Hiiii Friends!!!

I have often thought about starting this thread and im finally listening to my heart while posting this.
There are so many People who are celebrities and so many of us love them so much!!They are people to be looked up to at times or to learn from at times.Whichever way,they effect our lives TREMENDOUSLY!!I really feel that!When i see Tom hanks doing an appollo 13 or mel gibson do a braveheart,or michael jackson do a moonwalk and celine dion do a titanic.It moves me to tears,it makes me sit up in excitement or just feel very warm inside!!!
Is there anyone who would like to talk about these beautiful,wonderful people on this thread?share their birthdates and birthcharts and know so much more about them?!!I would love it if you join in!!I shall be waiting impatiently!!!
Also,one small personal request...can someone tell me Michael Jacksons and Christopher Reeves moon and ascendant?!!Im just CRAZY about these guys!!!
love
shagun.

Hi Shagunj,

I am just crazy about MJ too......but I have no idea where his moon and ascendant are .....this is a great idea! Can someone help us?

I really enjoy Barbra Streisand and Whitney Houston too......certain singers just seem to put their souls into the music and when you listen to it you feel what they feel.
I believe the same of actors....certain roles are so well suited to the actor....a prime example is Braveheart with Mel Gibson I wondered if he could have been this very person in a past life!!!! His passion, his need to do this movie, how comfortable he felt in the homelands.......makes you wonder!!

Anyway, I'm glad you opened this thread because I often watch the oh so talented people we call actors and wonder how many of them have actually played the role of a previous life in one of their movies!!!!!!

Love and Laughter,
Kelly-Anne

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Michael Jackson's ascendant, like his Sun is Virgo, and his moon is in dreamy Pisces ... an almost perfect Sun/Moon opposition.

Christopher Reeve: Libra Sun and Saggitarius Moon, Leo rising.

Barbara Streisand: Taurus Sun, Leo Moon and Ascendant.

Mel Gibson: Capricorn Sun, Libra Moon, Cancer rising.

Whitney Houston: Leo Sun, Aries Moon, Pisces rising.

Sorry, I don't have Tom Hanks' at hand

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WHOOPS! Sorry, but Firesong just called my attention to the fact that the charts I have for these celebrities are based on birth date and location alone, without accurate birth times. Therefore the rising signs I have listed are not necessarily accurate. I'll try to dig up the correct birth times and post the real ascendants.

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Uh oh, (*haha*) Does Tammy know we are discussing Tom Hanks? perhaps we should bring her in on this....

LMB

Hiiii Everyone!!

woweeeee i FINALLY got michaels moon and ascendant!!!!YIPPEEEE!!And god...can u beleive it!!!!!He has a piscean moon and me a piscean sun....he a virgo sun and me a virgo moon!!!NO WONDER...i have been SO awfully crazy about him!!!He just draws me like a magnet!!!!

Yknow guys a small personal story about myself...when i was 12 years old,i had visited England for the first time.I didnt know anything about Michael then.And then this day...our television was installed.And i switched it on....and it was Michael doing his"bad"(it was the year 87).I didnt know this was Michael Jackson,i didnt even know his name!!And suddenly and slowly i just said silently..."This is Michael Jackson".My brother looked at me funnily and said"how do u know?and who is michael jackson?"I kept quiet.I just didnt feel i was in the room.I just felt i knew this man,this person who was before me.And then the name came on the tele...and it WAS michael jackson!!My brother was so stunned he was staring at me like i was a ghost.But i just had this small smile on my face...bcos i KNEW!
And ever since...i have truly loved him.It wasnt like a star craze yknow?Its so quiet,warm and true.And theres such a profound feeling that..that i know him,how hes like,how he feels,etc.I know this might sound like typical star craze or conceitedness but i m sharing this very,very pesonal experiance with you,bcos only you guys can understand what this is all about.

And today i just found out about his moon and asc...and its like a gift for my devotion.THANK YOU GREG!!!!

Dear Kathleen,could you PLEASE give me the birtchart or timing of his birth?I would be eternally greatful!!!

Oh gosh!I just feel so emotional right now,i think ill leave for a while...

meanwhile...heres a message for Tammy..
TAMMY...where are you?!!!I hope u could share ur experiances on this thread,please?
love all!and thanks sooo much!
shagun.

Hi Shagun... I shared.
Love
Tammy

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Hi Shagun, thanks.

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Kathleen, you've led such an interesting life -- I think you've got as many experiences packed into this lifetime as I have, and I have quite a few years on you!

BTW, my apologies to all but Firesong was alert enough to point out to me that the birth charts I looked at for the celebrities listed above were constructed from birthdate and place alone, without accurate birth times ... therefore the rising signs I gave are not accurate. If Kathleen or anyone else has the correct birth times for these celebrities I'll recalculate and post the correct ascendants here.

Hiii Kathleen!!!

My god!You always make me become SO excited,i cant sit in my chair!!
You ACTUALLY worked with Michael!!!!How truly,lucky you are,kathleen!!!Yes,im sure he is a LOVELY person!Yknow i was so dejected and sad the time when he was accused of child molestation!I used to cry,just bury my face in the blanket and cry for him,bcos my heart used to ache with greif.I KNEW he was innocent!!What do you think friends?I mean,about those horrid molestation charges?

You REALLY grew up near them Kathleen?!!!!!I just have these exclamations coming out of my mind!Thats really nice of you to share.How was Michael like?Was he really as shy as he depicts?Oh,before i barrage u with questions about him,ill stop right here.But this was a very,very pleasant surprise coming from you Kathleen!
Greg,i think you are right about the moon of michael i think.I just found a book at the shop on moon signs.It does say he has a piscean moon.I dont know about the rest,but i have still have to read the book.Its 'moon signs'by donna cunningham.
And yes...any information on the exact birthtimings would be wonderfully appreciated!!
And also..Tammy...that was wonderfull!!Isnt it funny though...i always wished Michael was an ordinary person and we had met..it would have been so easy to beleive.Just because he is a star,it all sounds so...so star crazish..yknow what i mean?When i KNOW that wherever he was,whatever he was,i would have known him.But unfortunately he is a star.well...never mind..im not ready to leave terra firma earth so soon...so ill wait for him in my other lifetimes.Why did HE of all the people have to be a star..and that too,so famous!!I feel so disillusioned sometimes..but i guess im clinging to what my guru said.It has lead me perfectly right till now...im se itwill further on,maybe in an after life?sighhhh...loooong time!!
thank you all!
love
shagun.

Hiii All!!

Just wanted to share something very personal that my guru told me about Michael.
It seems that he has had many incarnations of power and authority in the past.This time too,it seems like he has chosen something like that but the piscean moon must be having a big part to play!!!
Also some very strong instincts in the entity are majorly those of protection,posession,nurturing.
Is that why he LOVES children?I guess so.
Well...sighhhh...i was just told those two lines."the time is not right for u to know more".sighhh...i guess u cant argue with a guru,can u?
love
shagun.

Hi all!

well,talking of celebrity astrology,has anyone read lobsang rampa and zolars books?They are SO informative and beautiful!!

And yes...i read Dion fortunes books too.Has anyone out there read them?I would love to discuss.

Also,has anyone found out the real birth times of the stars mentioned above?Iam really wishing hard someone would!!

Thanks
shagun.

THANKS A MILLION KATHLEEN!!!
*******huge grin********

love
shagun.

HI everyone,

I would be most grateful if anyone could give me some info. on Kurt Cobain's chart and Courtney Love's. I know that he was a Pisces and she is a Cancer and I think that they both had moons in Cancer, could anyone reflect on the suicide. Also, does anyone know what sign their daughter, Frances Bean is??
Also, does anyone know what sign Frances Farmer was?? And I have been trying for years to find out what sign Virginia Andrews was *(flowers in attic ect. author)
And this is a long shot but Kathleen with her Irish connections may possess the answer, do you know what sign BONO's (U2) wife Ali is and what sign Bono's two daughters are??? Incidently, is there astrological confirmation to substantiate Bono's absolute diviness, i know he is Taurus with moon is Scorp. prehaps thats why he is the SEXIEst man alive!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for the Michael Jackson fan club, wasn't he accused of child molestation and didn't he settle out of court..I don't really know the ins and outs but personally i find it incredibly distastful and offensive...

And sorry theres one more that I need to know, does anyone know what sign Nicole Brown Simpson was and is there anything on her chart that reflects on her awful death?????

This is an absolutely fab. thread. Waiting anxiously for a responseXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.....

Hi Blue.

I was just surfing the net on the search engine infoseek with "celebrity astrology".Im sure if u do that,u would find th birth data of ANY star,u want!!Really!Only i wonder why they dont have it for michael jackson?

Oh im very sorry to hear that u beleive the charges that were put on michael.im very very sorry to hear it.But i dont blame you.The media is the culprit.
Anyhows as i had earlier questioned my friends at this site,DO you really beleive michael could do that,imean molest children.I dont think so,im saying this for i have a VERY strong feeling.But everyones entitled to their opinion.
Kelly.Anne...u like michael,do u think he is guilty?
Kathleen,u worked with michael,do u think he is guilty?
Do any of my friends here think that?I would love to know.No,no bad feelings at all.But yes,i would like to discuss this here.With so many intelligent spiritual people on the site,im sure someone would come across the truth.
thanks!
love
shagun.

I have to say I was dreadfully upset when I heard all this stuff on TV about him, I had total respect for his incredible talent of bringing people together to make dreams come true ESPECIALLY for children.....I really believe he is innocent and he works so much WITH children and raises so much money FOR children because he doesn't want any other child to NOT have a childhood, like himself.

Talented, creative, generous, spitual but so in front of the people that he was a prime target. He is DIFFERENT but in a very special way......
Anyway that's my take on it....for what it's worth.
So now, back to the thread and all the other celebrities charts
Love and Laughter,
Kelly-Anne

Yahooooo!my intuition seems to be right!!
THANKS ever soooo much Kathleen and kelly-anne.I just trusted my higher elf 50% more!!!
lots of love
shagun.

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HI, Shagun- sorry if i offended you, its just that the child abuse stuff really did disturb me and i think that child abuse is such a serious issue that the benefit of the doubt should be rendered toward the child. But i can see why he would be a target, however, surely his innocence would have lead him to contest the claim and clear his name????? i don't know.

Kathleen- you really are the luckiest person in the whole wide world. I connot believe that you met Bono, WOW. I'm soooooo in AWE. Isn't he just the the dreamiest..............
As for kurt and Courtney, i would like to know their rising signs and if it is possible to reflect from their charts whether or not kurts suicide was dubious as the Nick Broomfield documentary claimed????

And does anyone know about Frances Farmer or Virginia Andrews???????
Cheers.

Hi Blue!

I wasnt offended!!Its ok yknow.I understand.Anyway,thanks for the apology,its well accepted!
love
shagun.

Dear, dear Pixie,

Trust your imagination to start the celebrity forum trend !

I think its a fabulous idea as long as we remember that we are important too...

I am proud of you...

I have read Lobsand Rampa and I think he is one of the master-avatars of the times. YOU FOREVER is definitely a "must-read" for everyone. The magic is so practical and simple...like being there in your own backyard and you not seeing it.

The Tibetans have always impressed me. There is something so simple and sanguine about them that spells purity. I always desired a tibetan guru...i'm sure i'll have one someday - tho' i've already met him through the books. lob-"sang" as only a "ram"pa would. Boldly and courageously and to the point. Lexigrams has a way of getting into any kind of topic.

I'm so happy you liked my reply, my wise little pixie friend...

Keep this trend going...and reveal your secrets with your ever-reaching, soul-searching Piscean wisdom.

By the way, I would love to have your poems that you have printed on the "budding poets" another stupendous idea of yours, to be e-mailed to me. Love your poem - profound and stirring...send me that one please ?!!!

Hello everybody! I am loving this thread! One particular celebrity's birthdate that I've been desperately searching for is Sheryl Crow's....Her music has truly touched my soul...So many of her songs express my own thoughts and feelings...
things that I've not been able to express on my own...It would mean so much to me to know her birth info....
Love to all,
Quazar

Hi Quazar,

sometimes it pays to watch MTV...'cos that where they have the show called "birthday bumps" giving you the birthdates of the film & music celebrities.

Sheryl Crow, as I remember, is an Aquarian, but I'm afraid, I don't remember her birthday. I will look it up for you tho'

Maybe you can get it through the Internet itself...

Hope this helps...

Love
druid.

Hi Quasar,
Sheryl Crow was born February 11, 1962 which gives her an Aquarian Sun and a Taurus moon. She also has a good deal of planets in Aquarius (merc, mars, venus, jup, saturn). I do not have the time of birth but she was born in Kennett, MO.
Early in her career she toured with Michael Jackson as one of his backup singers.
Hope this helps!

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Hiii my friends!!
I dont know if all of u love michael but i do think hes one of the sweetest most spiritual people around.Very connected to his higher self.This is an excerpt iam copying from his book"dancing the dream".It would apply to all of us if we opened our third eyes and listened,read,heard....magic!!!
Wings Without Me
It was August, and I was looking up at the sky. With one hand shielding my eyes, I made out a falcon soaring on the currents of
hot swirling air. Higher and higher it spiraled, until with one unearthly shriek, it disappeared.

All at once I felt left behind. "Why did you grow wings without me?" I mourned. Then my spirit said, "The falcon's way is not
the only way. Your thoughts are as free as any bird." So I shut my eyes and my spirit took off, spiraling as high as the falcon
and then beyond, so that I was looking down over the whole earth. But something was wrong. Why did I feel so cold and
alone?

"You grew wings without me," my heart said. "What good is freedom without love?" So I went quietly to the bed of a sick child
and sang him a lullaby. He fell asleep smiling, and my heart took off, joining my spirit as it circled over the earth. I was free and
loving, but still something was wrong.

"You grew wings without me," my body said. "Your flights are only imagination." So I looked into books that I had ignored
before and read about saints in every age who actually flew. In India, Persia, China, and Spain (even in Los Angeles!), the
power of spirit has reached, not just into the heart, but into every cell of the body. "As if carried aloft by a great eagle," Saint
Teresa said, "my ecstasy lifted me into the air."

I began to believe in this amazing feat, and for the first time, I didn't feel left behind. I was the falcon and the child and the saint.
In my eyes their lives became sacred, and the truth came home: When all life is seen as divine, everyone grows wings.

Hope u liked it!!!
******
starry eyed shagun.

Good Goddess! Look at that chart of Kurt's--he never had a chance.

Cheers Kathleen.....