Dear Joy,
What a pleasure to read your post first today! Thank you. Yes, we seem to have some things in common, and to enjoy talking to each other, which we knew without knowing our planets, right?
I have been coming here for about six months I think. I learn the wildest things here--just what I like! Always such nice people to talk to here. I wonder if there are many other websites like this one??
I've been learning astrology very slowly here, bit by bit. I'm very glad you've joined all the talks here and hope to see you a lot in the future.
Love,
Piscesdreamer

Hello Joy....Did you see Tianna's chart?...you asked what she looks like....well, I might be prejudice, but I think she's beautiful...dark hair, dark eyes...Gregory posted a photo of her on one of the forums, a couple years ago..(and then I went off line for awhile)....

Does she get her own way a lot? She WOULD LIKE to get her way more often than she does...but thanks so some great parenting, she is not given in to that much. I'm very grateful that her mom has a little knowldege of astrology (plus some things I've helped her with) and is very aware of some of the challenges she might be in for, raising her.

I have some photos of her on my website, if you'd like to see her..
http://arkangel007.homestead.com/home.html

Pisces Dreamer..............I have Pisces Moon, Venus and Saturn, so I identify with that sign a lot too...(Tianna has Pisces Rising).....as a matter of fact, when I filled out my profile couple years ago, I filled in "dreamer" for my occupation....and it's more true than one might imagine.

Joy, I'll keep you posted on Tianna. I don't have as much contact with her since she moved south...I really miss her...I do have faith that her mom will be guiding her Scorpio energy in a positive direction....and I do realize that's going to be a job....

Peace & Love,
Rainbow~

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Hi Rainbow,
Wow, that's so cool! I'm not even sure why I picked this name, it just came to me suddenly.
Love, Piscesdreamer

wow,I havent checked out this thread in ages!...Rainbow,I too have venus in pisces,DO we not dream of the most perfect love ,of course its only in our dreams! ..and how many times have you fallen for the wrong person,placed him on a pedestal,only to have him come crashing down to reality!!?!? hehe

Rainbow-
I saw Tianna picture. She IS beautiful. I guess because my son's scorpio sun/asc sticks out in my mind, all of the scorpio is a little scary for me. However, after reading all in Dave's section - we might be witnessing the beginning of a major future star. Kind of exciting. Plus, it sounds like her mother matches up well with her. Maybe this is why astro is a good thing - you have some insight and understanding into the person, and are better equipped to help her along the way. Keep us posted.

Joy......thank you.....I will keep you posted, and I am so grateful that I have the advantage of some astro knowledge in understanding this girl....I wish I'd had some knowledge of astrology when my kids were young....but better late than never....*sigh*

Love and Peace,
Rainbow~

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rainbow and aries - We all have venus in pisces; I would like to know what house yours is in?

Me too Joy--Venus in Pisces in 6th house.
Love, Piscesdreamer

hi ladies,mine is almost conjunct the nadir/Ic..end of third house,but possibly in the 4th on other house systems than Koch?!?! Its pisces 6 degrees.

I have Venus in Pisces in the fifth house....it is ll degrees....the Moon is there 9 degreees, and Saturn l8 degrees...*sigh*....

Peace and love,
Rainbow~

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hi Rainbow,this is off topic,but I heard a most wonderful native american musician/spiritualist last night whos words and music resonated totally with me. His name is Robert Mirabal..do you know of him??? I need to take a look at some native spiritualism,Ive had a few signs the last 2 days. I wonder what its meant to show me

Yes,Saturn has the keys!
...but Saturn`s not always talking.

And the 12th house forever remains a mystery

MY 12th HOUSE IS EMPTY...can ANYONE tell me more about this....

ALSO..I have a Venus-Neptune square and I was told that this is a sign of addiction of some sort...if that were the case, it would explain a lot about me(even moreso since my Saturn is in the 5th house)....can someone confirm this for me?

Thanks!!!

[This message has been edited by thegirl (edited 04-10-2001).]

hi,

i have the venus-neptune square also, and i do not have any addictions. i have read in the book "Karmic Astrology" that this aspect denotes an artistic individual who is constantly working to make the symbolism or existence of neptune's idealism of true love, coincide the "realities" of the world.

in other words, we have this picture of what love really is suppose to be like, but find conflict with the world's defintion of love, be it material, power, sex, etc. etc. (i hope this makes sense). as a result, we work even harder to make these things coexist in our lives, and face hardships with well, you know.

i also have an empty 12th house, but i honestly don't know what it is suppose to symbolize.

cheers,

amy

This is a good example of why intuition and experience is needed to do good horoscope interpretation, beyond just the official "meanings" of the different elements. Neptune is the planet of "dreams," but of course this can mean both idealistic dreams AND unrealistic illusions. Since Venus shows what you love, and the square aspect denotes difficulties or obstacles, you can see how both interpretations can be valid.

An overinvolvement in unrealistic illusions IS one symptom of addictive behavior and personality, so an afflicted Neptune IS often a signature of alcoholism or drug addiction. But since Neptune also denotes idealistic aspirations, a Venus square Neptune can mean struggle balancing your personal love experiences with you ideal expectations for love. This is where interpretive skill comes in, seeing which interpretation best fits the particular individual circumstances.

As for the empty 12th house, it has no special significance aside from an absences of 12th house qualities in the personality -- these would be drives or qualities related to feelings of responsibility (or guilt), humanitarian service, institutions and the collective unconscious.

Greg

Thank you very much, it really does make sense..or at least it's starting to!! Ihave these strong urges/desires to do things for people...I wanted to join the Peace Corps when I got out of college and I enjoy being a tutor/mentor...

thank you greg! cheers, amy

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