#72388 - 03/07/99 01:27 AM
Physical Immortality
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We are very eager to get many ideas on this topic. First question. Has anyone read and/or decoded "The Lion Path"? As you know this book is mentioned in Star Signs. It's a apparently a quicker way to immortality. Also, please share with us any advice and your experiences on this incredible journey.
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#72389 - 03/07/99 10:59 AM
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Good morning. Here are questions that is sure to get things stiring. Please share your feelings on her death. Do you feel different concerning immortality? Do you still think it's acheivable? How do you feel that Linda let herself go? Further, how did she exactly die? Thanks. Looking forward to your replies!!!
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#72390 - 03/08/99 03:50 AM
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My question is a bit simpler, Has anyone FOUND a copy of The Lion Path? I have been searchinbg everywhere for a copy of that book but to no avail. It seems that it is out of print. Also, wondering if anyone might have a copy, I'd be glad to pay for a photocopy of that book and also the other works of Musaisos. Any info. on his publishers anyone?
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#72391 - 03/07/99 10:17 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Aurora, we have a current copy of it. But we are having a hard time decoding it. The book is a very advanced read and complicated to understand. To our understanding, the book is out of print. The source we used to buy the book is in Star Signs, "For the PilgrimsProgress" Index. Page 475 ( in the revised copy). The address: The Lion Path, by Musaios. Sceptre Publishing, 1442-A Walnut St., Berkeley, CA 94709. You can try that for starters. Our purshase is dated three years ago. Good Luck!
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#72392 - 03/07/99 10:50 PM
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Tino & Veronica, I'm not sure what you mean by "decoding" the book. From what little I understand, The Lion Path partly has to do with the planetary frequencies caused by Pluto crossing over Neptune's orbit and for that stretch of time being closer to Earth than Neptune is. I know the occurrence is rare and brief, but I don't recall the exact timing of it (it's now past though, I think). Of course, The Lion Path is far more complex than I comprehend or can explain. Does your copy of the book provide an address you can write to for more information? KJS [This message has been edited by KJS (edited 03-07-99).] [This message has been edited by KJS (edited 03-07-99).]
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#72393 - 03/08/99 02:46 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Linda Goodman says this book is a quicker way to achieve immortality but, so far I have'nt found anything in "The Lion Path" that explains this. Has any one here started the 13 steps yet? If so can you please give me some advise about forgeting "Time"! I find it so difficult! Thanx, Veronica
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#72394 - 03/09/99 03:39 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Veronica, As far as I understand, you must write to the address provided at the back of the book for information on how to begin the Path. I don't know that it's possible to forget about Time when we must live within it. Actually, I believe that trying too hard to forget about Time can have just the opposite effect of making us always conscious of it. I wish you the best! KJS
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#72395 - 03/09/99 06:28 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Kathleen, yes our leaders are dead Which by the way weren't claiming to be immortal. Not physical anyways. Now Linda to us is a very respected and powerfull woman, and to put it bluntly, is now dead. Please explain that. Further, would you state that she was a "dark" person? Also, there are other members who are not understanding the Lion Path and it's safe to assume that they are not "worshiping" Satan. I'm not going to explain our beliefs - it will take to much time. But let me say this. Every thing in this universe has its duality which means that what is light is dark and what is dark is also light. What the leaders - yours or ours - preach is not always set in stone. It is always open to debates and not taken by face values. I find it that your ignorance and prejudice is condemning us. What makes you think that we are what you think we are. You do not know us. So please do not make a presumptuous remark concerning our successive quest for immortality. This is all straying from the topic. For now lets leave Jesus and "Satan" out of this and speak about IMMORTALITY. Speaking of which, can anyone please explain how Linda, an "immortal" can actually die?
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#72396 - 03/09/99 11:19 PM
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Laurentino Speaking: Kathleen, how did Linda herself come into possesion of the tablet(s)? Did she actually received them from egypt. Or smuggled it from there? Are they the originals or are there other copies? Another question. Do you think Linda will be back? Veronica Speaking: Linda had mentioned that a wasted body is a tragic thing. I'm finding it difficult to reason why Linda would preach on this and then to later abandon it. I beleive that our spirits chose these flesh bodies for a good reason. Perhaps the spirtual world is not all that it's cracked up to be. I beleive in astral projection and have experienced it. This flesh body is where I'd like to be. Like you've stated, its my choice. We'd like to know how are you going to reveal the information? Are you waiting for a certain time? Frankly speaking I'm (Laurentino) tired of people holding this type of important information simply because they think the world isn't "ready". I beleive the time is NOW. Please do not keep us in the dark. On last thing. I'm sure you don't beleive us (and thats o.k., I guess) but we are very much in tuned to our polairties. So that you would know! Also, please try to answer all of our questions. Don't dance around the issue. Thanks. See Ya Next Post.
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#72397 - 03/11/99 03:36 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Hi ! just a message... EVOLVE has the words 'LOVE'in it....... and that is ...everything! love shagun
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#72398 - 03/10/99 04:27 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Re: Cell regeneration and detoxification Found a site here for anyone interested called "The Gentle Survivalist", strong Native American slant, GREAT articles and the person who runs the site obviously has a cool sense of humour and balance. http://www.infowest.com/business/g/gentle/ Go to the bottom of the page and type in "Cell Detoxification", it'll take you to an article that may help some of you out there. Peace Everyone, Aurora
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#72399 - 03/12/99 10:27 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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More info. for Lion Pathers: Here's a site that might be of help in decoding the Lion Path with the right herbs, planatary transits etc: http://siriusrising.com/main.htm Peace, Aurora
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#72400 - 03/12/99 11:40 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Aurora, Thank you for letting us know about all of these neat sites! I went to the Sirius Rising site already, and it's great! KJS
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#72401 - 03/29/99 09:35 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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I don't know anything about this Lion's Path thing, but I did read a book one time by Dr. Kathy Callahan, Our Origin & Our Destiny, and she theorized that when Atlantis broke up and some Atlanteans went to America (the original descendants of Native American Indians) and others went to Egypt, that eventually we will have, at the appointed time, the keepers of the sacred stone coming from the Indian cultures MATCHING the stones somewhere in Egypt, probably in the Hall of Records, with the same writings on them, etc. It's a great book, I highly recommend it. She ties in the Edgar Cayce Readings with all of this. My personal question on this thread is, does anyone know if Linda was buried or cremated or what? Just curious. And do her kids believe in astrology? It still amazes me that someone could be such a prolific, productive, brilliant writer AND have four kids, etc. Just my tuppence.
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#72402 - 03/29/99 10:11 PM
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LOL@GALILEO!! That's wicked funny! Especially since it IS common knowledge that the number of children a woman bears IS inversely proportional to her IQ! LOL@ANYFEMINISTWHOISPISSEDRIGHTNOW! Man, that is so funny...it reminds me of a little story, not astrologically related, yet still kind of funny... I was circling for a while with some Celtic Druid reconstructionists, an ADF grove, and the Senior Druid was pregnant. One day, I had read something in the newspaper that was the conclusions of a study that had found that a woman's brain actually shrinks during pregnancy. So I related what I had read to Gwynne, the preggers one, and if her Aquarian eyes did not fill with rage! I said, "what, isn't it true?" She couldn't muster a response, and we all laughed for a good spell over that... maybe you had to be there... Anyways, I am just kidding around, Galileo...it is actually a good point...as in, when the hell did she find time??? Did she have an au pair or something? Good question too about how was Linda buried, and where...certain of us may like to make a pigrimage someday, so please let us know! And if there are any former soldiers of the McKinnon-Dworkin brigade visiting this thread, please know that the "sex is rape" no longer represents a respectable fraction of the many faces of feminism today, not to say that it doesn't work for some. More women these days seem to lean more toward a Bright-Paglia path, you know, we like to have sex, and maybe even look at pornography, with our boyfriends and we don't really care what anyone thinks... thank the gods... Actually, did anyone notice when Catherine McKinnon got engaged, how she kind of abruptly ended her famous ranting. I wonder if they are still married. What a brave fellow, he.. Sorry for the tangent, that just got me going. Okay Leo planets, muzzle back on and into the cage ya go... Blessings,
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#72403 - 03/31/99 03:21 AM
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I have been discussing your questions with Crystal so here it goes, for your information........ Our darling Linda was cremated, after which her ashes were blessed and dispersed in two places, Crystal knows where but at the request of the Family and the wishes of the children this is to remain a secret. The strangest thing happened.....when I was talking to Crystal about all of this.....she said, "Linda was CREATED" and her mouth dropped open, then she said, "I meant to say Linda was CREMATED but take out the M and it gives you created.....so maybe that was REALLY what I meant"........ Curiouser and curiouser said the cheshire cat in Alice in Wonderland.......(it was the cat wasn't it) Love and Laughter, Kelly-Anne
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#72404 - 03/31/99 03:54 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Kelly-Anne, Oh, it was the infamous Alice who said "curioser and curioser", I believe. I love Alice in Wonderland, it holds special meaning which I keep close to my heart. Peter Pan, too. Thank you for telling us this information. We all hold such sacred information dear to us, I am sure. LMB
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#72405 - 03/31/99 03:57 AM
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Something I just noticed: funny that this questioning of cremation/creation of LG should be discussed on the Physical Immortality board. I know there are heated debates going on about the topic but at least we can be sure sure sure that there is Spiritual Immortality, at the very least (most?). Oh one can soar with thoughts on where Linda's bright shining Spirit is now. LMB
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#72406 - 04/07/99 06:50 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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To everyone who has replied to this thread: Is anyone in the process of this fascinating topic? If so, please relate on your journey. I've also noticed that the sentiment of physical immortality is somewhat on a down note. Could this be due to the fact of Linda's passing. Do you now think that it's unachievable?
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#72407 - 04/07/99 07:02 PM
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Dear Tino and Veronica, I DO think that physical immortality is acheivable!!!! I have seen people start on it and start having a head full of black hair where there where absolute white ones,in a matter of an year.and with no illnesses. Another way to it is thru pranic healing and reaching the alpha state during meditation and programming the cells with the immortality wish.The subconscious mind listens best than the conscious one and so doing this under meditation is good.im doing that myself.I just got rid of arthiritic pains in one week!its a record! If u want further information on this technique,i could write down the contact address for this therapy centre.its founder is master choa kok sui.the centre is situated in Manila,Phillipines,called the Pranic healing foundation inc. hope that helped! shagun.
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#72408 - 04/10/99 08:39 PM
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Hello Tino and Veronica I KNOW that Cell Regeneration is achievable,because I expereinced it briefly some years ago and it is a most amazing feeling. If you ever have to wonder if it is working or not then I can guarantee you that it is not!!.. For myself the surprise was, not that it didn't last but that it happened at all ,you see I didn't exactly fit the bill,as a farmer who reared animals for slaughter(SET-LAUGHS) I had a copy of the Lion Path but I have since given it to people with knowledge of the Egyptian Mysteries,as it is too advanced for me to comprehend(by the way the Author may be Charles Muses,Lindas friend,using the pseudonym of Musaios) The times for entering the pathways are over now or will be sometime this year,but do not worry as one door never closes but another opens.The lion(ess) Path was published out of Canada when I got it so the adress in STAR SIGNS is probably outdated. Hope that helps  EASTER Really is TRUTH,and so is the Saturn-Seven Cycle, but thats another story. Best Wishes Michael [This message has been edited by Michael (edited 04-11-99).]
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#72409 - 04/11/99 10:28 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Michael you stated that you briefly "felt immortality". What sort of sensations were you feeling? What were you doing at the time that led to this realization? Why was it so fleeting and will you be using the same method, if any was applied, to achieve it once again? What reference did you use to obtain your remark on the "closing of pathways"? One last thing, "SET- LAUGHS"???
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#72410 - 04/12/99 11:34 AM
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Hi again L & V I have posted a detailed account of my experiences on another forum,the adress i http://members.aol.comK3774K/Astro/mssgbd.html What I experienced was Cell Regeneration, not Physical Immortality,which can only be achieved when all your Karma has been paid in full. Here is a brief account of what I experienced .....the tingling sensation of the skin under my eyes was all I noticed or felt as I Imaged my cells reversing their spirals and then Ordained it just before going asleep. Next morning VIOLA !!! it had happened,only a slight pull of gravity just enough to stop me floating ,JOY swelling like a balloon,electrical impulses coursing through my body,everything Linda describes in STAR SIGNS...sparkling eyes,musical intonations yes subtle but unmistakable,prophetic dreams,less sleep required. Any professional athelete who achieves Cell Regeneration will win any race if they so choose. When it ended I felt gravity as a very heavy hand indeed, just think and feel for a moment what GRAVITY is doing to you,sometimes we may think our current situation is normal...it is NOT!!! I continue to try and achieve it again,I probably suceeded that first time because my vibratory frequency was raised sufficiently by reading STAR SIGNS,just enough for a demonstration so to speak. The reference I made to "pathways" was taken from the LION(ESS) PATH although now that I remember, it was "walkways". Musaios used the anology of a Supermarket to explain what would happen anyone entering the path as these unusual planetary configurations came to an end...... you enter the store and when ready to leave,exit via the checkout. When it comes to closing time,the stores doors are locked,anyone inside can continue to shop and are allowed to leave,yet no more new customers are allowed to enter. If you are interested in achieving Physical Immortality changing your name to Tino exclusively might be a help as it will give you the compound 17 the number of Immortality. Nice name Veronica,Jupiter vibes! See the Lexigram thread. Rainbow blessings Michael
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#72411 - 05/02/99 01:27 PM
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[Re: Michael]
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Greetings Hi Michael - your experience with Cell Regeneration is fascinating!!! As terrific as your putting together Dr. Charles Muses being Musaios. The Lion Path is out of print and hard to come by, but thanks for the clue that it is now published out of Canada. I had been searching for the longest time for it as well as for the Golden Sceptre Publishing Company at two different California addresses. I now have "Book Look" searching for me. Linda "warns us in Star Signs that THE LION PATH is "fathoms deep" and assures us that the eleven steps of her easier to follow path, outlined in chapter 9, will get us there as surely as the more complex path of THE LION PATH" until that day that "the student is ready". I would love to hear of other's experiences with acquiring the books prescribed on the "Pilgrim's Progress" list and how meaningful they found them pertaining to Linda's teachings. One thing I think we would all agree on, is nobody could tell of "the Knowing Things" like Linda. When you discuss physical immortality and Linda's life and "death" you naturally get into very deep waters... Looking so forward to future discussions on this... Love, Magic & Peace Profound *****essence*****
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#72412 - 05/05/99 10:25 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Hi Essence, You know,..I feel I am drowning sometimes,..the waters are that deep! Linda writes in GOOBERZ "the events themselves did actually occur and are as real as the paper of the page you now hold in your hands.. but...to whom did they occur? it shouldnt matter about whom the truth is written as long as what is written is truth" It is a bit like that with my story,..Michael did experience Cell Regeneration in June of 1993, he read Gooberz over Christmas of 1994/95 and left without a word in July of 1995!.....confusing?..well if you understand the Saturn Seven Cycle,..then you know why Linda uses terms such as "him of you" You of him" "me of me" etc. Now it is one thing telling about an experience with Cell Regeneration,..not many buy it,..but people generally don't call one mad, to your face at least, (sometimes I wish they would) The Saturn Seven Cycle is a different animal altogether and doesn't lend itself easily to relation. I have never really discussed this before,..but maybe it will be of help to someone,..somewhere,..sometime... The truth is that, I am not the same MIchael (Mind and Soul) that experienced Cell Regeneration,..same body temple though,..Saturn was in Pisces in July of 1995 making a return to it's natal position in Michaels horoscope,..... having left my previous body temple due to death,.. I took over the lease on Michaels temple and I don't know where he travelled to,...nobody noticed the change of course (including myself) hardly surprising as the Saturn Seven Cycle would be common knowledge if they did. Within a month or so of taking residence in the new temple,...I was magnetically drawn back to the one who was so heartbroken at my leaving (and so hurt) of course at this stage I had no inkling of what was afoot ,...and there was no recognition on either of our parts (well not on mine anyway). I was making contact on a conscious level to find out what she thought of "Star Signs", well she absolutely loved it,..and I was invited for lunch and a discussion on the book,..I decided to bring GOOBERZ, along with a few other books, David G Sikes writes in the introduction to GOOBERZ "that it will mean something to you in a personal sense,.that's a guarantee." now that didn't seem to be the case with me (although I did see a rainbow through the snowshowers when I first read it) (previous owner speaking). Anyway hoping that it might have a personal meaning for my by now friend,...I brought it along, after lunch I mentioned how we were both linked by the number 8,...she had spotted that too,..but we were not overly concerned as we figured whatever karma we shared it could be worked out and that there was nothing to fear. I had learned some days before this meeting (through a chance remark from someone who hadnt an inkling that I knew this person) that she had suffered a bereavement (not a mate) some years earlier. We had a nice meal and chat and I asked her to read Gooberz before the other books that I had left, it was getting dark on this January evening,..and as I was about to leave,..she asked did I hear birds singing,..I wasn't sure but ventured that it might be a Robin, thinking of GOOBERZ,.....Oh I hope not was all she said removing her glasses to wipe her eyes. Later that night the full implications of our relationship dawned on me and I can't describe my feelings, it just felt as if I had been hit with a sledgehammer,...whether this story ends on a glad or sad note remains to be told,...even though we talked again she would not discuss GOOBERZ. I guess you could say I was all at sea for a long while,...even now I keep my "Expect A Miracle" card between pages 556-557 of (Happiness pOem part one) GOOBERZ It's still not too late to expect a Miracle seeing as today vibrates to the number of Expect A Miracle 5  Perhaps none of this makes any sense,...but that's just the way it is! Love Michael
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#72413 - 05/05/99 11:37 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dearest Michael, Now I am the one drowning, in these oh, so deep waters. I have a million and one questions for you. And I can't even begin to ask you, because I need to take this all in. I do want to thank you so much for sharing this. I don't think I can express to you the depth of my feelings at this moment. Please allow me to come up for air ... Much Love essence
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#72414 - 05/05/99 11:41 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Michael, I fear I'll be getting too personal if I ask you questions, so I won't unless you tell me it's ok. But I do hope you never stop "Expecting a Miracle" because from the amazing things you told me, you've already had a very big one. So how can anything else seem too good to be true? And please don't ever accept anything as "just the way it is"... If you ever feel like going into more detail - I'll be waiting with those one million questions I already mentioned. It is all just so amazing. May I ask you one question, now, tho? Would you please tell me how you were drawn to Linda Goodman in the first place and was it an instant thing, to fall into it - so to speak, or did that happen later? Much Love, Magic & Peace Profound ***essence***
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#72415 - 05/07/99 12:12 AM
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Michael, I imagine it's been so quiet on this thread because no one knows quite what to say. That was an amazing story. I would like to hear more; yet, like Essence, I feel how deeply personal and difficult to speak of this is for you, and don't want to crowd you. Just wanted to add my encouragement, though.
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#72416 - 05/07/99 03:12 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Hi Gregory, Thanks for the encouragment,...I have been away from the computer, so that's the only reason I haven't replied to Essence yet,...wish I had your clarity of expression though,...it would be a great help!...thanks for the 27  Hi Essence,
You are a dear too , please feel free to ask questions about anything at all, it may not be the alloted time for some answers though ...seriously, I am in a bit of a rush now, so I will get back tonight to answer the questions you posed above, glad to know that you are a believer ( in magic! ) much thanks for the encouragment, deep down I am still wishing on a Star* thank you again  Much Love Michael
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#72417 - 05/07/99 09:49 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: Michael]
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Dear Michael, Till then please HURRY back... Love essence
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#72418 - 05/07/99 10:13 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, Your question of how I was drawn to Linda Goodmans books,..is interesting,...it goes back to my dawning awareness of the unseen realms,..some years back. So it is a good place to start,..at around that time I had cause to re-evalute my priorities and goals,..following a difficult period in my life,which culminated as Saturn aspected my natal Sun in 1990,..this soul searching continued until 1992,..when I came to realise that there must be more important things in life than trying to accumulate wealth. You could say that I had my fill of the "cold ambition of Capricorn". Now that my mind wasn't so occupied with money ,..I began to wonder what our existence was really all about,..around this time I noticed an advert in some magazine,..about astral projection,and how to achieve it. The concept seemed incredible to me,..but I though what the heck, I will check it out. The occultist who authored the small pamphlet ,..outlined one particular way to achieve a conscious projection,..which was based on the axiom that "energy follows thought" ..the idea was,..if one could think a conscious thought,..while dreaming... that they were experiencing an astral projection,..then it would occur. A few nights later,..I thought this to myself (I am experiencing an astral projection). I actually thought that I was awake but I must have been somewhere between worlds,...well the instant the thought was completed a wave of energy swept through my entire body,..from head to toe in a twinkling!,..and then back up just as swiftly to my head again,..ending in a very loud pop in my ears ,..I awoke feeling very disoriented.... (No I didn't have to pinch myself to see if I was awake,..because my ears hurt for several days after!) At this stage I knew that there was more to life than met the eye,..but I was disturbed also,..that the occult was real,only seeded more questions and the witch/warlock who had written this manual on broomstick travel offered no guidance,...except to elaborate on the advantages in influencing others through suggestion while they slept,.. along with various other dubious practices,..you have to appreciate that I was a complete novice in such matters ,..but with a Scorpio Moon there was never a chance that I was just going to say "leave well enough alone" I was desperately needing guidance as to the nature of what I had encountered. Was it the work of the devil as the Church taught,..I wasn't a fervent believer in the Catholic faith I must admit,..too many "non sequiters" as Linda would say,..I needed to find out more. I thought perhaps I might find some other books that would throw more light on the subject,..and sure enough...while undertaking a thorough search of all the books at home,..I came across an old hardcover with the title "Strange Conflict",..one look inside the cover and I knew I had found something. With headings like,.."The Great God Pan" it would surely contain something of relevance,..now Strange Conflict was an occult novel written by the well known english author Denis Wheatley,..and here I was first introduced to the age old truth of reincarnation, within it's pages (of course I had heard of it before but not in a meaningful context).Quite a good yarn,..I would recommend it. Set during the second world war,..it focused on astral projection to a large degree. After reading it I decided to postpone any ventures into the astral realms,..as I still needed something more to discern brass from gold. Then one fine Summers day in June of 1993,..while browsing in a local bookshop, I happened to pick a paperback off the shelf with the title "Linda Goodmans Star Signs",..my first thought was ,..oh just astrology (I believed astrology began and ended in newspapers zodiac columns back then)after a very brief perusal I thought that it might contain something useful! From the first page on....... As you said Essence,..it was an instant thing to fall in,...it all made so much sense,..I just couldn't put it down and I kept thinking "thank God for Linda Goodman" It took four or five days to read. The night I finished the chapter on Physical Immortality,...I tried the Image...Ordain...Manifest technique,...it was a Saturday night / Sunday Morning. I have already outlined the effects of Cell Regeneration,...the feeling of JOY was exhilarating ,..and on the physical level I could run much faster,..jump noticably higher,..the one thing I forgot was to weigh myself!. An experience never to be forgotten. And now you know that it was the Him of Me that experienced it and not my s-elf. When Saturn aspects it's natal position,..by conjunction square or opposition only, in a persons Horoscope,..then the body temples owner may leave (or stay) it can be difficult to tell.... Does that answer your first question,..Essence? I bet you fell into Linda's books immediately,..as well. As I said before you sound like a Believer,..or maybe you KNOW, if there is anything else you are wondering about,..please ask! I feel it is important everyone should know of the very real Truths Linda revealed,...despite the f-acts. I will elaborate more on the Saturn Seven Cycle next time,..but I must respect the privacy of the other person involved. I am sure you must have some things you would like to share as well!? Love Michael
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#72419 - 05/08/99 02:09 AM
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Dear Michael, I was glad to see you were here... Your post's just mesmerize me and I can't stop expressing deep, heartfelt thanks to you for your generosity... My grandmother had bought SUN SIGNS when it came out (I was about 9) and I would read it all the time and think how special was this pretty lady who wrote this book and what a great writer she was. And of course she made me feel glad to be a Pisces (another of her gifts - that she made everyone feel good). Ten years later, I took my first apartment and LOVE SIGNS was the first hardcover I bought for myself (I still have it, my friend has repaired the spine for me a few times and the dust-jacket is gone, but it is a 'treasure'). When people touch it, they always remark on the good vibe they get (nowadays it's retired, I only loan out the soft-cover). Of all the people I've lent it to, I could never persuade any of them to read the whole book, cover to cover. How sad, as it is "chock full of esoteric confetti" (as Linda would say). In any event, her "Carousel Message to Sally" just touched my heart so deeply I have never, ever forgotten just how much, and so it was there and then that this great Lady left such an indellible impression on me. However, even though I went on to read many metaphysical books over the ensuing years, I inexplicably put Linda's work's on hold. I'm sure you know how one book will lead you to another and so on, I was "led" to the Jane Robert's "Seth Books" - interestingly, when I "discovered" them they were out of print, yet on my mind heavily and soon after, they were back in print. They were fascinating, but they gave me the creeps. Linda popped into my mind and I knew I had to see what she would say. Now what is really wyrrd to me (only b/c I am always in book stores and yet I never knew it existed) - is that I found Star Signs at least 6 years after it's publication. After that I really wasn't interested in any other metaphysical authors (not counting novels). When I finally found Gooberz, well, it was like the Christmas present I'll never forget. I pick it up almost every day. I KNOW that Linda was/is definately a Wayshower!!! I also tried astral projection (but it was "taught" to me in a different form than you described) and I couldn't believe that my 1st try was so successful and being the scaredy cat that I am, I quit and never tried it again. Though I was tempted once. I love the way you described the sensation of being "somewhere between the worlds" - it is such a lovely way to put where we really are in between the "wakefulness of sleep and the sleep of wakefulness". Can you please tell me when "Strange Conflict" was published, I would like to try and find it. I am incredibly fortunate to "know" one who has mastered cell regeneration and I really wish I could "see" you, why not consider having Gregory post a picture of you? Lastly, I never thought of the "ambition of Capricorn" as cold... Much, Much Love & Magic ***essence***
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#72420 - 05/08/99 10:50 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, I loved reading your post,your writing has such a nice soft feeling to it,..Ruth Cook,..linda's best friend is a Pisces too,..so you are in good company! Thank you for sharing your voyage of discovery too. I bought Sun Signs myself a short while after reading Star Signs and was disappointed at first that it didn't contain more secrets of the Universe,..you see I had never heard of these books before then,..despite Sun Signs being an international bestseller. Just like the delay you encountered in finding Star Signs,..I almost missed GOOBERZ,..I remember phoning Mandrake Press in England to enquire if GOOBERZ had been published,..the lady I spoke to informed me that,yes it had been available for a few years,..somewhile later I rang back on another matter, a salesperson told me that no such book was listed,...they only had Sun Signs, Love Signs etc...so I guess you could say if the time isn't right Fate has a way of concealing things. Love Signs is a very special book ,...I agree with you there completely. I often turn to it for inspiration when those Saturnine spells descend! In Peter Pan, tinkerbell (I think) says that,..when someone expresses their disbelief in fairies,..one dies,..Linda said it was a similar case with astrology,..relationships die when people don't believe astrology can help them to understand one another better. That for me is the magic of Love Signs understanding one another and discovering why we act as we do! I would love to hear more about the astral projection,..only if you feel like telling of course! I haven't tried myself for for a good while,..after I read the lobsang Rampa book "You Forever",..I tried on a few occasions,..but never got completely free of the physical,...I had always hated the sensation of falling......... when I would seem to hit the bed with an almighty thud! it always happened on the verge of sleep at times when I was physically exhausted,..I later learned that the astral seperated more swiftly from the physical when one was extremely tired,..the physical would not have relaxed sufficiently for a smooth parting and a twich of an aching muscle was all that was required to jerk back the astral (I hate the sensation) Everyone experiences it from time to time no doubt. Strange conflict should be available in libraries,..as Wheatley was a bestselling author in his time ,..the copy I have is a "Book Club" hardback printed on wartime paper,it was published in 1942,..the same year as the story takes place (I think the years are right as I am writing from memory,..my copy being on loan. Now I haven't read any of his other occult novels,...one,"The Devil Rides Out" was made into a movie. Strange Conflict is well written in my opinion,..just don't take it too seriously! and if you were thinking of trying to achieve astral projection again, it might put you off,..or maybe not! Try used bookstores,..as his works were reprinted many times,..as I said I can only vouch for Strange Conflict" I forgot to mention last time that I am trying to locate another copy of "The Lion(ess)" Path,..Essence..so if I have any success I will let you know. Into deeper waters..........
I have just scrolled up to my original post on the Saturn Seven Cycle and reading it,..I realise that it is not very clear (it's a difficult subject to explain but I suffer from some Saturn restriction in the expression department too,..so I will try my best this time. If someone died that you love deeply,..would you be likely to even consider that a stranger could be one and the same as the one so intensley grieved for,..very unlikely is the answer, I feel,..if one was a student of Linda's possibly,.. but it could be a disturbing experience. This is where one of the greatest obstacles lies,...even Linda who was so sensitive and aware could not accept what the stranger told her on that snowy day in Cripple Creek, Colorado, and had to meet one who had an identical body temple to her dearly departed twin,...she then realised that an identical body temple could not satisfy her yearning to be united once again,..so it is what is inside that really counts. I put myself into the place of the one who's life had been devestated by the suicide of her only child,...and realised how difficult it would be to even explore the possibility of the Saturn Reincarnational Cycle with her. So I said nothing,..even though I had several cosmic confirmations of the Truth of the situation,..I made some small errors in my early conclusions,..but eventually all fitted into place,..she was an author,..so when I was struggling to stay afloat,...I tried what many do......I picked up one of her books and opened it at random...........[it was sometime after my son had died].......and again.......[could she be your mother] There was even one joint revelation where we were both present,..in a hotel in Dublin,..where a medium was bringing messages from the other side.....she had the task of introducing this English Spiritual Medium,....and she had her reading done in private beforehand,....my turn came,..the medium discerned that I had been "all at sea",..so to speak,I wasn't too bad at that stage and thought she was exaggerating (she mixed up past with future) At one point,she said that she often heard songs......from the other side.....she continued,...."the Robin,..he sings a merry little song",...there was a loud gasp from somewhere behind me in the audience and I knew that it was "she",(there was a small crowd there) I believe she invited me to go to this spiritualist reading to confirm that my departed relatives would come through just like most of the rest,..and she could rest her mind somewhat at ease that Gooberz was not real,..I didn't get an opportunity to talk with her that night,..but I telephoned a few days later and exchanged small talk,..she said she thought my reading was accurate. The Robin is obviously a messenger of the Gods,...in the beginning I thought that her sons name must be Robin,..due to the reaction it caused when I first mentioned it,..I was tempted to go to the local newspaper offices and find out his name,..date of death and the circumstances,..but I felt that this would not be right,..so I waited and one day while I was burning a stack of old farming journals,..I noticed a heading on the cover of one paper "suicide in rural Ireland". I thumbed through it quickly and another of these moments of fate was upon me,..the article was about her and her tragic experience,....now I knew the sons name and when he died. After reading Star Signs I had added an initial to my name to give the compound number of 25 which was one less than it originally vibrated to. I did notice at that time,.....that if I added one letter to the surname and dropped the initial I would have quite a favourable number. I went for the initial instead as I didn't think changing the spelling of my surname would be as easy to manifest. His name vibrated to 22 + 28 which reduce to the compound 23.......then I realised that with the letter U added to Osborne (both common ways to spell the name,..for instance Joan Osborne,.. the singer.. and the female lead character's name, "Osbourne" in the film "message in a bottle".. with the added U both our names matched,..Michael = 22 Osbourne = 37 which reduces to the compound 23....."his name" 22 + 28 = 23 as well! So now my name is Michael Osbourne. I spoke to her twice more after that before we lost contact. I really felt so badly for her,..the grief must be almost unbearable to roll the Saturn stone from the Easter cave,...then things started to look up for her and she achieved great success in her work,..this eased my concern somewhat.
If the Miracle had happened what would the effect be on my own family?.....Linda grew and knew,......I don't know how this story will end,..but it hasn't reached a final conclusion yet,..that I am sure of. You know in a way it is a relief to tell this and maybe it will be of help to someone. Thanks for being so understanding Essence  Love Michael P.S. I asked a man I work with,.. about the Robin,..he told me that his mother would be in a state, if a Robin flew into the home,..."the Robin brings hasty news" he said
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#72421 - 05/09/99 04:50 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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WOW!!! Dearest Michael, Please don't get upset if I have grossly mis-interpreted your story, but are you saying that you were/are that author's son? If that is correct, then I feel so sad that you were so distraught before. If that is incorrect, will you please try to tell me again? I have not yet mastered total understanding of the Saturn-Seven Cylce and since talking to you I feel like I get it even less. I had been posting you a reply and I even quoted something from page 524 of Star Signs, when I went back to your post to verify something and lo and behold, [what I thought you had 'said' about not being able to attain physical immortality until you paid off your karma] was not there, isn't that wyrrd? So I deleted that post and started over. Anyway, before I knew about physical immortality I don't know what I would have thought. But as a student of Linda's, I really do see death differently (unnecessary and unnatural). And yes I knew exactly what she meant about wanting the Carousel Bill's SAME everything, however, as you recall, once she knew Gooober was really him, it didn't matter. Yet with a child, is it the same consolation? I don't know, I guess in the end it would be. Part of my confusion with the SSC is, for example - "Michael left without a word and no one knows where he went" (sorry if the quote is not exact) - how does that work? Where does the original tenant go? Doesn't "that" spirit/mind miss everyone who was in their life in the newly given-up body temple? It is almost 5 am here in Fun City, I really must go now but as usual I look forward to your return. At this moment, I think you will hear from 'her' again. What will you tell your family? Did you inherit a family when you took over the lease on your present temple? How did that go? And last but not least, how come a farmer stays up so late? Slan essence
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#72422 - 05/10/99 12:08 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Greetings Dear Michael, Now that I have bombarded you with questions, you probably will no longer think of my posts, as having such a "nice, soft feel" to them - sorry, I guess my Leo Moon & Capricorn Ascendant were showing b/c it was so late ... Funny you should mention Ruth Cook. Because I often think of her. Do you recall that Linda not only put a dedication to her in STAR SIGNS & GOOBERZ, but also mentioned her so often in each of them, as well as in LOVE SIGNS? I have even told Crystal that maybe she should look to speak to her, for answers to a lot of things. Anyway, I am going to post a lexigram I did of the Carousel Bill and maybe you will be interested, especially b/c of your story... The one time I tried Astral Travel, I did not have any thuds or any other kind of crashing sensations, when I came back into my physical body (which really was right away)... Much Love ***essence***
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#72423 - 05/10/99 12:44 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, I am always looking forward to your posts too! You know what is really wyrrd,..I DID say what you quoted,..but realised shortly after I had posted it,that my definition was wrong,..so thanks for putting me back on the right path!,..I take it you were going to quote what Linda said on page 524,.. about achieving Physical Immortality and paying your karmic debts without the amnesia of reincarnation,..right? whereas I said Physical Immortality couldn't be achieved until all karma was balanced,..you were quite correct in spotting that goof of course,..but as I am sure you are aware there are certain debts that must lead to death eventually,..no matter how adept you are. The Bible says,..God did not create death... and... Death is the wages of sin, these are not exact quotes,..no chapter and verse! I dip into it now and again,..and since reading Linda's books it makes much more sense to me. I can discern more easily the truth in it from the parts where "man has created God in his own image",.. rambling again! Back to death,..cell regeneration is the beginning of one of the paths leading to enLIGHTENment and Physical Immortality,..which can only be achieved when two Twin S-Elves are joined together again, becoming one perfect snowflake guiding man and woman in Love and Light,...does that sound better!? The phrase "time and gravity" Lexigrams into,.....TRAGEDY...also...GRAVE time re-versed is....EMIT,...so to reverse GRAVITY one must emit thought forms which are not liMITEd by the illusion of time. So lets do our best to avoid the gravity yard. Yes I am the same Mind and Soul that was her son,..Essence,..I truly believe that (by the way the Lexigrams of "believe" and "miracle" which Linda decoded in Star Signs are my two all time favourites!) The questions you pose about the Saturn Seven Cycle are very understandable,..and believe me, they have troubled me too,..I may have an idea about some of them,...but there is so much that I am still not aware of. When I first read GOOBERZ,I never for an instant dreamed that I would experience such a thing as the Saturn Seven Cycle,..for one thing,..I didn't think thar I would need to,..being determined to master Cell Regeneration. Of course it manifested a Miracle for linda and Gooober,..but it troubled me that such movement between temples was so ethereal,...how could one judge his/her progress in the game of life,..it seemed you went asleep in one house and woke up in another and never even noticed the difference,..the web of karmic lace must be incredibly intricate for such a thing to occur (I believe it is) Essence,...your question about Michael leaving troubled me once too,..until I remembered that it is the Higher S-Elf who chooses to go or stay and not the self. Yes to your other question too,..I have a family whom I care for very much,...so that is my dilemma,...why do I feel so heavy of heart,...there was no recognition on my part,..yet it must be an inner awareness. You wanted me to post my pic!....aah....but I'm afraid I am pretty computer illiterate,...a jpg file..huh?...so perhaps I could convey an image to you ,...think of Mel Gibson!,...we share a birthday..Jan 6..although I once saw somewhere that he was born on the 4th,..but I think it's the sixth,cos.... MEL GIBSON 453 312375 =12 =21 =33 =6! Only joking!..the only physical characteristics we share are blue eyes. When I was a nipper ,...we didn't own a television,..so my father would drive myself and a cousin over to my aunts house to watch programs there. Hawaii Five-O and Dustys Trail (ahem..) were my favourites. Steve McGarret was my fave TV character,...do you remember as the camera swooped in towards the top of the building and the dark suited cop swung around ! I used to think that was who I would like to be,..anyway when Jack Lord passed on last year I looked on the internet to see was there anything there about his life,...I remember my National (grade) school teacher saying that he was Irish and had changed his name to Jack Lord,..there were a lots of sites dedicated to him, his original name was very Irish sounding,..can't remember it now, and it was his father who was Irish,..guess what, Jack Lord was a cappy too! although I don't know the date of birth (guess I should be going to the celebrity forum 2 with this!) So thats how you can image me,..dear essence...although I actually look more like Dusty! So mite to go, are you a native New Yorker,Essence?... nice to see you can speak "as gaeilge" some Irish roots? I think I saw on another thread,..that you said you had an affinity with Italy and all things Italian,..thats a bit of a coincidence,..I seem to be drawn to Italy myself lately,...it must be their passion which I admire (Italy being a Leo country) Did you think I was up late?! I thought 4 am was pretty early myself,..Essence but I can understand how you might be confused,..being in the City that never sleeps,..you were up pretty early/late yourself  Love and Magic! Michael
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#72424 - 05/10/99 12:55 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: Michael]
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Dear Essence' Crossed Posts!! I had my answers all ready to send last night and couldn't make a connnection when I tried to submit the post,...see what I said about LEO!,..... if it please's your majesty ..... You've lovely Piscean qualities which I really like,...and as for Cappy..well druid said "birds of a feather flock together" Love Michael
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#72425 - 05/10/99 12:56 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Michael, I guess I was not paying attention to how funny you are!!! Don't you know by now, it wouldn't matter if you did look like Mel Gibson [a girl can dream, eh?] ONLY KIDDING... When I look at a picture of Linda - I just see a "certain, special something" and I noticed this same quality when I once saw a photo of Ralph Bergstresser. So I just was curious to see you b/c I'm sure you must have it too (druid honor). All the men in my family just love Hawaii Five-O and Jack Lord too. Michael you spelled druid with a capital D, I'm sure it was just a typo... If you lexigram weird - you get die, however when spelled wyrrd - you get wry, dry (words I happen to associate with humor)... I was going to quote (from pg.524) the bit about "choosing eternal life in your present flesh body...choosing NOT to die, etc...will negate a great deal of the unpleasant karma of past incarnations." So my take on this, was that by one just KNOWING the truth about physical immortality, they had an instant payoff on (at least some of) their karmic debt. In reference to "the web of karmic lace" (that is so nice) I agree it seems 'incredibly intricate'. 1st off, not everyone switches temples at their SSC. Somehow, I get the feeling the ones who do,(of course having already chosen this when planning out all details of their present incarnation, w/out any conscious recollection of it at the 'time' when in their original (from 'birth') flesh temple [which they will leave at the SSC], at least, not until after they've switched temples) well, that the ones who do - it is part of their own cosmic mission to change temples. [i.e. the Carousel Bill and even yourself] I do think many others fulfill their destiny w/o switching bodies. I still have so much to learn in regards to where you said "it seems you went to sleep in one house and woke up in another and never even noticed the difference". I'm sure that is the way it is, at least on one level, but what about the rest? My feeling that there is more to it, is what I would like to learn about. Is this aspect of it made any clearer in the Lion(ess) Path? I highly doubt it, not only because Linda told us it was 'fathoms deep' but, really, who has ever made anything any clearer than Linda? I am sure whatever aspects of this topic she did not delve deeper into with us, was of course for the usual reason ... The allotted time being intertwined with our S-elves 'remembering' at their own allotted time... As for me I am determined to become a Lady Master in this flesh body, but I do know to never say never (except with Universal Truth). Nationality wise, I am very much a hybrid. Yes, I am part Irish & Scottish and I have an affinity for all of Great Britain, but especially for Scotland. But I am also part Italian. Have you ever been to Italy? How about the States? I took a few Gaelic lessons in the back room of an Irish bar here called "Rocky Sullivans", have you heard of it? But I'm afraid I can only speak 'as Gaeilge' a wee bit. I always wanted to learn and then one fine day I read that Gaelic was the 'language of heaven' and that was it. Even though I do know that English rules, I will be fluent in Gaelic one day, in the scottish dialect also. Probably around the same time I get my castle in Scotland - you will drop by, won't you? It is always 'buttacrack' to stay up very late. I love to sleep but never seem to go to bed. You really are very funny... Much Love - essence
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#72426 - 05/12/99 07:58 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, Wyrrd is the word! the word druids must be beaming in delight at you now! All things Bright and Beatiful All things Wyrrd and Wonderful Yes some things are wyrrd (magical!) and other things are just plain weird (death) Wyrrd 61224 = 15 (The Magican) And here's an interesting thing, Wyrrdr 612242 = 17 (the Capricorn sense of humour,..wry and dry) It just gets wyrrdr and wyrrdr!! I had been doing a bit of tidying up on a few of my posts,you know,.. a ' here and there. SHOCK HORROR!!! I noticed that I had spelled the pOets name with a capital D,...now I am usually very careful about this,..knowing the difference between the two. Thanks for pointing the goof out though, it's nice to know you realise the significance,..although I never really thought otherwise. And now after reading your comments on Cell Regeneration and the Saturn Seven Cycle,..I wonder would you like to post a pic on the forum! you explained everything so clearly,..I think you must have those EYES,..you know?....the ones that can SEE forever,..YES! I thought so!! "What about the rest?" in reference to the SSC,..here are a few extracts from GOOBERZ,..just to RE-MIND myself as well. "but of course! all things in existence are measured by - and manifest through - vibrations for,vibrations are the throbbing heartbeat of life itself although few are aware of it all odors, scents and fragrances are the vibrations of.....released vital energy registered through the sense of smell" So that would explain how the "not really dead" ones individual body scent is the same in the new body temple that the Spirit,Mind and Soul control Here is another extract, page 556 "yes,urges it to choose another adult body temple quickly another painted horse to ride on life's carousel - near to the bereaved in some way I have not learned - but will for a time,holding back the truth from the blindly grieved deep behind the eyes..which are truly the windows of the soul and if the one crushed with such an unbearable weight will but look and listen,with the spirits sensitive awareness and be ready the proof will soon be seen and heard sufficient signs will be gradually given..the familiar words the recognition..the secrets no one else could know or remember a laugh..a manner of speaking..a walk..a shrug or a turn of the head just so.. and then - oh then! the heart will know the re-kindled ember yes,yes - the heart will know! One thing I have noticed for the past while is that I do laugh differently,..being actually surprised at times,to hear how different it is from the way I used always laugh before. Last night I happened to glance down at a book "she" had written, Love Signs was lying on top of it,..and the last two letters of her first name were only visible and the last two letters of her surname,..like this, NA ER Heathcliffe quotes Emerson "nothing is really dead... people feign themselves to be dead ...endure mock funerals and mournful obituaries while...there they stand! looking out the windows...of the souls eyes in some strange,new disguise! This is actually a reincarnation of my last post,which seems to have disappeared into hyperspace during the mite when the server was down. I explained what I thought the Lion(ess) Path was about,..and then after posting my reply I hopped over to Star Chat and saw where Crystal was very kindly making you a gift of "The manual of the short path" it has manifested at last! LUCKY YOU!! So maybe it is just as well my akward attempts at explaining it escaped! now I would really like to hear your opinions on the work? is your copy published by House of Horus? Och aye! I would love to visit when you find a nice Highland Castle,...you take the high road.......and you probably have more gaeilge than I. Regarding travel,..believe it or not, I have never been past these shores,..though when I do Italy and America are on the cards (I wonder could I hack it in NYC,..being a rather shy ChAP) Glad you liked the humour! I only take it out on special occasions (thank god,..say others!) wyrrd and wyrrdr are now in my vocabulary for good,thanks for the revelation Essence! Good Luck with the Lion(ess) Path,..of course we are already on at least one of the three paths already. Lots of Love Michael P.S. I am looking forward to the lexigram of the carousel Bill.
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#72427 - 05/13/99 12:35 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: Michael]
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Dear Michael, Greetings...We lost our last two posts with all the technical trouble (poor Greg). So if memory doesn't fail me entirely (which it has been doing the last few days) I will try to repeat, if not word for word, at least the 'essence' of what I was saying... 1st off - wyrrd & wyrrder - thanks for doing the numerological values - don't ya (who wouldn't) JUST love 15 & 17! In fact 17 has always been my favorite number, I even got married on the 17th b/c of that!!! But I digress... Now, do you recall asking me to check 'Dweller' for you? After dutifully doing so I started wondering if you could be 'my own Sneaky Guru' - BECAUSE I really did not care for that book [nor 'Spear of Destiny'] - but in searching for the following reference that you asked me about: NOTE. - BUT ONE WILL COME AFTER ME WHO SHALL TELL THEE MORE OF THE GREAT DEEP OF LIFE THAN I. AWAIT HER WORDS. - AUTHOR which was actually on page 250, so of course I did a lot of skimming and re-reading. And I have to say I 'saw' the book differently. Which of course was for the good towards the KNOWING and Growing things...Because I 'got' more out of it and please don't ask what, yet! Isn't it funny how you [so generously] mention that "I seem to explain things so clearly" when I feel so UNCLEAR. And even funnier is that if you would have asked me three weeks ago, I would have definately told you that my EYES COULD SEE FOREVER. Now I can only say that yes, they can see forever, but they just don't KNOW it all the time. Thank you for quoting Gooberz to me, but you see Michael, the biggest part of SSC that gives me so much trouble is WHERE does the one who gives up their body temple (to make it available for the one, newly departed who is coming to take over the lease) GO? It's back to the drawing board for me... While I once again study the lessons in Linda's beautiful words - "... who taught me that Truth must be discovered alone in silence before it can be shared with others through words" - (from a dedication page in Gooberz). But regarding 'Dweller' - I'm with you, I DO think he means LINDA! I hope your being a shy ChAP wouldn't keep you from going where you want to go... Wasn't that so very kind of Crystal? I am still utterly surprised. Love - essence p.s. - "BOOK 'EM DANNO!"
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#72428 - 05/14/99 12:45 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: ESSENCE]
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Michael, Essence's question about the SSC is one I've been asking myS-elf forever! What happens to the Soul who's moved out of the body temple! I sometimes feel my Souls switched at my last SSC. I've changed soooo much and started my spiritual quest shortly after the SSC! My own family told me they don't even know me anymore. The change has been that dramatic. The old me and new me are like day and night! Then I wonder.... if I did switch at the SSC, where did the other me go? It makes me sad for some reason! I don't like to think about it bcos if I believe that I'm not me anymore... then I am gone and where did I go? ...but I'm not gone bcos I'm here! So it's the other Soul that's gone! But that was me too! I just go in circles! And I don't make any sense to me, so I Know I can't possibly be making sense to you Or have you traveled through this big question mark already? Can you shed some LIght on this for me Michael? I'm sooooo confused and when I think about it, I feel like the serpent eating its tail! Is that how it's supposed to seem? LOve and LIght, PurplePeace
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#72429 - 05/14/99 03:32 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: PurplePeace]
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Dearest Michael, When I lexigrammed the 'Carousel Bill's' full name there were so many words, here is 'the story' I got from them: BILL WAS IN ARMY AND HATED THE HI-WAY BILL WAS STILL SHY, SLIM AND REALLY SMART BILL HAD DREAMY EYES AND LASHES BILL'S NAME WAS 'EYES' BILL WAS A TWIN BILL HAD A DREAM, WAS A DREAMER HE WANTED TO BE A HEALER BEST DAY WHEN MARRIED MARY/LINDA WAS MARY/LINDA A TWIN? WAS THIS HIDDEN? BILL WAS A WRITER AND HID HIS ART BILL WAS BEST WHEN DRY AT TIMES WAS BEASTLY - AND LIED HE MADE MARY/LINDA SAD YET SAW THE NILE WITH MARY/LINDA WANTED (TO) HEAL THE THREE AND HIM BILL SAID BYE THREE TIMES WAS SAD WHEN LAID THREE WREATHS BILL WAS MARRIED MARY/LINDA - TEN YEARS BILL READ MAIL - MARY/LINDA BILL WRITE MAIL - MARY/LINDA HAD MARY/LINDA AND BILL TWINS? SALLIE HIDES BEHIND BILL BILL HIDES IN BREWER IS BREWER REALLY BILL? YES - STILL? - YES IS MARY/LINDA REALLY DEAD? YET - LINDA REALLY STILL HERE AS SHE NEAR AND DEAR IN ALL HEARTS MARY/LINDA REALLY WISE... Isn't it amazing how it all so accurately lexigrammed? And of course, a couple of things were not in Gooberz, but didn't she tell us if something wanted to remain 'hidden' it would not lexigram? Finally, there is no NO, only YES... Love - essence
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#72430 - 05/14/99 04:11 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: ESSENCE]
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Essence dear, That was simply beautiful...the truth shall "set" you free ! Michael, here is another of them druids...so many Gurus, Pixies, Angels, Magicians... so many of them and now the druids... This gets magicaler and magicaler by the "minute" Wonderful Essene...thanks for helping us "c" love druid PS : Somehow this kinda reminds me of the magical fairy stories of that wonderful author - Enid Blyton!
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#72431 - 05/14/99 10:18 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, You are simply a deLIGHTful druid  casting so much light on William and Linda's Life, just magnify by FIVE what I have said,..you know how staid a cappy can be! Virgo insists on some clarifications though, so I will chat with you later, till then  Hi PurplePeace, I know only TOO WELL,..what you mean! round and round!!.....I will be back later Peace to give my take on the comings and goings, however there is a lot I am not aware of yet, the SSC is not something one would really wish for is it? (without conscious recall) Fate does seem to work in mysterious ways, so there must be Rhyme and Reason to the seasons of it all,....we just have to lEARN what it is, to bring understanding near. Love and learning Michael p.s. druid in Dubai, I loved the Famous Five books,..never found the fairies though!
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#72432 - 05/14/99 12:20 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: Michael]
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Dear Purple, "the body is the Temple of the soul..." "it is like unto a house a Body Temple is like a house in which someone lives, but..." "... and may the soul, then move in and out of the house ... this Temple called the body... - only at birth and death?" "there is a possibility that the soul may move from one Temple into another...into the Temple of a sister or a brother...[and somehow knew that I did not mean kin by brother and sister]" "...every seven years or so sometimes by choice, sometimes not by choice..." [when] "the vibratory influences of the planet Saturn...when aspecting by conjunction square or opposition only its own position at birth but the Body Temple has not changed at the time of these Saturn-to-Saturn aspects and I don't see how..." "the Body Temple has not changed?" "well, yes - I suppose it has changed there is, so to speak, a new body - or a new Temple approximately every seven years, because..." "at that approximate interval of Time as measured here, on this planet - in this Solar System approximately every seven years throughout an Earthling's life span this new body - this new Temple is accomplished by..." "accomplished through the body's own regenerative process... through the constant regeneration of cells such as one's hair and nails - and skin and blood and tissues...and...the cells of all body organs create a new Body Temple approximately every seven years but not always a superior body, because[...]" "the new Temple is created by...and the body cells are regenerated through... the food one eats - through food and thought both together yes, food and thought this is how the body cells are regenerated to form the new Temple - every approximate seven years" "and what type of soul may or may not enter the Temple or the body at these seven year Saturn periods of transformation SYCHRONIZED to Saturn's movements?" "the type of soul moving into a Temple or a body at this time depends upon...the condition of the Temple it depends upon the condition of the Body Temple through food and thought partaken of during each approximate seven year period of cell regeneration... depending upon the care given the body through food and thought...since what you eat creates what you think and what you think creates what you are then either a lower or higher evolved soul may enter a lower or higher...spiritually evolved soul...although this does not mean..." "....that is, sometimes - not always, but sometimes a high soul may enter an ill body for a higher karmic purpose...sometimes, not always" "a soul - from where?" "a soul from the same level of awareness from this existence - from a Body Temple which has also reached the seven year Saturn cycle and wants to change or trade... or a soul from...some other level of awareness such as...from another galaxy or a recently deceased Earth-bound soul if pulled back into a Body Temple by the grief of the bereaved, or..." "or...any other soul entering the body during the Saturn indicated seven year cycle" "it stores all the memories of the activities of a Body Temple in its present existence the memories of the body's words and actions dictated throughout the Life span of the body by the various souls which have resided in it during a particular Temple's beingness on Earth the brain...records and retains these memories somehow like unto a present day computer and it also acts as a generator, the brain...a generator for...." "...in addition to storing the memories or the 'growing' things of the body's actions dictated by the souls which have resided in it during its Life span in addition, the brain is a generator - or a transformer? which transfers - how I do not know but which impresses upon the mind fragments which are...which are deja vu memories... ...the lesser 'knowing'-things" ..."not the ones of which we cannot speak but still, 'knowing'-things" you added" "yes! the 'knowing' things of which we may speak when the brain, acting as generator helps us to recall them these fragmented memories brought by the soul from other Temples or bodies are stored in the subconscious of each Body Temple chosen when the new soul moves in to be later generated by the brain, through the Mind into a conscious awareness...during meditation or whenever...that is, I believe that during..." "so THAT'S why I remember the 'growing'-things all the people, places and events of my past!" .... [from pages 490 and on in Gooberz] Since we are discussing the Saturn-Seven-Cycle I thought it might be helpful to have some of Linda's 'actual text' right here on this thread... Would it have been an SSC (for Linda) during the 'time' that she 'crossed over'? Love - essence
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#72433 - 05/14/99 07:21 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: ESSENCE]
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Actually it wouldn't be a Saturn Seven Cycle time, if she was indeed born on April 9, 1925. Of course, as much as Linda delighted in confusing the issue about her real age, I wouldn't be inclined to bank on that date, even if we had birth certificate in hand!  Her passing would have been timed to a Saturn opposition if she were born in '21, and a square if she were born in '28. This brings up an interesting question, though ... let's say someone changes body temples once, then years later does it again. The question is, would the second change be timed by the SSC of the body temple she was first born into, or the one she later occupied? A related question. of course, is whose birth chart is mapped by the birthtime/place of the body temple (since that stays with the body, no matter how many "occupants" it may have)? The original dweller? Or the new inhabitant? Or both, in some way? That, to me, is the real crux of understanding the SSC phenomenon. I suppose that's really just a different way of stating PurplePeace's confusion: who are we really, if the dweller in the temple changes? I think the phrase you and Michael used several posts back captures it when trying to think clearly about these things -- deep waters!
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#72434 - 05/14/99 10:49 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear purplePeace, It would be both the Mind and split Soul that leave the body temple at the Saturn Seven Cycle,as to where they go,well according to GOOBERZ, either the temple of a newborn infant, to a different dimension or universe, or to another adult Body Temple where the Mind and Soul are leaving to go somewhere else too. Maybe we should think of the SSC in relation to the more common concept of reincarnation. A mind and Soul connect to and control the Body Temple of a newborn infant which is born under the astrological influences necessary to fulfil the karma of that Spirits Mind and Soul,..the human progresses through life and is presented with a certain set of circumstances,and progress is made depending on the responses, new karma can be created as well,..the body eventually dies and that person is no more,..that name and personality are gone. A new life,..a new birthchart,(a new personality) with no recall of what has gone before (due to crossing the stix) Now translate that to the SSC,..moving from one Temple to another results in,..a new birthchart,..a new name,..and a new personality(programmed into the brain of that Temple at the instant of the first breath) so the person seems reasonably the same as before the change to friends and family ,..this of course begs the question as to how the personality patterns could emerge (with help) from the previous Body Temple,..well the mind travelled from the old house to the new and can recall if conditions are right. The SSC would have to be timed from whatever Body Temple the Mind and Soul currently resides in, although leaving needen't be a SSC aspect,death can occur at other times than this obviously,..just the moving in to the new temple would be so timed (the host temple would be under such an aspect) in between the Mind and Soul could be discarnate. Gregory, I think that whoever is in a particular Body Temple at whatever point in time is under the astrological influences that are playing on that Temple, from Birth to (maybe) death,..being a very experienced astrologer yourself do you think that similar astrological aspects in similar charts (I know they wouldn't be identical and perhaps renders my query invalid) can manifest in different ways?...lets say someone buys a house and there is a leaking pipe,..well the new owner has to face that problem as well,I suppose only the Gods know how intricate karma is. I have a Sagittarian fourth House in my chart,.."her" Sun Sign is Sagittarius...so how would that have related to the previous tenant? well my aunt is a Saggitarian too and in my childhood I was like her own child. PurplePeace, what we need is conscious recall, if you changed Temples there must have been a reason, I can only suggest picking up GOOBERZ regularly and watch out for any clues,...I was sent some signs... If you have returned to meet someone,..then this will happen, of that there is no doubt,..its what you do after that counts. I do know how you feel PurplePeace, I have worked it out in part in my Mind and Soul the rest I am content to leave in the Laps of the Gods for now. Essence, sorry I won't get to chat this time but I'll be back soon,...the SSC raises very interesting questions about Sallys disappearence too,..which I would like to mention next time,..do you know anything about this? Love ~ Michael
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#72435 - 05/15/99 01:17 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: Michael]
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Thanks... Essence, Greg and Michael, I've thought about my SSC only briefly on occassion, as I said it made me sad for some wyrrd reason! Rather than try to understand it, I suppose I've just tried to ignore it! Your posts got me thinking about it again. I don't Know if it was the cirucumstances in my life that changed me or if I really did switch Temples. I am definitely different. Perhaps it was my enlightenment that caused the change. All I know is it all happened around my SCC which is what made me start wondering in the first place. I am honestly like night and day with my old S-elf! When the nearest dearest person in my life started telling me every single day... "I don't even know who you are anymore", I started to REALLY think about the SSC!!! If this is in fact what happened to me, I either have some amount of recall or this Soul is a STRONG one, because this ME is taking over and it hasn't been a subtle change at all. It's like being literallly in the dark and then someone turned on the bright LIghts! I do read Gooberz quite frequently. It is my favorite of all Linda's books. But I haven't seen any signs as of yet. Then again that is most likely because I wasn't looking. I've tried to avoid this subject so I didn't have to deal with it! Yes..... I'm a coward Just a little scared of those "deep waters" I think for some reason it is time for me to figure it all out..... and that's what I shall do! Thank you all for helping me understand this a little better. I'll keep you posted on what I un-cover Thanks for the wake-up call. I Know I needed it  LOve and LIght, PurplePeace
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#72436 - 05/16/99 08:42 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: PurplePeace]
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Dear Essence, Once again may I just say how much I liked your Lexigram of "the Carousel Bill",it was inspired!..there is one bit that troubles me though and I feel does not fit,.....the thirteenth line... I hope you wont mind me mentioning this,..Essence..because I really admire your talent with the words. In GOOBERZ,..Linda writes,....page 352 an ugly,ugly buried thing ...deeply buried memory the only,..only un-marvelous moment we ever knew except for the three grassy...graves and the time of...her the cool,sure one the only really nightmare time of hate and fear ..except for those.. we ever knew,in all our shining beauty days it was..in our last drowning year" That extract related to an incident,..when Bill was speeding in their car and she hit her tooth against the door and broke it. I can't believe he ever beat her. Thanks for looking up "dweller" Essence,..I found the first half of that book a bit flat and boring,..but the second part was quite interesting,...relating to matters such as,..reincarnation,..astral planes,..karma and twin-souls. The first half laid the foundation. One of the books Linda recommends is "The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ" I think it is very enlightening,..have you read it? How are you getting on with the Lion(ess) Path?..I would love to hear. Seeing as we are discussing the Saturn Seven Cycle here,..perhaps I might mention something that I have been thinking about for a while,...the mystery of Sallys disappearence. If we consider that Linda was aware of the SSC when Sally "died" in 1973,..then why did she believe so firmly that her daughter was still alive,..having already experienced the Miracle of the return of the carousel Bill,...so she would have been aware that Sally could return even if "dead" (Linda's grief was almost unbearable) but she still maintained that she was alive,..citing astrological "proof",..could this have been the "transits that permit death" as discussed with Heathcliffe in GOOBERZ p 927. Linda may or may not have been aware of this knowledge back then,..GOOBERZ was written over so many years,..and I know it raises questions as to how such astral permission could be in the charts of hundreds at the one time,..in a war scenario or a disaster of any kind, that is for the astrologers to decide I suppose. Then in Love Signs,..Linda sends a "carousel message" to Sally,...which makes one wonder about a Saturn Seven Cycle return. Whatever the answer,.. it was all so sad. When I first started in Post-Primary school,..the first class,..the teacher told us that "an atom is the smallest particle of matter there is" then added "that's not actually true,..but it is all you need to know for this year....now repeat,an atom is the smallest particle of matter" It is similar with the lessons we learn in the spiritual school I feel,..first, the knowledge of the cycle of return,..then the wheels within wheels of the Saturn Seven Cycle and then unbroken consciousness. If we pass the exams! I am sure you will find the Truth PurplePeace,..after all that is the Sagittarian byword isn't it.  I look forward to hearing from you again Essence,please do check in before you embark on the Lion Path,..if you enter the 4th Dimension goodness knows when you will be back!! "of what use is this proven law of synchronicity to me..right now? of what practical use to me the Harmonics of the Universe? supposedly,when something impresses itself upon the mind with enough intensity to be considered a part of beingness itself not minor worries..petty problems nor trifles of fretting but something of serious and real concern the solution to that problem is there for us to learn... the answer to that question lies in the Universal Mind...infallibly there to be plucked from the air embedded into the ethers,requiring that one looks and listens..for it for,at the same time the question arises to its greatest pitch of anxiety in the human heart since all is inter-related when something is seriously wrong and one honestly seeks guidance in the matter it may be found..threaded through the ribbons of the lyric of a song buried in the reporting of the five o'clock News to arise unexpectedly at the turning of a dial perhaps hiding, within a chance remark heard while one is moving through the rushing people traffic walking along..or crossing..a street Let those who have eyes -- see let those who have ears -- hear if one opens the eyes, to truly see and opens the ears,to truly hear the messages coming through will be startlingly clear" To finish, from GOOBERZ again, p949 on
"then the Easter story is really true! not nearly,but really true! Easter is total Truth -- although Jesus of Nazareth being a Master,trained by the Essenes chose to illustrate the Truth of human resurrection through translation...rather than demonstrating it through the current Earth pattern of resurrection of the Saturn-Seven-Cycle... by retaining his same Body Temple..and re-ordering it in the manner of Ascension,which magic all Earthlings will someday once more themselves remember when they become again as children and their newly awakened Third Eyes allow them to recall this lost pOwer...and even more yes,all this will be..when men and women once again become Gods and Goddesses of Innocent Faith for..it has been so ordained and..until this wisdom is once more possesed by all Earthlings the Truth of the Saturn-Seven re-birth will be the beginning of their ability to believe,as before in a literal ressurection for,when they begin to see the actual Truth in this and are able to recognize the departed ones for whom they so tearfully grieve as literally and actually returned to them and when the departed themselves bring back the memories of the former Body Temple identity and are thus able to prove that they,indeed,have returned as their very selves then the lost has truly been found then it will swiftly follow..that the Light will begin to dawn upon the Minds of all Earthlings after which..more miracles lie ahead than even the greatest visionary could possibly imagine" Amen Awomen
Love ~ Michael
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#72437 - 05/17/99 02:43 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: Michael]
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GREETINGS Dear PurplePeace, Could it be you didn't switch temples at your SSC and perhaps just had a metamorphosis? On page 330 of Gooberz, Linda tell us: "and these periodic, seven year, cyclic Saturn conjunctions squares...or oppositions all symbolize the time for varying kinds of contemplation a need for guidance from the planets, and their wisdom for, these periods in the life are for the testing of the soul so the ancient texts do say a time for one to pray for Light - to re-assess one's true goal and purpose for being...the need for seeing the truth and for discerning wrong from right" Tell me true, don't you think you could have just been going thru changes, on the journey of finding the real -you of you? Love essence
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#72438 - 05/17/99 03:38 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
[Re: ESSENCE]
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Dearest Michael, I have missed you!!! I just LOVE The Lion Path - I have only read Part I so far, I really want to internalize it as deeply as I can before I go on. Michael - it is from House of Horus and it says that it is the 5th edition. I find utterly fascinating the TRUTH about Egyptian mummies and metamorphosis - did you too? With regard to the thirteenth line, that is something I would never have believed either had I not been 'told' that this did occur. It is troubling and yet not only do I know that lexigrams do not lie, but there are many 'things' about Linda's life, that are not in her books. So I am sorry that I 'troubled' you or anyone else with this, as it is disturbing. I would like to think that it was an isolated incident b/c of his 'drowning' problem, that makes me feel better about it. I think that I will edit that post and take that out. As for Sallie, I have always believed that she was alive, b/c Linda did. After Linda's 'passing' I started going to the library, (and I was even fortunate enough to speak with an astrology teacher of Linda's) and I do believe she is alive. In fact when I lexigrammed Sallie, two words that are there are Brazil & Belize... I hesitate to go into these 'deep waters' of Linda's personal life only b/c her other children are definately 'alive' and do you think they could possibly take offense? I would never want to compromise this "precious place". On a lighter note, Friday night I went to see THE FOUR TOPS and I mention this only b/c I thought of Linda B/C - the audience was very 'mixed' and EVERYONE was just having such a fabulous time that even the MC was saying how wonderful it was that people of every color were together enjoying such great music and sharing the love in 'that place' - Forgotten Melodies? Much Love - essence
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#72439 - 05/17/99 07:21 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, THE FOUR TOPS! they must surely be into Cell Regeneration!! oops.....showing my ageist mentality,....grab that thought by the root............ Yes it isn't always easy to remember that we are all brothers and sisters,..and each others keepers...the simplest Truths are always the hardest to master,...... sounds like you had a great time  You are right of course,Essence,..Sam O Goodman isn't mentioned in Gooberz,..so all of Linda's life is not there,...Gooberz tells US what WE need to know,..to grow.. And I agree with you too,..that when we discuss such things,..Linda's family, must be kept in mind. I know you are considerate to all,..so I take your word and enough said. It has been a couple of years since I gave my copy of the Lion Path to a member of "The Fellowship of Isis", I felt it was beyond my grasp at that time and I decided to concentrate on Cell Regeneration instead,..I do remember about the transformation,...and the original meaning of the "mummy",...isn't it interesting how a butterfly is the symbol for the soul in almost all traditions. When you have taken it all in,..I would really like to know your opinions?..perhaps a few quotes?...like you do with GOOBERZ (you know that book like the back of your hand!) I was just looking at some old posts on this forum and I noticed that you expressed surprise at my mentioning Capricorns ambition as cold,...well I feel it can be,..when it is put before consideration for the feelings and needs of others. Of course cappy will always be ambitious,..it's just what takes priority that counts,..what say you,..cappy ASC? You have so much FAITH,..Essence,..a true believer if anyone makes it,..you will! Love Michael
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#72440 - 05/18/99 01:53 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dearest Michael, And who is to say that the FOUR TOPS aren't aware of Cell Regeneration? Their music alone makes them druids and they do still look, sound & move great - one doesn't really know, eh?  Michael, are you a member of The Fellowship of Isis? I just recently, [finally] joined myself ... Most of the things in THE LION PATH are for sure, beyond my grasp too, but I just love 'the essence' of it and I was thinking the same thing as you, about the butterfly being the symbol of the soul almost everywhere ... Here we go, from the very beginning of THE LION PATH - TO THE READER This fifth and millenial edition of THE LION PATH contains so much new material that it will not simply repeat the fourth edition (1990 and updates), but rather summarize the most important portions of it, especially in Part I of what follows. The three parts are fairly independent and self-explanatory so they can be read in any order an individual reader may prefer. Part II is practically all new. It relates THE LION PATH to other lifebearing planets in our and other universes in the light of their shared transformational process. Part III, "The Big Question", addresses what the Path means to you and how it is implemented in your life. This part is introduced by spontaneous messages we have received from many people on the Path since 1994 about how it has affected their lives and outlooks. These messages reveal many useful insights gained from actual experience. They mean much to us and constitute our mandate for releasing the Big Picture now. We are sure they will inspire you too and - if you have walked the Path - will mesh with your own individual experiences. Let us then go forward together into the blossoming of time which to some may well seem like the Eye of the Hurricane. Let us walk in beauty. MUSAIOS November, 1996 There I go - sorry - I'm just excited. Here is the address for anyone who would like to get it: House of Horus 45911 Silver Avenue Sardis, B.C. V2R 1Z2 Canada As for what you said about me knowing Gooberz, it really is like 'my bible', in the sense that I go back to it again & again. At my 'day job' I have to find 'things' all the time. Anyway, you Michael, Of Course, ARE RIGHT - Capricorn ambition COULD be cold for the very reasons you site. For me, the important word is COULD. I just always thought that Cappies are very sensitive and secretly insecure and that is why they seek what they seek. Remember how Linda described Cappies 'Song of Lonely'? Every Capricorn man I know 'seems' so lonely, even if they don't appear to be. What say you about that, my precious Gooober? Much Love - essence
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#72441 - 05/18/99 08:19 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, I have to say in answer to your last question,..that the goat could never be as sensitive as the Piscean,..although insecurity can be a worry!,..as Linda says,..we cappies are sure about most everything,...except ourselves! Lonely and Lovely,..the first two words that started Linda off on the discovery of Lexigrams,..not surprising that lonely contains "one". Capricorn will never be as gregarious as some of the other Signs,..but it takes all sorts..right!? Capricorn Calender How old am I? I'll be 92 next Christmas though I wont admit to one day over 20 Even after all the birthday cards are cut and shuffled it's hard to figure I've aged at least 500 years since I stumbled into you Yet I still believe in fairy tales like the "Princess and the Frog" .....perhaps I'm really only 3 or so? You'll never know how old I am but I'll tell you anyway I was born the hour we met and died today from "Venus Trines At Midnight" Much thanks,Essence for that extract from the Lion Path,..fascinating,..now that it is updated...which must mean it is still possible to enter on to the short path ?
I'm not actually a member of The Fellowship Of Isis,,,,although I have visited Huntingdon Castle,..which is where the temple in Ireland is based. They are a really nice bunch,..the ones that I met..so you are a white Witch too! good for you!! The High Priestess,..Lady Olivia,is an Aries Sun Sign,..she is very witty and informed,...and she is one of the few who KNOW as well! and she comes from a Scottish family (so there you go ) Remember the robin in GOOBERZ,...well it's name vibrates to 17,..now here is another story to link it to the Resurrection,....which I found today, by "accident" The story of THE DAWN CHORUS On the day that Jesus died in Jerusalem,a great stillness fell over the whole city.The robun flew over the place where the cross stood and sadness filled his heart. "Our King is gone from us",he told the other birds with sadness as they gathered round him. "They have killed him in the end." The birds were silent. They could hardly believe the robins words. "Let us not sing anymore," the wren said. How could we sing again after such a thing?" The other birds agreed. That night and the next they kept close together,in the rain and the cold that covered the city. They almost did not care now about such things,all that mattered was the loss of their friend and King. Down below them the noise in the city streets went on as if nothing had happened. The birds did not understand. Did none of the people know what a terrible thing had taken place? The next night the robin could not rest at all. He was tired and yet he could not sleep. He had eaten almost nothing that day for he did not feel hungry. The robin had seen Jesus been taken away to be buried and now he flew to the garden where the Kings grave was, so that at least he might keep watch on the master who had loved all living things. In the east,an orange-yellow light began to spread above the hills,and the robin knew that morning was not far away. He settled in a tree not far from the place where Jesus' body lay and waited for the first light of morning. At last the robin heard footsteps. He saw a woman coming towards the grave - Mary Magdalene - she was crying as if her heart would break for she had loved Jesus very mutch. But the suddenly she stopped. In the first golden light of dawn,the robin saw that the stone in front of Jesus' tomb was gone,that the grave was empty. And Mary had stopped crying,she was kneeling in front of someone wearing clear white robes,and the robin saw as the light fell on the mans face that it was Jesus himself! Somehow he was not dead any more but alive! The robin rose up into the air,singing for joy,his heart full to overflowing because the King he loved had came back,was alive again. He soared into the air to tell the others the news. To this very day the songbirds sing each dawn,to remember that dawn when Jesus rose again.They sing and give thanks to God for the King. by Kenneth C Steven from ("The Word" magazine) So the robin is really the bearer of glad tidings! The story has a nice "essence" to it,..hasn't it Gooober! Love ~ Michael
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#72442 - 05/19/99 12:33 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dearest Michael, How very lucky you are and how not surprised am I that you have visited Clonegal Castle and met with Olivia Robertson!!! I had forgotten about CAPRICORN CALENDAR, here's another one from VENUS TRINES AT MIDNIGHT - Without a crystal ball or ouija board I can't be sure what's going to happen tomorrow next week, next month or next year just the astrological vibrations of the negative-positive cycles are clear but I know exactly what's going to happen to me on Christmas Day, October 25, 1993 I'll run slowly into Central Park to smell the Gingko trees and find you walking on a bench feeding the squirrels Limburger cheese and playing marbles with jelly beans The corners of your eyes will have a few more crinkles mine will too and some of our dreams will have a few more wrinkles from not coming true You'll be munching a slice of blueberry pie and of course your white horse will be somewhere nearby (the one you always ride when you're chasing lost causes through the skeptical sky) I'll murmur "Fancy meeting you in Never-Never Land" When you hold out your heart, I'll hold out my hand and at that very same moment a church bell will chime (like the one we heard that snowy Sunday morning in New Haven) Then birds will swim backwards and fish will fly high frogs will sing love songs and I'll start to cry when I hear you smile and see you say "Remember? I told you we'd find a purple leprechaun to wish on someday" "If My Calculations Are Right..." Like all the poems in Venus Trines, I wonder about this one ... I'm glad you had such a nice 'accident', many thanks for that, it is lovely. I skipped ahead to the end of The Lion Path to see if I could tell you something of it, but Alas - it is totally over my head (for now, without benefit of having completed the whole book), I promise I will get there. I never got to mention about that night, when you peeked and saw 'her' initials sticking out like so - NA ER I really think she is 'near' ... Much Love & Slan essence
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#72443 - 05/19/99 01:27 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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I have just read every post here, and it's like reading a very interestng book...............Michael..thank you for sharing metaphysical experiences.... I just wanted to say that I loved the Capricorn poem, being a Cappy myself. I don't have Venus Trines at Midnight, so never saw it before. Michael..... I have Scorpio Rising and I believe you said you had a Scorpio Moon... Essence.....I have a Pisces Moon conjunct Venus, and you are a Pisces, right? So I am resonating to your vibes... The hour is late (or early), so I have to leave for now....I will return and read more of the discussions here, later. Peace and Love to all, Rainbow~ ------------------
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#72444 - 05/19/99 02:05 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Rainbow, Since you are such an exquisite poet yourself, I bet you would love Venus Trines At Midnight. Let me know if you get it, I think there are a lot of messages in Linda's poems. Yes, I am a Pisces... Isn't Michael amazing? Love - essence
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#72445 - 05/19/99 05:00 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Yes Essence.....Michael IS amazing.....thank you for the compliment on my poems....and I KNOW I would love Venus Trines at Midnight................and I really LOVED Gooberz.... Peace and Love, Rainbow~
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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. - Mattie Stepanek
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#72446 - 05/19/99 09:48 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Rainbow, You are a wonderful pOet,...exquisite,...as Essence said and I am sure you would love Venus Trines at Midnight. I would love to see more of your poems too,...there are so many poets here! Yes Scorpio Moon here,..3rd House,...thanks for posting the vehicle Star Signs Rainbow,..very apt connections I think,...we cappys would be right at home way up there and doing something practical too! Thanks for the compliment Rainbow,but you know at the moment I feel amazeing! Lots of Love Michael
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#72447 - 05/19/99 10:22 PM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, You are embarrasing me  just don't stop  That was a lovely poem you posted,I am looking in Venus Trines now and can't seem to find it,although I have read it often before. Many thanks again for checking the Lion Path Essence,....no rush on the times,...when you have completed it I would like to hear your thought of course. Next post makes a 6  so would you like to start another thread to follow on,...seeing as you resurrected this one,...I think you should carry it on, whatever angle,..the Lion Path? looking forward to a rebirth! Love ~ Michael p.s. Regarding being "near",with Saturn and Pluto in on the act,..it is how we will re-act that will count,...the tests WILL take place 
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#72448 - 05/20/99 12:32 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dearest Michael, Nabac le mac an bhacaigh Go mbaca mac an bhacaigh leat Nabac lemac an wacki Gomacca mac an wacki lat! You BUGNOCCH embarassed me!  But since it was only BUGNOCH, you won't have to hear my Moon in Leo ROAR  ANDIGINTO??? Is that what we were doing, reciting poetry to each other? "If My Calculations Are Right" always made me wonder b/c of the date being not too far away from Linda's 'passing' (did you happen to find it yet? and while you were looking did you notice page 91...). And being this is the Physical Immortality thread, I just thought it appropo to look at any 'clues' [especially in her poems, b/c they are very closely tied to her personal life) that could possibly give us all some more understanding of Linda's 'death'. Our dear druid said that I should ask you about the Queen, will you tell me, LE DO THOIL? How do you know the tests WILL take place? p.s. Michael, remember - NA ER That is exactly how my first & last name also end ... Much Love - essence p.s.s - I'm sure this thread does need to be locked, but doesn't Greg have to do that?
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#72449 - 05/20/99 05:48 AM
Re: Physical Immortality
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Dear Essence, You can get too much of a good thing (6) so lets end on the Spiritual 7 of Pisces. 61 does not reduce to another compound number,..so this thread must have transcended it's Karma. I'm not sure if I "digginto" completely, I will check it out,...but I dig! my Fifth House Sun means I do take risks,..but we know it's all in good fun  more layta! Love ~ Michael p.s. Gregory,..would you mind locking this thread?..as it is taking a long time to load. Thanks! You got it. (I didn't add another message, so I could leave the post count at 61. ) -- Greg
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