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#75257 - 08/26/99 12:11 PM
Witchcraft & Paganism II
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From a pretty lady whom I know, who is a great attorney, author, orator, and does more than her share for the Pagan community. We love it when she graces our presence at gatherings, and hope she comes to more! This happens to be a timely piece... Witches Take Offense Chat with Attorney and Practicing Witch Phyllis Curott
Does the blockbuster horror flick The Blair Witch Project put real-life Witches at risk? Many people think Witches only exist in fairy tales. But the truth is that Witches, also known as Wiccans, are practitioners of a Pagan religion that predates Christianity. Join us tonight for a live chat with Phyllis Curott, an Ivy League-educated attorney and practicing Witch. She's the founder of one of the largest Wiccan congregations in the U.S. and author of The Book of Shadows: A Modern Woman's Journey into the Wisdom of Witchcraft and the Magic of the Goddess. Curott's latest mission is to correct the misrepresentation of Witches in the film The Blair Witch Project. "We have already seen an increase in misunderstanding and antagonism toward Witchcraft as a result of this movie," says Curott, who is presently negotiating with the film's distributors. Moderator at 3:32pm ET Does the blockbuster flick The Blair Witch Project put real-life Witches at risk? Join us for a chat with attorney and practicing Witch Phyllis Curott tonight at 9 p.m. ET. You can send in questions for her now. (Keep in mind that you won't see your messages until the moderator posts them). Moderator at 8:49pm ET Phyllis Curott joins us shortly. Please keep your questions short -- 150 words or less. Thanks. We'll start soon. Moderator at 9:01pm ET Phyllis Curott now joins us. Welcome to the chat! Why did you decide to become a Witch and how would you sum up the belief of Wicca? Phyllis Curott at 9:04pm ET I think that there's a Witch in absolutely everybody. People find their way to the old religion of the Goddess by many paths. I described the magical circumstances that led to my meeting a coven of Witches in New York City in my book Book of Shadows. It was the last place in the world I would have ever imagined I'd find myself. It turned out to be the most fascinating place, that opened the real world of magic to me. Phyllis Curott at 9:06pm ET Contemporary Wicca (Witchcraft) is not a belief system. It's a system of practices -- some ancient, others modern. Their purpose is to enable you to take off the blindfold and see the sacred in yourself, in others and the world around you; to make a connection to that divine energy and to transform your life with it. It's very similar in many ways to Native American spirituality. It is an Earth religion and through the practices we come to experience the divine as everywhere present in the world. Joanna, at 9:07pm ET Do people in your town/city know that you are a Witch? Does it affect your clients? Phyllis Curott at 9:09pm ET I have been a very public witch for the last 10 years of the 20 years that I've been practicing. Lots of people now know that I'm a witch. I'll give you an example: I was out at my country house and had a wonderful conversation with the head librarian of a rural library who wanted to tell me all about a very magical dream that she had, in which I played a prominent role. The entire staff gathered round as we discussed her dream. Certainly ther are many, many people who don't understand what this is about and are mistakenly frightened. In fact, on my book tour I did receive quite a number of threats. But my experience has been that when people discover what this is really all about, they're completely fascinated. Phyllis Curott at 9:12pm ET As far as being a Witch and a lawyer is concerned, I like to joke that the lawyer is the dark side. But in all seriousness, I began my career as a civil liberties lawyer, fighting for social justice -- fighting organized crime in trade unions. Now, 20 years later, I'm using my skills as an attorney to fight for the rights of Witches. I also have a traditional law practice and it is certainly true that I did lose some of my older, more conservative, male clients. But I gained many more clients, many of them women. But my great love is writing, lecturing and teaching. Matriarch, at 9:12pm ET Hello Phyllis, I wanted to know how you can find Witches in your local area. I am very interested in practicing Wicca, but don't know how to get started. Phyllis Curott at 9:15pm ET Great question. There are lots of public groups now. One way is on bulletin board of local book stores. The other way is through the Internet. One of the best sites to learn about Witchcraft is "witchvox.com". There's also my Web site, "bookofshadows.net" and I have a wonderful resource list at the back of Book of Shadows which lists organizations, newsletters and Web sites through which local groups can be contacted. Lots of universities also have groups. Webster, at 9:16pm ET Hi Phyllis . .I'm a man who has read your book and who thoroughly enjoyed it. You are obviously acting from your heart in this Blair business. Is it satisfying to be making a difference? Phyllis Curott at 9:18pm ET I hope I'm making a difference. Only time will tell. And yes, it's a great challenge and can be very frustrating at times. But it's also the most rewarding thing that I could imagine doing. This is a very personal and satisfying spiritual practice that holds answers that we desperately need right now to the problems we face. It's an incredible set of tools that I want the world to have. Thanks for the question. Christian Soldier, at 9:19pm ET How do you respond to the condemnation of Witchcraft in the Bible? Since it is the absolute truth, you cannot possibly challenge it. Phyllis Curott at 9:22pm ET Oh Christian Soldier! You militarist, you! There are many paths to the divine. The Bible is but one. If it teaches you compassion, tolerance and love of your neighbor, then you are practicing your religion and I praise you. If you are using your Bible as a platform for intolerance, anger you are not practicing your religion and I grieve for you. As far as the reference with regard to the Biblical condemnation of witchcraft, it is a mistranslation on the part of King James which was done for very political purposes. The original Hebrew word was in fact poisoner. Katia, at 9:22pm ET How popular is Wicca? About how many Witches do you think are out there? Phyllis Curott at 9:25pm ET According to a number of academic studies, Witchcraft and Goddess spirituality -- which is a broader category in which Witchcraft falls -- are the fastest-growing spiritual practices in the U.S. today. Based on those studies, number of practitioners is between 3 and 5 million. This does not include Taoists, Hindus, Native Americans and others with whom we have much in common. MoonSilver, at 9:26pm ET Hi, I've been Wiccan for over 10 years, and recently moved to Alabama. Never before I got here have I been hassled by people of other religions. How do you deal with the hostility? Phyllis Curott at 9:30pm ET The first thing you have to do is make friends and allies. You should check out the Unitarian Church and probably become a member. You need to look for similar places of community. The Internet is a wonderful tool to help you find folks (other Wiccans) in your area. You have to behave in a way that's sensible, given where you are. That may require you to be more discreet about your worship until the climate changes. But it is changing every day -- tremendously. I did an interview in Biloxi today -- they were terrific; Baton Rouge last week, also terrific. Stay in touch. You need to know you have a network of support no matter what happens. Hopefully people will judge you by who you are, not just by your religion. As friends and neighbors come to know you, they'll come to accept your religion. That's an important way in which we make huge changes at a personal level. James, at 9:31pm ET Miss Curott, was it hard for you to "come out" as a Witch, at first? Phyllis Curott at 9:33pm ET I made myself sick I was so nervous about it. I decided to go public and -- Poof! -- there was a reporter who wanted to write a story right away. But coming out of the broom closet has meant freedom, empowerment. A Witch cannot live in fear. When you face your fears, you'll find the other side is freedom. ShadowMoon, at 9:34pm ET Why all this fuss over the Blair Witch, instead of focusing on more dire issues of discrimination? I don't see why this film is so offensive when we have so many other problems. Phyllis Curott at 9:37pm ET I am very attentive to dire problems. I spend a big part of my day dealing with all kinds of dire problems! Why am I trying to get a disclaimer attached to the Blair Witch Project? Very simple. The movie exploits and reinforce the negative stereotype of the Witch as an evil murderer. We all grew up with that stereotype -- Hansel and Gretel and Shakespeare, and now, The Blair Witch Project. Stereotypes that make people afraid have the potential of leading to violence and oppression -- and so they have to be fought. The only way that we're going to change the stereotypes about Witches is by standing up and saying, "No more." It's not hard to understand. If you simply put any other religion in place of the word Witch and you branded that religion with the same stereotype of being murderous and evil, you'd see right away how offensive that would be, and there would be an outcry -- not just from the practitioners, but from everyone. Aurora, at 9:38pm ET Why do you think Hollywood and television shows have gone haywire for Witches? And don't some of the inaccuracies they portray perpetuate stereotypes? Phyllis Curott at 9:43pm ET I think Hollywood is very sensitive to where the audience is. They're creating product that reflects what's happening at the grass roots -- they're responding to the market. They know there's an audience. And, in fact, ratings are huge. Teenage girls and young women who are a big part of this market share have found the Goddess! And that is very empowering and liberating. With regard to the old stereotypes that we're still seeing -- i.e. that only women are Witches, that they have supernatural powers -- that's just what they are: stereotypes. And that's frustrating. But on the positive side, which is important, these shows (Charmed, Sabrina, Willow on Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Practical Magic) are showing witches as good, as strong and independent young women who use their power to help people, who show them working together. All of those are steps in the right direction. Alan, at 9:44pm ET Can you put a hex on my boss? Phyllis Curott at 9:46pm ET No. We don't hex. But if you get Book of Shadows you'll find how I dealt with my evil boss. There's a very effective protection, banishing and binding which you may do. Joanna, at 9:46pm ET Do you (you personally, not all Wiccans) believe in ghosts/spirits? Phyllis Curott at 9:47pm ET Interesting question. I'll be dealing with those spirits in my second book. I've had some extraordinary experiences. Brigid H., at 9:47pm ET I'm curious to know how many men practice Goddess Spirituality? Phyllis Curott at 9:48pm ET It varies, depending on where you are and which tradition you're in. But overall, men make up about 25-40% of all Witches. And those numbers are growing every day. Mike from [206.245.181.219], at 9:48pm ET What do you do that makes you a Witch? What I mean is, do you mix magic potions and cast spells on people? All I know about Witches is from that show in the 60's called "Bewitched". Phyllis Curott at 9:52pm ET There's a lot more to magic and being a Witch than casting spells and making potions. The real magic that Witches are concerned with flows from our connection to the divine. The word witch in Old English means "wise one" or shaman. Our spiritual practices are very similar to those of many Native Americans. The easiest way to describe it would be different kinds of active meditations done in the presence of nature through which we become connected or experience communion with the divine. Having done that, your life becomes incredibly magical. So our work is really not about commanding, controlling and manipulating -- the stereotypical image -- but about consciousness, communion, and transformation. Sig, at 9:54pm ET What do you think Wiccans can do to combat misinformation about the Wicca Craft? Phyllis Curott at 9:59pm ET Everything they possibly can! People need to be who they are. The first step is to come out with those with whom you're most intimate. Through personal contact with you, stereotypical ideas that others may have will be transformed. There's a tremendous amount that can be accomplished at a very personal level. The second way is to be active and vocal when stereotypes are presented in the media. Write down to protesting a soap opera's repeated use of the word "witch" when really they mean "bitch." Write letter, speak out, join Wiccan organizations. If you have an interest in doing interfaith work, working with members of other faith traditions in your community will go a long way toward transforming negative stereotypes. Bottom line: Be who you are. Understand how important what you know is to the rest of the world. Be willing to share it. And never, ever be afraid to stick up for your rights. Things will change. We have a great wisdom that the world desperately needs right now. Moderator at 10:04pm ET What does a real Witch do on Halloween? And how do you really dress when you are in full Witch regalia? Phyllis Curott at 10:06pm ET I'm cackling ... I love it. Full Witch regalia for me tends to be a really good-fitting pair of blue jeans, a Gap t-shirt and some stylish Joan & David boots. It's not what you look like on the outside, it's what's going on in the inside. Keep it simple, keep it clean. My real preference for ceremonial garb is a nice Georgio Armani when I can get it! I prefer gowns, for rituals -- I've made many of them myself because you can imbue the gown with your own energy by making it yourself. But it's not about wardrobe. It's about what's going on in your heart and soul. Phyllis Curott at 10:10pm ET We generally refer to Halloween as Samhain (the Celtic New Year -- the very magical moment when the door between the worlds opened). It is a very sacred holiday for us, when we honor our ancestors and visit with their spirits. It is the beginning of the dream time, when nothing grows and the earth is still and we enter the sacred space between the worlds to seek visions that will guide us in the coming year. The stereotypical Witch outfits are all deteriorated remnants of this older, more profound experience of mystery at this time of year. Moderator at 10:10pm ET Thank you for joining us today. Any closing comments? Phyllis Curott at 10:11pm ET If you have any further questions, please contact me at the web site(www.bookofshadows.net). You may find some of the answers to your questions in Book of Shadows as well. ----------------------------------------- Thanks Phyllis! Bright Blessings, Carlo
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#75258 - 08/26/99 05:27 PM
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Thank you Carlo, that was wonderful and informative! 
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#75259 - 08/27/99 02:09 AM
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Carlo, That was great!! Phyllis sounds so wonderful and a true leader in the spiritual community. I do like how she fielded the one negative comment, that was so tactful, and true!!! Blessings. Galadriel
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#75260 - 08/27/99 09:29 AM
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#75261 - 08/28/99 01:11 AM
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Dear Carlo, This is so great!  I loved reading what Phyllis had to say, she's so cool!  Thanks Lots of Love Seamistress
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#75262 - 09/02/99 09:51 AM
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I just wanted to post this as I got the news this morning from one of my digests. Doreen Valiente passed away, may she enjoy being in the Arms of the Goddess! I just find it unbelievable since she is one of the founders of the modern practice....she was one amazing lady. Blessings and love, Galadriel
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#75263 - 09/02/99 08:00 PM
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Okay, hi and welcome Laureli! I glanced briefly at your page and I'll go back after I get done here, I did bookmark it. So far it looks really cool. We are neighbors sort of, I'm in SoHo...MM! Could you please explain for me what exactly faery wicca is?? I have heard of it but would like to know from someone who is one. I'm an eclectic solitary myself. I will email you with some other web page questions I have but I thought this was a good topic for discussion here. Blessings! Gal 
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#75264 - 09/02/99 08:02 PM
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[Re: Galadriel]
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PS! For anyone interested, I did put up my Magical Potpourri and Spiritual Resouces pages finally, you can reach them through the Spirituality Introduction page, and I put a link to Linda Land there, with a quote I found that I love, but I never did find the one I was looking for, LoL! Gal
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#75265 - 09/02/99 08:20 PM
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Galadrial(Elven Queen): I like Tolkein too. Faery Wicca is Irish Folk Magic taken from the Tuatha Du Danaan. Since I am of Irish ancestry it seemed a natural choice. The Tuatha Du Danaan were supposedly the first inhabitants of Ireland. A few years ago I started reading the works of Kisma Stepanich. After studing eclectic Wicca for ten years it was the perfect road for me to take. I recently purchased a book called the Celtic Oracle which describes different symbolism (totems)one follows during different stages of ones life. What tradition if any do you study? Love Laureli
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#75266 - 09/03/99 11:23 AM
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GREETINGS Hi Gali - Did you say that Doreen Valiente has crossed over ??? So sad, at least on one level, the mortal/mundane one Much Love essence
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#75267 - 09/05/99 12:17 PM
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Yes Lady Essence *hugs* very sad. Like I said I was reading my Woman Spirit Digest and they had the info on it. Good to see you, I missed this place the last couple of days! I just want to put this on here for anyone interested, I am looking for submissions for my Magical Potpourri page. It could be anything, recipies, herbal lore, candle magick, your favourite celebrations or meditations, spells, anything! So send me an email if you've got something you'd like me to put up. Oh and poetry, too. Fairy magick and friends. You get the idea.  Laureli, I am a bit of an eclectic. I gather information from several sources and put it all together for my own practices, which is why I guess I'm still a solitary. I have found Sisterhood of Avalon, which very nearly incorporates all the ideas, values and practices I hold true for myself, but I am always learning and looking for more info. Does anyone want to share more about their particular traditions and beliefs ? I do think this would be an interesting topic for this thread. Blessings, Gal
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#75268 - 09/05/99 11:21 PM
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#75269 - 09/08/99 05:44 AM
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Greetings, Can someone tell me please, how is it that spells work?????? I don't understand the mechanics of it. Many thanks, Annie 
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#75270 - 09/08/99 07:44 PM
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WHITE WITCHES IN IRELAND Knowflakes, I thought you might find this interesting. it's an article from "The Irish Times" about an irish white witch whose "images or visions come to her only when she is in a totally relaxed state - for instance, when she is dreaming." full text follows . . . "Witch of Cobh says she foresaw the death of Diana" Why did the Princess of Wales go to her grave when happiness seemed finally to have found her? A woman in Cobh, Co Cork, is convinced she knows the answer to what those speculating on the matter are inclined to think may be a murky business. The woman in question is Ms Helen Barrett and she is a "white witch". She lives under the dominating steeple of Cobh Cathedral. She is a fifth-generation witch, one of 3,500 white witches in Ireland. Only one witch, who lives in Co Kerry, outranks her. Her name remains a secret(that is her wish) but she is in her 80s and is known to those in the confraternity of witches as "An Óige". The females of the group are witches and the males are wizards. They are the opposite to those who dwell on the side of darkness, practising other things. What do white witches do? They can, Ms Barrett claims, summon up the forces of light to change a person's destiny. They can tell fortunes, do astral projections - better known as out-of-body experiences - and they have mastery over the elements, such as the ability to whistle up the wind. They like to think of themselves as being in the same mould as Mary Poppins. Ms Barrett says she was born to lead and to become the all-Ireland leader of the white witches when "An Óige" passes on. She says her leadership qualities were manifested at birth, when she was found to have a particular feature on her palm. It was a set of parallel lines with crossing strokes -a ladder. So it was written then, she says, that in her life she would take the steps that would lead to her assuming An Óige's role. She is already the leader of the Council of Elders. The number of white witches does not vary. When one of their number dies, only then is another allowed to join. Extensive study and training are required before a witch can claim to have "qualified". But back to Diana. Some five years ago, Ms Barrett said, a friend remarked to her that the princess was very beautiful. But she was compelled to reply that Diana would die tragically in a car crash. Then, a month before her death, Ms Barrett had an out-of-body experience in which she saw the princess, the crash, the news reports, the military procession, two separate coffins, Diana and Dodi going into the Ritz Hotel in Paris. A news broadcast on Sky television said Diana had been cut from the wreckage. She identified pillar 13 - the one into which the Mercedes car crashed. Further, she had a clear image of Diana's funeral ceremony, the arrival of her body at the Abbey, and one of her being laid to rest on the island at Althorp. And this is Ms Barrett's challenge: these images or visions come to her only when she is in a totally relaxed state - for instance, when she is dreaming. She is now willing to undergo supervised hypnosis and to take a lie-detector test. This test, she believes, will establish she did "see" what she claims to have seen - the session under hypnosis will establish beyond any doubt what happened that evening on a motorway in the French capital. "I am willing to swear this on my mother's soul," she said. She says that as a youngster, she foresaw the Stardust tragedy. On the very day of Diana's death, she felt an ominous pressure - a foreboding. What else? Early into the new millennium, a tidal wave will hit Youghal, Limerick and Waterford. The Irish Stock Exchange will crash next March. The huge dam holding back the might of the River Lee in Cork will collapse. But don't the dogs in the street know that in many parts of the world the markets are shaky and stock exchanges, to put it mildly, are jittery? "Yes, but I'm saying when it will happen here. Who else is doing that?" You believe or you do not believe, but Ms Barrett has people flocking to her for advice on their problems and asking her to predict what may be ahead in their lives. And so to the cynic's question. With such powers, would it not be possible to clean up on the horses? In a state of hypnosis, Ms Barrett repeated, she would have no bother in rattling off the Lotto numbers. When she was aged seven, a relative would bring her regularly to betting shops where she would scan the field and just as regularly nominate the winners. That was until her mother put a stop to it. She felt it was no place for a youngster and certainly not the way for one with her powers to go. But what would stop her from dreaming up the Lotto numbers? Because it is something she does not choose to do, she says. The next leader of Ireland's white witches doesn't socialise much. Doing so is too distressing. In a crowded place, she can feel the potential suffering of the people around her - those with imminent ifficulties and looming health problems. Ms Barrett is the co-designer of a ring, now being patented, that will bring joy, she predicts, to people in severed relationships who have pledged themselves to their new partners. It will be called a "Ring of Honour". Is that an advertisement? "No, for now, I can say no more." She says her powers were handed down and she didn't ask for them. "I can do no more than offer to undergo hypnosis and take the lie-detector test." Madeleine
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#75271 - 09/08/99 07:53 PM
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Madeleine..FASCINATING..Thankyou so much..My memories of Ireland have come to the fore once more. Blessings, Crystal.
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#75272 - 09/08/99 08:39 PM
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Dear Dr. Madeleine, How utterly fascinating!!! Thank you for your lengthy information on White Witches of Ireland!! Summoning up white light to change someones destiny......pretty heady stuff!!! How interesting that there are always a set number of witches, that one must die for another to qualify. So curious. Many thanks for sharing so generously, Annie 
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#75274 - 09/09/99 06:48 AM
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Yes, it is true that Doreen Valiente has crossed over into Summerland. She was quite a Witch and an author. Her requiem is being written by the Farrars, and here is a url: http://www.witchcraft.org/doreen.htm Blessed Be, Carlo
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#75275 - 09/09/99 09:49 PM
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Oh, Carlo, thanks, and written by the Farrars too? I shall fly over henceforth *on my broom* Thanks so much. Madeleine, that was absolutely fascinating, thanks for sharing. A fifth generation white witch? Wow! Bet she is absolutely wonderful to talk to...but, oh, she doesn't get out much. That was pretty chilling that she foresaw Diana's death, what a sad vision. I myself have had a few scary ones, but none have come to pass thus far...mostly involving myself, in dreamwork, and from what I understand, I changed the circumstances of fate by changing something in my life. Well, I do ramble on! Blessings, Gal
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#75276 - 09/09/99 10:49 PM
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#75277 - 09/10/99 10:21 AM
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#75278 - 09/21/99 01:32 AM
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Merry Meet: Brightest blessings for this coming Mabon Celebration! My son's birthday is tomorrow and he's just as exited. As usual we will be observing this at home. If anyone has any traditions they would like to share, I would be very greatful. Love, Light and Happiness to All Laureli
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#75279 - 09/21/99 02:08 AM
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#75280 - 09/21/99 11:06 AM
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Mountains to share, and I will share them with you, dear Capricorn druid  Merry Meet, Laureli! Happy Mabon!! Mabon stuff...lessee... Lots of cornbread cakes and cider... Maybe invest in supplies to make your own mead... Harvest whatever herbs you may still have growing outdoors...it may be your last chance before the first frost... Collect leaves that are turning and paraffin them. Dip the leaves quickly into paraffin and then put them on wax paper. When the leaves are dry, you can put them in a big, decorative jar with a sigil for protection carved lightly on some or all of the leaves, or on the jar itself... Candles should be brown, orange, gold, or red... Altar cloth making is fun and easy too, and can be made with fall designs...good chance to teach sewing too... Take a walk by a nearby stream or river and collect stones that have gathered over the Summer to empower for various purposes... Watch the birds and local animals as they get ready for the Winter... Wherever you go, do make sure to bring a bag to pick up trash...good to teach kids the appreciation of that yearly, and in the Spring - Imbolc or Oestara - take a trip to the local park with the intent on doing a little Spring cleaning of debris that has accumulated over the Winter months... That's what my coven does, always involving the kids, and helping them to learn the importance of keeping our Mother clean and happy and shiny and beautiful And through this, I can tell you that I have watched many children grow up to be sweet, thoughtful adolescent and adult Pagans  Blessed Be and Merry Meet Again  To the Gods! Carlo
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#75281 - 09/21/99 11:48 PM
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#75283 - 09/22/99 06:17 AM
Re: Witchcraft & Paganism II
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#75284 - 09/22/99 06:25 AM
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Hiya essence ... once again the twin soul connection, I see ... you are being a real nice Pagan ...  ... 
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#75285 - 09/25/99 10:56 PM
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Hello All  I thought I'd give the Wiccan Rede to you. I love it! THE WICCAN REDE Bide the Wiccan laws ye must, in perfect love and perfect trust. Live and let live - fairly take and fairly give. Cast the Circle thrice about to keep all evil spirits out. To bind the spell every time, let the spell be spake in rhyme. Soft of eye and light of touch - speak ye little, listen much. Deosil go by the waxing Moon - sing and dance the Wiccan Rune. Widdershins go when the Moon doth wane, and the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane. When the Lady's Moon is new, kiss the hand to Her times two. When the Moon rides at Her peak, then your heart's desire seek. Heed the North wind's mighty gale - lock the door and drop the sail. When the wind comes from the South, love will kiss thee on the mouth. When the wind blows from the East, expect the new and set the feast. When the West wind blows o'er thee, departed spirits restless be. Nine woods in the Cauldron go - burn them quick and burn them slow. Elder be ye Lady's tree - burn it not or cursed ye'll be. When the Wheel begins to turn, let the Beltane fires burn. When the Wheel has turned a Yule, lighty the Log and let Pan rule. Heed ye flower, bush and tree - by the Lady blessed be. Where the rippling waters go, cast a stone and truth ye'll know. When ye are in dire need, hearken not to others' greed. With the fool no season spend, or be counted as his friend. Merry meet and merry part - bright the cheeks and warm the heart. When misfortune is enow, wear the blue star on thy brow. True in love ever be, unless thy lover's false to thee. Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill - an ye harm none, do what ye will. Lots of Love Seamistress
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#75286 - 09/25/99 11:00 PM
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Seamistress, Hey GIRLFRIEND!! *hugs* Thanks for posting this, definately needed here. How was your Mabon??? Yup, just perfect for the Wiccan Thread! Love and daisies, ~Gal
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#75287 - 09/25/99 11:35 PM
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#75288 - 09/26/99 07:19 AM
Re: Witchcraft & Paganism II
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Hi Sea-mistress!!! Glad to see you back around these parts  Bright Blessings GoddessGrrls! Carlo
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#75289 - 09/26/99 07:34 AM
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Seamistress !!! Did so very much miss you, girl ...  and what lovely chanting ... just saying it ... I could feel the vibrations ... Thank you, lovely one ...  love - druid
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#75290 - 09/26/99 10:52 PM
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#75291 - 09/27/99 09:37 AM
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Welcome back, Seamistress!!!  Hope your time away was grand! 
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#75292 - 09/27/99 03:27 PM
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Hi Annie, Regarding your question about the mechanics of a spell. How it works? I too am interested in the thoughts of others that are knowledgable in the subject. I am going to take a guess. I think that a spell would be amost imposible without "feeling and creative visualization". Meaning that you must feel deep down in your heart that it is right. You must feel strongly that is right and know it will happen. Also to imaging it has happened already by picturing it in your mind's eye while you are doing the spell. I also think a spell is more powerful if it is done by your s-elf. Because you really care about making it happen and someone else doesn't have such a personal involvement. For example: If my friend wanted her boyfriend to marry her and she got me to do the spell it wouldn't be as effective. It might even be uneffective if in my heart I didn't think they should marry. I also believe that a spell that harms someone is x3 bad karma to the person doing it and vice versa x3 good karma if it helps. Just my opinion, Would like to hear others! Love and Light 
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#75293 - 09/27/99 09:25 PM
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Dear Annie, Thanks it was! We went down to the beach and it was beautiful!!!  Lots of Love Seamistress
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#75295 - 09/29/99 05:38 AM
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Nice Dolphin! You hit it right on the head! The key to a successful spell is intent. All the "props" in the world - incense, candles, a nice robe, beautiful altar - matter not unless you have the requisite intent. And you should always add, either verbally or just image it: "for the good of all, and it harm none." For a spell may not be good for someone else, and you have to be clear about that first. All the summoning of rc, for example, will not work unless and until it is right for him to come back.  Other than that, if your intent is clear, pure, and harms none, including yours-elf, then your spell will be successful. Oh yes! Also be clear and specific in what you ask for! The gods have a sense of humor!  Bright Blessings, Carlo
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#75296 - 09/29/99 04:33 PM
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Thank you for your reply Carlo! Dolphin 
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#75297 - 09/29/99 05:21 PM
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#75299 - 10/01/99 03:26 PM
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Hi Holly, nice to see you back again! Always good to hear from the girl who started all this on these threads! *hugs* Okay, *bounces excitedly* Samhain is coming up fast! Wahoo!!! My favorite holiday, I swear. I am getting ready to put up my page and want to know if anyone has poetry/recipies/meditations/celebrations to help me out or share on the page. Please, please contribute, you guys have so much info! You can tell how psyched I am on this, huh? LoL! Well let me know, either email me or post it here. Happy Fall!!!! Blessings, ~Gal
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#75301 - 10/01/99 10:31 PM
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Thank you dear Annie! I have got the initial page up but plan to have two more, one on recipies and the other on lore, poems, etc. Fun, fun stuff. I am such a sop! Blessings, Gal 
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#75302 - 10/01/99 10:44 PM
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Merry Meet Galadriel! Can't wait for your Samhain page. I'm getting psyched. Just finished mine if you'd like to take a gander. I'll be keeping my eyes open for yours. Love, Light and Happiness Laureli
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#75303 - 10/02/99 02:10 PM
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#75304 - 10/04/99 12:30 AM
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Laureli, I got a chance today to visit your page, it looks great! You have done a little revamping, I love the images you have on the front page! Wow, I love that Stephen King site! Very nicely done. I have got a good head start on mine, for anyone interested. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/6730/Samhain.html Of course, if the link doesn't come up on the screen, you can always copy and past into your location box. I will have more done in the next few days. Suggestions are still, as always, welcome, if you have your own poetry or stuff you would like to see put up, let me know! Enjoy. MP, Gal
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#75305 - 10/04/99 05:42 AM
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Dearest Galadriel! Got a chance to see your Samhaim page. I love the little ghosties and the Anne Rice page. I have a link about Haunted New Orleans. I've bookmarked it to share. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Great Job! Love and Light Laureli
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