#9593 - 02/05/00 10:58 AM
Dreams of UFO's
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All my life I have dreams of UFO's. Last night I had another dream of UFO's. I was standing outside of my Mom's house, she, a neighbor and I were out in the dark at night, and I noticed a couple of specks of light move in the sky. It was very obvious to me it was UFO's. Then, I noticed up high in the nighttime sky, a UFO, with lights circling it, and it was sitting there for awhile not moving. It was small and very far away. All these dreams are always very real to me. When I have the dream, I always know right away it's a UFO, and it reminds me of other dreams I've had throughout my life. I don't always remember the dream the next day; sometimes something needs to trigger it; but when I have the dream, it's like I'm thinking, "oh, god, more UFO's". Does anyone have any insight to this? Please don't tell me anything scarey. Thanks, Jovette
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#9594 - 02/05/00 12:26 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
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Hi, I don't have much advice to offer...but just to say that i too have UFO dreams. usually nothing frightening...but more often i have dreams that deal with my house being haunted and i always get possessed by spirits (after futile attempts to tell my parents to get help and cleanse the house of evil spirits) and have REALLY strong sensations of flying and not being in control of my body anymore. Also, do any of you guys have what i call "brain freezes" i think its a form of sleep paralysis. usually you awake from a bad dream and you ARE awake but you cant open your eyes or move and strange sensations (sounds/feelings/images) overwhelm you and **Scare** you?  i'm rambling here..but hey tangents are always fun! would be interested in other knOwflakes' weird dream experiences.... Love ,julie ------------------ Of course I'll wait,' said Alice: `and thank you very much for coming so far--and for the song--I liked it very much.' `I hope so,' the Knight said doubtfully: `but you didn't cry so much as I thought you would.'
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Of course I'll wait,' said Alice: `and thank you very much for coming so far--and for the song--I liked it very much.'
`I hope so,' the Knight said doubtfully: `but you didn't cry so much as I thought you would.'
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#9595 - 02/06/00 01:30 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: LunarLady3]
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Journeyman
Registered: 02/03/00
Posts: 61
Loc: Long Beach, Ca USA
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My brother has frequent dreams of UFOs and is really interested in them too. I'm not talking about fantasty reveries about aliens and such, but REAL dreams of being in another existence. We joke around that maybe he was an alien in a past life, which is actually probable(well, in my opinion). My brother also seems to be more 'distant' than everyone else sometimes--oh well. I think experienced that 'sleep paralysis' that LunarLady was talking about, except that I couldn't breathe but I was awake and couldn't move my body or open my eyes! It takes a lot of effort to actually move the blanket, pillow, etc. from my face but I always do in time. That's scary in it's own right, if not a little ridiculous.  Later all Cho, the Pisces )-(
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#9596 - 02/05/00 05:01 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Cho]
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Registered: 09/13/99
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Hi everyone-- Jovette, I also have those UFO dreams from time to time-- I bet you anything that aisde from whatever theyr epresent to you personally, they are symbolic of the coming Age of Aquarius-- of our old consciousness being cracked open by new concepts, new energy, new vibrations-- heck, what could be more symbolic of omething 'beyond us & new' than UFos. . . make sense? As far as sleep paralysis goes, I do believe that is what's known as being in a hypnagogic ( spelling?) state-- when you fall asleep, your body sends out these neuro-transmitter like chemical hormones stuff to keep your body from actually acting out the actions you are dreaming of-- these neurotransmitters paralyze the body-- sometimes, for some reason, you'll wake up when they are still in your system & that's where the paralysis comes in-- at least that's the scientific explanation-- Because when I used to have those sleep paralysis dreams, I used to get scared, then I started praying when it happened, then I started being able to use those states to will my astral body up & away-- so who knows? I think there's a lot more to it than science can tell us-- Love Jenny
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#9597 - 02/05/00 05:27 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Like, in my dreams, its well-known that UFO's exist, not like it is in the wake-up world where there are people that still don't believe in them. But what my dreams mean regarding UFO's are still a mystery to me. I've never had that brain-freeze or paralysis like you guys mentioned. I am always very consciously aware in my dreams. I am always floating in-between dimensions, once I fall asleep and have a dream. Sometimes, when I am falling asleep, I "see" the next dimension - I may see insects, animals, or entities existing before I have a dream. It's hard to explain. Once, I felt an entity next to me on my bed. Then, I saw the entity get up and walk out of my bedroom. I wasn't scared or anything. The only time I get scared is when I am fully awake in the dark and my mind starts to wander into "spooky" mode. But my dreams themselves are never scarey. (thank God). I'm still interested to hear more about people's UFO dreams.  Jovette 
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#9598 - 02/05/00 05:45 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
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New friend
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Hello Jovette, I don't know if this will help but here's a bit about what dreams mean. First its important to note when you have the dream..there are three stages of dreaming.. the first is called the future or the wishful thinking dream...the second is known as the prophetic or possiblities dream..the third is known as the now or the venting dreams. First cycle occurs with in the first few stages of sleep. These dreams are generally about things we want to achieve or what we believe will make us happy. The second cycle occurs during the major part of the night,rem sleep cycle, These are the dreams that are subconcious or soul <however you choose to label it> tries to clue you in on the things that you need to work out to grow, to achieve your full potential. This is also the cycle that warns us of future problems or enlightens us to future possiblities. The final cycle occurs approx. 2-4 hours before you awaken. These are the dreams that people remeber most and are usually dreams that we use to vent or release current or past stress or anxiety. Most objects/people in dreams are merely representations of something else. Our subconcious uses symbols to represent different aspects of our lives. An example is someone who has always associated Monks with death will dream of a monk when they are venting stress or anxiety about death. Each symbol is unique to the dreamer. The final and most important thing about dreams is the emotions you feel in the dream. How did the dream make you feel..happy ..sad...frightened. I sense that the UFO's upset you and bring about a feeling of sufforcating fear. They also seem to excit you in a curious way. The fact that you have dreamt about it more than once suggest either a step you are unwilling to take or perhaps they represent those aspects in your life that challange you and bring about big changes. Maybe even a goal that you secretly desire but fear its final completion? Ok I didn't mean to ramble..<blushes and points accusingly at the gemini in her chart> . I don't know if any of that will help but I hope it does. Remeber there is nothing 'bad' in our dreams..only what we do with the information makes it positive or negative. Silivren
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#9599 - 02/05/00 09:10 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Silivren]
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Dear Silivren, My dreams do NOT give me suffocating fear. If you re-read my posts, you will see that. "But my dreams themselves are never scarey. (thank God)."=copy/pasted from my post above. I am not asking what dreams in general mean, I am asking specifically what the UFO dreams mean, and if anyone else has had them. I am really curious about other peoples' UFO dreams. Also, like I said in my posts, I have had these dreams ALL MY LIFE. (& I am in my 30's). I do own Betty Bethard's Dream Book and I have attended her lectures for 4 + years. Jovette P.S. Excuse me, everyone, for being so sensitive, but I have Saturn in the 12th house.
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#9600 - 02/05/00 09:29 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
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ah another 12th house saturn!!! :O) *giggle* *giggle* looove, julie ------------------ Of course I'll wait,' said Alice: `and thank you very much for coming so far--and for the song--I liked it very much.' `I hope so,' the Knight said doubtfully: `but you didn't cry so much as I thought you would.'
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Of course I'll wait,' said Alice: `and thank you very much for coming so far--and for the song--I liked it very much.'
`I hope so,' the Knight said doubtfully: `but you didn't cry so much as I thought you would.'
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#9601 - 02/05/00 11:36 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: LunarLady3]
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Dear Silivren--Fasinating!!!! Your info beats the tar out of Freuds explanation. He said we were just cleaning the cobwebs from our subconcious. Thankyou. Dear Jovette--Please don't apologize for being sensitive. When you feel pushed for answers inside yourself it can be frustrating to feel you were misunderstood. I wish I had answers for you--but my reoccurring dreams have to do with an old old victorian house and riding a horse as a indian brave. Thats pretty far away from UFO'S. I did have some interesting experiences with a Native American Dream Catcher. I believe they do work. Somebody here knows what you are lOOking fOr. It'll happen.  Peace, Searching BTW--I tOO am weepy today.Thats unusual for me.
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#9602 - 02/06/00 03:32 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
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New friend
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I realize you were asking what other people thought your dream meant. I didn't mean to imply that you were uninformed about what dreams mean. I have never read the author you refer to. I simply was sharing a method that was helpful to me in analyzing what my own dreams meant. I was merely offering help. Sorry it wasn't very good.
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#9603 - 02/06/00 07:46 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Silivren]
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Registered: 02/20/99
Posts: 6619
Loc: North Bend, WA USA
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Hi Silivren, welcome to the site and thanks for the interesting info.  Jovette, have you ever read Whitley Strieber's books about the UFO experiences he and others have had? It appears that recurring UFO "dreams" are very common, and many people seem to have them throughout life, as you describe. He believes that they have a level of reality to them that is beyond what we ordinarily call dreams. I'm not sure how much I agree with all of his conclusions, but his experiences are certainly fascinating and his thinking about them has a lot of insights. I'd recommend taking a look at his books (Communion, Transformation, Breakthrough, etc.) if you haven't already. This is a very fascinating area to me, and I've had similar dreams/experiences myself over the years. Greg
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#9604 - 02/07/00 01:39 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Gregory]
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Registered: 09/13/99
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Loc: New Brunswick
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Dear Jovette-- In response to what Greg mentioned-- My old boyfriend, a true Aquarian, used to have very vivid UFO dreams-- he wasn't a very spiritual guy, but he honestly, truly believed that aliens ( I'm not sure how to define the term 'aliens'-- maybe they are just entities from a different realm of existence than we are) truly did visit him when he was sleeping. He had the bizarre experience of waking up once with a figure peering over at him-- he closed his eyes & whatever it was went away-- This was not as a child, he was in his twenties-- & this experince prompted him to go on a big search for what it could mean-- By the end he was convinced about other forms of life often visiting us-- There is this theory that goes something like this: There are two kinds of extraterrestrials-- One kind is froma denser vibration than us,a vibration somewhat lacking in love, & they are simply fascinated with us humans because of our ability to experince emotions--I'm not sure that they can harm us, possibly they can, but they're presence on our planet is also entirely appropriate for their own evolution & growth, so we mustn't fear or judge them either-- Then, the second type are much more evolved than we are & are here to help us through these transformational times-- they are very loving entities, with great senses of humour-- I don't know much more about that, but I truly do believe that dreams are a form of communication-- ( lexigram of DREAM-- READ ME-- like a message from the Higher S-Elf or the Great Beyond) I believe we communicate with ancestors & guides in dreams, why not aliens? Why not, huh? My UFO dreams are also never scary-- they're awesome, inspiring, amazing!!! I dreamt once that it was the end of the world, you could see the Apocalypse rushing towards us on teh horozon, & space ships were hovering overhead-- I was on a football field with a bunch of other people & they were all morphing into mythical monsters, preparing to do battle with the coming cataclysms-- In the dream, I just stood very still & looked up to the sky, where suddenly a huge Egyptian looking glyph of the Sphinx appeared, & I started to levitate, to rise through the sky, as if I was being beamed up & I just kept on rising until I felt myself break through some barrier of Light, at which point the dream fragmented. . . I've had several dreams of this nature-- many other times UFOs have dotted the landscapes of my dreams-- & while I'm not sure exactlyw hat it all means-- I know that you have the answers within you, so look within & take note of what is happening around you when you have these dreams-- All the best, Love Jenny
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Men occasionally stumble on the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
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#9605 - 02/06/00 04:27 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Archangel
Registered: 02/20/99
Posts: 6619
Loc: North Bend, WA USA
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Wow Jennifer, I had an "end-of-the-world" dream a few years ago that was very reminiscent of yours! In mine, everyone knew the world was ending at a certain time, but oddly there was no panic, everyone was very calm. As the end approached, everyone was sitting on the hoods of their cars, looking out over a big football-size field toward the horizon, just waiting to see what it would be -- and when it came moving slowly toward us from the horizon, it was a huge cyclone, in the shape of a giant question mark!! Such a vivid dream, it made a deep impression on me ... but it hasn't been repeated. 
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#9606 - 02/06/00 07:28 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Gregory]
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Old hand
Registered: 09/13/99
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Dear Greg-- Oh, your dream resonates with me so deeply-- I can almost envision it-- I definitely think these 'end of the world' dreams come from the collective unconscious-- Not that they're literal-- just highly symbolic of deep transformation on a worldwide level-- I've also had several tidal wave dreams-- or dreams that the planet's air supply had been cut off & we were all going to run out of oxygen anytime-- & I've dreamt of being on a space ship that was about to crash-- Oh well- I'm so glad to see people pondering their dreams-- Nothing fascinates me more-- I know that dreaming allows us to tap into energy that is about to manifest in reality-- or at the very least has the potential of manifesting into reality--- Its almost as if we are being briefed on what is going on & then, what we do with that information & insight is up to us-- A lot of people think its ridiculous, but i take my dreaming very seriously, write each & every one down & examine them all for messages-- I participated in connie Kapaln's Dream Circle Course & the insight I gained there was invaluable-- Anyway-- Sweet dreams-- Love Jenny
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#9607 - 02/07/00 11:11 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: Triple Cardinal]
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Journeyman
Registered: 02/06/00
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Loc: Missouri, USA
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Has anyone ever thought that the "aliens" are actually ourselves? As consciousness re-enters the body when descending from the Astral levels there's that split moment when we are actually in two places at once. From our more accustomed vantage point it might well seem that there is an "alien" presence. Maybe? CatsnDogs
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#9608 - 02/07/00 03:09 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
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Gregory, I had an 'end of the world' dream about a year ago when my life was very emotionally intense and I was very confused about what I felt and what I wanted in so many aspects of my life. I had split up with my ex of four years and we tore each other to shreds. The dream consisted of everyone I knew closely and aquaintances and people on the streets that I had seen. As you mentioned, it was all so very calm, no fear, no panic and yet we all knew that the world was to end. We simply carried on doing things as we would normally, going out together in a group... AT the end of the night, in those last remaining seconds, the sky darkened and giant metal black sheets started to close in on us. It sounds terrifying but it wasn't. I remember seeing my friends all close to me.. and my ex about a metre away. In those final seconds, I couldn't decide whether I should move closer to be in his arms for our last few seconds despite all our differences or stay there alone as the world drew to a close. I awoke at that point with no decision made but I think the dream was highly symbolic of the way I was feeling inside.. so torn .... so worn.. It's interesting as in my Psychology course, I've study the analogy of dreams, their meanings and many theories as to what they represent but I still think that dreams are personal.. a personal, very important message to ourselves and only we know the real meaning. sealing seams with forgotten dreams cObWeBsOuL xoxoxoxoxox
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#9609 - 02/07/00 08:35 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: cobwebsoul]
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Registered: 09/13/99
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Loc: New Brunswick
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Dear cobwebsoul-- Ha, I had almost teh same dream when I was going through a painful breakup with my ex-- We were all waiting for the end of the world ( though there was a chance it may not happen--) and I was on a bus with a bunch of others-- we were headed for some sort of retreat, or commune where we could wait fo rthe outcome-- I was lying down on the floor in teh bus-- we were all camped out in there ( it was a big bus) and I really, suddenly got the urge to hold somebody-- I turned to my right & saw a girl ( she looked like me) lyings sound asleep on her side-- I thought "Well, no, I can't hold her", and then to my left was my ex, and I though the same thing you did-- Should I hold him despite everything or just go through this alone-- amnd I ended up rolling over to hold him, but every time we embraced I started slipping out of my own body, turning into pure Spirit-- Finally-- I gave up on the idea of holding him, but resolved to make sure he had a safe place to go no matter what happened-- I guess its not exactly the same, but the idea sure was similar-- BTW, I totally agree with you about dream being personal -- When I took psychology at University, I wanted to burn the book, because I hated how they rationalized away some of the most magickal expereinces known to humans-- Love Jennie
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#9611 - 02/08/00 05:30 PM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
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Kellie... wow, that it similar.. What did you make of it? I think that some dreams I have a re just representative of general anxiety in my life but somehow that went far deeper. It was always giving me a message. I think that I was taking things too harshly and I was full of bitterness and resentment towards him but it reminded me that ultimately, we were just two souls... two people and it was more karmically sound for me to be at peace with myself and with him. The way I was feeling and acting was making me worse and it really made me think.. I don't think dreams can be categorised, I don't care what Freud says! I don't think that dreams are designed as direct messages or that what you dream of is symbolic of something else. I think they are messages, almost like thought-inspiring stories...a way of catharsis by finding your true answers... I don't know *laughs* as I said, it's an individual, personal thing.. probably why I can't explain it! Sweet Dreams.. CoBwebSouL xoxoxoxoxox
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#9612 - 02/14/00 08:37 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: cobwebsoul]
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sorry I meant Jennie.... *giggles*
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#9613 - 02/14/00 09:25 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: cobwebsoul]
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Hello everyone. I know that this is a relatively old thread but, as it was brought back up to the top, I felt the need to throw my two cents in. I have to agree with what cobwebsoul said concerning the cathartic nature of certain dreams. At times I have really grown from a dream concerning an aspect of my life which was giving me trouble. However, I do tend to believe that there is an amount of symbolism in dreams. I'm not saying that it is necessarily in a Freudian sense, where dreams can be "categorized", but there is definitely aspects which must be analyzed to determine their true implications. I don't know how many times I have awoken from a dream and thought, "that was odd", without gaining any insight as to what the dream was saying. Upon deeper thought, however, I would notice the symbolism involved and really gain something from what was originally thought of as "just another crazy dream". I firmly believe that sometimes dreams are our Higher S-elf imparting wisdom onto us. Things which will help us grow which we may not have seen by ourS-elves. The use of symbolism is to give us a sense of the continuity of things and to get us to open our eyes to lessons which are all around us everyday. Just a thought...  Peace, ~artifax~
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#9614 - 02/15/00 08:07 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: artifax]
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artifax.. I do agree with that... symbolism plays a part... but not where a specific thing can be categorised .. like a boy dreaming of flowers having 'sexual desires for his mother' *grins* I think you interpret your own symbols...you unravel the message and it's so personal that no-one (not even Freud) can analyse it for you... *sits on the couch* I often dream of death... it's sad and often vivdly horrific and frightening.. something that still hasn't been unravelled... not completely... It's probably all those nasty books and films *hears her mother's voice* *grins*
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#9615 - 02/15/00 09:40 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: cobwebsoul]
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Cobwebsoul, I most definitely agree that most dreams are so personal that no one can categorize them...that is what I was trying to say...and that is what makes it so important to analyze them ourselves, since we are really the only ones who can make sense out of them. Death dreams...I really can't touch that one...not without having more info to go on. If it is a recurring thing, do you really think that it is only due to "nasty books and movies"? There might be deeper roots than that... Peace, ~artifax~
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#9616 - 02/18/00 09:42 AM
Re: Dreams of UFO's
[Re: artifax]
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artifax... no *grins* I don't think it's due to that at all... it's my mother's voice in my head telling me that I wouldn't have nightmares if I watched nice films on television and not the psychologically intense ones! I think it's definitely deeper than that but I'm not sure where to start looking...
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