Hi,
I am a pisces and for the last two years I've been going through hell and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Then , I read this thing about saturn being in some house of mine causing the slowdown.I was amazed at the accuracy with which my condition has been described in this site.Could somebody tell me some more about this saturn's stay thing and when I can expect to get some relief.I know this is the wrong forum for this topic but please help me . Thanx!!

a tired fish,
Piscez

Please tell us your time/date/place of birth, pisces. Sorry you're going through this.

Oh, and welcome
Love Tanya

Hi Tanya,
My dob is 24th Feb. 1976 and place is India. Time is 12.55 am. Thanx for the concern.

a tired fish,
Piscez

hi pisces,

the exact place of birth is needed, i.e., city, town, village.

wuv,

amy

Hi Amy,
I dunno the exact place of my birth.Its somewhere in easterm India.Hope that'll provide a good approximation.

a tired fish,
Piscez

Hi again Piscez

Could you possibly give us a city name? It's difficult to know what to look for if we don't know your ascendant.

Love Tanya

hi Piscez and welcome to the site.
in order to know what house Saturn is in,or any other planet,the exact birth place is needed. Then an astrologer can find the exact degree of the rising sign,which is what sets the starting point for the houses. Your question cant really be answered without it,sorry

Hi Pisces!

Do you atleast know the name of the nearest city? Calcutta, Patna, Bhubaneshwar, Jamshedpur,...?

Hi Concerned people,
Okay,I really don't know the place,only that its somewhere in eastern India. The nearest city would be Guwahati in Assam,I guess. Why is the place required?? Can't an approximation be made?? There are so many places which are not known unlike the big cities or which do not occur in maps,how are these accounted for then?? Please tell me more about ascendant. Whats that?? Sun-sign??

a tired fish,
Piscez

Hi Piscez!

In case, the place of birth does not appear on the atlas, the nearest town or city (which does appear on the atlas) is used. The nearer it is, the better.

As for your question about the Ascendant or Rising sign, no, it is not the same as the sun-sign. The sun-sign is the sign in which the sun was placed at the time of birth. Whereas the ascendant is the sign that was rising on the Eastern horizon at the time of your birth. The asc. determines your appearance, your outer behaviour and the way others perceive you. You can explore this site more by using the search option at the top right hand side of this page. Just type in "Ascendant" and see what you find. Better still, try the Glossary for such basic Astro terms.

Hello People,
I have provided the nearest place of my birth(please look at my post before this one).Now what?? Please just tell me where saturn is right now and when is he going to leave me alone??
Thanx Eagle for the ascendant introduction. Mine will be scorpio I guess.

a tired fish,
Piscez

[This message has been edited by Piscez (edited 05-13-2001).]

Hi Piscez!
I have a Scorp asc. too! Oh, yes and I'm an Indian too, if you haven't already realised that.
Infact, I have started a thread on Scorpio ascendant. May be you should take a look and see if you relate. It's in the Star Chat forum and is called "Scorp Rising Inc.!"

Hi Eagle,
Thanx for introducing me to that topic about scorpio rising. Its nice to know that there are others with similar feelings!! Most of the things discussed about scorp. rising people seems hopelessly true with me too(except that I am a guy).Like the thing you said about having very high expectations from friends and not having real friends but only 'many' acquaintances - its true with me a 100%. And somebody said something about getting hurt easily in friendship-thats true too.Oh God, I used to think I must be weird sort of guy and many times I even tried to change myself consciously but to no avail. I didn't know about ascendants earlier , atleast not fully. So,I was kinda amazed at such behaviour from myself(I am a pisces). Now I know. Can you tell me more about it??
I am going thru the thread , its quite long.Will take some time.
Thanx , once again.BTW,all that talk about mercury in this and pluto in that - whats that about. How does one get to know where the planets are?? I'd like to know where are mine.

a tired fish,
Piscez

Piscez, you said you are a Scorpio rising, and Scorpios can hypnotise themselves in and out of anything they wish too. Hence, I'd suggest that you stop calling yourself "A tired fish" (sorry, do i sound rude? I really dont mean to) and start thinking of yourself that combined the Fish and the Eagle (Scorpio) traits to soar high in the sky. I am sure that you can, and will, transcend all and any obstacles that you meet. Cheerio

Ani

P.S. Incidentally, I faced a Saturn effect recently too (I have a Pisces moon) so I know exactly how terrible it feels. i am still smiling, aren't I?

Hi Ani,
When I wrote "a tired fish" in my first post , I was really tired.Then , I just , sort of , continued with it. And you are right about scorps being able to hypnotize themselves out of anything - I have done that myself many times.But at that point of time,I was just crushed , literally. I'll stop using it.

simply pisces,
Piscez

Hello People,
BTW,I don't really know whether I have scorpio ascendant. I just read in some astrology mag.It had some charts and my ascendant came out as scorpio. Guess the way to know is to get a chart done by some astrologer.

simply pisces,
Piscez

Hi Piscez,

Just to simplify matters for you, ascendant is called "Lagna" in india. If you happen to have a Panjika of the year of your birth, just look up the lagna under your date.

And, it is 12:55 in the afternoon or night. I am just confirming, coz I wanted to draw up a chart for you.

Love, Ani

Hi Ani,
I don't have a birth-chart. And it is 12.55 in the night not afternoon. Dead of the night or early morning,whichever you like. Thats the reason why I like nights better than days,mebbe.
I'd be really grateful if you could draw up the chart for me.

simply pisces,
Piscez

Hi Pisces!

I'm glad you liked the thread. You are welcome to share your experiences there.
And I do relate to the feeling of being the only weirdo to behave in that manner. And talking to my Scorp Rising friends here, really cleared all that up for me.

As, for your birth-chart, it looks like Ani will draw one up for you by the Indian style. Around here, everybody follows the Western method. And both the charts differ. Like I'm a Scorpio with a Scorpio Asc. and Pisces moon as per Western Astro. But vedic gives me a Libra sun and Asc. and an Aquarius moon. You can draw up a western-style chart for yourself right here on this site. Just click on the free natal chart option on the home-page and enter your birth-details. Use Guwahati for the place of birth, if you still don't know the actual place of birth. This chart will give you your planet positions.

Oh, and I'm glad you've stopped adding "a Tired fish" in your posts. It always sort of depressed me to see you end your posts that way. Must be my Pisces moon. Yesterday, I nearly asked you to stop doing it, but then thought it might sound rude. Thanks Ani, for saying it so well.

Well, hope to see you around!
Bye!

Hi Eagle,
Sorry for the "tired fish" thing. Sounded depressing to me too.Have done away with it,thanks to Ani.
The free natal chart link on the home page just returns a blank page.I have tried it before.Now that you have reminded me,I'll give it one more try. And thanx a lot for everything.

simply pisces,
Piscez

Picez,

I tried cities from Madras to Calcutta and your rising continously shows Sag rising. That would put your natal Saturn in the 8th house and your transiting Saturn in your 6th house of work. Regardless, Saturn hasn't been too bad to you in the last year but you might have that beat up feeling right now since it's conjuncting your Sun.

Love and light,
Auriel

Hi Auriel,
Thank you for taking the trouble.Actually,the places you've looked for are way off the mark. The nearest known city/town is Guwahati,in Assam.Even that too is somwwhat far by about a few hundred KMs.
Well,I'm counting on Ani to draw my chart.

simply Pisces,
Piscez

Piscez,

I finally found Guwahati in Assam in th world atlas and it still shows you have a Sag rising of 14*41" in Western astrology. The coordinates are 26.02N and 91.07E in case you want to get your chart done again. It makes what I told you last night accurate. This is actually a really great time for you with your love life and learning anything spiritual, especially with Neptune conjuncting your Mercury. You should be very intuitive and insightful right now. Good luck to you.

Love and light,
Auriel

Dear Piscez,

The placement of your planets is:
Ascendant (Lagna) : Scorpio 21°43' (computer), Scorpio 20°05'55'' (my manual calcn)
Sun: Aquarius 10°47'06"
Moon (Raashi) : Scorpio 29°03'15" (computer), Scorpio 24°23' (my manual calcn)
Mercury: Capricorn 15°30'
Venus: Capricorn 11°32'
Mars: Taurus 27°18'
Jupiter: Pisces 29°40' (computer), Aries 0°04' (my manual calcn)
Saturn: Cancer 3°28' R
Nth Node: Libra 21°58'
Sth Node: Aries 21°58'
Uranus: Libra 13°32' R
Neptune: Scorpio 20°19'
Pluto: Virgo 17°45' R

Nakshatra : Jyestha (ruler : Mercury)

Balance dasha at birth 7years, 3 months, 14 days (based on Moon at Scorpio 24°23')

Mahadasha summary (based on moon at Scorpio 24°23'):
Mercury ends : 08-June-1983
Ketu (SN) : 08-June-1990
Venus ends : 08-June-2010
Sun ends : 08-June-2016
Moon ends : 08-June-2026
Mars ends : 08-June-2033
Rahu (NN) ends : 08-June-2051...............and so on

Current Dasha : Venus
Current Bhukti end dates are as under
Venus/Venus : 08-Oct-1993
Venus/Sun : 08-Oct-1994
Venus/Moon : 08-Jun-1996
Venus/Mars : 08-Aug-1997
Venus/Rahu : 08-Aug-2000
Venus/Jupiter : 08-Apr-2003
Venus/Saturn : 08-Jun-2006
Venus/Mercury : 08-Apr-2009
Venus/Ketu: 08-Jun-2010

I have obviously made some mistake in the dasha bhukti calculations because as per the above, you should have been married by Aug 1997. Sigh I need some expert guidance.

You have at least one sister?

Hi Morning storm. I did this chart as per Vedic, hence my Asc. came out as Scorpio and the other planet placements will also be different. But I am a complete novice in this area

Love,

Ani

Hi Ani,

I know nothing about Vedic astrology but no novice in Western astrology. According to Western astrology Piscez will have the chance to get married anytime within the next two years if she chooses to.

Love and light,
Auriel