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#72388 - 03/06/99 11:27 PM Physical Immortality
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We are very eager to get many ideas on this topic.
First question.
Has anyone read and/or decoded "The Lion Path"? As you know this book is mentioned in Star Signs. It's a apparently a quicker way to immortality.
Also, please share with us any advice and your experiences on this incredible journey.

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#72389 - 03/07/99 08:59 AM Re: Physical Immortality
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Good morning.
Here are questions that is sure to get things stiring.
Please share your feelings on her death.
Do you feel different concerning immortality? Do you still think it's acheivable? How do you feel that Linda let herself go? Further, how did she exactly die? Thanks. Looking forward to your replies!!!

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#72390 - 03/08/99 01:50 AM Re: Physical Immortality
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My question is a bit simpler, Has anyone FOUND a copy of The Lion Path? I have been searchinbg everywhere for a copy of that book but to no avail.

It seems that it is out of print. Also, wondering if anyone might have a copy, I'd be glad to pay for a photocopy of that book and also the other works of Musaisos. Any info. on his publishers anyone?


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#72391 - 03/07/99 08:17 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Aurora]
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Aurora, we have a current copy of it. But we are having a hard time decoding it. The book is a very advanced read and complicated to understand. To our understanding, the book is out of print. The source we used to buy the book is in Star Signs, "For the PilgrimsProgress" Index. Page 475 ( in the revised copy). The address: The Lion Path, by Musaios. Sceptre Publishing, 1442-A Walnut St., Berkeley, CA 94709. You can try that for starters. Our purshase is dated three years ago. Good Luck!

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#72392 - 03/07/99 08:50 PM Re: Physical Immortality
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Tino & Veronica,

I'm not sure what you mean by "decoding" the book. From what little I understand, The Lion Path partly has to do with the planetary frequencies caused by Pluto crossing over Neptune's orbit and for that stretch of time being closer to Earth than Neptune is. I know the occurrence is rare and brief, but I don't recall the exact timing of it (it's now past though, I think). Of course, The Lion Path is far more complex than I comprehend or can explain.

Does your copy of the book provide an address you can write to for more information?

KJS

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#72393 - 03/08/99 12:46 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: KJS]
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Linda Goodman says this book is a quicker way to achieve immortality but, so far I have'nt found anything in "The Lion Path" that explains this. Has any one here started the 13 steps yet? If so can you please give me some advise about forgeting "Time"! I find it so difficult! Thanx, Veronica

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#72394 - 03/09/99 01:39 AM Re: Physical Immortality
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Veronica,

As far as I understand, you must write to the address provided at the back of the book for information on how to begin the Path.

I don't know that it's possible to forget about Time when we must live within it. Actually, I believe that trying too hard to forget about Time can have just the opposite effect of making us always conscious of it.

I wish you the best!

KJS

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#72395 - 03/09/99 04:28 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: KJS]
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Kathleen, yes our leaders are dead Which by the way weren't claiming to be immortal. Not physical anyways. Now Linda to us is a very respected and powerfull woman, and to put it bluntly, is now dead. Please explain that. Further, would you state that she was a "dark" person? Also, there are other members who are not understanding the Lion Path and it's safe to assume that they are not "worshiping" Satan. I'm not going to explain our beliefs - it will take to much time. But let me say this. Every thing in this universe has its duality which means that what is light is dark and what is dark is also light. What the leaders - yours or ours - preach is not always set in stone. It is always open to debates and not taken by face values. I find it that your ignorance and prejudice is condemning us. What makes you think that we are what you think we are. You do not know us. So please do not make a presumptuous remark concerning our successive quest for immortality.
This is all straying from the topic. For now lets leave Jesus and "Satan" out of this and speak about IMMORTALITY.
Speaking of which, can anyone please explain how Linda, an "immortal" can actually die?

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#72396 - 03/09/99 09:19 PM Re: Physical Immortality
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Laurentino Speaking: Kathleen, how did Linda herself come into possesion of the tablet(s)? Did she actually received them from egypt. Or smuggled it from there? Are they the originals or are there other copies? Another question. Do you think Linda will be back?

Veronica Speaking: Linda had mentioned that a wasted body is a tragic thing. I'm finding it difficult to reason why Linda would preach on this and then to later abandon it. I beleive that our spirits chose these flesh bodies for a good reason. Perhaps the spirtual world is not all that it's cracked up to be. I beleive in astral projection and have experienced it. This flesh body is where I'd like to be. Like you've stated, its my choice.

We'd like to know how are you going to reveal the information? Are you waiting for a certain time? Frankly speaking I'm (Laurentino) tired of people holding this type of important information simply because they think the world isn't "ready". I beleive the time is NOW. Please do not keep us in the dark.

On last thing. I'm sure you don't beleive us (and thats o.k., I guess) but we are very much in tuned to our polairties. So that you would know! Also, please try to answer all of our questions. Don't dance around the issue. Thanks.

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#72397 - 03/11/99 01:36 AM Re: Physical Immortality
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Hi !
just a message...

EVOLVE

has the words 'LOVE'in it.......

and that is ...everything!

love
shagun

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#72398 - 03/10/99 02:27 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: shagunj]
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Re: Cell regeneration and detoxification

Found a site here for anyone interested called "The Gentle Survivalist", strong Native American slant, GREAT articles and the person who runs the site obviously has a cool sense of humour and balance.

http://www.infowest.com/business/g/gentle/

Go to the bottom of the page and type in "Cell Detoxification", it'll take you to an article that may help some of you out there.


Peace Everyone,
Aurora

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#72399 - 03/12/99 08:27 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Aurora]
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More info. for Lion Pathers:

Here's a site that might be of help in decoding the Lion Path with the right herbs, planatary transits etc:

http://siriusrising.com/main.htm

Peace,
Aurora


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#72400 - 03/12/99 09:40 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Aurora]
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Aurora,

Thank you for letting us know about all of these neat sites! I went to the Sirius Rising site already, and it's great!

KJS

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#72401 - 03/29/99 07:35 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: KJS]
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I don't know anything about this Lion's Path thing, but I did read a book one time by Dr. Kathy Callahan, Our Origin & Our Destiny, and she theorized that when Atlantis broke up and some Atlanteans went to America (the original descendants of Native American Indians) and others went to Egypt, that eventually we will have, at the appointed time, the keepers of the sacred stone coming from the Indian cultures MATCHING the stones somewhere in Egypt, probably in the Hall of Records, with the same writings on them, etc.
It's a great book, I highly recommend it. She ties in the Edgar Cayce Readings with all of this.
My personal question on this thread is, does anyone know if Linda was buried or cremated or what? Just curious. And do her kids believe in astrology? It still amazes me that someone could be such a prolific, productive, brilliant writer AND have four kids, etc.
Just my tuppence.

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#72402 - 03/29/99 08:11 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Galileo]
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LOL@GALILEO!!

That's wicked funny! Especially since it IS common knowledge that the number of children a woman bears IS inversely proportional to her IQ! LOL@ANYFEMINISTWHOISPISSEDRIGHTNOW!

Man, that is so funny...it reminds me of a little story, not astrologically related, yet still kind of funny...

I was circling for a while with some Celtic Druid reconstructionists, an ADF grove, and the Senior Druid was pregnant. One day, I had read something in the newspaper that was the conclusions of a study that had found that a woman's brain actually shrinks during pregnancy. So I related what I had read to Gwynne, the preggers one, and if her Aquarian eyes did not fill with rage! I said, "what, isn't it true?" She couldn't muster a response, and we all laughed for a good spell over that...

maybe you had to be there...

Anyways, I am just kidding around, Galileo...it is actually a good point...as in, when the hell did she find time??? Did she have an au pair or something?

Good question too about how was Linda buried, and where...certain of us may like to make a pigrimage someday, so please let us know!

And if there are any former soldiers of the McKinnon-Dworkin brigade visiting this thread, please know that the "sex is rape" no longer represents a respectable fraction of the many faces of feminism today, not to say that it doesn't work for some. More women these days seem to lean more toward a Bright-Paglia path, you know, we like to have sex, and maybe even look at pornography, with our boyfriends and we don't really care what anyone thinks...

thank the gods...

Actually, did anyone notice when Catherine McKinnon got engaged, how she kind of abruptly ended her famous ranting. I wonder if they are still married. What a brave fellow, he..

Sorry for the tangent, that just got me going. Okay Leo planets, muzzle back on and into the cage ya go...


Blessings,

Carlo


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#72403 - 03/31/99 01:21 AM Re: Physical Immortality
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I have been discussing your questions with Crystal so here it goes, for your information........

Our darling Linda was cremated, after which her ashes were blessed and dispersed in two places, Crystal knows where but at the request of the Family and the wishes of the children this is to remain a secret.

The strangest thing happened.....when I was talking to Crystal about all of this.....she said, "Linda was CREATED" and her mouth dropped open, then she said, "I meant to say Linda was CREMATED but take out the M and it gives you created.....so maybe that was REALLY what I meant"........

Curiouser and curiouser said the cheshire cat in Alice in Wonderland.......(it was the cat wasn't it)

Love and Laughter,
Kelly-Anne


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#72404 - 03/31/99 01:54 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Kelly-Anne]
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Kelly-Anne,

Oh, it was the infamous Alice who said "curioser and curioser", I believe. I love Alice in Wonderland, it holds special meaning which I keep close to my heart. Peter Pan, too.

Thank you for telling us this information. We all hold such sacred information dear to us, I am sure.

LMB


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#72405 - 03/31/99 01:57 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: LMB]
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Something I just noticed: funny that this questioning of cremation/creation of LG should be discussed on the Physical Immortality board. I know there are heated debates going on about the topic but at least we can be sure sure sure that there is Spiritual Immortality, at the very least (most?). Oh one can soar with thoughts on where Linda's bright shining Spirit is now.

LMB


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#72406 - 04/07/99 04:50 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: LMB]
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To everyone who has replied to this thread:
Is anyone in the process of this fascinating topic? If so, please relate on your journey.

I've also noticed that the sentiment of physical immortality is somewhat on a down note. Could this be due to the fact of Linda's passing. Do you now think that it's unachievable?

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#72407 - 04/07/99 05:02 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Laurentino & Veronica]
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Dear Tino and Veronica,

I DO think that physical immortality is acheivable!!!!
I have seen people start on it and start having a head full of black hair where there where absolute white ones,in a matter of an year.and with no illnesses.

Another way to it is thru pranic healing and reaching the alpha state during meditation and programming the cells with the immortality wish.The subconscious mind listens best than the conscious one and so doing this under meditation is good.im doing that myself.I just got rid of arthiritic pains in one week!its a record!
If u want further information on this technique,i could write down the contact address for this therapy centre.its founder is master choa kok sui.the centre is situated in Manila,Phillipines,called the Pranic healing foundation inc.
hope that helped!
shagun.

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#72408 - 04/10/99 06:39 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: shagunj]
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Hello Tino and Veronica

I KNOW that Cell Regeneration is achievable,because I expereinced it briefly some years ago and it is a most amazing feeling. If you ever have to wonder if it is working or not then I can guarantee you that it is not!!..

For myself the surprise was, not that it didn't last but that it happened at all ,you see I didn't exactly fit the bill,as a farmer who reared animals for slaughter(SET-LAUGHS)

I had a copy of the Lion Path but I have since given it to people with knowledge of the Egyptian Mysteries,as it is too advanced for me to comprehend(by the way the Author may be Charles Muses,Lindas friend,using the pseudonym of Musaios)

The times for entering the pathways are over now or will be sometime this year,but do not worry as one door never closes but another opens.The lion(ess) Path was published out of Canada when I got it so the adress in STAR SIGNS is probably outdated.

Hope that helps

EASTER Really is TRUTH,and so is the Saturn-Seven Cycle, but thats another story.

Best Wishes

Michael

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#72409 - 04/11/99 08:28 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Michael you stated that you briefly "felt immortality". What sort of sensations were you feeling? What were you doing at the time that led to this realization?

Why was it so fleeting and will you be using the same method, if any was applied, to achieve it once again?

What reference did you use to obtain your remark on the "closing of pathways"?

One last thing, "SET- LAUGHS"???

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#72410 - 04/12/99 09:34 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Laurentino & Veronica]
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Hi again L & V

I have posted a detailed account of my experiences on another forum,the adress i http://members.aol.comK3774K/Astro/mssgbd.html
What I experienced was Cell Regeneration, not Physical Immortality,which can only be achieved when all your Karma has been paid in full.

Here is a brief account of what I experienced .....the tingling sensation of the skin under my eyes was all I noticed or felt as I Imaged my cells reversing their spirals and then Ordained it just before going asleep. Next morning VIOLA !!! it had happened,only a slight pull of gravity just enough to stop me floating ,JOY swelling like a balloon,electrical impulses coursing through my body,everything Linda describes in STAR SIGNS...sparkling eyes,musical intonations yes subtle but unmistakable,prophetic dreams,less sleep required. Any professional athelete who achieves Cell Regeneration will win any race if they so choose.

When it ended I felt gravity as a very heavy hand indeed, just think and feel for a moment what GRAVITY is doing to you,sometimes we may think our current situation is normal...it is NOT!!!

I continue to try and achieve it again,I probably suceeded that first time because my vibratory frequency was raised sufficiently by reading STAR SIGNS,just enough for a demonstration so to speak.

The reference I made to "pathways" was taken from the LION(ESS) PATH although now that I remember, it was "walkways". Musaios used the anology of a Supermarket to explain what would happen anyone entering the path as these unusual planetary configurations came to an end...... you enter the store and when ready to leave,exit via the checkout. When it comes to closing time,the stores doors are locked,anyone inside can continue to shop and are allowed to leave,yet no more new customers are allowed to enter.

If you are interested in achieving Physical Immortality changing your name to Tino exclusively might be a help as it will give you the compound 17 the number of Immortality. Nice name Veronica,Jupiter vibes!

See the Lexigram thread.

Rainbow blessings

Michael


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#72411 - 05/02/99 11:27 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Greetings

Hi Michael - your experience with Cell Regeneration is fascinating!!! As terrific as your putting together Dr. Charles Muses being Musaios.

The Lion Path is out of print and hard to come by, but thanks for the clue that it is now published out of Canada. I had been searching for the longest time for it as well as for the Golden Sceptre Publishing Company at two different California addresses. I now have "Book Look" searching for me.

Linda "warns us in Star Signs that THE LION PATH is "fathoms deep" and assures us that the eleven steps of her easier to follow path, outlined in chapter 9, will get us there as surely as the more complex path of THE LION PATH" until that day that "the student is ready".

I would love to hear of other's experiences with acquiring the books prescribed on the "Pilgrim's Progress" list and how meaningful they found them pertaining to Linda's teachings. One thing I think we would all agree on, is nobody could tell of "the Knowing Things" like Linda.

When you discuss physical immortality and Linda's life and "death" you naturally get into very deep waters...

Looking so forward to future discussions on this...

Love, Magic & Peace Profound
*****essence*****


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#72412 - 05/05/99 08:25 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Hi Essence,

You know,..I feel I am drowning sometimes,..the waters are that deep!

Linda writes in GOOBERZ "the events themselves did actually occur and are as real as the paper of the page you now hold in your hands..
but...to whom did they occur?

it shouldnt matter about whom the truth is written
as long as what is written is truth"

It is a bit like that with my story,..Michael did experience Cell Regeneration in June of 1993, he read Gooberz over Christmas of 1994/95 and left without a word in July of 1995!.....confusing?..well if you understand the Saturn Seven Cycle,..then you know why Linda uses terms such as "him of you" You of him" "me of me" etc. Now it is one thing telling about an experience with Cell Regeneration,..not many buy it,..but people generally don't call one mad, to your face at least, (sometimes I wish they would)

The Saturn Seven Cycle is a different animal altogether and doesn't lend itself easily to relation. I have never really discussed this before,..but maybe it will be of help to someone,..somewhere,..sometime...

The truth is that, I am not the same MIchael (Mind and Soul) that experienced Cell Regeneration,..same body temple though,..Saturn was in Pisces in July of 1995
making a return to it's natal position in Michaels horoscope,..... having left my previous body temple due to death,.. I took over the lease on Michaels temple and I don't know where he travelled to,...nobody noticed the change of course (including myself) hardly surprising as the Saturn Seven Cycle would be common knowledge if they did.

Within a month or so of taking residence in the new temple,...I was magnetically drawn back to the one who was so heartbroken at my leaving (and so hurt) of course at this stage I had no inkling of what was afoot ,...and there was no recognition on either of our parts (well not on mine anyway).

I was making contact on a conscious level to find out what she thought of "Star Signs", well she absolutely loved it,..and I was invited for lunch and a discussion on the book,..I decided to bring GOOBERZ, along
with a few other books, David G Sikes writes in the introduction to GOOBERZ "that it will mean something to you in a personal sense,.that's a guarantee." now that didn't seem to be the case with me (although I did see a rainbow through the snowshowers when I first read it) (previous owner speaking). Anyway hoping that it might have a personal meaning for my by now friend,...I brought it along, after lunch I mentioned how we were both linked by the number 8,...she had spotted that too,..but we were not overly concerned as we figured whatever karma we shared it could be worked out and that there was nothing to fear.

I had learned some days before this meeting (through a chance remark from someone who hadnt an inkling that I knew this person) that she had suffered a bereavement (not a mate) some years earlier. We had a nice meal and chat and I asked her to read Gooberz before the other books that I had left, it was getting dark on this January evening,..and as I was about to leave,..she asked did I hear birds singing,..I wasn't sure but ventured that it might be a Robin, thinking of GOOBERZ,.....Oh I hope not was all she said removing her glasses to wipe her eyes.

Later that night the full implications of our relationship dawned on me and I can't describe my feelings, it just felt as if I had been hit with a sledgehammer,...whether this story ends on a glad or sad note remains to be told,...even though we talked again she would not discuss GOOBERZ. I guess you could say I was all at sea for a long while,...even now I keep my "Expect A Miracle" card between pages 556-557 of (Happiness pOem part one) GOOBERZ

It's still not too late to expect a Miracle seeing as today vibrates to the number of Expect A Miracle 5

Perhaps none of this makes any sense,...but that's just the way it is!

Love

Michael


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#72413 - 05/05/99 09:37 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Dearest Michael,

Now I am the one drowning, in these oh, so deep waters. I have a million and one questions for you. And I can't even begin to ask you, because I need to take this all in. I do want to thank you so much for sharing this. I don't think I can express to you the depth of my feelings at this moment. Please allow me to come up for air ...

Much Love
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#72414 - 05/05/99 09:41 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Dear Michael,

I fear I'll be getting too personal if I ask you questions, so I won't unless you tell me it's ok. But I do hope you never stop "Expecting a Miracle" because from the amazing things you told me, you've already had a very big one. So how can anything else seem too good to be true? And please don't ever accept anything as "just the way it is"... If you ever feel like going into more detail - I'll be waiting with those one million questions I already mentioned. It is all just so amazing.

May I ask you one question, now, tho? Would you please tell me how you were drawn to Linda Goodman in the first place and was it an instant thing, to fall into it - so to speak, or did that happen later?

Much Love, Magic & Peace Profound
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#72415 - 05/06/99 10:12 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Michael, I imagine it's been so quiet on this thread because no one knows quite what to say. That was an amazing story. I would like to hear more; yet, like Essence, I feel how deeply personal and difficult to speak of this is for you, and don't want to crowd you. Just wanted to add my encouragement, though.
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#72416 - 05/07/99 01:12 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Gregory]
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Hi Gregory,

Thanks for the encouragment,...I have been away from the computer, so that's the only reason I haven't replied to Essence yet,...wish I had your clarity of expression though,...it would be a great help!...thanks for the 27


Hi Essence,

You are a dear too , please feel free to ask questions about anything at all, it may not be the alloted time for some answers though ...seriously, I am in a bit of a rush now, so I will get back tonight to answer the questions you posed above, glad to know that you are a believer ( in magic! ) much thanks for the encouragment, deep down I am still wishing on a Star* thank you again

Much Love

Michael


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#72417 - 05/07/99 07:49 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Dear Michael,

Till then please HURRY back...

Love
essence


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#72418 - 05/07/99 08:13 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Dear Essence,

Your question of how I was drawn to Linda Goodmans books,..is interesting,...it goes back to my dawning awareness of the unseen realms,..some years back. So it is a good place to start,..at around that time I had cause to re-evalute my priorities and goals,..following a difficult period in my life,which culminated as Saturn aspected my natal Sun in 1990,..this soul searching continued until 1992,..when I came to realise that there must be more important things in life than trying to accumulate wealth. You could say that I had my fill of the "cold ambition of Capricorn".

Now that my mind wasn't so occupied with money ,..I began to wonder what our existence was really all about,..around this time I noticed an advert in some magazine,..about astral projection,and how to achieve it. The concept seemed incredible to me,..but I though what the heck, I will check it out.

The occultist who authored the small pamphlet ,..outlined one particular way to achieve a conscious projection,..which was based on the axiom that "energy follows thought" ..the idea was,..if one could think a conscious thought,..while dreaming... that they were experiencing an astral projection,..then it would occur.

A few nights later,..I thought this to myself (I am experiencing an astral projection). I actually thought that I was awake but I must have been somewhere between worlds,...well the instant the thought was completed a wave of energy swept through my entire body,..from head to toe in a twinkling!,..and then back up just as swiftly to my head again,..ending in a very loud pop in my ears ,..I awoke feeling very disoriented.... (No I didn't have to pinch myself to see if I was awake,..because my ears hurt for several days after!)

At this stage I knew that there was more to life than met the eye,..but I was disturbed also,..that the occult was real,only seeded more questions and the witch/warlock who had written this manual on broomstick travel offered no guidance,...except to elaborate on the advantages in influencing others through suggestion while they slept,.. along with various other dubious practices,..you have to appreciate that I was a complete novice in such matters ,..but with a Scorpio Moon there was never a chance that I was just going to say "leave well enough alone"

I was desperately needing guidance as to the nature of what I had encountered. Was it the work of the devil as the Church taught,..I wasn't a fervent believer in the Catholic faith I must admit,..too many "non sequiters" as Linda would say,..I needed to find out more. I thought perhaps I might find some other books that would throw more light on the subject,..and sure enough...while undertaking a thorough search of all the books at home,..I came across an old hardcover with the title "Strange Conflict",..one look inside the cover and I knew I had found something. With headings like,.."The Great God Pan" it would surely contain something of relevance,..now Strange Conflict was an occult novel written by the well known english author Denis Wheatley,..and here I was first introduced to the age old truth of reincarnation, within it's pages (of course I had heard of it before but not in a meaningful context).Quite a good yarn,..I would recommend it. Set during the second world war,..it focused on astral projection to a large degree.

After reading it I decided to postpone any ventures into the astral realms,..as I still needed something more to discern brass from gold.

Then one fine Summers day in June of 1993,..while browsing in a local bookshop, I happened to pick a paperback off the shelf with the title "Linda Goodmans Star Signs",..my first thought was ,..oh just astrology (I believed astrology began and ended in newspapers zodiac columns back then)after a very brief perusal I thought that it might contain something useful!

From the first page on.......

As you said Essence,..it was an instant thing to fall in,...it all made so much sense,..I just couldn't put it down and I kept thinking "thank God for Linda Goodman"
It took four or five days to read.

The night I finished the chapter on Physical Immortality,...I tried the Image...Ordain...Manifest technique,...it was a Saturday night / Sunday Morning.

I have already outlined the effects of Cell Regeneration,...the feeling of JOY was exhilarating ,..and on the physical level I could run much faster,..jump noticably higher,..the one thing I forgot was to weigh myself!. An experience never to be forgotten. And now you know that it was the Him of Me that experienced it and not my s-elf.

When Saturn aspects it's natal position,..by conjunction square or opposition only, in a persons Horoscope,..then the body temples owner may leave (or stay) it can be difficult to tell....

Does that answer your first question,..Essence? I bet you fell into Linda's books immediately,..as well. As I said before you sound like a Believer,..or maybe you KNOW, if there is anything else you are wondering about,..please ask! I feel it is important everyone should know of the very real Truths Linda revealed,...despite the f-acts. I will elaborate more on the Saturn Seven Cycle next time,..but I must respect the privacy of the other person involved.

I am sure you must have some things you would like to share as well!?

Love

Michael


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#72419 - 05/08/99 12:09 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Dear Michael,

I was glad to see you were here...

Your post's just mesmerize me and I can't stop expressing deep, heartfelt thanks to you for your generosity...

My grandmother had bought SUN SIGNS when it came out (I was about 9) and I would read it all the time and think how special was this pretty lady who wrote this book and what a great writer she was. And of course she made me feel glad to be a Pisces (another of her gifts - that she made everyone feel good). Ten years later, I took my first apartment and LOVE SIGNS was the first hardcover I bought for myself (I still have it, my friend has repaired the spine for me a few times and the dust-jacket is gone, but it is a 'treasure'). When people touch it, they always remark on the good vibe they get (nowadays it's retired, I only loan out the soft-cover). Of all the people I've lent it to, I could never persuade any of them to read the whole book, cover to cover. How sad, as it is "chock full of esoteric confetti" (as Linda would say). In any event, her "Carousel Message to Sally" just touched my heart so deeply I have never, ever forgotten just how much, and so it was there and then that this great Lady left such an indellible impression on me. However, even though I went on to read many metaphysical books over the ensuing years, I inexplicably put Linda's work's on hold. I'm sure you know how one book will lead you to another and so on, I was "led" to the Jane Robert's "Seth Books" - interestingly, when I "discovered" them they were out of print, yet on my mind heavily and soon after, they were back in print. They were fascinating, but they gave me the creeps. Linda popped into my mind and I knew I had to see what she would say. Now what is really wyrrd to me (only b/c I am always in book stores and yet I never knew it existed) - is that I found Star Signs at least 6 years after it's publication. After that I really wasn't interested in any other metaphysical authors (not counting novels). When I finally found Gooberz, well, it was like the Christmas present I'll never forget. I pick it up almost every day. I KNOW that Linda was/is definately a Wayshower!!!

I also tried astral projection (but it was "taught" to me in a different form than you described) and I couldn't believe that my 1st try was so successful and being the scaredy cat that I am, I quit and never tried it again. Though I was tempted once.

I love the way you described the sensation of being "somewhere between the worlds" - it is such a lovely way to put where we really are in between the "wakefulness of sleep and the sleep of wakefulness".

Can you please tell me when "Strange Conflict" was published, I would like to try and find it.

I am incredibly fortunate to "know" one who has mastered cell regeneration and I really wish I could "see" you, why not consider having Gregory post a picture of you?

Lastly, I never thought of the "ambition of Capricorn" as cold...

Much, Much Love & Magic
***essence***


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#72420 - 05/08/99 08:50 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Dear Essence,

I loved reading your post,your writing has such a nice soft feeling to it,..Ruth Cook,..linda's best friend is a Pisces too,..so you are in good company! Thank you for sharing your voyage of discovery too.

I bought Sun Signs myself a short while after reading Star Signs and was disappointed at first that it didn't contain more secrets of the Universe,..you see I had never heard of these books before then,..despite Sun Signs being an international bestseller. Just like the delay you encountered in finding Star Signs,..I almost missed GOOBERZ,..I remember phoning Mandrake Press in England to enquire if GOOBERZ had been published,..the lady I spoke to informed me that,yes it had been available for a few years,..somewhile later I rang back on another matter, a salesperson told me that no such book was listed,...they only had Sun Signs, Love Signs etc...so I guess you could say if the time isn't right Fate has a way of concealing things. Love Signs is a very special book ,...I agree with you there completely. I often turn to it for inspiration when those Saturnine spells descend! In Peter Pan, tinkerbell (I think) says that,..when someone expresses their disbelief in fairies,..one dies,..Linda said it was a similar case with astrology,..relationships die when people don't believe astrology can help them to understand one another better. That for me is the magic of Love Signs understanding one another and discovering why we act as we do!

I would love to hear more about the astral projection,..only if you feel like telling of course! I haven't tried myself for for a good while,..after I read the lobsang Rampa book "You Forever",..I tried on a few occasions,..but never got completely free of the physical,...I had always hated the sensation of falling......... when I would seem to hit the bed with an almighty thud! it always happened on the verge of sleep at times when I was physically exhausted,..I later learned that the astral seperated more swiftly from the physical when one was extremely tired,..the physical would not have relaxed sufficiently for a smooth parting and a twich of an aching muscle was all that was required to jerk back the astral (I hate the sensation) Everyone experiences it from time to time no doubt.

Strange conflict should be available in libraries,..as Wheatley was a bestselling author in his time ,..the copy I have is a "Book Club" hardback printed on wartime paper,it was published in 1942,..the same year as the story takes place (I think the years are right as I am writing from memory,..my copy being on loan. Now I haven't read any of his other occult novels,...one,"The Devil Rides Out" was made into a movie. Strange Conflict is well written in my opinion,..just don't take it too seriously! and if you were thinking of trying to achieve astral projection again, it might put you off,..or maybe not! Try used bookstores,..as his works were reprinted many times,..as I said I can only vouch for Strange Conflict" I forgot to mention last time that I am trying to locate another copy of "The Lion(ess)" Path,..Essence..so if I have any success I will let you know.


Into deeper waters..........

I have just scrolled up to my original post on the Saturn Seven Cycle and reading it,..I realise that it is not very clear (it's a difficult subject to explain but I suffer from some Saturn restriction in the expression department too,..so I will try my best this time.

If someone died that you love deeply,..would you be likely to even consider that a stranger could be one and the same as the one so intensley grieved for,..very unlikely is the answer, I feel,..if one was a student of Linda's possibly,.. but it could be a disturbing experience. This is where one of the greatest obstacles lies,...even Linda who was so sensitive and aware could not accept what the stranger told her on that snowy day in Cripple Creek, Colorado, and had to meet one who had an identical body temple to her dearly departed twin,...she then realised that an identical body temple could not satisfy her yearning to be united once again,..so it is what is inside that really counts.

I put myself into the place of the one who's life had been devestated by the suicide of her only child,...and realised how difficult it would be to even explore the possibility of the Saturn Reincarnational Cycle with her.

So I said nothing,..even though I had several cosmic confirmations of the Truth of the situation,..I made some small errors in my early conclusions,..but eventually all fitted into place,..she was an author,..so when I was struggling to stay afloat,...I tried what many do......I picked up one of her books and opened it at random...........[it was sometime after my son had died].......and again.......[could she be your mother]

There was even one joint revelation where we were both present,..in a hotel in Dublin,..where a medium was bringing messages from the other side.....she had the task of introducing this English Spiritual Medium,....and she had her reading done in private beforehand,....my turn came,..the medium discerned that I had been "all at sea",..so to speak,I wasn't too bad at that stage and thought she was exaggerating (she mixed up past with future)

At one point,she said that she often heard songs......from the other side.....she continued,...."the Robin,..he sings a merry little song",...there was a loud gasp from somewhere behind me in the audience and I knew that it was "she",(there was a small crowd there)

I believe she invited me to go to this spiritualist reading to confirm that my departed relatives would come through just like most of the rest,..and she could rest her mind somewhat at ease that Gooberz was not real,..I didn't get an opportunity to talk with her that night,..but I telephoned a few days later and exchanged small talk,..she said she thought my reading was accurate.

The Robin is obviously a messenger of the Gods,...in the beginning I thought that her sons name must be Robin,..due to the reaction it caused when I first mentioned it,..I was tempted to go to the local newspaper offices and find out his name,..date of death and the circumstances,..but I felt that this would not be right,..so I waited and one day while I was burning a stack of old farming journals,..I noticed a heading on the cover of one paper "suicide in rural Ireland". I thumbed through it quickly and another of these moments of fate was upon me,..the article was about her and her tragic experience,....now I knew the sons name and when he died.

After reading Star Signs I had added an initial to my name to give the compound number of 25 which was one less than it originally vibrated to. I did notice at that time,.....that if I added one letter to the surname and dropped the initial I would have quite a favourable number. I went for the initial instead as I didn't think changing the spelling of my surname would be as easy to manifest.

His name vibrated to 22 + 28 which reduce to the compound 23.......then I realised that with the letter U added to Osborne (both common ways to spell the name,..for instance Joan Osborne,.. the singer.. and the female lead character's name, "Osbourne" in the film "message in a bottle".. with the added U both our names matched,..Michael = 22 Osbourne = 37 which reduces to the compound 23....."his name" 22 + 28 = 23 as well!

So now my name is Michael Osbourne.


I spoke to her twice more after that before we lost contact. I really felt so badly for her,..the grief must be almost unbearable to roll the Saturn stone from the Easter cave,...then things started to look up for her and she achieved great success in her work,..this eased my concern somewhat.

If the Miracle had happened what would the effect be on my own family?.....Linda grew and knew,......I don't know how this story will end,..but it hasn't reached a final conclusion yet,..that I am sure of. You know in a way it is a relief to tell this and maybe it will be of help to someone.

Thanks for being so understanding Essence

Love

Michael

P.S. I asked a man I work with,.. about the Robin,..he told me that his mother would be in a state, if a Robin flew into the home,..."the Robin brings hasty news" he said


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#72421 - 05/09/99 02:50 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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WOW!!!

Dearest Michael,

Please don't get upset if I have grossly mis-interpreted your story, but are you saying that you were/are that author's son?

If that is correct, then I feel so sad that you were so distraught before. If that is incorrect, will you please try to tell me again?

I have not yet mastered total understanding of the Saturn-Seven Cylce and since talking to you I feel like I get it even less. I had been posting you a reply and I even quoted something from page 524 of Star Signs, when I went back to your post to verify something and lo and behold, [what I thought you had 'said' about not being able to attain physical immortality until you paid off your karma] was not there, isn't that wyrrd? So I deleted that post and started over.

Anyway, before I knew about physical immortality I don't know what I would have thought. But as a student of Linda's, I really do see death differently (unnecessary and unnatural). And yes I knew exactly what she meant about wanting the Carousel Bill's SAME everything, however, as you recall, once she knew Gooober was really him, it didn't matter. Yet with a child, is it the same consolation? I don't know, I guess in the end it would be.

Part of my confusion with the SSC is, for example - "Michael left without a word and no one knows where he went" (sorry if the quote is not exact) - how does that work? Where does the original tenant go? Doesn't "that" spirit/mind miss everyone who was in their life in the newly given-up body temple?

It is almost 5 am here in Fun City, I really must go now but as usual I look forward to your return.

At this moment, I think you will hear from 'her' again. What will you tell your family? Did you inherit a family when you took over the lease on your present temple? How did that go?

And last but not least, how come a farmer stays up so late?

Slan
essence


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#72422 - 05/09/99 10:08 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Greetings

Dear Michael,

Now that I have bombarded you with questions, you probably will no longer think of my posts, as having such a "nice, soft feel" to them - sorry, I guess my Leo Moon & Capricorn Ascendant were showing b/c it was so late ...

Funny you should mention Ruth Cook. Because I often think of her. Do you recall that Linda not only put a dedication to her in STAR SIGNS & GOOBERZ, but also mentioned her so often in each of them, as well as in LOVE SIGNS? I have even told Crystal that maybe she should look to speak to her, for answers to a lot of things.

Anyway, I am going to post a lexigram I did of the Carousel Bill and maybe you will be interested, especially b/c of your story...

The one time I tried Astral Travel, I did not have any thuds or any other kind of crashing sensations, when I came back into my physical body (which really was right away)...

Much Love
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#72423 - 05/09/99 10:44 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Dear Essence,

I am always looking forward to your posts too!

You know what is really wyrrd,..I DID say what you quoted,..but realised shortly after I had posted it,that my definition was wrong,..so thanks for putting me back on the right path!,..I take it you were going to quote what Linda said on page 524,.. about achieving Physical Immortality and paying your karmic debts without the amnesia of reincarnation,..right? whereas I said Physical Immortality couldn't be achieved until all karma was balanced,..you were quite correct in spotting that goof of course,..but as I am sure you are aware there are certain debts that must lead to death eventually,..no matter how adept you are. The Bible says,..God did not create death... and... Death is the wages of sin, these are not exact quotes,..no chapter and verse! I dip into it now and again,..and since reading Linda's books it makes much more sense to me. I can discern more easily the truth in it from the parts where "man has created God in his own image",.. rambling again!

Back to death,..cell regeneration is the beginning of one of the paths leading to enLIGHTENment and Physical Immortality,..which can only be achieved when two Twin S-Elves are joined together again, becoming one perfect snowflake guiding man and woman in Love and Light,...does that sound better!?

The phrase "time and gravity" Lexigrams into,.....TRAGEDY...also...GRAVE

time re-versed is....EMIT,...so to reverse GRAVITY one must emit thought forms which are not liMITEd by the illusion of time.

So lets do our best to avoid the gravity yard.

Yes I am the same Mind and Soul that was her son,..Essence,..I truly believe that (by the way the Lexigrams of "believe" and "miracle" which Linda decoded in Star Signs are my two all time favourites!)

The questions you pose about the Saturn Seven Cycle are very understandable,..and believe me, they have troubled me too,..I may have an idea about some of them,...but there is so much that I am still not aware of. When I first read GOOBERZ,I never for an instant dreamed that I would experience such a thing as the Saturn Seven Cycle,..for one thing,..I didn't think thar I would need to,..being determined to master Cell Regeneration. Of course it manifested a Miracle for linda and Gooober,..but it troubled me that such movement between temples was so ethereal,...how could one judge his/her progress in the game of life,..it seemed you went asleep in one house and woke up in another and never even noticed the difference,..the web of karmic lace must be incredibly intricate for such a thing to occur (I believe it is)

Essence,...your question about Michael leaving troubled me once too,..until I remembered that it is the Higher S-Elf who chooses to go or stay and not the self.

Yes to your other question too,..I have a family whom I care for very much,...so that is my dilemma,...why do I feel so heavy of heart,...there was no recognition on my part,..yet it must be an inner awareness.

You wanted me to post my pic!....aah....but I'm afraid I am pretty computer illiterate,...a jpg file..huh?...so perhaps I could convey an image to you ,...think of Mel Gibson!,...we share a birthday..Jan 6..although I once saw somewhere that he was born on the 4th,..but I think it's the sixth,cos....

MEL GIBSON

453 312375
=12 =21 =33 =6!

Only joking!..the only physical characteristics we share are blue eyes. When I was a nipper ,...we didn't own a television,..so my father would drive myself and a cousin over to my aunts house to watch programs there. Hawaii Five-O and Dustys Trail (ahem..) were my favourites. Steve McGarret was my fave TV character,...do you remember as the camera swooped in towards the top of the building and the dark suited cop swung around ! I used to think that was who I would like to be,..anyway when Jack Lord passed on last year I looked on the internet to see was there anything there about his life,...I remember my National (grade) school teacher saying that he was Irish and had changed his name to Jack Lord,..there were a lots of sites dedicated to him, his original name was very Irish sounding,..can't remember it now, and it was his father who was Irish,..guess what, Jack Lord was a cappy too! although I don't know the date of birth (guess I should be going to the celebrity forum 2 with this!)

So thats how you can image me,..dear essence...although I actually look more like Dusty!

So mite to go, are you a native New Yorker,Essence?... nice to see you can speak "as gaeilge" some Irish roots?

I think I saw on another thread,..that you said you had an affinity with Italy and all things Italian,..thats a bit of a coincidence,..I seem to be drawn to Italy myself lately,...it must be their passion which I admire (Italy being a Leo country)

Did you think I was up late?! I thought 4 am was pretty early myself,..Essence but I can understand how you might be confused,..being in the City that never sleeps,..you were up pretty early/late yourself

Love and Magic!

Michael


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#72424 - 05/09/99 10:55 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Dear Essence'

Crossed Posts!!

I had my answers all ready to send last night and couldn't make a connnection when I tried to submit the post,...see what I said about LEO!,..... if it please's your majesty ..... You've lovely Piscean qualities which I really like,...and as for Cappy..well druid said "birds of a feather flock together"

Love

Michael


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#72425 - 05/10/99 10:56 AM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Dear Michael,

I guess I was not paying attention to how funny you are!!! Don't you know by now, it wouldn't matter if you did look like Mel Gibson [a girl can dream, eh?] ONLY KIDDING... When I look at a picture of Linda - I just see a "certain, special something" and I noticed this same quality when I once saw a photo of Ralph Bergstresser. So I just was curious to see you b/c I'm sure you must have it too (druid honor). All the men in my family just love Hawaii Five-O and Jack Lord too.

Michael you spelled druid with a capital D, I'm sure it was just a typo...

If you lexigram weird - you get die, however when spelled wyrrd - you get wry, dry (words I happen to associate with humor)...

I was going to quote (from pg.524) the bit about "choosing eternal life in your present flesh body...choosing NOT to die, etc...will negate a great deal of the unpleasant karma of past incarnations." So my take on this, was that by one just KNOWING the truth about physical immortality, they had an instant payoff on (at least some of) their karmic debt.

In reference to "the web of karmic lace" (that is so nice) I agree it seems 'incredibly intricate'. 1st off, not everyone switches temples at their SSC. Somehow, I get the feeling the ones who do,(of course having already chosen this when planning out all details of their present incarnation, w/out any conscious recollection of it at the 'time' when in their original (from 'birth') flesh temple [which they will leave at the SSC], at least, not until after they've switched temples) well, that the ones who do - it is part of their own cosmic mission to change temples. [i.e. the Carousel Bill and even yourself] I do think many others fulfill their destiny w/o switching bodies.

I still have so much to learn in regards to where you said "it seems you went to sleep in one house and woke up in another and never even noticed the difference". I'm sure that is the way it is, at least on one level, but what about the rest? My feeling that there is more to it, is what I would like to learn about.
Is this aspect of it made any clearer in the Lion(ess) Path? I highly doubt it, not only because Linda told us it was 'fathoms deep' but, really, who has ever made anything any clearer than Linda? I am sure whatever aspects of this topic she did not delve deeper into with us, was of course for the usual reason ... The allotted time being intertwined with our S-elves 'remembering' at their own allotted time...

As for me I am determined to become a Lady Master in this flesh body, but I do know to never say never (except with Universal Truth).

Nationality wise, I am very much a hybrid. Yes, I am part Irish & Scottish and I have an affinity for all of Great Britain, but especially for Scotland. But I am also part Italian. Have you ever been to Italy? How about the States?

I took a few Gaelic lessons in the back room of an Irish bar here called "Rocky Sullivans", have you heard of it? But I'm afraid I can only speak 'as Gaeilge' a wee bit. I always wanted to learn and then one fine day I read that Gaelic was the 'language of heaven' and that was it. Even though I do know that English rules, I will be fluent in Gaelic one day, in the scottish dialect also. Probably around the same time I get my castle in Scotland - you will drop by, won't you?

It is always 'buttacrack' to stay up very late. I love to sleep but never seem to go to bed.

You really are very funny...

Much Love - essence


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#72426 - 05/12/99 05:58 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
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Dear Essence,

Wyrrd is the word! the word druids must be beaming in delight at you now!

All things Bright and Beatiful
All things Wyrrd and Wonderful

Yes some things are wyrrd (magical!) and other things are just plain weird (death)

Wyrrd
61224
= 15 (The Magican)

And here's an interesting thing,

Wyrrdr
612242
= 17 (the Capricorn sense of humour,..wry and dry)

It just gets wyrrdr and wyrrdr!!

I had been doing a bit of tidying up on a few of my posts,you know,.. a ' here and there. SHOCK HORROR!!! I noticed that I had spelled the pOets name with a capital D,...now I am usually very careful about this,..knowing the difference between the two. Thanks for pointing the goof out though, it's nice to know you realise the significance,..although I never really thought otherwise. And now after reading your comments on Cell Regeneration and the Saturn Seven Cycle,..I wonder would you like to post a pic on the forum! you explained everything so clearly,..I think you must have those EYES,..you know?....the ones that can SEE forever,..YES! I thought so!!

"What about the rest?" in reference to the SSC,..here are a few extracts from GOOBERZ,..just to RE-MIND myself as well.

"but of course! all things in existence
are measured by - and manifest through - vibrations
for,vibrations are the throbbing heartbeat
of life itself

although few are aware of it
all odors, scents and fragrances
are the vibrations of.....released vital energy
registered through the sense of smell"

So that would explain how the "not really dead" ones individual body scent is the same in the new body temple that the Spirit,Mind and Soul control

Here is another extract, page 556

"yes,urges it to choose another adult body temple quickly
another painted horse to ride on life's carousel - near to the bereaved
in some way I have not learned - but will
for a time,holding back the truth from the blindly grieved
deep behind the eyes..which are truly the windows of the soul

and if the one crushed with such an unbearable weight
will but look and listen,with the spirits sensitive awareness

and be ready

the proof will soon be seen and heard
sufficient signs will be gradually given..the familiar words
the recognition..the secrets no one else could know or remember
a laugh..a manner of speaking..a walk..a shrug
or a turn of the head just so..

and then - oh then! the heart will know
the re-kindled ember
yes,yes - the heart will know!

One thing I have noticed for the past while is that I do laugh differently,..being actually surprised at times,to hear how different it is from the way I used always laugh before.

Last night I happened to glance down at a book "she" had written, Love Signs was lying on top of it,..and the last two letters of her first name were only visible and the last two letters of her surname,..like this,

NA
ER

Heathcliffe quotes Emerson

"nothing is really dead...
people feign themselves to be dead
...endure mock funerals
and mournful obituaries
while...there they stand!

looking out the windows...of the souls eyes
in some strange,new disguise!

This is actually a reincarnation of my last post,which seems to have disappeared into hyperspace during the mite when the server was down. I explained what I thought the Lion(ess) Path was about,..and then after posting my reply I hopped over to Star Chat and saw where Crystal was very kindly making you a gift of "The manual of the short path" it has manifested at last! LUCKY YOU!!
So maybe it is just as well my akward attempts at explaining it escaped! now I would really like to hear your opinions on the work? is your copy published by House of Horus?

Och aye! I would love to visit when you find a nice Highland Castle,...you take the high road.......and you probably have more gaeilge than I.

Regarding travel,..believe it or not, I have never been past these shores,..though when I do Italy and America are on the cards (I wonder could I hack it in NYC,..being a rather shy ChAP)

Glad you liked the humour! I only take it out on special occasions (thank god,..say others!) wyrrd and wyrrdr are now in my vocabulary for good,thanks for the revelation Essence!

Good Luck with the Lion(ess) Path,..of course we are already on at least one of the three paths already.

Lots of Love

Michael

P.S. I am looking forward to the lexigram of the carousel Bill.


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#72427 - 05/12/99 10:35 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: Michael]
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Loc: NYC, NY, USA
Dear Michael,

Greetings...We lost our last two posts with all the technical trouble (poor Greg). So if memory doesn't fail me entirely (which it has been doing the last few days) I will try to repeat, if not word for word, at least the 'essence' of what I was saying...

1st off - wyrrd & wyrrder - thanks for doing the numerological values - don't ya (who wouldn't) JUST love 15 & 17! In fact 17 has always been my favorite number, I even got married on the 17th b/c of that!!! But I digress...

Now, do you recall asking me to check 'Dweller' for you? After dutifully doing so I started wondering if you could be 'my own Sneaky Guru' - BECAUSE I really did not care for that book [nor 'Spear of Destiny'] -
but in searching for the following reference that you asked me about:

NOTE. - BUT ONE WILL COME AFTER ME WHO SHALL TELL THEE MORE OF THE GREAT DEEP OF LIFE THAN I.
AWAIT HER WORDS. - AUTHOR

which was actually on page 250, so of course I did a lot of skimming and re-reading. And I have to say I 'saw' the book differently. Which of course was for the good towards the KNOWING and Growing things...Because I 'got' more out of it and please don't ask what, yet!
Isn't it funny how you [so generously] mention that "I seem to explain things so clearly" when I feel so UNCLEAR. And even funnier is that if you would have asked me three weeks ago, I would have definately told you that my EYES COULD SEE FOREVER. Now I can only say that yes, they can see forever, but they just don't KNOW it all the time.

Thank you for quoting Gooberz to me, but you see Michael, the biggest part of SSC that gives me so much trouble is WHERE does the one who gives up their body temple (to make it available for the one, newly departed who is coming to take over the lease) GO?

It's back to the drawing board for me...
While I once again study the lessons in Linda's beautiful words -
"... who taught me that Truth must be discovered alone in silence before it can be shared with others through words" -
(from a dedication page in Gooberz).

But regarding 'Dweller' - I'm with you, I DO think he means LINDA!

I hope your being a shy ChAP wouldn't keep you from going where you want to go...

Wasn't that so very kind of Crystal? I am still utterly surprised.

Love - essence

p.s. - "BOOK 'EM DANNO!"


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#72428 - 05/13/99 10:45 PM Re: Physical Immortality [Re: ESSENCE]
PurplePeace Offline
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Registered: 04/10/99
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Loc: Toronto, Ohio
Michael,

Essence's question about the SSC is one I've been asking myS-elf forever! What happens to the Soul who's moved out of the body temple! I sometimes feel my Souls switched at my last SSC. I've changed soooo much and started my spiritual quest shortly after the SSC! My own family told me they don't even know me anymore. The change has been that dramatic. The old me and new me are like day and night!

Then I wonder.... if I did switch at the SSC, where did the other me go? It makes me sad for some reason! I don't like to think about it bcos if I believe that I'm not me anymore... then I am gone and where did I go? ...but I'm not gone bcos I'm here! So it's the other Soul that's gone! But that was me too! I just go in circles! And I don't make any sense to me, so I Know I can't possibly be making sense to you