HIIII BHAGGY PARDNER!!!
yo!here iam with your reading!!heee!Seems to me like u have the cake and are eating it too...so be a lil careful,lest u turn into a hermit!(screeech!really...bhaggy...the cards say it!!)

A three card tarot spread answer to ur question is as follows:

PAST:
(1)The Two of Wands represents opportunity,especially in business. You laid the foundation for a new venture. You had already achieved some success, indicated by the wand fastened securely to the castle wall. Also note the lilies of purity balanced
by the red roses of desire. This shows the balance with which you were approaching your goal. The wand in one hand represents your undertaking and the globe in the other suggests the tremendous potential for success. The character in the image,looking out to sea, suggests trade and could indicate strong partnerships and alliances. You were in the early stages of a prosperous enterprise.

PRESENT:
(2)Enjoying the fulfillment of desire is indicated by the Nine of Cups. You may be in a place in your life where you are comfortable and happy, and are able to enjoy
the many rewards of your past actions. Contentment and luxury are suggested by the imagery of the man,sitting comfortably, enjoying the nine cups arranged
on the banquet table. Life is your banquet, and you've earned the right to enjoy it. In old tradition, the Nine of Cups is the "Wish Card" and was always thought to mean the fulfillment of one's innermost desires.

FUTURE:
(3)The Hermit is the Tenth card in the Major Arcana,and is given the number nine to indicate the pinnacle of enlightenment. He stands atop a cold, snowy mountain peak, at the end of a journey he has made alone. He holds a lantern and gazes down the way he
has traveled, leading any other seekers to what he has attained. The lantern is rich in symbolism; it denotes both his enlightenment and his willingness to aid others to it. It contains a six-pointed star, whicch is comprised of two triangles pointing in opposite directions: one up, one down. This shape reveals more of the Hermit's message: the journey has been inner as well as outer, and his seeking has been within as well as without. He leans on his staff, which is a symbol of his power, making practical use of what he has come to know and master. His
grey cloak indicates that he has synthesized the light and dark aspects of himself for his own benefit.

The Hermit in your future indicates that you will seek guidance. This may be your own "Higher Self" speaking to you, or it may be advice given to you by a trusted friend, or a seasoned professional. It is wise to listen to the wisdom that will be offered, and to your own gut feelings, in the situation. Those who speak from experience will be able to give you some much-needed perspective, as they have been down the path you will be following. The Hermit can also indicate a need to withdraw from the outer world to focus on your innermost self.

Sooooo pardner...did i answer ur question or not?!!!lemme know soooon!and when are we teaming up?
love
shagun.

Hi Victoria!!

Actually,i mailed u your answer but it was an in an attachment format,so ur mailbox did not accept it.well never mind,im giving ur answer here.

THE DEVIL
You viewpoint is dominated by the faults in your friends and associates -pride,arrogance, jealousy, greed, emptiness. While these flaws may exist in others, your current perception of them may be a projection. Do you feel you are living superficially? If so, do something practical. The Devil manipulates us through logic. Don't fight the devil on his own ground. The cycle of negative thinking is best combatted with creative work. Put your
fingers in the clay, the paint, the dish water. Make yourself too busy to be critical.

Take action to correct your errors. By making amends you consciously decide to strive to be a better person while acknowledging your less than perfect human nature.

Hey Victoria!!!dont PANIC!!!the devil in this question simply means...that u could be wrong in ur assumption about ur grandmom.its just supposed to be a 'NO'answer.But i do beleive that this can happen but probably it hasnt happened in ur case.Hey Victoria...just take this reading with a pinch of salt because im not adept at all this.its just something i try at home.

hope i was of some help
love
shagun.

HOWDY DOODY DOO DUDE!$* It's great to connect the net with you tonight Shagun, thanks for suggessting the idea
NUMERO DUO--CARPE DIUM--NUMERO DUO--CARPE DIU
29/11 17/8 19/10 15/6 etc,etc.
11 + 8 10 + 6
19 16
8
just came into my head, I thought I might try it as a chant vibration, then I thought what's the numbers ( as I usually do ) now i'm thinking about the connection with my original 4&8 question and by day 15 character.
Well I do not own or have used Tarot, so I got on the phone immediately to a learned lady, who, I assummed would still be up at this late hour, she was,we had quite a rave over a three hour period, which included the obligatory hour off phone time, which started of with the flick of the electic kettle, and ended up with a combination feel of Tai Chi and Jiu Jitsu that rapidly dawned on me while reaching for a cup. It then slowly but surely developed to be,.. Alright! And then the phone rang.
This is what has resulted in the last 4 hours since reading your reply, Keep it coming, cool dude....and/or
With love and appreciation I acknowledge your work,
self-doubt, can throw a shadow which often disguises the real knowing, this is an unselfish act and I do this because it is the right thing to do, no other reason,simple as that. This shadow can manifest as doubting sincerity.
The two of wands is a welcome ally.

The nine of cups is "cool" I can handle that?

The Hermit, the being on your own sort of dude, was one of my worst scenario options.
( I just had this other thought while making for the kettle, although this should really go in the web site suggestion thread, but why not have just the one thread, easy to follow completely flexible, and then have links* to the topics discussed, which of cause can take on mini-study/pleasure groups, but one that has left the main thread,the main thread which other surfers ride.
*may involve a split screen format.
Oh well back to the kettle).
I have often considered finding myself alone, this is not a problem, unless acccompanying the aloneness is the realisation of making "the" wrong decision.This seems to be a "biggy for me".So this Hermit card indicated to me that if I live as noblely and true as possible that my centre will remain my centre in all situations, this was also envidenced in the martial art ah ha moment, coming at a time when I have an opportunity to train/train with one or two student/teachers directly in the arts.
I had made "THE" decision for me, before this reading, this reading has been powerful,now lies the weaving, forming, exchanging,shaping,thanks Shagun.
MAKE DECISION-MANAGE-HARMONY-PERSEVERENCE
AND PLENTY OF STAMINA AHHA AHHA.
gOODNIGHT FFOM capslock......<>^<>
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Alias "the Bag man"Bhaggy,.

Hi all!

it's great how everyone's helping each other out. the threads are very interesting and i'm learning so much just from reading them. as for baggy and shagunj (sorry if i spelled your names wrong), i think it's a great idea to have volunteer fortune-telling, if i were adept in the art of divinity, i would defininitely be volunteering. how did you guys just start the tarot. i was thinking of just buying a deck and follow the directions, but i'm a little sceptical with that. i feel like i don't really trust myself with them. did you guys read some books, and go from there? i would like to start astrology, numerology, or tarot some time, but it all seems sooo hard. in the meantime, can i put in a request for a mini-reading from either baggy or shagunj. do i just personally e-mail either of you, my question, or how does it work? let me know. i would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks!

Love,
skylar

Hiii Skylah!!!

Lovely to have u on this site!!!!

You could mail me personally if u want and ill try mu best to answer ur question.But oh my!yknow i myself am a amateur!i just interpret the cards the way i feel intuitively so i think its VERY easy to read tarot that way,none other.And i really hope my answers are true!!!!Yes and u could get a book on tarot.It comes really useful.best of luck!!

Hiii bhaggy!!!!where are u numero duo?!!!!
love
shagun.

Hi everyone! This is a very interesting topic and I wanted to add my two cents (and some odd change) to the mix.

In regards to the I-Ching: I've consulted it regularly for more than 20 years. For the first 10 or so years I thought of it as a fortune telling 'device' and asked it to tell me what my future held.

At some point, it dawned on me, one of those ah-ha! experiences, that what was really happening was that I was having a conversation with a trusted friend/advisor. I don't think that a true friend would tell you, "you SHOULD do this or that." They would instead say, "well, it looks to me like you have a couple of options here. If you do "X" then "This" could happen, and on the other hand, if you do "Y," then "That" could happen. Then it's up to me to do the right thing.

Essentially, I have learned from these conversations with the I-Ching, how to be more objective about my life and the choices that I make. I also learned that life is a never ending cycle of changes and there are appropriate actions (or non-actions, as the case may be) to be taken at appropriate times.

I also believe that the more "real" information that one has at one's disposal, the easier it is to know what these actions are and when to apply them. So, the big picture, for me is whatever feels right intuitively and this includes the I-Ching, along with a well interpreted astrological chart, and an awareness of all the other aspects, such as numbers, colors, etc.

For some reason, and I'm sure it's just been my own personal experience, the Tarot never resonated well with me. Anyone who has ever interpreted the cards for me, has come across in a way that puts me off. I guess I like to know my options, as opposed to being told what will "happen" to me. Again, this is just personal experience, not a put-down of the Tarot.

Hi, Garyb! Nice to have your valuable input here. I appreciate your wise insight about how to view the I-Ching. I too had my own difficulty with Tarot readers, but I'm trying to give Tarot in general another shot now. However, I'm also very interested in I-Ching. As a student of Tai Chi, it only makes sense! I'm hoping you will share some of your favorite books about I-Ching. Also, what do you use (I've read there are many options)? How often do you do a reading? How do you pose questions?

Any answers would be most valued!

KJS

Thanks for this perspective, Gary. I think the "counsel of a wise friend" attitude toward divination of all kinds is a very productive way of looking at it, because, as you say, it puts the emphasis on your own choices and free will rather than presenting you with a supposed picture of unavoidable fate. An analogy I like to use is that the I Ching, like Astrology and the Tarot, is like a "psychic weather report." If you know there's a storm brewing in one direction but clear and sunny skies in another, it helps you make an informed decision without taking away your free will.

Incidentally, I have had excellent results with the Tarot over the years, but I think that may be because I use it in relation to the alchemical, astrological and numerological symbolism it embodies ... again, more for insight and reflection than for "fortune-telling."

KJS, fellow T'ai Chi player, there are probably as many good books about the I Ching as there are about astrology, to say nothing of dozens of translations of the oracle itself. I've used many, but I always come back to the old standby Wilhelm/Baynes translation, which really embodies that mystical-but-commonsense Taoist perspective that is the foundation of T'ai Chi. I almost always phrase my questions in terms of "please give me insight into the challenges and opportunities of this situation ..." and it speaks to me VERY directly.

Thanks, Greg! Loved your "psychic weather report" analogy. I'll have to get a copy of the Wilhelm/Baynes translation. With all of the wisdom you've been adding to this site, I'll say what's good enough for you is good enough for me

KJS

HiShagun my numero duo buddy, i'm still here just not so vocal, heaps of work and other enjoyable activities have been keeping the silver fingers of the keybooard.
I'ts great spending a few hours just running through the threads, almost like a family reunion after being "absent" for a few days.
Gooday Skylah6,Can't help you much with the Tarot as I've yet to discover that world myself, but the Runes,Numbers and the I ching on many occassions have led me into the realms of confusion and indecision, which for me was fundamental in learning the accuracy of the tools which I was using. Don't be afraid to experiment, or to trust what you are interpreting, life will give you the correct analysis, all you have to do is fine tune.
I believe it states that the I Ching (and other devices) are used by the "wise" to "avoid the tyranny of events", a statement I must admit I've always enjoyed.As for books on the tarot, on another thread somewhere there were different packs to check out maybe you could also suggest some good reading material.
Greg, dear friend, this could be my first direct correspondance to you,my memory fails me sometime. I like the way you write and express yourself, so add a little more of that majic and please give me directions to the gift shop, I appear to have lost my way.
As always everyone, it's great to be here, but now i'm gone. Bhaggy.
Ps. How do you get those little yellow smiley faces.

Hiii Bhaggy!!

oh its glad to see ur witty,bright self back on the site!!
But i dont think we are having much work here these days...so my numero duo buddy,i guess we can relax!!!
love
shagun.

Gregory,
Since you seem to be very familiar with Taoism and Taoist principles, I was wondering if there are good books you can recommend on , not only the I Ching , but on Taoism itself. I've read Benjamin Hoff's "Tao of Pooh" and "Te of Piglet" , wonderful primers in themselves, I find the practicality of Taoism quite appealing actually.

Thanks,
Aurora

just thought I would bring this thread to the fore again, as there is some very interesting discussion here on divining.

You sure started a lot of fascinating threads Shagun,...

Love

Michael