically considering the circumstances. He lives out of state now, but is home a lot to see his parents. Now that I'm free, he's got a girlfriend of several years, but being the Sag has a bit of a thing about being tied down as he hasn't committed yet. He's always asking about my love life & we're supposed to go out in a couple of weeks when he's home...so we'll see what happens!? He's often in my thoughts & has been very much so lately...that's why I'm quite anxious to see him again!!! There are many good aspects between us, including Ven trine Pl, & he's at my Decendant by orb.

Thanks for sharing

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Love and Light,
Kelly

Dear Sweet Lis. Thank you for the nicest hug. I'm not feeling lonesome at the moment, but I will save it in my treasure chest in case I need it. I talked to him last night. Still got a wicked smile on my face. We had the best talk we have had so far. Both of us were worried that we may have left ourselves up to being misunderstood. He really didn't want to leave so early the last night that I was there and hoped I didn't take it wrong. I understood, but it sure was nice of him to tell me how much he wanted to stay. For the moment, I don't have to have him in the same County to feel so loved and wanted. It is right there in his voice.

Interesting that you should ask, Virgo Gemini rising, about the aspects. They facinate me, that's for sure. I never had the time of birth for my ex, so there is a lot missing, but there is one very strong aspect between our charts. It's my Mars conjunct his Venus. He was every thing I was looking for in a man and I was every thing he was looking for in a woman. The fact that he is an Aquarius and I am a Libra rising, with three planets in Gemini, added to a lot in common. Oh yeah, Mars, my ruling planet is in Aquarius. I wonder if the chart can really tell you if it is your Twin Soul. When he puts a smile on your face that touches people around you, that's your Twin Soul. You got me to thinking on this one. I don't have Johnny's time of birth yet. He promised to get it for me even if he says he doesn't believe in astrology. But even with out that, I know that his North Node is conjunct my Sun. His Venus conjunct my Jupiter. Saturn is activated too, but not in a difficult way. It sure looks like we have known each other in a past life. It surprised me when I found out he was a Cancer. He doesn't act like one. I figured he was more a Gemini. Sure enough, he has several planets in Gemini. That includes the Moon and I sure want his time of birth for that one. I have a Venus conjunct Uranus there that has at times brought me some rather pleasant surprises. It helps that they trine my Neptune in Libra. And get this.....his Jupiter in Aquarius fills out this trine to the exact degree. I do believe we were meant to meet. I use more than astrology for this revelation. I found something very interesting in his chart. More than one aspect says that he has had psychic experiences. Wonder if he will ever admit it. He does not come off as the mystical type. Who knows? He may have a bit to learn.

Shame on you, Lis, for acting like a scardie cat. But, per haps the moment wasn't right yet. You will know when it is. I swear that these things happen exactly when they are meant to be. And, it is Magic. Of the best kind. That goes for you too, VG. Good Luck with your Sag. I don't want to worry you, but my second ex was a Sag. with a wandering eye, but he had a lot of difficult aspects in his chart. I've sworn off of Sags myself. Those born in December need not apply for a position in my love life. I preferr air signs any way. They can say the most interesting things.

I gotta run. My dinner is getting cold and I'm missing a good movie.

Wishing you all the Magic you can handle.

Freebird

Hi everybody,

thank you for all those wonderful stories about twin souls, soulmates and lovers.

Do you think, that a twin soul is always of the opposite sex or is someone you might fall in love with? Couldn't it be that your twin soul in this life is e.g. your child, your mother or your brother? Or a very good friend?

I am not sure if I met my twin soul in this life. I didn't really have supernatural experiences, but I did experience the feeling that I somehow knew someone who had just been introduced to me. For example I have a penmate in Russia - my russian is quite bad and I knew him only for one evening, but we just HAD to stay in contact, although it is very difficult.

And when I fell in love with my boyfriend, I suddenly had a feeling as if I knew him for years and years. His face, his eyes looked so familiar, it was really frightening. I am sure that we know each other from past lives and that we decided to meet in this life. I always fell in love with Aquarius-men, mostly they had something to do with laws. I never knew why, but now I think I was looking for him.

We met very early in our lives, quite too early, so we were just acquainted for a couple of years before we started a relationship. As if our higher Selves knew when the time was right. There was always a deep attraction, and I think the only reason that we didn't come together earlier is that we were living in different parts of the country and did not meet very often. Then one day he moved closer and - BANG! I hope he is my twin soul, it would be great to stay together through the incarnations. I just can't imagine a world without him anymore.

Love and Light

Morgana

Kelly, I think I like this man for you. I'll observe form the sidelines and see if he makes you twinkle in the next few months. If nothing else he has given you a perfect distraction to think about over difficult times. The last post of yours seemed to indicate that he was curious.

Freebird, you truly are such an enlightened soul. You light up the shadows of my ignorance. I have missed you while you've been away making rainbows.

Your chap sounds delightful, isn't it amazing what a phone call can achieve. I'm interested to hear what psychic ability he hides, perhaps he does not call it that - perhaps something gentler like dreams, which he may not peg out into that basket. It's lovely that he'll let you in on his birth data even though he doesn't believe. I'm glad you're not lonesome, long distances can be tough, I'm more than sure it will be worth it.

I do know what you mean about putting a smile on your face, and I guess in your heart. Laugher can be so refreshing and heart lifting. I'm very interested in love aspects, I'm not at all astrologically knowledgeable, beyond the very bare bones. So I do get lost sometimes, quite easily actually.

My scary cat man and I have Venus conjunct Pluto and a sextile (if I'm right our Pluto's are in Virgo his Venus in Virgo and mine is in Scorp) hence the amazingly powerful nature of the attraction.

We have a whole bunch of other stuff and a few really nasty ones. My moon squares his Saturn, his mercury tines my Saturn. All that said, my Mars conjuncts his Pluto....the kiss of death, probably, although I'd hate a relationship that's all hearts and flowers - it wouldn't feel real? I still pine to and extent though - it's very weird as I've not had such a powerful attraction, and with having so much Scorp in my chart - it's not something that would normally put me off. Mmmmm, you never know, he might return to me at some point.

Anyway's long enough me thinks,

Kelly - I'll cross my fingers and toes for you, Freebird, it's lovely to see you back with a grin on your face.

Lots of love

Lis

Hi,
Here I didn't say about the wierd experience to do with this man. I've not told anyone else but I guess if I wisper no one but us can hear - can they?

I was in a pub with this guy and a few others from work, (I used to work with him - about a year ago) and one of the girl had bought a babt grow for a freind, but when I looked up I got this ....em.... vision of him bouncing a baby up and down, he looked so happy - it was all over in a blink. Now what does that mean? As i say NOTHING happend with him - except a few sparks and intense looks (he's got as much Scorp as me I think). So I've never figured out what that was all about.....possibly never will.

sorry 2 posts in a row, but your the first people I've told that too.

Lots of love

Lis

Lis,

Thanks for your wishful thoughts on my Saggie friend...I definately think the attraction is the Ven tri Pl by 2 degrees & we also have Sun opp Mn, Sun tri Ven, Sun tri Ur, Mn tri Mars, Ven sx Mars & sq Mars, along with Ven cj Jup,& sx Nep. We have some not so good one's too...Asc sq Sat, Sun sq Mer both ways, Mn opp Mer, Mn sq Pl, and Mer sq Pl & opp Sat. Quite a mixed bag....huh? I'll be curious to see what happens when he's back in town, I can't wait to ask about the girlfriend!?

I think with your situation, your vision was of your future with him holding your child! I definately think something is going to happen with that man when the time is right!!!

Freebird,

Thanks for sharing your aspects...it helps for research purposes!!! Sounds like you've got a good one going on there! How lucky for you to find more than one soulmate in a life (of the romantic sort)...I sure hope a good one comes my way soon!?! I should try an air sign since I have a Gem Asc & Moon, I don't know why, but I never seem to end up with one?! My first love was a Libra, he was a cheat & my first heartbreak...maybe that's why!

Talk to you ladies soon, I'll keep you updated on my Saggie friend.

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Love and Light,
Kelly

Kelly,

I have hopes for this man of yours - there seems to be a connection there that goes deep. I'll watch and wait and see what happend when you visit together? I'll have a peak at the aspects you've mentioned. I'm not up on these things - but a girl can learn or at least do soem home work, but i've got to go out - so it will need to be a big bit later.

As for my vision, who know, jury is still very out on that. It would be good if we were even talking in a casual way - unlikely with our suns. So unless somethign magical changes it might be a long time comming. Patience is not my thing.

Much love in the mean time

Lis

Morgana,

Sorry I misseed you out
em i'm no expert, but my understanding and there will be other points of veiw shared as well, there is also several other threads on this topic that are well worth a look including on in Ask the Astro..., That a twin Soul can be either sex to the person but the twin self is the opposit.

I'm thinking aloud now "Now if that's the case, what to homosexuals do?".

The thing about it is only you will know for sure, there ar a few asto indicators meantjioned in relationship signs, but when push comes to shove, it's your hear that you follow.

Much love and sorry for not replying earlier.

Lis

What interesting thoughts are flying around on this thread! Sorry I didn't get back to you all last night. Would you believe I spent the entire evening writing a letter to this enchanting new man in my life only to wake up this morning with the strongest feeling that I had said to much, to soon and I never sent it? It was fun writing it though. It was the first love letter I had written since I used to write to my Twin Soul. That was funny. He was in the Navy at the time and when they used to get "Mail Call" on the ship, he said that other sailors wouldn't read thier own letters until he had read my letter and read them the parts that were "not to personal." Can you believe he read them the part about how I had heard that because of an automobile accident he had before I met him, it was possible that he couldn't have children and that was ok with me, we would just raise dogs? Don't ask me why they all thought that was so funny. I have learned over the years to listen to my instincts and when I woke up with such a strong feeling this morning, I took the letter out of the envelope and wrote a short note to send with the picture my daughter took of him and me together that I had promised to send him.

How's this for synchronicity? Here I am talking about him and my sister interupts with a phone call to tell me that she saw him last night and he was telling everybody about how I had called him for his birthday and now all of his friends know that he is crazy about me. Good Grief, Charlie Brown, I am enjoying this! My daughter got on the phone and told her that it is like living with a bloomin teenager. Guess she'll just have to learn to go with the flow.

You brought up some interesting thoughts. Have you read the things that White Feather has to say here in Linda Land, Morgana? I read everything I can find that he posts. He is such an interesting man. He has talked about how he met his wife and it is so refreashing to hear a man talk about his woman with nothing but Love for her. More than that. He admires her, and you can tell he has a lot of respect for her and her talents. I never said anything, but until recently, I was kind of jealous of them. No, "jealous" is a bit to strong of a word. It did make me yearn for something similar. Any way, he says that his daughter is his Twin Soul. Kind of proves my point. I'm sure your Twin Soul can be a parent, a child, a sibling; any number of possibilities. And at the same time, there are other very specaial people in your life, such as Soul Mates who paths parallel yours for a while (long time or short) and bring you joy. I am a most fortunate woman, VG. It may have been such an awful long time since I met more than one Soul Mate, but there have been others besides the latest. If Herb hadn't crossed my path back in Seattle when I was going through my first divorce from my Twin Soul, I never would have made it. He was there to help me and, where ever he may be, I still Love him for it. There are some very special souls wandering around on Mother Earth and it has been my pleasure to meet quite a few of them.

I had to laugh, Lis, when I read your question about what do homosexuals do. Honey, they do the same thing a hetro does. They search for their Twins. Settle for less at times, mostly because they are lonly and a Twin can be so hard to find. They make the same mistakes and they keep on searching just like every body else. Some of them find the one they are looking for and live happily ever after although, in their case, they also have to deal with a society that doesn't understand a homosexual relationship. I figure that takes a lot of inner strength. I might also mention before I have to go eat my dinner that is getting cold again, that when I read what you said about seeing this vision of this fellow bouncing a baby, I got the strong feeling that you picked up on a picture of the past. Wether you two are meant to be together in this life or not is up to your Higher Selves, but you once were, and that memory came flooding back to you. He was very special to you before and the feelings were so strong, they remain. It is up to you and your Higher Self to decide what to do about it. I wish you Wisdom.

I gotta go, my friends. Blessed Be and don't forget the Magic.

Freebird

Hi Freebird,

I might go in search of White Feather's posts as well. sounds interesting. Your letter sounded lovely. It's so nice to get so rapped up in your thoughts that tat you loose yourself in communicating the heart of the man you love. It made me laugh that you choose not to send it and wrote another one. I've never done that before - Only kidding.

As for homosexual twinself, yes that feels right, TS is not necessarily of the opposite sex, just the one that you are into. It makes sense. I feel a little bit envious of the life style in a weird kinda way. It always seems so full of life, so vibrant, but there is an edge of pain around it. One of the chaps I used to work with, and socialise with, a charming and warm guy who was full of life and love, we once had a conversation where he became lost in his own thoughts and said ...sorry I can't remembers. Basically he was angry with himself for be a sad queen, it pained me a lot because he really was a wonderful person. He had found his partner (10 years they had been together) an was very happy, although at one point he was thinking of having and affair, but didn't - thank goodness, his boyfriend was lovely as well but in a different way, more gentle and stronger.

Freebird, I liked you thoughts on the baby vision, that make more sense to me. It was the sheer joy on his face that made is such a strong happening, it was over in a trice but I feel privileged to have seen it. Perhaps I need to learn to fear less, but the vibes are a little scary. One of these day's ..... .

Thank you for sharing your wisdom, most insightful, I might go and wish upon a star, and see what magic can be conjured up.

Love

Lis

Hi Knowflakes
I went out with someone for two years who I had karmic ties with, although there was no Venus/Pluto activity (except squared, I think). He was the first person of the opposite sex who I immediately felt at ease with as soon as I met him, I felt I could be myself and express myself freely (his DOB is 1oth June 1977 at 4:10pm in Geneva). In the latter months of our relationship, I was having doubts; first of all it was the Venus/Pluto thing, but then it was because I felt although we had harmony, we didn't have enough in common and we had completely different aspirations in life, came from completely different backgrounds; I always felt maturer than him and I've always been attracted to mature men. The physical side of our relationship lacked heat as well as true fusion; it did not elavate my soul, but I brushed this aside for some time as I had not known much success with this in this lifetime; I only knew somehow that it could be so much more.....Then finally came the friction with our viewpoints; I found his so flat and surgical and trying to discuss things was like a tiring "circumlocution"!

I put these feelings off until I could no longer take it. We decided (instigated by him, probably due to some insecurity which he hid well) to have an "open relationship" (if any of you know what I am referring to). Finally, I kissed someone who I'd always been attracted to, who I'd met just before I got with the other person, but written him off because I felt he wasn't interested, and now I know the time wasn't right because I, and perhaps him too, had lessons to learn and ways to evolve which would make us more compatible. I managed to put him right out of my mind, and in my relationship with the Gemini we were both loyal and true to each other. But then, when I kissed this man after agreeing on an "open relationship", I found I could not get him out of my mind and I could not surpress the truth (of our relationship problems) any longer. The break-up must have been so sudden and shocking to him, it had a delayed effect. I tryed not to hurt him, but hurt him more in the end. I denyed it to myself, because I did not understand. What hurt him was the turth, and lies wouldn't have helped. I kept the fact I was seeing this person after we broke up from him for a while, and then when I told him, he didn't even want to be friends any more, because he was so sickened with grief. I feel bad and regretful, but at the same time my new partner has made me very happy and awakened parts of me I never knew could be. I feel as though there is an ESP bond between us sometimes, and when we make love I feel we are truely blending and fusing. I don't know if it was in my mind, but when I compared our charts, it was like one was left and the other was right, with similar planets all in earth signs and so on. My Neptune is conjunct his sun, and although our natal charts appear to make us platonic, my progressed Venus is exactly conjunct his progressed Mars, which are both moving backwards together. There are also a number of ties with Saturn. (My DOB is 25th May 1980 at 11:35pm in Bristol, England, and his is 11th December 1960 at 6:30am in Tripolis, Libya). We do have Mars square Pluto, but he's never wanted to live with a partner anyway, and we both like to give, understand and avoid unpleasantness. I know that what we have is special, and we can feed into each other and give each other what we need in more ways than one. I am in love with the very energy his spirit is made of; it is like poetry to me, music, mystery, runnaway black-beauty accross a beach. His mind, body and soul all seem to compliment my own creativity and all enchant me because they are different to my own and yet similar in the right ways; as though our nature was created for our perfect blend. The nature of our spirits and souls.
With my ex, it was different to this; we could understand our wavelengths, but our spirit-natures were completely different and did not compliment each other. In the end, I felt liberated because in subtle ways I'd been drawn into not being myself while we were together.
It's stange the way things happen, the sequence of events all seemed to be knotted together in a freakish way. Before I fell for my Sagittarian well and truely, I did not intend on falling for anyone, not until I met my real Twin Self! But Mr Sagittarius seemed to be imprinted within my consciousness and subconsciousness, and it was telling me that I just needed to be a part of him and have a part of him, I needed to be in his life; I wanted him.....somehow his prescence in the world makes it a much more beautiful one! These feelings seem to be way beyond my control.
However, I don't like to contemplate that we may not last forever because he may not be my Twin Self. My inner yearning wants more than that; I've dreamt of finding my Twin Self since I was chronologically 9 years old. Perhaps I know too much for my own good sometimes, although maybe it's had it's positive effects at the same time.

LOve

Hi Em,

Lovely post, where does a lass form Bristol meet men form such far flung places? You made me smile. If you've had pastlife connections, I wonder how the different countries fair in your story. Were you perhaps well travelled in another life...I wonder?

Ending a relationship is extremely difficult which ever side you're on, I think your wise to be totally honest it is much less hurtful in the long run. I think where people have had the depth of love that you two shared - it's difficult to part friends, it's much easier to stay friends with partners when there is no emotions left. Twit, I've had few friends of the back of relationships, partly due to geography and partly due to emotion.

The whole Venus Pluto thing is interesting as well. I know that there are suppose to be some drawbacks - but I can't find them in relationship signs. If anyone can help - chime in, what issues does one have to watch out for?

As for the twin, I think I've been looking/aware for a long time too. Although most psychics have told me I wont meet mine until "about now". Not much hope 15 years ago, te he. I've also got a knowing thing about my twin, but it's not pleasant - so I wont share.

Your post is insightful, Love

L
PS Kelly - I must take a peak at your aspect - from an iterest point of view.

PPS Morgana - how are you doing with Gooberz?

What a busy day this has been. We lost our electricity early this morning. It happpens every now and then out here in the country. To occupy my time, I went outside to read the directions for the other half of the play set my daughter and I are putting together for the kids and didn't make it back in the house until dinner time. The swings are officially up and the kids love it. I got so busy, I forgot to act like a love sick teenager most of the day. It helps that I didn't listen to the radio today and didn't hear "This Must Be Love" by Alan Jackson once today. Did I tell you that is my new song?

Tinkerbell.....I hope you do read the things White Feather has posted. I know you will find him facinating. He is such a Loving Soul and has quite a way with words. I find him inspiring. He has written a book or two, but never been published. If he ever does, I would be proud to be one of his first buyers.

Don't you feel awful sad about that fellow who was angry at himself for being a "queen?" We all have trouble accepting ourselves just as we are, warts and all. No one will ever convince me that a man like this one would choose arbitrairly to be an effeminent man. He simply is who he is and in a different society, he would be allowed to celebrate that fact. I am thinking of the Ancient American Indian and how they were so much more accepting of their differences. Every one had a special place in their society, including homosexuals. I've often wondered how I would handle it if I were born so different from the so called "norm." It is hard enough being who I am. Right after I got back from Chicago, I wound up in front of the mirror searching my own reflection, trying to see what on Earth Johnny sees in me. Decided that it's a good thing beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. My sister was really thrown by his attraction to me. She calls it obsession. It frightened her. She tells me that in all the years she has known him, he has never acted like this. He was more like a love em and leave em kind of guy. She asked him just what he saw in me. He told her that he never met a woman he could talk to and enjoy as much as me. He also likes my laughter almost as much as I like his. There was this one strange moment when I was with him this last time. We were talking and laughing and he went to make that "Soul" contact with the eyes. I'm sure you know what I am talking about. It's when some one looks into your eyes and is looking beyond them, straight into your Soul. I broke it off immediately. Would not allow it! Where do I get off calling any one else a scardie cat? I think I would have been more at ease with a gun-man. Go ahead, pull a gun on me, just don't look into my Soul. I'm sure it was just to much, to fast. I wasn't ready for that. But, I'm looking forward to the next time. Two can play that game. Maybe by then I'll be ready to exchange "Soul" information.

Been there, done that, Em. The truth. It can be so awful painful at times. When you are involved with some one who loves you more than you love them and you know you would only be cheating them if you didn't tell them the truth. It can hurt you almost as much as the other person, yet how cruel it would be to lie to them. We can't help how we feel. Either it's there, or it's not. You both probably learned something from the experience. Maybe some day he will find his Soul Mate or Twin and understand why you had to go your separate ways. You were a part of his evolutionairy process on his way to the woman he truely belongs with. And he will enjoy her company as much as you enjoy your little Sag. I wish him God's speed. Him and the ones I have known that I couldn't be what they needed.

Well, I'm off to watch a movie. Wishing you all farie kisses and star dust in your eyes.

Freebird

Lis,

What aspect/aspects do you want to look at? What I posted? Or do you want dates or something to have a look yourself? I don't mind at all.

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Love and Light,
Kelly

Freebird, = lovely, I'll have another read later and post properly back to you. Welldone with the swing. How great.

Kelly I had a wee look at the onse that you've posted. My knowledge is very em er limited. To put it another way, when I see the word node, i think of an elevation in the skin .

Good stuff and bad stuff there. I can understand the attracton though the good is Good. I'll watch for here and see how it all pans out, just please do share - because that would be lovely.

Must fly and catch up..

Love....

Lis

Long post, sorry

Freebird, Morgana,

It's funny you saying you had a power cut, when I went to make coffee reading your post I noticed that the microwave clock had reset itself, which means I also had a power cut through the night. But I don't live in the country at all .

I used to swing for hours when I was little. I'm sure it took loads of work to get it up, sounded a major job. They will appreciate it.

Alan Jackson, sorry I don't think I've heard of him, Might if I heard, but I'm not massively up on the latest music and we get very different music over here anyway, I'm sure it's lovely.

I read a few of White feathers post, - had difficulty searching, but I found them under feather. My word did they give goose pimples or what. Very spiritual person. I read one about him becoming a mum, which was awesome and how he got his name as well, I'll plough through a few more when I have the chance.

My friend who angry with himself for being gay. He touched me deeply at the time. It was very sad that there was still a desire to be so "called normal" at the back of his wonderful relationship, he's a lovely guy full of life. I'm with you as far as not knowing how it would feel to have to live a life that is so different.

There has been an undercurrent in many posts I've been reading this week regarding accepting ourselves ~ warts and all. The grass always seems so much greener on the other side of the fence. I always see my own short falling with far less forgiving than other people see them, thank goodness. And blessed is the person who doesn't see them at all . It's interesting that forgiving ourSelves is so difficult. And on a similar but different note...

[Mogana, sorry this is not directly relevant to twin souls but I'm now going to take a wee stop off on route 66 so to speak.]

To give a few background bits and pieces, ANY insight would be valuable.

I have a bunch of friends that I have been close to for many years, almost half my life now. They live in Scotland and I'm down here in London, but we are all very close. And as a group we've grown, and stretched and changed. I don't get them to see them much now, but it's like putting on an old pair of jeans when I go home, they fit perfectly. There are about 5 of us - with various partners who have joined on (there was about 15 in the beginning - but life drifts people in different directions). Now I'll get to the point.

One of the chaps, is very gentle, charming, and witty man. Who I might add gives the best massages I've ever had . He's always had a weird family situation, which he chooses not to discuss with any off us. He's always had a certain restraint about talking about some of the close things in his life. He met this lovely girl, who he's very happy with and is still very happy with her even now. She fits him like a glove, and so be it, they are a seriously lovely human beings.

Any way, last autumn, I called up one of my other friends and asked what's news and scandal, like I always do. And he told me that this chap had decided that he was a transsexual. Well after I'd stopped laughing (the chap wasn't there) because that was my initial reaction, my word how ridiculous it was. We had a serious talk about it. Now the chap will always be the chap regardless of what he chooses to do, and I will still love him to bits (his light will always be "his" light .

But it does raise some pretty strange questions for me. I didn't really believe it to being with, the transsexuals that I've met, which is a massive amount, are London based, "scene types" - who are a little bit on the messed up side. But my friend is most certainly not. He's a lovely person, who is loving and caring and just special to me, so hence the reason I was a bit reluctant to actually place him in this particular "box".

Went to a wedding up there last month and had the chance to speak with him properly. His family are not coping too well, which is not that surprising, so I told him that he was still the same person to me and that the packaging counted for little, and I still love him just as much.

Now with all this going on, the girlfriend is still there, loving him unconditionally, I said she was lovely. She's with me on it's the person inside that she love not the outside bits. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL UNCONDITIONAL! She's going to wait and see how it all pegs out, so she's not going to fly the coop at the moment.

Now to the bit I struggle with, one of my other friends, a guy who this chap has a less than honeyed relationship. A little bit of friction though the years, but still friend. Coped less well, but really well for him, it's not that he's not tolerant, he's just a bit less open minded than the rest of us. He struggles to an extent. He would welcome the chap into his house, he's totally fine with that on a one to one. But he has children, and he doesn't want she (when he decides to become a her) in the house, because kids know him as he and he doesn't want to expose his children to that type of discussion. They are 4-7 type of ages - I don't know exactly.

An I think in my head, I accept this, but I'm not too sure how I'll fair when I meet "her", I guess cross that bridge when I get there. But I know I don't have children as yet, but would I want to expose them to that type of confusion? I don't know. He's a big chap - 6 foot 2, and not slightly built. I did forget to tell him, that although he's a good-looking boy, he's sure going to make and ugly girl. Please trust me to know - he'd think that was a scream .

I don't think I've got any questions per sey, but insight would help. Should children be "protected" from confusion, my gut feel is that on this particular occasion yes, because they know him as him, and love him as him, and then to introduce her into the equation it's difficult. I think I wouldn't. But then I look at my children of Christmas future and thing, they would meet her, no matter how grim she looks . I'd not want them to miss out one someone who is so beautiful and lovely. But by then she'll have done her thing and changed.

Anyway, way off the thread there Morgana - but it is on it in a loose roundabout type of way. Feeling like I do need to share that I've got lots of friends who fall into the "so called" normal box as well.

Apologies for the length of this baby as well, perhaps I needed to share to clarify my own thoughts a little. And any of you chaps out there - I hope your not offended, it's ok to feel a bit uncomfortable about someone having their tackle chopped off. It's not for everyone that type of thing.

If you wrap with a Scorp - you'll have some strange conversation.

Freebird, beauty comes from within . And from what I can see, you'd give the super models a run for their money. And you were telling me not to be a scardy cat . It's a powerful thing to gaze into someone soul. Very much like the chap I was telling about in my earlier post. He could soul suck at 100 meters - I kid you not, scorpio gaze and all that, and I'm one myself, but man was it deep, very deep. Very scary in a way, and not a little bit unsexy either. Tell your daugheter not to fret about this guy reaction. She knows if really that he is ok, but he's just so overwhelemed by you, and that form where I sit is a good thing and well deserved. Isn't it great to see the sparkle of love. Your posts brighten up my day no end.

Do the soul contact when you are ready to share that much, some thigs are more sacred.

Much love, and well done for readint o here.

Love ahuggles and sparkly thing,

Lis

Hi lovely people!
Hey- guess what? My lover, my centuar (or "little sag", though he aint little!) also had a power cut the other day, and guess what his name is? It's also Johnny!

Tinkerbell, maybe I did travel a lot in past lives, who knows. I do feel I've lived in places far different to England, that's for sure. I think the fact my lover and my ex both have travelling parents may either be down to coincidence, or maybe it made them broadminded which contributed to the attraction.
I haven't travelled a lot in this life, but I've always felt an overwhelming ache to travel. It makes me feel a lot healthier when I do because I feel it's what I need mentally. Has anybody read Sasha Fenton's Moon Signs? I feel it's very accurate and I do recommend it. According to my Moon and her house, religion and travel are top pursuits in this life. It's funny how everything seems to fall into synchronicity because my karmic numbers are 20 and 25, my 12th house Neptune is also retrograde.

By the way, does anyone think it's interesting that mine and my lover's chart have similarities such as: Moon and Pluto both in same sign in our own charts (his Virgo, mine Libra), I recall reading in Linda's writings that the sign that follows the other can learn from the other, and get on well with that sign. Similarily, I have several planets in Virgo. My rising sign is Capricorn, and he has several planets (similar ones) in Capricorn. We have the same planets in retrograde, except I have Venus whereas he has Mars; I also have Neptune to add to the list wheras he doesn't. But he has his Moon in tenth house, which would give him his own share of difficulty, similarily, because I read in Sasha Fenton's book it indicates an "arid childhood" which seems to fall into place accurately. Also, our Mercury is in the same sign as our sun. Apparently, these aren't close enough to be opposites, neither is my Cancer close enough to his Pluto to be sextile, or my Venus to be conjunct to his Mars (if someone had only read "Relationship Signs", it would appear these were aspects because it does not mention degrees). But I feel our so-called "negative aspects" are in such a dosage that amount up to make them wonderfully "energising". I feel that if I was with someone where all the aspects were too easy, it would hinder growth/creativity, and these, I believe, are the purpose of both life and relationships! Challenges are evolving influences, and fun! For example, I've been told that we have aspects challenging our communications, but if this is so, I say I love it; it makes him more mysterious!
Both "Gooberz" and my past relationship helped me evolve; finally all the "demons" that were in me before (like insecurity, fear, paranoia) have been defeated, because now I know how. Whenever I'm not sure of something, I quit the circumlocution of words and the mind's matrix; instead I return to my heart and my intuition. It helps that above all, I have the knowledge imprinted within me that LOve rules all; that includes lOving myself; and so with LOve as the ultimate, it has ultimately defeated fear.
It seems uncanny too, that in my last relationship I battled with the entirity of my insecurities and paranoia, even though they were uncalled for. Likewise, my lover's ex put him through harsh "karmic soul-testing" with her insecurities which were even fiercer than mine. If I had got with him in the beginning, when I first met him, I know now that we wouldn't have got on well; I have grown in ways now which have made us fit together the way we do. Still, it was quite an experience, because he evoked something quite flammable inside me back then, and I actually had to spend a day of analysing my thoughts, channelling them, and then doing my own spell to get him out of my mind. It worked.....for the Time. Still, it didn't totally eradicate the magnetism which, I may add, was there even before our progressed Venus/Mars came into the close conjunction. It was this year, finally, when I had found myself and evolved from the wisdom of "Gooberz", that my subconscious spoke out to me and told me what I was feeling inside; the "needing" I mentioned before which was felt through some other sense beyond rationalisation. I feared before it was infatuation fueled by lust, but my instincts have proven to make SENSE.

Anyway, that's enough rambling from me for now. Apparently, my Moon in Libra with Sun in Gemini makes me "fun, flirtatious, diplomatic but inclined to be long-winded!"
Wouldn't diet be responsible for the latter?

LOve

P.S. Could anybody tell me about North Node aspects in relation to relationship charts, because I know nothing about them?

I popped in for a few minutes while I'm waiting for my daughter to take the kids to the dentist. We got us a new auto last week. New to us any way. It's a 1994 white Ford Ranger (Pick-up truck) The car I was driving was about to fall apart any way before I got hit by a drunk driver Memorial Day. No one was hurt, but it just about did in that poor car. We were pretty philosophical about the car and the fact that this guy didn't have any insurance and ours doesn't cover this, but I've become an eagle-eyed, defensive driver now that I have this pretty truck. Good thing too. A Semi pulled right in front of me a couple of days ago and it was a real close call. I didn't intend to post anything, but I got such a giggle thinking about this fellow who would make such an awful looking woman. My daughter and I had a talk about what you said about the confusion it could cause a child to come face to face with a sex change. We are both open minded people, but wonder if that wouldn't be to much of a challenge for a small child. Children do need to learn to accept people for who they are, but there is such a thing as presenting them with information that is to much for them to handle.

You sure have missed something if you don't know who Alan Jackson is. Honey, he not only has some real good songs, he is mighty fine to look at. He lives not far from where I do and I know this woman who saw him in a local store and she still hasn't recovered. She says that nothing that good looking should be allowed on the streets. One look at him and then you go home to your husband and learn to accept his flaws all over again. Here are my favorite words from the song; "It must be love, it must be love. I fall like a sparrow and fly like a dove. You must be the dream I've been dreaming of. Oh what a feeling! It must be love." I even dream about that song. It was playing in my head when I woke up this morning.

I'm so glad you went looking for White Feather and found him. He certainly has a lot to contibute here in Linda Land. You might want to see if you can find the threads about Asame. There are some very facinating posts on those threads from several people. Ooops! I do believe I spell that wrong. I'll go look for the threads and be right back.

I might not be the best of spellers, but I usually do know when I've done it wrong. It is Asamee. There are several of them and all interesting.

Thank you for the compliment. That was so sweet of you. Fortunately, I have no intention of competing with any models. I do have every intention of simply enjoying who I am.

Well, the garage is now mine to use. Time to go wash and wax the truck.

LOve and Laughter to all!

Freebird

Freebird,

A sparkle new truck - very nice and exciting, bet you just want to wash it and wax it and keep the new sparkilness of it. Glad to hear that no one was hurt in the accident. Pretty scary though. Do you miss the old one?

I'll give Asamee a look for later. Loved the other ones I read, he seems inspiring.

As for Alan Jackson, well I might try and give him a go if I get the chance. And fine looking as well you say. Isn't life unkind looks and talent - bagh.

I hear you about my friend. I find it a tough call. I'm right behind the parent one, because - hey kids really don't need that. But by the time I have kids they will never know him as a him (that if he goes the full monty - he's not even sure he will). I guess it's one of these wait and sees. I might have a total U turn at the appropriate point in time. Wouldn't expose kids to something I feel is unsuitable. Not easy. Glad it's not me that's living that amount of confusion, would make life a nightmare.

I'll just ponder on my Angel and smile away at being stupid enough to kept a hold at the time. - if it's meant to happen it will = else wise, I'll just wait for the next bus. As my mother always says - never run of a man nor a bus, there is always a better one behind....

Thank your daughter for listening to the weird woes. I didn't think I'd have friend who were as diverse as they are, but I'll stick by them cos they are lovely.

Em,

Woosh, some of that went straight over my head, your on advanced statistics and I'm still trying to learn my one times tables :

I think you must have (travelled far and wide), because Bristol is not the obvious place to meet such an interesting range of men, although it is a port - isn't it?

I think travel might do you some good - am I right that you've had some down time? Did you read the thing about energy in star chat - it's really interesting. I'm none too keen on travel but I know it's great for my energy, and I get to loose weight as well - COOOOOOOL! I just don't enjoy it through. I'd love to go to Egypt though.

Sorry I'm going to say I've not read that book, - that's two in a row, no Alan either - my word what have I been missing out on. D:

I get on well with Librans (although talk around here - everyone else does as well), but less so with Saggies - have had a few very close sagi friends - but it's not so in a close way? Well that has the clarity of mud. We have lots of contact but it's not deep. (I'm a Scorp if I've not said before)

AS for planetary relationships, I think I read on one of the other thread it's better to do it with synistry - now to be perfectly honest - I don't know what synistry is so I can't help you there, I was to to ask . thought it would be rude after a while. No doubt I'll pick it up somehow.

Now by using synistry - you'll have less relationships but they will present the aspects more truly. ) I'm probably spelling the word all wrong as well).

Aries, if you're around or perhaps Freebird knows??????

I do think that everyone has more self-doubts (paranoia fears etc), and your right to ignore them and get on living. I think the key is to take the first step - the rest will follow . Be brave, because you KNOW you can be. Do try and do some travelling as well - you'll enjoy it (hopefully far better than I do).. You are so right and so Wise to listen to your heart.

Anyway - 2 long posts in a day, I'll get a bad reputation .

Love to you both.

I'll go and have a read of the other thread - asamee - wonder what that is all about. I'd also like to get a handle on why I get goose pimples. Interesting.
Huggles as well.

Have a good day.

Lis

Hi girls,

sorry for posting just sporadic, but I am so busy at the moment and first had to read through all your elaborations...

I don't think the rain will stop this weekend, so I'm going to have lots of time - just to stay in bed and read Gooberz. I'm really looking foward to it. My soulmate or whatever he is has to learn and will not disturb me...

Staring into ones soul - I think that's what happened in the beginning of our relationship, when he suddenly looked so familiar to me and I went scared and had to look away. I am such a coward, I'm sure I don't have those esp-feelings because I am too frightened to be aware of them.

By the way I'm a quite scepitcal virgo, but on the other hand so interested in everything supernatural, and yes, I believe in all this stuff, perhaps it's my scorpio rising, I always have to fight with myself - like two souls living in one breast, you know?

I read somewhere a long time ago, that two souls can decide to stay together through the incarnations. Do you think this is possible? But what about the twin soul then?

The story about this transsexual guy really touches me - and that his girlfriend stays with him. Although it is difficult to understand that he loves girls but wants to be one himself. I have a friend whose girl-friend split and lives together with a guy who always wears womens' clothes. I wouldn't say he is a real transvestite, because there is nothing glamorous about him, he just wears skirts and dresses. This friend of mine has a little son who lives part-time with him and his new wive, but most of the time with the ex-girl-friend and the not-real-transvestite. I don't think the boy is very happy, but I don't know if it has to do with the new lover of his mom wearing dresses or with his having four parents instead of two. But I think it is difficult for him to find his own identity. On the other hand children sometimes understand much more than adults do, because they haven't got these strict opinions about everything - it is easier for them to accept something new.

What does the venus-pluto-aspect indicate? My boy-friend and I have an opposition, I think. I really have to learn more about astrology, it's such an exciting topic!

Love and Light to all of you

Morgana

Moragna - your posts are always delightful, so pleaze don't apploigies.
Now there's the sound of luxury, in bed with gooberz. No doubt - the question at the beginning will rear it's head - and you'll get a degree of resolution. Aires was saying that she had some further thoughts - but that was on a different thread. I wish you luck in finding the peace you see to read!!

Soul gazing - is definitely a little bit scary like you said, I'm with Freebird there. For some reason if feels very different than just recognition,......I can quite articulate, I do apologise. Deeper I guess is as close as I can for now. Now if I've learned from this thread is that perhaps one should attempt to over come your fears - least you end up with the same situation I've been in.

I'm with you on the inner turmoil thing, (I've a lot of Scopr 2) - I rarely feel totally at peace within myself. Not the most pleasant of experiences, but I've learn to live with .

I would think that there are a lot of people around the forum that are living walking breathing examples of living twin souls, together, in harmony. So yes "I" thinking it's possible, but the important thing is what YOU think. Tune into yourSelf and know form within.

Yea the transsexual guy's girlfriend, not sure I could do that - perhaps i'm not that unconditional . But there again if you'd ask me if any of my closes personal friends would be a transsexual last year, I'd have said no way. I guess we deal with what life gives us in the issues around us, in our own individual way?

I'm not sure all transvestites are all together glamorous . I thin you're explaining my own question wihtout realising it. Do you open your kids up to the broader brush strokes? No I guess not. It must be so difficult for those children. I'm so lucky not to have to deal with that amount of inner turmoil.

You're Venus Pluto aspect, is a friction one, from my understanding. Pluto demands and Venus gets a little squished, space, readjustment and secrets are issues as well. Have you read relationship signs - there is more in there - explained better than I will ever be able too.

I'm with you on learning a bit more about astrology, although I don't want to learn so much that when I get out of bed in the morning the first thing I do is look at the stars. Great tool but not a bridal. Does that sound like a contradiction?

Enough already. Always nice to chat.

Love and hugs

Lis

hi tinker! ..its called a synastry(synastries)..and you really must get some Alan Jackson music! ...try his "greatest hits"("aint no cure for the summertime blues"..and "Way down yonder on the Chatahoochie,it gets hotter than a hoochie koochie"!!)....as far as twin souls..no one really knows the aspects buts theres a LOT of ideas out there which are interesting..and theres a chance there may not be such a thing as true aspects..it may be deeper than astrology goes.(still researching but a hard thing to do when theres not a lot of true twinsouls out there.).Im now a firm believer you must be spiritually "ascended" to be blessed with meeting one.
The venus/pluto aspects are for karmic "love" from what I know and Morgana..if its a venus/pluto opposition its apparently in need of karmic balancing in this life.Keep in mind there has to be Saturn aspects as well. Venus/Pluto on its own means nothing.( I have a 6 degree Venus in Pisces and everyone born within a few years "orb" to me has the opposite Pluto)..hope this makes sense!

You have an excellent point, Aries! How many times do you meet two people that you just know are Twin Souls? I have a feeling that you wouldn't find it in their charts any way. I really do believe this is one time that the two people involved are tuned into something beyond the mundane. This may take a while, but I suddenly feel compelled to see if I can find out the birth information on my Aunt and Uncle. I'm surprised that I have never tried to do that before. I've never met a couple so perfect for each other and so beautiful together. If they aren't Twin Souls, there is no such thing. Uncle Bob died a couple of years ago and I just know he hated leaving Aunt Betty all alone. She may have two wonderful sons, but Uncle Bob is the Light in her eyes. He would walk into the room and she would light up like a Christmas tree. I'll let you know if I can get the information.

Your post got me to wondering if we have ever posted to each other before. I don't think so. I know I have read your posts on other threads, but stayed quietly in the back ground. We do have things in common and I quite often understand exactly what you are talking about. We both have the Sun in Aries so I'm sure that is where it comes from. Am I correct in my assumption that you have Aquarius Rising? That is where my Mars is. I don't know about you, but that influence makes people think I'm kind of strange at times and I don't mind that one bit. Maybe one of the reasons I haven't posted to you has to do with my past history with other Aries women. You could say I am a bit gun shy with Aries women. The ones I have come close to I have liked, but, there always came a point when there was an explosion. I've come to think that there is just to much Fire there. Now I am wondering if it is just me, or if you find the same is true for you.

My Dear Tinkerbell. My daughter is quite used to lisening to weird woes. She has me for a mother and it goes with the territory. My sister was married to a cross dresser for a while. I recently found out about that. I don't think that was why she divorced him. It was a lot more complicated than that, but it sure didn't help when he kept wanting to wear her clothes. She says he kept streatching them out.

I was going to write more, but have been interupted time and again and I give up. Time to go find something to eat and dissuss travel plans. Think I'll go visit my son in Arkansas for a couple of days next week.

Walk in Sunshine, my friends.

Freebird

hi Freebird!..I would very much like to see the birth info of your aunt and uncle..ongoing study I am doing!
and yes..although I am an Aries..I have moon and mars conjunct in Aqua..possible Scorpio rising..all that Aqua makes one more a fighter for the "cause" than anything on a personal level ..and you're right..I dont get along with all Aries woman..its something to do with their "tactics" at times!..of course depending on the rest of the chart!
Freebird..wheres your moon and venus?

HI FireBird and Aries,

Firebird, I read a post by your borderCat. You should be very proud. Very deep and straight woman. And she writes better than you. hehe You can tell her I like Saturn's Moon's too, you know, when there nothing else left in the world to talk about.

Aries, now we know why she's called FireBird.
I thoht Aqua Mars was standard equipment.
We've all been upgraded at no additional change.
My daughter has Aqua Moon and Mars. When we talk, up until about 2 years ago when we figured it out,
we would start talking at the same time, catch ourselves, then stop at the same time. It took three or four start and stops to finish a thoht. So now we both still start at the same time, but the one who talked last, stops. It's that funny expression on the face to see who goes first. hehe
So far, I would say that she is my twin, at least a twin shadow.

Hey, A2. What do you guys do for the 4th up there? I was going to say Happy 4th, but ....
Happy Fish and Chips?

Darwin

goodevening Proxy!..the 4th is an 'Merkin holiday..Canadians celebrate the 1st of July tho..(canada day)I think its also "tax free" day..the day we start making money for ourselves..half of everything we make goes to the government ya know...sheesh! oh..and its also my (Cancer sun,cancer moon,virgo rising daughters 19th birthday on Sunday!!..a big day here )..LOL@fish and chips!

Good morning to you all,

Hi Morgan - I new Aries could explain better than me. . Enjoy your lie in and read

Areis I'm with you on the - it may all be in the stras but it does go deeper- thing. I'm used to quite deep relationships, but the guy mentioned above ws just a little bit more "soulful than that" . Not much will make me run.

Mucis - I'll see if I can get a chance to listen to an even broader range. (my tastes vary form Opera - Jaz, R&B, elevator,some rock(but not much), pop and the list goes on.....

Firebird, posts are a charming as ever, glad your daugheter is not too weired out, I know discussions about sexual variety are not everyones cup of er tea. Thank her for me. Interesting about the guy your sister was married too, I guess a bt of role reversal with the clothes, how many women out there are being told not to wear partners jumers least they streach the frounts . I grew up with boys and used to pinch their jumpers etc and caught the flack for it.

Anyway - I'll keep this short, because I think we've had enough long ones for a while

Love to all.

Lis

How nice of you all to get my mind off the fact that I am waiting for a telephone call from this silly Soul Mate in Chicago. I haven't done this since I was a teenager. My little borderCat just wandered by and read what I was writing and she seems to think it is very funny that I am reverting to my childhood. I guess that's what I get for laughing at her when she was a teenager. I assure you that I am very proud of her. I'm so glad that you like my Soul Mate of another kind. She is such a good friend of mine. I wouldn't trade her for a box of rocks. She wants me to let you know that she is litter box trained. She is one intellegent little puddy cat.

Aries......I am so relieved to hear that I am not alone when it comes to other Aries women. It has bothered me off and on over the years. I do believe that we are all a mixture of the male/female polarity. With a Libra rising....that fact seems rather obvious to me. There are times that I can come on a bit to strong myself, but I have known Aries women who appear more masculine than the average man. There is one Aries woman that I am related to that I refuse to have any thing to do with because she always has to have to have some one she is angry with and fighting with. I did her chart and found that she had Mercury and Mars in Aries. Way to much Fire for me! We got into a "difference of opinion" one time and one time only. No one got seriously burned and I had the good sense to not tempt the Fates again. Ooops! I take that back. It wasn't that simple. I walked away, but every now and then she would decide to get me all fired up again. Like the time she was saying terrible, untrue things about my son. If you want to tie into my Aries temper, try hurting one of my children. It's kind of funny now. Here is was I in all kinds of pain with a broken rib, and I went to go after her. As I was running out the door, I grabbed my son's pool stick and I had every intention of attacking her shiney black truck that she was so proud of, and if she got in the way.....so be it. Fortunately for all of us, borderCat was there and she talked some sense into me and saved the day. She sure saved me some nasty karma that time. If it weren't for her, I'd be worried that someone would come along and attack my shiney new white truck that I am so proud of today. And yet, borderCat has a BEST friend who is another Aries female. Neither of us has done her chart, but she is one of the nicest women you would ever want to meet. They have been friends since middle school and have always been there for each other. Yet, neither of us would like to see her angry. We intuitively know that it wouldn't be a pretty sight.

As for my Moon and Venus. When I first started studying astrology, I was rather upset when I found that my Moon was in Virgo. I had always thought of Virgo as picky, picky. I didn't think that discribed me at all. I had a lot to learn. I might mention that borderCat has her Sun in Virgo and that is part of the ease of our relationship, the conjunct has a two degree orb. At times, I am more Virgo than she is. I am the one who can't stand a messy house. I am the one who figures every thing has it's place and that's where it belongs. My poor Moon squares my Venus in Gemini (another 2 degree orb) Yet, I wouldn't have it any other way. A chart without some tension here and there, would be boring. (Enters Mars in Aq. that can't stand to be bored.) That's what I like about astrology. It points out how multi-dementional we all are.

On that note, I believe I will close for now and find something else to distract me from thinking about the phone call I am dying to receive. I might try sending him some compelling urges to pick up the phone and dial my number. Till the next time......

Walk in Sunshine.

Freebird

Freebird, I can't believe I called you Fire bird earlier - sincer applogies. ARG - I new I was going to do it eventually, I actually went back and checked as well - now I've caught Merc - in my reading as WELL roll on the 17th.

I'm in the middle of "kids" the film - it's not good but I don't want to miss the end - it would be like not finishing a book.

I think I've another 20 minute or so to hang on - so I'll do 2 things at once.

I hope the call from your twin is worth the wait, I'm sure it will be.

Take care for now

Lis

Well... the sun DID unexpectantly shine, so I just couldn't stay in bed and read the whole weekend. I am still at Canto Sixteen...
And a friend of mine gave birth to a little son on saturday, we visited them the next morning, he is such a sweet little boy! With his Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars and Mercury in Cancer - isn't that strange? I wonder what he will be like. And everybody thought he would be a girl - there was nothing to see on the ultrasonic...

Aries, thanks for the infos. Yes, we have Saturn-aspects, too, it is quite strange, because we get along with each other so well, but my Saturn opposes his Mars, and his Saturn opposes my Venus. I will have to read relationship signs - when I'm through with Gooberz and the 1.000 other books on my list...

But, tinkerbell, you are right, it would be a bit exaggerated, to plan each day according to the stars - no, I just would like to understand more about the people around me and my relationships to them. E.g. there is this strange attraction Aquarians have on me, although we shouldn't get along too well with each other according to what is said about our sunsings. And in my relationships with Aquarians it was mostly me who was the crazy one and them who were the pragmatist - as it is now with my boy-friend. He studied Laws and makes an additional qualifications as a tax consultant now - me, I studied Philosophy and Literature and am working in a chaotic startup-company, doing marketing. I am the one who is interested in all kinds of esoteric stuff - in the beginning I didn't even dare to tell him much about it, in the meantime he got used to it and thinks it is quite interesting, but wouldn't really get into it himself. He really is my rock to rest on in troubled waters, and I am the one who makes his life more colourful, I think. But shouldn't it be the other way around, just according to our sun-signs?

The funny thing is: when I am together with more or less conservative people everybody thinks I'm quite strange, but I have many extravagant friends who are sure I am living a totally normal and neat little live. So for THEM I am a typical Virgo, but when I see the mess on my desk and all my futile trials to bring more order into my live, I don't think I am. That means the peculiarity of typical sunsign-traits depends on the relationships one has with other people, doesn't it?

Oh well, now I digressed a little. Hope this made sense to someone.

Love

Morgana

My Dear Sweet Tinkerbell, don't worry about calling me Firebird. You aren't the first one to do that. Matter of fact, I'm begining to think I have out grown Freebird and Firebird just may apply better. Maybe it has something to do with the 90 degree weather we are having. Feel like I am on Fire most of the time. And then there is this burning Fire in my Soul. The last two times I e-mailed my best friend, I signed it Firebird and am waiting to see how long it will take her to notice the change.

Interesting Post, Morgana. I read somewhere a long time ago that a person with Mars in Aquarius, like me, tends to attract "strange
" people. It is very true for me. Perhaps this Sun in Aquarius does something similar. Instead of being "unusual" he attracts the unusual and that's how he keeps true to his sign. There are all kinds of ways to do it, especially for an Aquarian.

I'm still waiting on that phone call from Mr. Wonderful. It's a good thing this poor little Aries has learned patience over the years. I have a feeling I will need it with this one. It goes to prove one of my favorite sayings. All men are trouble, some of them are worth it. I don't mean that to sound anti-man. It applies to women too when it comes to relationships. I'm sure he will have moments of wondering about me, but hopefully, he too will think I'm worth it. I only hope he finds his time of birth by the time he calls like he said he would. Sure would like to know what his rising sign is.

Well, I gotta get busy and figure out what I am going to pack for my little trip to Arkansas. My daughter left today and took her father's ashes with her. I guess she and my son will have scattered them by the time I get there. I think it is so appropriate that they intend to do that on the 4th of July. "Let Freedom Ring."

May a gentle breeze lift your spirit.

Firebird

Tinkerbell,
Just for the record- I was born in Bristol, but I've never lived there! I grew up in an INCREDIBLY small town in the south of Gloucestershire, left home at 17 and now I live in Cheltenham.

LOve

Hello everyone,

I hope you don't mind me joining in your discussion. I have wondered about the Twin Soul/Twin Self difference. It's described somewhat in a book Finding Your Soul Mate by Michael. According to his definition, we have more than one soul mate. So, I think that falls in line with the Twin Soul idea. But there is only one other Twin Self. I hope I haven't confused things. I did follow the steps outlined in the book and I did find someone! I don't have birth data on him, but I know that he's a Capricorn w/ a Pisces moon. I'm a Scorpio with an Aries moon. Although that story didn't end the way I wanted. Perhaps the story hasn't ended yet? I don't know and I'm still dealing with the hurt.

On a happier note, someone asked if we knew any twin soul/twin self couples. Yes, I do. I'm proud to report that my parents are in fact soul mates and twin souls! They are an excellent model for any relationship and I am extremely blessed to be their child! Their beautiful Cancer-Cancer relationship is 28 years strong. They are so committed and devoted to each other and definitely know all about unconditional love. Sometimes it's been hard for me to watch, my parents being all lovey-dovey, thinking to that I'll never have for myself. But in retrospect, I realize that I should have just been happy for them instead of feeling sorry for myself. That's how I look at it these days.

Well, that's all I have to contribute right now. I hope you all find answers to your questions. Light and Love. and Luck in Love!

Paloma

Hello all - I'm a bit of a dazed little faerie today, it was so quiet earlier I the week and now everyone's posted twice as much and I'm running to try and catch up. There are so many new faces around. Quite a few people have come back home from being away for a while from the feel of it. It's nice to see the place a buss!

Morgana, your mail made perfect sense, I'm so glad the sun came out - Gooberz is great it's worth persevering with. It took me ages to get through specific bits of it but other passages I literally flew through. Very much a tears on one page - cracking up on the next.

I'm, please to hear about your friends wee boy - sweet. But very definitely a cancer then . An impressive and possibly a difficult choice for him? I laughed when you said everyone thought he'd be a girl, I had the same problem in reverse, I was going to be called Robin, I'm quite glad I'm a girl.

I liked that you don't fit the usual stereo typical sign behaviour - personally I have numerous friends in fire - but I'm not really supposed to. I guess I prefer relationships that are not as easy as they could be - I bet I'd get really bored if I was surrounded by loads of water people. Yes I know that would make life a lot easier but far less fun and less rewarding.

I find it hilarious that we feel we should keep quiet about being interested in esoteric subjects. It's not like it bad or anything but still the need to close the closet door behind you on the journey.

Freebird, tied to the phone like an expectant father again????? Oh I don't have the patience, I hate waiting around for calls - but I know me well enough to know I always do torturous. Hope he calls soon.

I loved your men saying - and yes it applies both ways. My mum always got great sayings as well. I guess it comes with the job?

Paloma
Your very welcome to join in and join the club, very pleased to meet you. Now twin souls are multiple (in my understanding of it), however how many twin souls you have can differ depending on who you are speaking with. Traditional 14 sections of the Orsis Isis split apart thing, but many people ahv a different take on it. That said the general feeling is that you have one twin self, who you'll know when you meet them. There are astrological indicators, but they will only indicate past life connections it's up to you re how strongly you feel, I think - listen to your own self is the only way to be totally sure.

Interesting combination Scorp Aries, you must have the most ausome energy? Do you surfer from inner turmoil with that combination? It's very interesting. Please come by and tell us more about yourself!!!!

Anyway ladies better buzz off and do some more catching up. I've been off shopping today for my trip to the US next week - I've not even started to get ready yet and I need to have my next months life sorted out before I go - yikes!!!!!!

Love to all )

Lis

Hey Tink,

I believe in faeries ,so you're safe!! Yes, I do have inner turmoil. I've never attributed that to a Scorp/Aries combination. I didn't know about that until fairly recently.

I guess going through 3 majors in college demonstrates some innner turmoil!! Right now I'm just enjoying the summer--although all seasons in New Orleans are good!

You really should come here Tink, it's the greatest city in the world. Of course I'm totally biased. Well, that's all I have to say for now.

Paloma

Just thought I'd drop in with my latest hint of wisdom. Never wait by the telephone for a phone call from a man. They can't help it. It's an invention they don't completely understand. Or, is it that they just don't understand how much it would mean to a woman? It would be nice, but I am so busy right now that I don't have time to wait by the phone. I sure hope it isn't over already. Got the strongest gut feeling that it isn't. I will see him again and enjoy the pleasure of his company. Maybe I'll blame it on a Mercury retrograde period. That silly planet has been messing with us again. What a time to buy a new/used truck!

Keep the Sunny Side up.

Freebird

Hi Paloma, Freebird and Morgana, and anyone else I've inadvertently missed,

I couldn't say if it's supposed to give you inner turmoil or not, I'm not that much in the know. It's just a conflicting mix of elements, I was just interested to see how that affected you in any other way.

New Orleans, oh you lucky thing - I guess I'll get there at some stage. On my list of places that I'd like to go to. Egypt, Peru, South Thailand (just for the beaches mind you), New Orleans, New York (because it's there), perhaps Washington, Cripple Creek, Perhaps bit's of Italy, Paris (but definitely in love), Barcelona (for the architecture), Vietnam (because it look beautiful). Think that's it, none of these destinations are particularly packaged holidays - but one of these days I might.

If your into powerful, crazy attractions - try the Manon Lescaut book, By Abbe Prevost. Heart breaking - but beautiful. I saw it as a ballet and cried the dancing was fantastic (I don't normally cry at ballets, but this one was so good). Enough girlieness.

I'll make it some day I think. I hope that you enjoy your summer months and do some decent relaxation. Seeing as you've been working so hard at collage.

Freeebird,
I know, I know. I always end up doing that though. Dating is different over here - I wouldn't wait for a casual call (that would be daft). But I do phone watch from time to time. I'll go to the bottom of the class and take my dunce cap with me.

As for your big love, over ?!?!?!?!- NO WAY, given what your daughter said, I don't think so. He's mad about you (just in case that doesn't travel - in a good way). He'll get his act together soon, I'm sure. We're out of this Mercury goo in a week or so, hopefully the sun will be shining by then. I'll be in the US by then as well ARG !!!!!!! . Hope it all goes well.

Is the truck not going well? It's only new, have I missed something above I better go back and check hmmmmm. Isn't it amazing that there are loads of people around who I've not seen before that have suddenly returned home? I wonder what's going to happen...? Maybe something exciting?

Anyway - this isn't getting me together for the day, so I better run.

Love to you all,

Lis

Top of the mornin' to you all. Got the day off today and can't think of a better way to start it than a visit to Linda Land. Besides, I got to tell some body what I did last night. I got tired of waiting for that phone call and called him. That is a pretty big deal for me. Got to thinking about it after we hung up. With my Aries Sun, at one time I found it quite comfortable to be assertive. If I were at a dance and saw some guy who was a good dancer, I had no qualms at asking him to dance. But, it got conditioned out of me. My assertivness got misinterpreted and I reverted to my Libra Rising and it worked quite well. But, not with this one. It doesn't help that I have not had a lot of experience with the sign of Cancer. I got Linda's Relationship book out today and it's right there. The Cancer man is unusual in the way he likes the assertive Aries. I thought it was just "talk" when he said that he liked liberated women. How many men have I heard say that, but, it was part of the chatter to impress? It is begining to feel like we were fated to meet and learn from each other. There is a phenomena that I have experienced before with peole I was close to that has been showing up in this relationship. Have you ever met some one who's life, for a while, runs in a strange parallel to yours? Some times, it's plain silly. Like when I was talking to him, I told him about the tire blowing out when I was driving the truck. It kind of blew him away, because at about the same time, he had a blow out on the way to work. Both of them, the rear, right tire. Like he said, how many times do you hear of some one having a blow out like that and here we had one at the same time? Remember how I said I had written to him and then decided not to send it? He had done the same thing. I haven't told him about my unsent letters yet, but I will. Maybe I'll send a letter after all. If nothing else, I'm learning how silly my insecurities are, and so is he. Yep, yep. It looks like we have a lot to learn from each other. We are planing to get together, but both of us are caught up in our jobs for the summer. We are hoping that as soon as things ease up a bit, we can both get away together for a little while. Sure sounds good to me.

Well, my friends, it is time to boogy. Or is it time to pull some weeds? One of the two.

Expect a Miracle

Freebird

Freebird,
That's fantastic!!!!

I@m really pleased you called him. Well tell all! Was he ok with you etc???

I know what you mean about the lifes in parallel thig but I've not really had that experience as yet. THe relationship book is great. I'm not 100% sure that it really highlights the important bonds. You end up with loads of aspects.

If you ask Dave to run one of those synistry (and I still can't spell it) charts you'll see the important bonds hit you right in the face.

Sorry I learned a lot from that last week . Thankfully! But that is a thread that is better left at the bottom of the page, if on the page at all.

I'm happy that you've spoken together, I really am.

Sorry for short and sweet I'm being distracted by so much at the moment.

Much love to you and happiness for you

Lis

Hello to all,

Now I'm not sure why I've not shared this before, or even if this post is appropriate here or in the religion question - it's just too difficult to tell which category it truly belongs.

In the days before I first arrived at LL, I was rereading Gooberz for the second time. I consider it to be a secret treasure. I'd not read it since I first read it a few years ago, but was in the mood, having just bought relationship signs.

Many issues were in my mind at the time. My dad dies 4 years ago and his anniversary is loosely around that time so he was in my thoughts. I sometimes chat to him in prayer, but not VERY often. I'd checked out Angel in relationship signs and the bond was very strong. So that was in my thoughts (even though I hadn't seen him in over a year). Fatima was also in my thought - probably because of Gooberz I would have no other reason for that.

Now I'm not big on the institution of religion. Which has been my personal informed choice. But I do occasionally like to go to church, we're not talking even once a year, it's far less infrequent than that. Christmas mass is nice, but I used to love Easter vigils as a kid.

I got this weird notion - more or less out the blue, that I wanted to go to got to the stations of the cross service on good Friday. I wanted it to be the Latin version, but the church I wanted to go too had a different service in English so I though I'd go anyway.

The church I wanted to go to was over the road from where I used to work (with Angel). So I toddle along, I had worked myself into a bit of a tiss about going to mass. I have no idea why - it just felt really important to do it this day. I nearly chickened out a couple of times.

We'll I arrive at the church with about 30 mins to spare, so I get a coffee from the shop over the road and sit down to drink it before going into church, I was thinking about my dad. Just after I sit down a van pulls up, right in front of the coffee shop. On the side of the van was Angels surname plastered in forest green letters.

I then went to church - but it felt no way special, I've only been to church a handful of times south of the border and it lacked the passion of services you got at home. Much more tame. So I came away feeling that I'd missed something?

Now I don't know what that was all about, or how it ties into me coming to LL I found the site that day I think, or why it happened, or how it all inter linked, or even if it is important at all. But I thought I'd share it anyway. Why at this time, I don't know. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Much love

Lis

Dear Tink,

I think it's a wonderful story. The more attuned we become, the more sychronistic (sp?) incidents occur. Attuned to what? to whom? to when? I don't know. But I know that it happens. Within the year, I've dreamt more things that have happened than in the whole of my life (and I've always dreamt things before they happened). And I know that I'm more attuned now than ever and become even more so with each day. Perhaps the same thing is happening to you. So, I think that perhaps, here in LindaLand we are converging together not only as people who are interested/curious/skeptical/ardent believers/and doubting thomases because it is part of the process of becoming more attuned and refining that attunement in this type of environment.

That's just my theory and some of James Redfield's too!

Paloma

P.S. Freebird, I'm glad you called your guy! Sounds like you're definitely experiencing sychronicity too!

Paloma,

Thank you for your lovely words, I was a bit hesitant to post because there's just too much going on in the space of a week and it was very strange.

I've not really aired it out loud before so to speak. But it seemed relevant to the religion thread and touched a chord in me I guess???

Thanks a million for listening

Lis

Ps - I figured out I visited the site first a week before hand

well Paloma..yes we are in a time when people, as they become more enlightened..will start becoming more attuned and "see things"..visions etc!,
I posted this at another thread.."And it shall come to pass,afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,your old men shall dream dreams and your young men shall see visions"--Joel 2:28

FREEBIRD!! ..I didnt know this man you speak of is a Cancer..yes tis true..Cancer men DO seem to like assertive and liberated and independent women!! Cancer is a cardinal sign..same as Aries!..Im curious if he has a lot of Leo in his chart tho...is his birth info posted here? If he does..all the better for you! ..dont let anyone tell you Aries and Cancer wont "make it"! Wheres his moon?

What LOvely friends I have here in Linda Land. No wonder I come back time after time. Strangely enough, I can't even talk to my daughter as much as I'd like to. She confessed that right now she finds the entire idea of me being involved with a Man very unsettling. She'll get over it in time. Till then, I have all of you to talk with.

I am thinking about asking Dave what he thinks about the two charts, but I need to get the time of birth first. Speaking of parellels, did I tell you that we were both born in the same hospital? How weird! Any way, I hope to get it this weekend. He says he doesn't believe in this stuff, but I'm begining to think he is psychic somehow, and he is ever so anxious to get me the information. Last time I talked to him, he said he would find his birth certificate right after he got off the phone, and he would call me this weekend with the time. I do keep it in mind that he is one strange critter. He does mean it when he says it, he just gets sidetracked and lost on his way to actually doing it. I will get it sooner or later. How strange that he should be the one to demand that I call upon my Aries Sun. I try not to use it to often. I mean to tell you that it has gotten me into Trouble! By the way, Lis, he was more than ok with me. The connection is still there. Do you remember a song about "You don't need to say you love me, I've been around enough to know"? It is in his voice. My Uncle Bob used to do the same thing with Aunt Betty. His voice changes when he says certain things, like "love ya". I could tell that he was really glad that I called. I'm begining to see a lot of insecurity in him and I think he needed to know that I cared enough to swallow my pride and call him. He did take it as a compliment. He has told me several times that he hates talking on the phone, yet, when we get on the phone we find each other easy to talk to. I'm the one that has to end the converstation after a while. I'm not as cheap as he is, but I don't like to run up big phone bills. This will be a real test for him. If he actually calls me and runs up his bill for more than a half hour, I will know, without doubt, that he loves me.

Aries.....you got me wondering again. I hadn't even thought about checking out Leo and Sag. He has Pluto in Leo, but 11 degrees orb of a trine to my Sun at 25 degrees Aries. I did a noon chart for him to get a general idea. I am hoping he has his Moon in Gemini. It could be in Cancer. That is kind of scarey. The Cancer Sun is enough for me to learn about right now. I do find it interesting that his North Node is conjunct my Sun, three degree orb. If it is in Gemini, it would give him a stellium in Gemini, with Mercury and Mars being there. My stellium in Gemini is one of my favorite parts of my chart. I wouldn't trade my Venus, Uranus conjunct, both trine Neptune, for any thing. It can be Magical. There always has to be a fly in the ointment. His Mercury and Mars are conjunct my Saturn instead of my Venus/Uranus. And yet.....his Jupiter is exactly trine my Venus in Gemini and my Neptune in Libra, from Aquarius. I do like Air signs. Interesting conversation is very important to me. I can hardly wait to get the time and see what Dave has to say. If nothing else, he has broadened my understanding of Astrology. I had always wondered what other women saw in that sign. Guess it's about time I learned first hand. This could be fun. It's so nice to meet a man I can have fun with. Did I tell you that I love his laugh?

Give me the opportunity to talk about my "love life" and I tend to get carried away. Be careful of what you ask for.

LOve and Laughter to ALL!!!

Freebird

hi Freebird!..yesssss..please get his full data..Ide love to see the charts!.I have some "insight"into Cancer men with Gemini and Fire in their chart!
Cancers ARE intuitive in general and his house placements may show even moreso!
The only thing tho, Can you handle the mood swings??..time will tell!..but they are SO sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!

I have wondered the same thing, Aries. The few Cancers I have known definately have those mood swings. I haven't seen a lot in that area so far. I have heard that when he is in a bad mood, it is best to leave him alone. The same can be said for my Aries temper when it gets ignighted. To this day, I have only seen the "mellow" mood. Time certainly will tell. It always does.

I will be sure to let you know asap when I get the information. Love to hear what you see in the charts. I just told my daughter that I'm waiting for it, he is supposed to call this weekend. She just laughed and told me that she isn't going to set with me and hold her breath for him to call. I wont be holding my breath either, but my ears will pick up every time I hear the phone ring. I knew from the first time I met him that I would have to accept the fact that he is not Johnny On the Spot. To me, that's a very important part of any relationship. If you can accept the person the way they are, the relationship has a chance. There will be things he will have to learn to accept about me too. As long as we don't forget how to laugh with one another, we will find a way to get by those little nagging diferences.

Love and Laughter to ALL

Freebird

Hi Freebird, Aries and everyone,

Freebird,

thank you for sharing your treasured moments. It does sound as if this is a nice man. I think as women we automatically assume that men are really up for making all the moves/calling etc. Some men are a bit more reserved than that????

I'm so pleased you took the bull by the horns and called. Please do get Dve to have a peek at your chart so that we cna see what's going on. He does sound lovely.

I better head I've a few more bits nad peices to do beofre my trip. I'll try and swing back at some point.

Lots of love,

Lis

wow Freebird..he sounds exactly like the one I know..yes..best to leave them "be" when they are in that "mood"...and as far as being johnny on the spot..god,thats sooo familar..hoping the sweetness makes up for it tho!..keep me posted about the info..I'll keep checking back! ( dont be surprised if he confesses to being a moody "SOB" either!)You will soon know..it took a while for that to "show" with the one Im thinking of..and when he finally actually called himself THAT..I was shocked..have to love their honesty tho!! Moon in gem would be good for your sun..but in my opinion its a very "flighty",or perhaps "changing" moon is a better word..careful! I was just thinkin..with your sun at 25 degrees Aries..Im almost hoping his moon is a zero or 1 degree Cancer..that would sextile your sun by degree...not sign!

Hi Ho, Tink and Aries. So glad to hear from you both. You do know we will miss you, Tink, while you are gone. Here's wishing you adventure. A Magical one at that.

Yeah, I'm glad I took the bull by the horn too. It wasn't easy. But now that I know it's necessairy every now and then, I'll undoubtedly do it again. And, yes, Aries; so far the sweetness makes up for it. That was kind of funny. I was reading your post and was thinking of how honest he is about himself when you used the same word. No wonder this man has thrown me for a loop! My ex would lie when he didn't even have to, and this one is so honest. I laughed at the way he told me how cheap he is. He really is! I was laughing at how my daughter bought my son a small air conditioner and now my son (Cancer Rising) wont hardly use it so not to run the electric bill up. He tells me that fans are just fine. He doesn't want to run his bill up either. And yet, he does spend money on some things. I'd love to see his apartment, I think. If he collects things like my son does, we may have a problem. I can't stand clutter, like a stack of plastic lids sitting on an end table. My son would collect grains of sand if he thought they had enough value. And not necessairly a value I would understand.

For some reason, I have known Gemini men that I found attractive. I see them more like butterflies. They are the best flirts. Johnny B. is kind of flirtatious. Not always to be taken seriously. It's more like "Friendly." My first impression was that he was a Gemini, and I was surprised to learn he was a Cancer. I can hardly wait to find out where his Moon is.

I have just decided that if he loves me, he will call tonight. Ooops! That's not going to work. Sure would be nice if he would call tonight. I'll just have to cross my fingers. Better yet, I think I'll go light a candle. I'll be back later.

Keep a song in your heart.

Freebird

After I got off of here last night I went out and watered my gardens, then came in and lit a couple of candles. They were burning brightly and it got later and later. I had just given up and tried to find something on TV that would take my mind off the phone, when it rang. You get three guesses as to who it was. Yep, Johnny B. live and in person. Did I say that I would know that it is true love if he spent at least a half hour on the phone? It was a little over a half an hour. And he promised to call again next weekend. It seems to come as a complete surprise to him that conversation comes so easy between us. He would say that he was going to hang up and then keep on talking. I just gotta tell you part of the conversation. I was laughing so hard, I nearly wet my pants. I don't even remember how we got on the subject, but he informs me that he HATES to wear clothes. His appartment is a one man nudist colony. I guess I do have a strange sence of humor because I got all kinds of strange images in my head. The first thing I wanted to know was how does he cook (and he does seem to like to cook) and handle the splatters. He says he is very careful and had to stop eating bacon. Then it dawns on me and I asked him if he had any clothes on while we were talking. "Not a stitch." From any other man the conversation would have sounded vulgar (something my Libra Rising can't stand), but with him, it was humorus. He finally remembered to give me his birth data. He was born 6/26/1949 in Chigago, Ill. at 3:29 pm. I ran a chart on my computer program and then my daughter suggested I double check it with the free horoscopes here and they are nearly the same. One difference was that the one in Linda Land gives a Part of Spirit and his is conjunct my Rising Sign. I'm not sure what that means, but it can't be bad. I'll get down to comparing the charts myself as soon as I get a chance, but if you want to do a comparison, Aries, my birth data is 4/15/1943, Chicago, Ill. 7:45 pm.

I'm off to post this to Dave and see what he can tell me. I shall return!

Sunshine and Roses

Freebird

Freebird! hi..Ide love to do a synastry so I will get on it right now..do you want the results posted here? ask Greg for my email if you dont..
By the way..he does have Moon in Cancer!..but the orb is too far off,although your moon sextiles his sun!

Ho Aries! I just posted to you and Dave. I'm off to do some studying of charts on my own, but thought I'd drop by here first.

I don't mind at all if we talk about it on thread. It might bore the daylights out of others though. I would like to have your e-mail address though, so I will contact Greg. I will get back to you soon.

Color me Gone

Freebird

Greetings, everyOne
I'll dive straight into the question on my mind, shall I?
How can we really know when we've met our Twin S-elf? I don't know if anyone else out there has these kind of Geminian tendencies to pick things apart, but I've been trying to define lOve (the kind between lovers) for some Time now. How can a person really know? Have many people experienced strong emotions a number of times before? And each time it's different, is it not? Or am I experiencing the circumlocution of Libra Moon conjunct Pluto?!!!
Has anyone ever felt frightened by disillusionment? When you think your heart knows, but doesn't? And what about Linda, she married several times, did she not- even with her last husband things didn't work out too smoothely, right? Does anyone ever feel afraid they may just be a little over romantic?
I don't enjoy asking these questions, but it compells me. I feel I need the TRUTH, the whOle truth and nothing but the truth. Sorry if I've rocked the boat for anyone.

LOve

YES..over-romantic here..(venus in Pisces does that I think!)..and yes..well, not "frightened" by disillusionment..but tired of it..alas I await( not that I totally expect it in THIS life) my true mate now..no more goofin' off..haha ~~ something is compelling me to be this way tho.

How do you describe an elephant to a blind man? Meeting your Twin Soul is mighty hard to describe. Lind was pretty darned good at it though. I believed that she had met him because she put into words the way I felt when I met mine. Just because you meet that other half of you, doesn't mean that both Souls have evolved enough to keep the relationship running smoothly. From the way Linda described her relationship in Gooberz I got the impression that she had a lot to learn about her own insecurities and maybe she did. I don't think any one else could have taught her so well. And there was obviously other karmic lessons that she was working on. Sometimes we have to do that on our own. I'd like to think that the next time I meet my Twin Soul we would both be more complete as individuals. In the mean time I get to learn about other kinds of love. This Johnny B that I've been talking about is a great example. There are some things that are similar. The feeling that I knew him from the moment I met him is one. Yet I do believe he is more like a Soul Mate. We've known each other before, cared about each other before, and still have important lessons to work out with each other. I kind of look at the subject like this. If you are capable of love, there will be many loves in your life. Some are friends, some become lovers and they are all different. And not one of them is more important than the other. As for the disillusionment, we all get fooled a time or two. (Or more) Been there too. At the time I do believe it happened because I was so desperate to believe that someone loved me that I allowed myself to be fooled. Afterwards, I had a hard time trusting my own judgement. It was a very painful experience. All a part of the learning experience.

Yippee! Daughter is home. I gotta go and see if she knows how to help me put the windshield back on the truck. It flew off when I turned them on to come home tonight. She's usually better at these things than me.

Singing in the Rain

Freebird

Okay, i know this is a really naive Question but I'm gonna ask it anyway-
How do i know if "he" is my twin soul?
Is it gonna be like instant connection or is it gonna be a gradual thing and well do I have to look into the cahrts to find out if we are twin souls ( I know I'll have to look to comfirm all the planets and stuff ) or will I just feel it?
You know something of the sort that Darwin asked in the beginning.
Well I'm confused as ever!?!?!?!

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Hugs Kisses And Cookies!

Not only will you feel it, he will too. People around you will feel it. When Twin Souls come together they give off such a glowing aura that it touches others. As for astrology, you will get glimpses there, but the knowledge comes from the heart and when you experience it, believe me you will know. You'll look in the mirror and see a grin you didn't even know you owned. Then you will look at his face and "what do you know, he has that same silly grin." Just before I married my Twin Soul, I almost married another man. A friend tried to talk me out of marrying Danny. I spent an agonizing weekend trying to decide if I truly loved Danny. I went to bed Sunday night and was half asleep, when this light went on, and I knew beyond a doubt that if I had to ask myself if I loved him, the answer was "no." There was not a single doubt in my mind when I married Ray. I knew I loved him at that moment and always would. I also knew it was the same for him. Even when we went through the divorce, there was never any doubt in my mind that he still loved me. It was just the liscence that didn't work. It is an experience that you have to experience for yourself to truly KNOW. Do keep in mind that if there is any question in your mind, he isn't the one.

As for how long it takes once you have met him; depends on the people involved. Ray and I talked about it later and we both knew that something special happened the moment we met. We laughed about how both of us had tried to walk away from the other because the feelings were so over whelming that they scared us. It took a while for us to get together, but when we did, we knew it was fated. Maybe you'll be able to tell by the wonderful conversations you have about the day you told him that you loved him. You had blurted it out because you couldn't help it and ruined his speach he been working on to tell you that he loved you and find out if you felt the same. Magical things just happen when you meet him. Take my word for it! I've been fortunate to know other Twin Souls. You know how I recognize them? It's in their eyes and it's accompanied by "smile wrinkles." You'll know if you have met him by looking in the mirror. I did that recently. I was looking in the mirror trying to see what Johnny B sees in me. There is a difference in my appearence and I do look better. It isn't the same glow that I had when I was with Ray. Meeting him has changed me for the better. That's how I know he is a Soul Mate. I'm so glad he appeared when he did. I have met Soul Mates before and mine usually do appear when I need them the most.

If you are asking all of these questions, I know you haven't met him. Wait until you find the one that when you look in his eyes, you know Now you have found the one. The love will be in his eyes as well as yours. It will be in his voice when he says your name. He truly is worth waiting for. Many mystics are saying that more and more Twin Souls are coming together as I write. We need their positive effect on every one around them if we are going to save Mother Earth. See, you owe it to Mother Earth to wait until you find you are living in a moment you would die for. It will be with him.

Maybe I should write a romance Novel. Or did I just do that in this post. I'd be a good one because I do know what it is like to love DEAP.

You will meet him. I just K-NOW it. Then it will be entirely up to you to take it from there.

Wishing you LOVE,

Freebird

Im confused here Freebird..if you married what you thought was your twin soul..I doubt you would have split up.That definitley would have been a soulmate tho!
Now this is something Ive been pondering..but perhaps we DO meet our twinsouls but we arent evolved enough for it to "work" properly...one thought is this could just be all a part of the VEIL.I do think tho what most people have thought was a true twinsoul..was just another karmic tie/soulmate we have travelled with from before..some being stronger than others.Ive said before on these threads,that its truly a cosmic "blessing" to encounter our true ONE mate,if such a thing.( I believe there is).Im believing more and more now that we have to be perhaps almost.. if not AS perfect as the "masters" to have this blessing bestowed upon us.Soulmate aspects ARE shown in the charts..twinsouls Im still working on, although since there arent any that I personally know..its kind of hard to study.Ive been looking at Elizabeth and Robert Brownings charts tho,and I dont see anything really stronger than strong soulmates/karmic ties.~~the study goes on~~ ~~and if anyone here truly believes they are with their twinsoul/twinflame..I would really like to take a look at the synastry.thanks!

Freebird'
That was an amazing explaination!
Well if you did meet your twin soul why did you get divorerced?
Just to many conflicts or restrictions?
I asked coz well I like this scorp a year ago if it was a crush or an obsession it was a BIG one!!!
He was a Scorp and I never told him that I cared turned out that he cared as well and we just kinda let each other go thinking the other didn't care! I thought there was no point in telling him even though we were real close coz he didn't reciprocate my feelings (like I thought then); and he being the scorp never expressed his true feelings!!!!I just moved on with life.

Yesterday a friend of mine told me that she likes him and it just crushed me .....for no apparent reason it just did and well I'm "trying" to figure out what is/was it that I felt for him? "Unthinkable to share him" feeling.
Maybe I stll like him but this is ridiculous!
Its been one year now! Guess 's take long to heal.

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Freebird,

Wow!! What an amazing post!! I know how you feel.

Gemini,

I also know how you feel. Speaking from experience, I believe you should tell your friend how you feel about her & the Eagle in your heart & on your mind. I mkade the mistake of telling my friend that I didn't mind her being with the Scorpion I still pined for and it was bad... that situation opened the Pandora's box of my life. So, be honest with him & her. That's my advice! Good luck!

Suzanne

Hello everyone, I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in here....
I thought I'd share the story of how I met my Soul Mate/Twin Soul. It was five years ago last April and I was in a very turbulent phase of my life. I had just finished with my first "real" boyfriend (we had been together for three years), I was also doing basic training (for a summer job in the CDN Armed Forces) and was NOT looking for romance at all. My sister and I end up going to a bar one Friday night and meeting some guys that we already knew, along with a "new" friend of theirs. And when I looked at him, I was standing on top of a cliff looking down, but there was no fear, if I jumped, he was gonna catch me, and we were gonna FLY. It was INTENSE! Now, I am a basically shy, somewhat insecure person. I did not pick guys up at bars. But somehow I invite this lot to a party I was having the next night (totally fabricated on the spot). I spend the next day in a dream world and when he arrived at my door (I knew he would come) it was like a magic world opened for us. I was the rudest host you've ever seen that night, but my friends forgave me, b/c as one said later, she's never seen love like that before. We sat under the stars and talked and talked. We played gutiar. We listened to the same music. His apartment window looked over my house! We lived down the street from each other when we were nine (remarkable in its self b/c we both also moved alot as children). He loved my poetry, I loved the music he wrote...and on and on He spent the night (again, not something I typically did), and he spent every night after that. We moved in together three months later and now are proud parents of our cosmic love-child and cannot imagine life apart. Now, to all of you who are saying "Awwww", and "How lovely". Let me say this....Our relationship is not all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows. In fact, we bicker, we argue, we struggle for power, we say horrible things...and yet we love, in a way that brings heartfelt tears of joy to my eyes while I write this. Astrology speaking I am Libra Sun, Pisces moon and Scorpio rising. He is Capricorn Sun, Scorpio moon and Saggitarius rising. Our planets share many aspects. For interests sake, I'll mention a few...Sun/Pluto conjunction (me to him) and Sun/Pluto square (Him to me)...Sun/Saturn trine (both ways)...Venus/Pluto conjunct by degrees (Me to him) Venus/Pluto trine (him to me), Moon trine Saturn, and many more. I have had vivid dreams/remebrances of us together previously. I had a great teacher once who told me that Matthew and I came together in this life to do an important work for humanity, but have much negitive karma to resolve before we can make this possible. Yep. That would be the case. And you know what, every moment is worth is, because eevery time we fight and then make up, we're one step closer to god. That might sound melodramatic, but it feels like that, God after all is love... We have very different natures but it's like we complete one another. I won't say two halves of a whole, b/c we are definately are own people. More like the love we have makes a third person (well I guess it did that too ) But seriously, I will think on this a bit more, maybe write a poem, because I need looser, freer words if I'm even going to be close to describing this.
I'm glad I had the chance to write this down, it reminded why it is that I put up with him at all. (LOL, I'm in trouble if he ever decides to surf over here!)
Hope this doesn't seem to long and self-absorbed, and please no one tell my mom I picked him up in bar and slepth with him on our first "date" The poor dear wouldn't be able to look at me straight again!
Peace,
Terri

those ARE very interesting aspects there Terri!! ..IDe like to take a closer look at the charts..a study Im doing but yours is definitely karmic!
Did you find your lives "paralled" each others with the things you talk about?~~there are supposed to be other "clues" but if you know already then..you know!

Aries:
I would love for you to have a look. I'm still a novice, so having a pro like you check my work would be awesome!
But yes, in terms of karma, I think I know what I need to know. I trust my intution, and with him, it's extra strong.
Our lives have not "paralled" exactly, but some of the major things were there...our parents divorced when we were the same age, we were both bright kids but fooled around in school, we both had been in one serious relationship prior to meeting each other, we both had been "dumped", and both took it pretty badly. Strange things too, like I mentioned in my post, we lived very close to each other when we were young. That's strange b/c he mostly grew up in England, I mostly grew up in a different part of the city. For one year though (1985) we both lived in a certain part of Toronto. For both of us that was a very very hard year. I wonder if our souls were yearning for each other, even then? Later he lived in an apartment that over-looked the house I lived in. He actully has pictures that he took from his balcony and my house is in them. My ex-boyfriend's best friend lived in the apartment next door to Matt...I was over there many times...His sister-in-law's sister went to high school with me, they dated once or twice...he hung out with all these people who knew all my friends...six degrees of separation, and we met when it was exactly right for us!
One of things I read in Relationship Signs said that a certain aspect we had (I can't rememeber which one right now) could indicate a previous life together where we shared a strong religous purpose. This is especially interesting to me, as I know of three lives where religion/spirituality has been a focus....and my teacher indicated that this was the reason we are together again now.
But as I mentioned, there are DIFFICULT aspects between us....I believe LOVE can conquer all...but it surely isn't always easy!
Please let me know what you uncover...Feel free to post it here, as it might provide insight for the other people reading this thread.
Peace,
Terri

hi Terri..yes,so you must have the data posted at Dgs site..I'll search. Most of the spiritual/religious aspects can be found with the contact of ones personal planets on the others Neptune.(in general)
The similarities you mentioned are a good clue also!

Aries...
Sorry for making you search! I was a bit sleepy last night.
The info is...
Terri: September 29, 1974 @ 10am in Edmonton
Matt: January 10, 1972 @ 4:20am in Adelaide. Australia
Hope this makes it easier for you!
Peace,
T

thanks Terri! I look forward to checking this out,but it will be an ongoing study with no direct results,[at this time]as Im learning more about the soulmate/twinsouls theory all the time.[This may be for a future book,and I will let you know.]Its a hard research when I dont know any people off hand(sad but true!) that I truly think are real twinsouls.What it will take is to find a couple who are very spiritual I believe,and perhaps ascended moreso than most of "us".Im also looking at odd things such as "design/shape" of the 2 charts,a few of what are considered the "love" asteroids,a regular synastry vs.a composite,and eventually looking at it from a "vedic" point of view, etc. As you can see this could take EONS..haha! I go back to work tomorrow and will work on this in spare time..I will get to the point of wanting your email address for private concerns..thanks! This will be exciting!!~~thanks!
BTW,are those birthtimes exact?? this is important.

Hi everyone,

I don't know if I grasped the exact meaning of Twin Self/Twin Soul from a web page I was reading but the guy writing it suggested that 'Twin Self' is the Twin Flame you meet in Earth form but the 'Twin Soul' is the Twin Flame you meet in Heavenly form.

P.S Has anyone watched 'Somewhere in Time': amazing film about Twin Selves/Souls?

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SeaCar

Hi everyone,

I don't know if I grasped the exact meaning of Twin Self/Twin Soul from a web page I was reading but the guy writing it suggested that 'Twin Self' is the Twin Flame you meet in Earth form but the 'Twin Soul' is the Twin Flame you meet in Heavenly form.

P.S Has anyone watched 'Somewhere in Time': amazing film about Twin Selves/Souls?

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SeaCar

Sorry, everyone but, silly me, posted the same message twice. Can you tell I'm an Aquarian with a Gemini Rising(!)

I can hardly wait to see what all you find in Terri's and Matt's charts, Aries. I have sent off for information about my Aunt Betty and Uncle Bob like I said I would, but haven't gotten an answer yet.

Your discription of how you met your Twin Soul kind of gave me goose bumps, Terri. There are some very strong similairities in our experiences. One that I find rather interesting is that you weren't looking for a special man at the time and neither was I. He wasn't looking for a woman either. That's why I believe it is something that just happens and usually when you least expect it. Matter of fact, the same applies to Johnny B. Neither of us were looking for a relationship. That was part of the reason I went out with him the first time. He was like me, not wanting to get involved. But the thing that really blew me away about your story is the fact that you came so close to him long before you met him. It was the same thing with Ray. We ran around with the same people through Jr. High and High School. He had even been in a bad car, motor cycle accident right in front of a house my folks owned. I knew all about the accident, but didn't realize it was him until after we were going together for a while. I had known his best friend for years and was even dating him when we met. (That was a bummer!) It amazed us that we had never met before we did, but there was this strong feeling on both our parts that it was just a part of our destiny.

As for your question about why we were divorced if we were truly Twin Souls; just because you meet your Twin Soul, it doesn't mean that you will be able to stay together. It took me an awful long time to figure it out myself. It was so hard to understand at the time. It had it's negitive effect on me. If I couldn't make it with a man that loved me as much as he did, what was I going to do in the future? I "knew" that I would never love any one as much as I did him and he "knew" it would be the same for him. I remember the night we talked about it and he was in tears when he told me that he would never love any one like he loved me, but he had to have his freedom. I know the difference between a white lie so as not to hurt the other, and the truth. That is one thing I can say for him. He was honest with me even when it was painful. It wasn't until I really got into reincarnation that I began to understand what had happened. Strangely enough, I still don't remember any past lives with him, as much as I would like to. But, I do remember a past life with my second husband. I killed him in a past life. I had some heavy karma to work out with him. I was just as destined to meet him as I was to meet my Twin Soul. For some reason, we were allowed to spend some precious moments together, but then both of us had to go our separate ways and work on our own evolution. I hope he is doing as well as I am. I suspect he may be even doing better. I K-NOW that we will meet again. Maybe the next time we will be free enough to spend a lot more time with each other like Terri and Matt. Time to work out our own differences and still love each other. Till then, I am still working on my own evolution, learning to love and trust again with a little help from the Soul Mates I meet along the way. Just putting one foot in front of the other until I get where I want to be.

I do believe the dinner bell just rang. Time to chow down. Till the next time;

LOve and Laughter to ALL

Freebird aka Glory Be

SeaCar..hi..yes that movie has been recommended but I have yet to see it ..also I am in an almost total agreement about meeting our twinsoul in "heavenly"form.(reasons for this,including a very profound dream I had)

Freebird..you mentioned a couple of interesting points:
a} a lot of info Ive got my hands on does suggest its certainly NOT when you are looking that you may encounter one...the opposite as a matter of fact.
b} it tends to happen when (usually) both have just been through a "crises" or something drastic,etc.
c}theres a BIG chance that soulmates does not a twinsoul make..meaning just cuz you may have past life history,it doesnt mean someone totally "new" isnt the "one"!( this is a big part of what I want to study here). I find it funny at times,how people wanting synastries done NEED to know if its a karmic relationship.Personally I say those relationships tend to be a LOT of work,hence the reason for it!Nearly everyone Im meeting now I have soulmate aspects with,something I find scary~knowing the reasons why~ karma is in need of balancing in these situations~to make way for something "brighter" about to come. ~~~~~more later..thanks all!

Aries:
I will look into the birthtimes to make sure they are as accurate as possible. Mine is (I think...there's a mini family mystery going on, and there's a chance (very slight)my birthtime may be off. I will double-check with Matt's mom on his.

I just wanted to add a thought to this Twin Soul/SoulMate debate...I whole heartedly agree that many of the people who think they have found a twin, have actually found a Soul Mate. I cannot presume one way or another about Matt and myself, and frankly, I'm happy with him regardless. But it's interesting how many people want to know if they shared a past life with the guy they just met...as if that's a guarantee of a good relationship now. In reality, people are probably better off in some cases with a couple good love aspects and NO karmic aspects in their charts...I say this because of the difficulty inherent in balancing karma, and the hard work and discipline it can take. (Of course, there are rewards.... )
Anyway, Aries, please keep me in the loop. Feel free to get my email addy from Greg.
Good luck!

t

Hope you all are having one Fine day. It is my day off and I've got so much to do that it boggles my poor little mind. Had to find time to drop in and share in all the wisdom.

It does sound to me like you and Matt do have a Twin Soul thing going, but you are so wise to enjoy his company no matter what. And what a good point you make about the posibility that a past life connection doesn't mean the relationship will be easy. I had to find time to do a synastry for this girl at work like I've been promising her. The past life connections are there, but it looks like the relationship could be very difficult for her. There is even a warning that the stress of it could effect her health. I intend to advise her to give it careful thought. It will be up to her as to wether or not she will want to take on this kind of karma in this life, although I wonder if she would be avoiding something she will have to eventually face any way. I mean, if you have a karmic tie, it wont go away forever.

Aries, I am going to e-mail Greg again and ask for your address. Hopefully we will be in touch soon.

LOve and Laughter

Freebird

Thankyou, Airies, Freebird and Gemini for sharing your thoughts in reply to my question. Earlier on in this thread, I explained a bit about my situation, and now I'll add that in the beginning of the relationship with my ex, I asked myself if he could be my Twin Self, and the reply I got was "no, but he's someone you're meant to be with". I only regret I didn't finish with him in a more gentle way. Perhaps if I was less selfish, I could have put off the relationship I'm currently in. I did put off telling him, but even if I had put off getting together with this man, it wouldn't have changed the truth; I wanted him. And it was the truth that he was afraid of. I couldn't love him the way he wanted me to anymore, and sadly he was unable to even remain fiends with me after I told him there was someone else. If I evaluate things now, I think I may have made a mistake in allowing my emotions to get out of control at the time; allowing attachment to make me hold on so much, moving in with him and dreaming of permanence. I think (personally) that when two people become intimate, it invokes such natural feelings in them. I knew he wasn't my Twin Self, but doubted my own beliefs and carried on, allowing myself to be carried away with these times. (Are many people still celibate for a while nowadays?).
Airies, you can compare my relationship chart if you want (my DOB: 25th May 1980 at 11:35pm in Bristol, England, his DOB: 11th December 1960 at 6:30am in Tripolis, Libya). When I got with him, I wasn't so sure (about the same question previously mentioned), and can't continue what I wanted to say because the library is closing, sorry! Ah!

LOve

Hello chaps and chap'esses!

I've been dieing to stop by and visit for ages - but I can do no justice to the posts.

Freebird, HOW did the charts go - was there soemthign special between you? is all still fine in the garden - I'm totally curious! or perhaps just plain nosey - well I am a market researcher.

Hello to Em, Aries, terri, Gemi and anyone else I've failed to mension.

Lots of lvoe, I really miss being able to really chat to you all.

Lots of love

Lis

Aries (i peaked on another thread!)- shame on you for not having read gooberz! I would have thought you'd have done that ages ago! It's like finding a hidden treasure, and is a truely remarkable book.

Em how are you getting on with it, did you get past the hard part?

hi Tinker!..well I had heard Gooberz is a poetry book(?) and Im not too much a poetry buff..odd considering Im an (amateur) musician,I know.!
I will eventually read it,but for now I have about 10 or 12 other books Im in the middle of ...along with a full time job,fighting "corrupt"management,($$$ is all they care about ya know!) and 2 teen daughters ~~haha

Hi Tinkerbell!
What were you reffering to when you asked did I get past the hard part? Were you on about Gooberz or life in general? I finished Gooberz either last year or earlier this year. As for life, well, no- I'm not past the hard part- life has always had all sorts of problems, but I don't let it get to me- I don't need much money to be happy, and I WILL find a way to travel (overseas!). I'm going to go to India, the Phillipines, Thailand and Colorado, maybe South America too. I'm going to do volunteer work with groups of Native American people, and chill out with them, hear all they have to say.
First of all though, I'll spend some time gaining experience in waiting or bar work; the kind of work I can get while I'm travelling. I've stated to get on better with my Dad, my stepsister and my stepmother now, and I'm going with them next April to either Pompeii or Egypt!!! How wonderful, perhaps it will be Egypt- I've always wanted to go there- and now the surprise! Perhaps they offered because it's also my 21st birthday in May. If you add together my full date of birth, you get 21. I'm thinking of changing my name to equal 24 to perhaps help me be a bit better off financially (my day of birth is the 25th, and my name equals 20).
My Libra Moon is conjunct Pluto, and rules the 9nth house; religion and travel; perhaps that's why I feel such an urge. I've been kind of trapped all my life, like a bird in a cage, but much more so up to the age of 17, before I left home. I can just about get by now; I feel I am evolving and opening (my chakras) and am happier in myself.

By the way, I'll finish what I was writing about my lover before I had to 'make like a tree and leaf' the library yesterday.....
When I asked myself the same question about him as I'd asked before, I wasn't so sure. He doesn't physically look anything like 'the boy of my dreams' (I had this dream when I was 9, which I became obsessed with for a while, creating a kind of imaginary friend, at that age in my mind, and later in my pOems). He doesn't LOOK like I thought my Twin Elf would, but somehow.....his Elf, higher self, DOES!!!
I lOve the cOlOurs of his spirit, the way he feels things, the way he sees things, his very Nature, his essence completes me; seems to be like a long lost voice which had somehow been calling to me, all my life, like an echo.....somehow not lost, just postponed by Saturn as I stuggle with the dilemmas and concepts, tormented by the illusion of distance and Time, and by the Time I'd calmed the storm within, not totally eradicating it but holding it under control, along with a new, stronger poise and mission, well, it was when I wasn't looking that it happened, in the place I least expected. It is as though our paths of karma have met and flowed into one. I had something with him very briefly a few years before, at it invoked strong feelings in me, but I was very confused, and I know now more than ever that things weren't meant to happen then because the time wasn't right; if they had, there would most likely have been a great deal of pain, because I had a lot of things to learn about who I am and my insecurites (thank God for Gooberz). He had things to learn, too. The story continues.....!

LOve

P.S. Here's another thing: since I've been with him, I've felt myself become more psychic!

Now I'm all confused I've mixed up my Morganas and my Em's. SO sorry guys - it was Morgana was reading Gooberz, Freebird will be laughting at me - I was Firebirding her earlier!

Aries it is poetry but more of a story than a poem really. The poetry in it is not off putting at all. Try it when you are doen with the other 22 and the kids and stuff - it really is quiet spectacular!

Em sorry - Now your the knowflake in the west country? or are both you and Morgana from around there...I'm confused?

I met my twin I think - but I was way to chicken! and ran and hid right under the bed ,

I'll stop by when I can

Love

Lis, buck buck buck buck!

I am determined to post and I will post!!! I know Mercury went direct, but it must have hit something rediculas in my chart. We are having some remodeling done in the house and the guys knocked out both of our telephone lines last night. Got the phone back and now our server keeps kicking me off line. I will be calm, I will be calm, I will be calm.

Don't worry about it Tink. You aren't the only one who's been confused lately. I actually called this guy at work "Jimmy" and he corrected me. His name is Johnny. Asked him why he let me call him Jimmy all this time and he insisted I never called him that before. After thinking about it for a while, he was right. I told him he could call me "Dazed and Confused."

Yes, Dear. There are all kinds of connections, a lot of them past life connections and obviously there are lessons to be learned. Aries was kind enough to help me. You can check out the Astrology thread, Aries and Cancer, if you like. Dave was ever so helpful too. I have no idea where this is all going to go, but I may as well sit back and enjoy the ride. For the moment, I am waiting on a phone call from Mr. B. He was supposed to call last Saturday night, but didn't. I talked to my sister who introduced us and she told me that he worked 12 hours that day and fell asleep right after he got home. I am not the most patient woman I know, but I figure he is worth waiting for.

Aries, you have got to read Gooberz when you get the chance. My daughter was the one who bought the book and she is the family poet. It is something I have never gotten into myself. When she loaned it to me, I was a bit put off at first, but not for long. It was as simple as finding the rythem. A musican like you should be able to find the beat. Think of it as a new dance. She has so many thing to say in that book and I know it would touch you like it did the rest of us who have read it. I have read it several times and get something more out of it every time.

I'm going to post this before I get kicked off line again. I already had to reconnect the line once while writing this.

Sunny Side Up you ALL.

Firebird (See, I don't even know my own name any more.)

HAHA hi Firebird..haha

Hi everyOne gorgeous thread. The trauma I encountered upon meeting my Twin S-elf was what brought me to post at Lindaland and sparked my spiritual growth.

Aries you can add our synastry to your research if you need some more. Greg has my email address if you'd like our info. The times are exact and there is additional information that adds to our synastry, but you may not need that.

Love,
moonglow

ok..thanks moonglow!

Hi tink and everyone else!!

Great you didn't forget me, although I didn't post for such a long time. Yes, it was me who was reading Gooberz, and no, I am not past the hard part yet... Actually I have a little hard-part-of-my-life at the moment - nothing serious, though, I hope I will soon recover.

No, I am not from the west country, actually I am from Germany, but great you didn't notice my mistakes...

See you soon

Morgana

Hello Everyone,

I have to agree with Moonglow that this is a very lovely thread. Right now it is almost 3 in the morning but I just couldn't stop reading this thread until I got all the way to the end. Very beautiful and inspiring. I too, long to find my TwinSelf. Being the Libra & Libra Rising that I am, I wonder if I'll ever know who my Twin Self is. For all I know I could be with him right now or have already met him, but am not really sure if any were really and truly "the One". I suppose I would truly know if I did find him, so since I have doubts, that must mean that I haven't found him yet. I did have a dream several months ago about a man I have not met in this lifetime and I wonder if he is the One?

Anyway, I started reading Gooberz this past April and am somewhere in the 900 pages, but then in June I just suddenly stopped reading it. I don't know if it's because I was reading too much too fast and I had to stop for awhile, or maybe my soul isn't quite ready for the part I am on (where Linda is having this really long dream where the dog is talking to her). But it is a very fascinating and excellent book. I've referred to it as my bible many, many times. For anyone who hasn't read it yet, you don't know what your missing.

Oh Terry, I just wanted to say that we have the same birthday, but I'm 1 year older. And BTW, in my opinion, I think Matt is your Twin Self too. Your story was sort of similar to mine in that I too have been with my boyfriend for 5 years and I met him at a bar when I was not looking for love (I already had a boyfriend). And like Em, I ended up breaking his heart when I ended the relationship to start a new one with the man I met at the bar. And also like Em, there is an age difference between us, although not quite as extreme.

Oh Freebird: It's so good to see you again in this thread. I wondered for months what ever became of you and Johnny since you mentioned him in the dream thread awhile back. I just knew you two would connect and feel the magic! I am so happy that you have found love once again. Your heart so deserves to know joy instead of pain. I wish you both all the very best and lots of happiness and love.

Well I really should get to bed now if I expect to be up early tomorrow morning. My boyfriend is taking me to Newport for the day to go tourist shopping!

Peace and love to you all,

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Venus

Well, Hi there, Venus! So good to hear from you again. Yeah, I'm still around. I haven't been posting a lot lately. Been awful busy and don't always have a lot to say. That is so sweet of you to think that I deserve a little joy. But, there are always two sides to any coin. I've been upset over Johnny B for a while now. I haven't heard a word from him for 3 weeks now. I've tried calling him several times and have just about given up. I either get his answering machine or there's no answer. I don't hardly know what to think. Maybe he is simply having a rough time of it lately just like I have. Our Rising Signs are very close and we do tend to have things happen in a paralell way. I'm trying to figure out why there is so much going on in every body's lives lately. I wonder if it doesn't have a lot to do with the eclipses last month. Part of me thinks that we may be wise to not be talking right now. I've lost count of the couples I know who have gotten into terrible arguments in the past week or so. Even this one couple who are so perfect together. They got into a dish breaking, rip roaring fight over a bag of potatoe chips. And they never fight!!! I haven't exactly been immune to "rip roaring" myself. I've had some unpleasant moments at home and I really went bonkers at work yesterday. One of the girls I work with took her vacation and we all have been working extra hard because of being short handed. My boss was in a real nasty mood yesterday and was really giving me and the other girl I work with a hard time. I have gone through her bad moods for three years without a mumblin' word, but that ended yesterday. I royally told her off and she was so upset, she hid out in the bathroom for the longest time. That was kind of mean of me. I am always so easy to get along with and go to great lengths to avoid confrontation. So, when I do blow up, it takes people by complete surprise. She still was barely speaking to me today. Sundays and Mondays are the busiest days at work and she always sceduals me on those days, but not this Monday. I told the other girl I work with that I think she gave me the day off because she needs the day away from me. That's OK. I am so burned out and need the rest real bad. Maybe she will get over it by the time I go back to work Tuesday. I hope I do too.

I almost forgot the moral of this story. Even if you do meet your Twin Soul, or a Soul Mate like Johnny B. there is no garantee that it will be all roses and sunshine. The last time I talked to him, every thing was so fine. He told me that he loved me, and then silence. I sit here wrestling with my own fears. They may prove to be unfounded. He may have simply crawled into his Cancer shell until the forces that be calm down. If not, if he has changed his mind, so be it. I'll survive. Lord knows I've survived worse. I'll just have to wait and hope for the best. He sure has reminded me of how vunerable a person is when they fall in love.

Well, I gotta go for now. Maybe next time I post things will be better. Wouldn't that be loverly?

Here's to LOve and Laughter

Freebird

hi Freeeeeeeeeebird ..although what you speak of is very true for soulmates..I still believe it wouldnt be so for twinflames!.I also still think one needs to be very evolved to have this twinflame reunion. I took a look thru one of Sylvia Brownes latest books and she says our true "twin" is on the other side..hmmm..interesting!. I will email you soon..I need some sleeeeeeeeeep!

PS..now why was I NOT surprised about JB?? those d*** Cancer men!!! Let me know if he goes 2 months without calling,then comes along like no time had passed!!!...sheeeesh!

Yo Aries. I see you are back. Welcome home, girl! Hope you had a real good time.

I've been sitting here thinking about what you said....that the individuals have to be very evolved for twinflames to be reunited. By the way, I like the term twinflames even better than Twin Souls. Makes for a nice image, like two rainbow colored candles burnig brightly. I'd like to ammend the idea though. I met my twinflame, yet neither of us were evolved enough to make it a lasting relationship. I tend to picture him out there on the West Coast working on his own growth just like I am. I dreampt of him again last night. Like a true Aquarius, he shows up when least expected. I'm still waiting to hear from my sister to find out the birth data on my Aunt and Uncle. They certainly would be an example of very evolved twinflames that spent a life time together. How do I know they were very evolved? They were full of love and not only for each other. That may have been a spring board, but they touched a lot of people in a very positive way. Think I'll e-mail my sister again and try to get her on the ball. I may just put her on a guilt trip. It usually works with her. She is another one that I haven't heard a mumblin' word from for quite a while now.

You may be right about Mr. B. I tried calling him again last night and hung up on the answering machine. Got my Aries dander up. Why should he hear my sweet, melodic voice if all I can hear is a recording? Rest assured that I will be telling you all about it if/when I hear anything.

I'm off to enjoy my day off. Catch you later.

Freebird

Hi A2,

au .. The other siide of what?
Quiit changiing the rules on the soul mate stuff!
Would a twiin flame mate connectiion whatever be liike you or not liike you at all?
Ii mean on the iinside of course, not how we act, but how we are.
Someone saiid you'll just know, another says you won't know, some say easy to meet, another says hard core Karma. One says they can be a relatiive, the same or opposiite sex. Next door or around the world.
What is the idea behind the twiin anyway? The fiinal piiece of all the soul spliinters?
Or could iit be just our own longiing to be our spriitual selves reconnected wiith the One or God. In other words, there iis no twiin.

So based on that here is my twiin flame story for the day.

I was out of cigarettes this morning. My son came to visit last night.
I whet to the cigarette store at 7:00 am which is next to a convenience store. It is much easier to park in the convenience store parking lot and then skip happily down these stepping stones jioning them on to the elaboratly painted cross walk, hadicap and customer parking and all types of safty issues gone mad that is used on occasion by the little old lady from Pasidenia and me.

This morning there was a big delivery truck with long trailer blocking the whole area and someone had raked the bark dust (to clean up the trash) and covered the stepping stone with a fine powery dusty layer. I worked my way around the truck only to find puddles of water from someone spray washing the parking lot. There were crates and boxes of cigarettes and pop and munchies food all over the place. Two guys with hand trucks were working up a sweat. But I was the only customer so the transaction when quick.

As I made my way back to the top of the stepping stone yellow brown road, I came to a dead end at a hugh big truck grill overhanging the last little part of the hill.
I had to hold on to the grill and bummper and do a mountain clibing manuver to get up to the pavement. The truck was a farely new Ford F-350 one ton 4 whell drive, obviuosly a working truck as it had some awsume tools box arrangement, great tires (not the real ugly nobbies, but cool tread), and the whole thing was coated with a shine of dirty dust, real dirt, not oily or icky, just fine top soil.

So after a slight blissfull elation of playing mentally in the dirt and a great truck, I stumbbled to mine and got in. I was sitting there looking at the size of this truck, which I figure was twice the size of mine, trying to open my cigarettes which had that little pull thing broke off.

I looked at the rear wheel of the big truck and I couldn't believe what I saw. How could that be there and how did it get up there and in such a short time. Just then my twin came walking up to the truck on the other side to get in go. I had no time to think only act. I jumped out of my truck and ran up to the passenger window and knocked on it. He looked over at me an scrowled like I was a bear trying to get in. I pointed to the back of his truck and motioned for him to come back there. I walked to the rear wheel and he got out and came around.

He can right up to me about six inches from my body, he was a great big Aries guy about 6 ' 6" and 300 lbs. Beatiful all over with cowboy boots, a vest, a breard, and thick hair, deep dark green eyes. I thot I was going to die. He breathed on me and scrowled, and made a low grutting sound. My head was bent back looking up at him. I just barely managed to point to the rear wheel before, I thoht, he was going to pick me up and throw me sonewhere. I said, "You have an extra little passenager on your wheel. I don't know how he got there but maybe he is a stowaway."

Well, the man turned away from me an started looking at the truck. But he didn't see what I was pointing at. He scrowled at me again and I quickly pointed again almost touching the object. He looked again amost following my arm with his face as to see where it was pointing. I then realized that the guy couldn't see very well and being a Aries guy was to prode to wear glasses or dead broke and couldn't aford them. He finally saw the object.

He walked over and reached up into the fender well (I didn't do that because you can get kiled out here for messing with a guy's truck, besides I hadn't the time to do it.)

He pulled out a tiny strange colored kitten about the size of his hand and looked at it like it was an anoing fly. He held it high in the air. I didn't know if he was going to thorw it somewhere or what. He looked at the kitty and shook it a little and all of this dirt fillter into the air like fairy dust. The kitty was white! He brought it down close to his face and a big, almost tearful smile came onto has face.

He said, "Smuge! I told you not to get in my truck!" He took the kitty and got in his truck and drove off with a lot of noise and a trail of dirt flying in the air.

I'll miss 'em.

thank you,
Darwin

OH! Beautiful story Darwin, thank God you saw the kitty!!!!

I think I have never met a soulmate or twin self, never felt like I imagine must be when you do.

I have fell in love twice, but I'm sure none was my soulmate...........(sigh!!) (nostalgic)

Anyone feels that way too ??????, of never finding your soulmate in this life????

Pretty story!

hi! is it toolate to get in on the soul mate chat?

well, just in case any knowledgable souls are paying attention, i think i met a soul mate and scared him away. but if we are truly soul mates, wow, what did i do to him in a previous life for him to run? i'm an aries sun on the cusp of taurus with gemini rising and a sag moon. he's a pisces sun, double scorpio. all sorts of magic happened from my perspective; many coincidences ... bizarre. the chemistry was definitely there, but ... oh well. my heart hurts not being in his life. he was the only man i ever really felt anything for, and ... we still stay in touch, but i let him contact me. it seems futile. is it our charts or just life?

Hi y'all! 2 days to go,2 days to go eh I mydaddy oh, 2 days to go.

Proxy wonderful story but you know that.......cos I said so!

Aries-Gem-Sag hello and welcome to the thread. It's never toolate to meet your twin or join a conversation round here. I've not had much chance to chime in recently and miss the chat a big bit, but I'm home in a few days so I get to catch up with EVERONE and just say all the stuff I wanted to say from here but have not had the chance.
Better fly

Love

Lis

hi Aries-Gem-Sag...Im sure it will be in the charts showing as a square with saturn somewhere..namely venus squared Saturn..there may also be pluto/venus squares or opps. Both full charts would have to be viewed tho.As far as what you may have done to each other..I hope some day I can help with that..but for now I cant..there are people who can tho!

calling Darwin..anybody home??!?!?
You pose some good questions..hope some day I can answer them for ya!!LOL
I have an almost full understanding of soulmates..but as far as twinflames...theres so much to know about this topic..and it may not be known till the "veils" come down.It may be one of those things.."its not what we thought"! ITs not that I keep changing the "rules" but I have been studying this for a while now..and still no definite concise answers! But some food for thought is..with a divorce rate of close to 50%(canada)..are there ANY people who fall into a twinflame category!?!?!? Are ANY of us truly "evolved"enough to experience and be blessed with it?? As long as we have couples lying to each other..affairs,-- silly bickering over financial stuff,sex(the two biggest things couples argue over according to stats!!)..then I doubt its possible!. This is where a persons belief system can come into play here. A Kabbalist pal of mine has told me about a strict set of ideals to follow in order to help the bringing of a twinflame to us.(she is in her 7th year of celibacy,something I dont expect of you Dar..hehe)Perhaps one day as we become enlightened (which is happening moreso now than EVER) then it will be a lot more possible!..just my thoughts..not necessarily the ideas of this network or sponsors!!
Soulmates ARE shown in the charts..theres certain aspects to look for..as far as twinflames..I dont know yet!.I highly doubt they can be of the same sex..(although I do know of someone who swears thru personal experience Im wrong)..I am feeling it needs to be a yin/yang thing..male/female for sure!now..soulmates DEFINITELY can be of the same sex..they can even swap sexes in future lives, in order to grow and understand. Perhaps we DO travel thru many lives with what will be a twinflame in a future plane..I only have doubts about this as I know we can be very close to many souls we have travelled with in past lives..and isnt a twinsoul/flame only ONE soul..or IS IT?? like you say..perhaps its just us getting "back" with God..perhaps this is all just a dream..an illusion..o dont get me started!!

Aries I SO KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!!! It's like you popped inside my mind then and relayed my own thoughts!

Hi Everyone, hope you're all well and happy... wish I had more time to post, but can't at the mo, looking forward to reading all of your amazing thoughts and spirals on this subject.

With you in spirit

Love,
moonglow

thanks to tinkerbell and aries for the response. i'll have to look into that ... the squares & opps & all. thanks again.

Your honor;...
I adopt Moonglows' statement.

Spot on - Aries I sense your definately on the right track, I just don't know which one !

charms

Australdi

Aries I read Saint Germain's "Twin Souls and Soul Mates" and it was so great I gave it to my Twin on his birthday, we're Gem-in-i's I just noticed that SAINT GERMAIN has GEMINI in his name! Kewl

Love,
moonglow

what do you mean.. a book BY st.germaine?? IM confused!!..whatever it is sounds great!

Hello again everyone!! It's seems as if most of us have taken a break from posting on a regular basis. Well, at least I have. It's good to be back!

I loved the story about the kitty and the truck. Tall man/green eyes/kitty... just a few of my favorite things.

Since I'm in the spirit of sharing here's a soulmate story:

8 years ago a beach in Florida, while Hurricane Andrew was changing from a Tropical storm to a full fledged hurricane, 2 people were on this beach. They were the only 2 people on the beach(no one was supposed to be on this beach b/c of the storm) and they only spoke 2 sentences to each other. The scorpio was in the water loving the big waves and the most excellent representation of masculinity she'd ever seen. The capricorn was walking cautiously and pensively on the beach, as only they can!

7 years later, these same 2 people meet at a party. The first(really second) look is all that has to happen to ignite the magic.

A year and a half and 2 continents later the scorpio writes her first song ever, about the capricorn, the same night he flies back to their city.....

Paloma

I feel as though I've met mine.....

Magic

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Higher There Tinkerbell

Well, technically a person called Morgana started da Weave of this Insightful thread.

However,i`ve just noted your `indignation` over da apparent lack of astrological discussion,on your 11:11(Time), Post/Thread from yesterday.

So ,what proceeds this is from da realm of Serendipity...whome i call da Sister of Synchronicity...Her Brother. (ie, a Mystery person was readin this when i logged on...So Bless/Thankhu who ever you are ...4Bringing this full-circle Bare-back2Tink & All at C.E this Present Day.

Aswell, as beeing an absorbing thread...it also deftly Heals 2Birds with 1*Stone by `continuing`/connecting on with Daves Astrological *Reincarnation in Action Pt.5*Thread, concerning Twin-Souls...along with HrH&PD`s Work/thoughts/feelings on da same subject...This thread (2me anyway) also supplies a ton of `connecting` astrological infomation throughout...of witch a lot comes from You Tink!

Anyways,Tink i Hopi...this Serendipitous blast from da past goes a little way 2abateing your fiery indignation ...&astrological `thirst`....1st.

Higher there Opti

One night while having about 90 minutes to wait for the re-start of a movie, as we were a bit late getting there, I was able to browse a bookstore and found my copy of "Venus Trines at Midnight" by Linda Goodman. Also at the same time I chose to buy another book as well. So just posting this in answer to a question after Moonglow said that she had read St. Germains Twin Souls & Soulmates.

Taken from Back Page.


ST. GERMAIN
TWIN SOULS
&
SOULMATES

THE I AM PRESCENCE OF ST. GERMAIN
CHANNELED THROUGH
AZENA RAMANDA AND CLAIRE HEARTSONG

Experiencing Christ-consciousness within yourself, loving unconditionally that which you are as you exist and abide in your reality at this point in time, creates the resonance within your being that attracts the identical essence within the opposite body of soul energy - your soulmate will manifest in physicality as a natural progression and merges with your energy and you with it. And as you merge together closer and closer and drink more and more of one anothers cups, you become One, and you become one anothers strength and one anothers love. As this occurs, you experience what is called enlightenment.
When you experience this alignment, and attunement with the All That Is, the physical expression of your soulmate automatically appears. It appears to pop out of the air and at times it really does. Your twin flame is the identical vibration of the viibration you emit in your personality Self in this your now moment. And if you will recognize that you already embody the principle of love, then you will merge with your soulmate and the merging of soulmates creates miracles.

page opposite index...

When you dispense with the idea of soulmate as an entity who will bring you happiness and when you understand soulmate as the rest of humanity, then the entity~ your soulmate, who will allow you the experience of happiness~ will appear.

ST. GERMAIN